Sometime the lights all shining on me

I'll also enjoy the ability to drive in any one direction and not end up in the same spot after a couple of hours.

I would enjoy winter if we'd just get some snow.

dittybopper: I'll also enjoy the ability to drive in any one direction and not end up in the same spot after a couple of hours.

but what about the ability to never get lost for more than 2 hours?

Seriously... What winter?
We have snow for like ONE day so far this winter in New York City. I thought, "Cool, Ski time." Nope, one day snow and it was incredibly warm in the evening of the same day.

What has also helped Hawaii is that they did not have much state debt up to this point (clocks in at about $8,500 per citizen). This is pretty close to the national average for states. However, they do have a pretty big unfunded pension obligation of about $7 Billion that they need to correct and that could eventually bite them in the arse.

Also, tourism can be a very fickle buisness.

James!: What winter?

This. I'm in northern MN and it's 45 degrees outside right now. And we haven't had enough snow to even cover the grass yet.

Masso: Seriously... What winter?

Current temp in Hawaii - 76F
Current temp in New York - 47F

While it's unseasonably warm in New York, it's still shiat compared to the paradise that is Hawaii.

9beers: Masso: Seriously... What winter?

Current temp in Hawaii - 76F
Current temp in New York - 47F

While it's unseasonably warm in New York, it's still shiat compared to the paradise that is Hawaii.

Hey, I have no problem with the temperature, but I'm very damn glad I didn't buy season pass for skiing this winter. What a freak of Winter.

9beers: Current temp in New York - 47F

Pfft, that's t-shirt weather.

I can assure you it's not cold here in San Francsico either. I mean, no colder than usual. It certainly doesn't feel like winter.

Amazingly, the real estate bust in 2007/2007 didn't hit us too bad either. Unemployment has always been lower than the national average because our cost of living is off the charts. If you live on Oahu, you don't work and you don't have an accommodating family or friend to house you, you will probably have to live in a shelter or on the streets. And now, they're cracking down on the street people.

Some idiots take a plane here with the romantic notion that they'll live on the beach. Once they get the crap kicked out of them, they wise up and move back to the mainland. It's kind of hilarious, really.

took my kids to the beach January 2, the water was warm. Thats a plus of living in Hawaii. There are many many downsides though most having to do with homes, groceries and gas costing an arm and a leg.

/and its the governments own damn fault the public worker pensions are underfunded. A few decades back some idiot wrote legislation that basically said every year the stock market does good the government does not have to pay into the retirement system. They also made many many quesitonable investments over the years.

I'll be going there in Feb. Hopefully by the time I come back to CT, the winter will have arrived.

/Like having 4 different seasons

make me some tea: 9beers: Masso: Seriously... What winter?

Current temp in Hawaii - 76F
Current temp in New York - 47F

While it's unseasonably warm in New York, it's still shiat compared to the paradise that is Hawaii.

I'm sure Hawaii is awesome and everyone who's been there tells me it is, but 47F is not unpleasant with a coat on.

You want the weather for Hawaii? I used to live there, so I know what their weather forecast is most of the time:

"High in the mid 80's, low in the mid 70's, some windward and mauka showers".

And doesn't Hawaii have universal healthcare for its residence? Fark it, I have to move.

mekki: And doesn't Hawaii have universal healthcare for its residence? Fark it, I have to move.

Not exactly. If you work at least 20 hours/week for an employer, they need to provide you coverage, though you may have to pay a portion of it. Many employers get around this law by hiring part-timers who work no more than 19.5 hours/week.

Well no shiat Hawaii has it better. You can swim across the Rio Grande, but not half the Pacific

dittybopper: make me some tea: 9beers: Masso: Seriously... What winter?

Current temp in Hawaii - 76F
Current temp in New York - 47F

While it's unseasonably warm in New York, it's still shiat compared to the paradise that is Hawaii.

I'm sure Hawaii is awesome and everyone who's been there tells me it is, but 47F is not unpleasant with a coat on.

You want the weather for Hawaii? I used to live there, so I know what their weather forecast is most of the time:

"High in the mid 80's, low in the mid 70's, some windward and mauka showers".

Link (obligatory)

Kanemano: dittybopper: make me some tea: 9beers: Masso: Seriously... What winter?

Current temp in Hawaii - 76F
Current temp in New York - 47F

While it's unseasonably warm in New York, it's still shiat compared to the paradise that is Hawaii.

I'm sure Hawaii is awesome and everyone who's been there tells me it is, but 47F is not unpleasant with a coat on.

You want the weather for Hawaii? I used to live there, so I know what their weather forecast is most of the time:

"High in the mid 80's, low in the mid 70's, some windward and mauka showers".

Link (obligatory)

OK, I'm going to have to check that when I get home.

/Was stationed in Hawaii from 1986 to 1989.

AlgaeRancher: took my kids to the beach January 2, the water was warm. Thats a plus of living in Hawaii. There are many many downsides though most having to do with homes, groceries and gas costing an arm and a leg.

/and its the governments own damn fault the public worker pensions are underfunded. A few decades back some idiot wrote legislation that basically said every year the stock market does good the government does not have to pay into the retirement system. They also made many many quesitonable investments over the years.

I'm sure the colorful locals asking the non-natives if they prefer steak adds a lot to the local charm.

Also, enjoy winter

San Francisco here. I'd be wearing a t-shirt out today, but I'd get sunburned. I am!

/except for the cloud of smug

And we have the ProBowl too!

Kanemano: dittybopper: make me some tea: 9beers: Masso: Seriously... What winter?

Current temp in Hawaii - 76F
Current temp in New York - 47F

While it's unseasonably warm in New York, it's still shiat compared to the paradise that is Hawaii.

I'm sure Hawaii is awesome and everyone who's been there tells me it is, but 47F is not unpleasant with a coat on.

You want the weather for Hawaii? I used to live there, so I know what their weather forecast is most of the time:

"High in the mid 80's, low in the mid 70's, some windward and mauka showers".

Link (obligatory)

I love that clip

For those living on any of the Hawaiian islands: Are all places in Hawaii as expensive as Honolulu?

Or is Honolulu just out there?

I would love to live in Hawaii as would many but my Honolulu experience showed me:

a) Honolulu is farking expensive
b) Honolulu has a farking huge gap between rich and poor

MBA Whore: For those living on any of the Hawaiian islands: Are all places in Hawaii as expensive as Honolulu?

Or is Honolulu just out there?

I would love to live in Hawaii as would many but my Honolulu experience showed me:

a) Honolulu is farking expensive
b) Honolulu has a farking huge gap between rich and poor

To me growing up New York Honolulu isn't that expensive
I also have friends that run the gamut from sales clerks to millionaire business owners
the outer island are even more expensive... unless you live the island way,
catch fish and eat rice
don't worry about getting a new car every year
eat plate lunch,
don't even try for a glitzy address

thats because obama gave hawaii a surplus to ensure that they hide the original birth certificate

MBA Whore: For those living on any of the Hawaiian islands: Are all places in Hawaii as expensive as Honolulu?


No. Everything on Maui is far more expensive. But as a longtime resident, you quickly learn when and where to buy certain things so that you get the best deals.

/year-round summer more than makes up for the prices

So I'm strongly considering moving to Hawaii for school next year. I get the GI bill, so tuition isn't a concern. Plus they give me a bit of a living allowance during school months. I'm single, with no kids so I don't have much baggage. Plus, I've lived on Kodiak island in Alaska for a couple years, so I know a little about living on an island.

Anyone from Hawaii tell me a little about UH and HPU? Any things I should plan for or be aware of (I'm aware of the cost of living)?

Frank N Stein: So I'm strongly considering moving to Hawaii for school next year. I get the GI bill, so tuition isn't a concern. Plus they give me a bit of a living allowance during school months. I'm single, with no kids so I don't have much baggage. Plus, I've lived on Kodiak island in Alaska for a couple years, so I know a little about living on an island.

Anyone from Hawaii tell me a little about UH and HPU? Any things I should plan for or be aware of (I'm aware of the cost of living)?

HPU has a reciprocal agreement with the Swedish government, so you guessed it lots of blond Swedish tail.

UH.has a nice campus

Frank N Stein: So I'm strongly considering moving to Hawaii for school next year. I get the GI bill, so tuition isn't a concern. Plus they give me a bit of a living allowance during school months. I'm single, with no kids so I don't have much baggage. Plus, I've lived on Kodiak island in Alaska for a couple years, so I know a little about living on an island.

Anyone from Hawaii tell me a little about UH and HPU? Any things I should plan for or be aware of (I'm aware of the cost of living)?

I'm assuming UH Manoa? If so, it's a nice state school. The dorms are a little cramped, but they're close to the classrooms so you'll have an easy walk. Manoa is a nice neighborhood, and there are a lot of stores nearby to get stuff. Most students get around by bike or moped. It rains most days in Manoa, but it's usually a light afternoon rain so it's not usually disruptive. Unlike a lot of mainland schools, UH Manoa is more of a commuter campus, so there aren't as many evening/weekend campus activities as you would find in most mainland schools. I got my B.A. at UHM back in '89 and I live about 1/2 mile from campus.

I got my MBA at HPU. HPU is split in two. Most business and general studies classes are taught in downtown. When I went there, only a small percentage of students were from Hawaii - most were foreign, usually from China or Japan. Although the school isn't rated highly in academics, I had some very good professors. Many of them had years of work experience before they came there to teach, so I felt that practical knowledge was very valuable.

The other campus is on the windward side of the island. I didn't take any classes there, but I've visited there and it looks nice. I think it's mostly nursing and other science majors at that campus.

Things to be aware of: if you're white, don't spend a lot of time in Waianae, Nanakuli or the poorer parts of Kalihi and Palolo, especially at night.

Kanemano: Sometime the lights all shining on me

I agree!

So...guys...FarkParty sometime soon?

I do have to say, since our main engines are tourism (white people spending money on luxury!) and agriculture (really, what can't you get cheaper from Venezuela or Brazil these days?), I thought by now we'd be up shiat creek. I thought we'd look like Detroit-West. I wanted to get the holy hell out of here before it really all came crashing down.

...I can't, for the life of me, figure out why it didn't.

I mean, I sure as hell am not going to say I'm making money over here, but still.

mekki: And doesn't Hawaii have universal healthcare for its residence? Fark it, I have to move.

No, but what is universal is that employers must provide insurance to full time workers. So you know, once you manage to land a full time job, you're in it for at least the basics.

Ishidan: Kanemano: Sometime the lights all shining on me

I agree!

So...guys...FarkParty sometime soon?

I'm in. I want to party with somebody with a 3 digit Fark account.

Oahu farkers let's hear your suggestions.

HeadLever: What has also helped Hawaii is that they did not have much state debt up to this point (clocks in at about $8,500 per citizen). This is pretty close to the national average for states. However, they do have a pretty big unfunded pension obligation of about $7 Billion that they need to correct and that could eventually bite them in the arse.

Also, tourism can be a very fickle buisness.

Growing some of the world's finest weed (so I'm told), otoh, is fairly recession-proof.

9beers: Current temp in Hawaii - 76F
Current temp in New York - 47F

Yeah, 47F isn't bad. But Hawaii also has better pizza (new window).

relaxitsjustme: Kanemano: dittybopper: make me some tea: 9beers: Masso: Seriously... What winter?

Current temp in Hawaii - 76F
Current temp in New York - 47F

While it's unseasonably warm in New York, it's still shiat compared to the paradise that is Hawaii.

I'm sure Hawaii is awesome and everyone who's been there tells me it is, but 47F is not unpleasant with a coat on.

You want the weather for Hawaii? I used to live there, so I know what their weather forecast is most of the time:

"High in the mid 80's, low in the mid 70's, some windward and mauka showers".

Link (obligatory)

I love that clip

I'm just wondering how Kanemano managed to survive three full days of shade.

Atomic Spunk: Things to be aware of: if you're white, don't spend a lot of time in Waianae, Nanakuli or the poorer parts of Kalihi and Palolo, especially at night.

Seconded, especially the Waianae part.

Oddly enough, though, the only incident I had wasn't in those places, it was between Ala Wai Blvd and Kuhio Ave in Waikiki.