If I were Huntsman, I'd feign outrage at the comparison. Just for the lulz potential.

Better fresh Santorum than stale, old Santorum I guess.

Eeeww... try not to get the Huntsman on your shoes.

Huntsman Santorum.

Well, everyone needs a hobby.

/stare at it for a while.

Huntsman actually has a damn good chance at beating Obama. His response to Romney attack about working for Obama was the exact message moderate republicans needed to hear. "country first"

Darth_Lukecash: Huntsman actually has a damn good chance at beating Obama. His response to Romney attack about working for Obama was the exact message moderate republicans needed to hear. "country first"


No way in hell Huntsman makes it through the primary.

New headline, worse byline:
Former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman is hoping he experiences the Santorum effect here in New Hampshire.

Are you picturing a girl in a tub too?

Darth_Lukecash: Huntsman actually has a damn good chance at beating Obama. His response to Romney attack about working for Obama was the exact message moderate republicans needed to hear. "country first"

Yes, all three of you.

Darth_Lukecash: "country first"

Wait, wait... That sounds familiar. Where have I heard that before... Oh, that's right:



How'd that slogan work out, in the end?

Darth_Lukecash: Huntsman actually has a damn good chance at beating Obama. His response to Romney attack about working for Obama was the exact message moderate republicans needed to hear. "country first"

Meh. It's been done.

Crap.

Darth_Lukecash: Huntsman actually has a damn good chance at beating Obama. His response to Romney attack about working for Obama was the exact message moderate republicans needed to hear. "country first"

I like to think and do hope that's true. Because here's an actual response from Facebook where I complained about Romney attacking Huntsman for serving as ambassador. I stated that when your president asks you to represent your country, you do so to the best of your ability as an American. Not, "Screw you, Usurper-in-Chief! I'm not talking to China because you're a Socialist secret Kenyan Muslim!":

"I am sorry, but NOTHING the current person in office has done has represented the country as I want it represented. I agree with Romney's response. We DO best serve our country by defeating obamas agenda, in ALL of its points. And no matter who it is on that list, we will be hugely better off with them over the current person sitting in the seat in the oval office..

The obama apology tour comes to an end in November, so enjoy the show while its still on the air... And right now, I can tell you, I would vote for a pile of dog poo over Obama. I don t know about "secret muslim..etc" but I agree with Socialist usurper-in-chief."

VictoryCabal: Crap Santorum.

FTFY

brigid_fitch: I stated that when your president asks you to represent your country, you do so to the best of your ability as an American. Not, "Screw you, Usurper-in-Chief! I'm not talking to China because you're a Socialist secret Kenyan Muslim!":

I'm sort of torn on this point. On the one hand, I do agree with the sentiment of "my country calls for my service, and I must answer." On the other hand, I also recognize that sometimes it might be more ethically correct to refuse service to a cause you don't believe in than to aid the government due to a sense of duty (refusing to accept an appointment in a pro-segregation administration, for instance). Personally, I think that in a position such as ambassador, where you have a lot of autonomy and the directives from the Oval Office aren't going to be that radically different from one President to the next that duty is the more important value, but I understand both sides, and it's not clear when opposing an administration you disagree with is more important than serving the country you are loyal to.

No. GIS for Huntsman turns up stuff like this:



There ain't no way in hell I'm doing a GIS for Santorum.

nmrsnr: Darth_Lukecash: "country first"

Wait, wait... That sounds familiar. Where have I heard that before... Oh, that's right:



How'd that slogan work out, in the end?

Sadly, McCain sold out everything he believed in and voted for to get the nomination.

And he had Palin as his running mate, which really screwed things up for him.

Including his Rugged Independence. Huntsman actually had walk the walk.

jbc: No. GIS for Huntsman turns up stuff like this:

[www.cutehomepets.com image 640x461]

There ain't no way in hell I'm doing a GIS for Santorum.

The GIS is pretty safe. Although I found this gem.

Darth_Lukecash: Huntsman actually has a damn good chance at beating Obama. His response to Romney attack about working for Obama was the exact message moderate republicans needed to hear. "country first"

Moderate Republicans no longer call themselves Republicans.

nmrsnr: brigid_fitch: I stated that when your president asks you to represent your country, you do so to the best of your ability as an American. Not, "Screw you, Usurper-in-Chief! I'm not talking to China because you're a Socialist secret Kenyan Muslim!":

I'm sort of torn on this point. On the one hand, I do agree with the sentiment of "my country calls for my service, and I must answer." On the other hand, I also recognize that sometimes it might be more ethically correct to refuse service to a cause you don't believe in than to aid the government due to a sense of duty (refusing to accept an appointment in a pro-segregation administration, for instance). Personally, I think that in a position such as ambassador, where you have a lot of autonomy and the directives from the Oval Office aren't going to be that radically different from one President to the next that duty is the more important value, but I understand both sides, and it's not clear when opposing an administration you disagree with is more important than serving the country you are loyal to.

A well-reasoned response and I respect that. And, despite my initial post, I know there are more than 2 options. But Romney in that case, and the GOP in general, have been so anti-Obama that no matter what he does, they oppose it. In any other world, someone acting as US Ambassador to China would be treated with respect. But since Huntsman did so under Obama, Romney tried to use it as an opportunity to slam him. That bothers the hell out of me. And I would be no less bothered if a Dem tried to do that to, say, Mineta for serving in Bush's cabinet.

Whether it's being asked to be ambassador to our largest trading partner or help him get a cat out of a tree, the Republicans (and the Tea Party nutjob on my FB post) will say no.simply BECAUSE it's Obama doing the asking.

brigid_fitch: nmrsnr: brigid_fitch: I stated that when your president asks you to represent your country, you do so to the best of your ability as an American. Not, "Screw you, Usurper-in-Chief! I'm not talking to China because you're a Socialist secret Kenyan Muslim!":

I'm sort of torn on this point. On the one hand, I do agree with the sentiment of "my country calls for my service, and I must answer." On the other hand, I also recognize that sometimes it might be more ethically correct to refuse service to a cause you don't believe in than to aid the government due to a sense of duty (refusing to accept an appointment in a pro-segregation administration, for instance). Personally, I think that in a position such as ambassador, where you have a lot of autonomy and the directives from the Oval Office aren't going to be that radically different from one President to the next that duty is the more important value, but I understand both sides, and it's not clear when opposing an administration you disagree with is more important than serving the country you are loyal to.

A well-reasoned response and I respect that. And, despite my initial post, I know there are more than 2 options. But Romney in that case, and the GOP in general, have been so anti-Obama that no matter what he does, they oppose it. In any other world, someone acting as US Ambassador to China would be treated with respect. But since Huntsman did so under Obama, Romney tried to use it as an opportunity to slam him. That bothers the hell out of me. And I would be no less bothered if a Dem tried to do that to, say, Mineta for serving in Bush's cabinet.

Whether it's being asked to be ambassador to our largest trading partner or help him get a cat out of a tree, the Republicans (and the Tea Party nutjob on my FB post) will say no.simply BECAUSE it's Obama doing the asking.

the really interesting thing is, if Romney did win, I could see Obama being the type of person who would (like Huntsman) accept an appointment to a key position. God knows, Obama is so well respected in the world, it would be a shame if he wasn't used in that capacity somehow.

brigid_fitch: In this specific case, I agree, because, like you say, I think it's much more a "he didn't play for our side" kneejerk reaction than a "he shouldn't have lent his support to this administration because of X, Y, and Z" reaction.

mrshowrules: if Romney did win, I could see Obama being the type of person who would (like Huntsman) accept an appointment to a key position.

The only job Romney (or any Republican) would offer Obama in their administration would be ambassador to Kenya.

mrshowrules: the really interesting thing is, if Romney did win, I could see Obama being the type of person who would (like Huntsman) accept an appointment to a key position. God knows, Obama is so well respected in the world, it would be a shame if he wasn't used in that capacity somehow.

Here's a more likely scenario: Obama wins in a landslide and offers the Republican loser a co-Presidency and three opportunities to pants Obama at any random point in the future.

The capitulating wuss

Carth: You need to be more selective with who you facebook. That is mind melting derp.

It was on a friend's post, so I'm not friends w/him. But it is interesting to see actual people spewing this derp outside of Free Republic. Yes, I know we can Google a mess of them from any Palin bus tour stop, but it's not the same as watching them in their natural habitat.

mrshowrules: the really interesting thing is, if Romney did win, I could see Obama being the type of person who would (like Huntsman) accept an appointment to a key position.

I could see a Supreme court justice appointment. Only problem is Roberts is relatively young.

That should happen more often than... once ever.

whidbey: OK...somebody explain to me why a fairly respected politico like Huntsman is consistently ignored or misrepresented, and why a total batsh*t nutcase like Santorum is considered Top Dog? Because this sh*t is ridiculous.

Pocket Ninja called it in another thread. Huntsman is floundering because instead of stepping up to the plate and running as a reasonable, moderate Republican, he's trying to blend in so as not to anger the Tea Party nutjobs. If he actually had the balls to denounce his opponents for the lunatics they are and stand up for himself, he'd be buoyed up by a LOT of the independents. But no--for some reason he's just meekly toeing the party line, no matter where it drags him.

I_Am_Weasel: Huntsman Santorum.

Well, everyone needs a hobby.

/stare at it for a while.

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there their theyre: mrshowrules: jbc: No. GIS for Huntsman turns up stuff like this:

[www.cutehomepets.com image 640x461]

There ain't no way in hell I'm doing a GIS for Santorum.

The GIS is pretty safe. Although I found this gem.

[media.reason.com image 350x393]

If I didn't know any better, I'd say that sign looks like it was written in poo

Pinner: brigid_fitch: whidbey: OK...somebody explain to me why a fairly respected politico like Huntsman is consistently ignored or misrepresented, and why a total batsh*t nutcase like Santorum is considered Top Dog? Because this sh*t is ridiculous.

Pocket Ninja called it in another thread. Huntsman is floundering because instead of stepping up to the plate and running as a reasonable, moderate Republican, he's trying to blend in so as not to anger the Tea Party nutjobs. If he actually had the balls to denounce his opponents for the lunatics they are and stand up for himself, he'd be buoyed up by a LOT of the independents. But no--for some reason he's just meekly toeing the party line, no matter where it drags him.

Naw. He's been flying under the radar a bit. What would be the point months ago, trying to denounce the crazies? He's watched them all fall away. He's got a great opportunity now.
Slow and steady...

You can't be serious. He's put all his eggs into the NH basket and, at best, will squeak into second place a hair above Paul but still 18-20% behind Romney. And where's he going to bring our his moderate Republican guns? SC? FL?? Forget it. After tonight, he's done. Had he shown a little more courage, he probably could have surprised even himself. But, because he's shown himself to be so easily intimidated this whole year, he can probably even forget about 2016.

Whole Huntsman thread and no daughter pics? For shame.

whidbey: OK...somebody explain to me why a fairly respected politico like Huntsman is consistently ignored or misrepresented, and why a total batsh*t nutcase like Santorum is considered Top Dog? Because this sh*t is ridiculous.

Difficulty: yes, I've been paying attention.

Narrative. Neither is electable, but Santorum is getting flavor of the month numbets (I know, yikes). Huntsman is a footnote, and most likely building name recognition for 2016.

Assuming Skynet hasn't taken over by then, of course. ;)