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(BBC) PSA Are you constantly worried that your TV is obsolete? Samsung has a new model that will keep you paying for upgrades   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 31
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jaylectricity [TotalFark]
2012-01-10 09:50:03 AM
Why didn't we ever think of this before?
 
kingoomieiii [TotalFark]
2012-01-10 10:11:40 AM
"Future Proof" just means "scam".

bioshockfiles.home.bresnan.net

If you can't read that, "NEVER OBSOLETE" "466MHz"
 
make me some tea [TotalFark]
2012-01-10 10:14:35 AM
Should've tagged it with "unlikely" instead.
 
RobotSpider [TotalFark]
2012-01-10 10:53:59 AM
My TV should be capable of producing a quality picture. That's all. Leave the audio, broadcast-tuner, and apps to other equipment. THEN it'll be reasonably upgrade-proof. I will only have to upgrade when the signal-transport changes significantly. Over the last 25 years, it's gone from coax, to composite, to component, to HDMI. I can handle 3 or 4 upgrades in 25 years. Leave the picture to the tv. Everything else is already being done better on computers and set-top boxes.

Having apps in your tv is like having a car that can only drive to places that are pre-programmed.
 
jayhawk88
2012-01-10 10:57:17 AM
So did Samsung specify what exactly you're supposed to upgrade in it? I assume we're talking about an SD slot of some kind to add some storage space or something like that?
 
snoopaloopa
2012-01-10 10:57:43 AM
But how do the yellows look
 
bsharitt
2012-01-10 10:57:52 AM
It's inevitable that the "smart" part of "smart TVs" will become obsolete before the screen. It's the same problem with all in one computers and the reason I did not replace my iMac with another and instead went back to the separate monitor and tower(been through 2.5 of these on the same monitor). I've kept the same idea with TVs. I bought a TV without worrying about any integrated stuff and just got a nice big screen and still use a separate box(was a Roku, now a WD Live) for the extras. Even if I do get a new TV down the line and have to get the smart features because they're standard, I don't see that part ever being a reason to upgrade the whole TV and will just get a new box to go with it.
 
moothemagiccow
2012-01-10 11:01:00 AM
RobotSpider: My TV should be capable of producing a quality picture. That's all. Leave the audio, broadcast-tuner, and apps to other equipment. THEN it'll be reasonably upgrade-proof. I will only have to upgrade when the signal-transport changes significantly. Over the last 25 years, it's gone from coax, to composite, to component, to HDMI. I can handle 3 or 4 upgrades in 25 years. Leave the picture to the tv. Everything else is already being done better on computers and set-top boxes.

Having apps in your tv is like having a car that can only drive to places that are pre-programmed.

Horseshiat. Set top boxes have spotty support of the many services and more stupid tiny remotes than you need. Only roku has amazon prime, for example. If i can go on netflix without turning some other piece of crap on and navigating through its menus and logging into its own special service, that sounds pretty farking good.
 
DoBeDoBeDo
2012-01-10 11:08:43 AM
kingoomieiii: "Future Proof" just means "scam".

[bioshockfiles.home.bresnan.net image 640x480]

If you can't read that, "NEVER OBSOLETE" "466MHz"

Really depends on how you read that, if it's an ATX case you could put new components/PS in there. Might have to do some cutting depending on what the back of the case looks like port wise, but other than that you should be good.
 
s1ugg0
2012-01-10 11:08:55 AM
bsharitt: It's inevitable that the "smart" part of "smart TVs" will become obsolete before the screen. It's the same problem with all in one computers and the reason I did not replace my iMac with another and instead went back to the separate monitor and tower(been through 2.5 of these on the same monitor). I've kept the same idea with TVs. I bought a TV without worrying about any integrated stuff and just got a nice big screen and still use a separate box(was a Roku, now a WD Live) for the extras. Even if I do get a new TV down the line and have to get the smart features because they're standard, I don't see that part ever being a reason to upgrade the whole TV and will just get a new box to go with it.

This. Just so long as I have a sufficient number of inputs then I'll make the rest work on my own.
 
NkThrasher
2012-01-10 11:10:55 AM
Yes, because the reason people buy new TVs is their ability to process information better than prior ones. Televisions are display peripherals in any long term game, the only thing that should have the capability of being upgrade and modularized is input standards. Hopefully all inputs will be ethernet sometime soon™ anyway when the industry stops screwing around and treats data as data instead of dicking around with modulating and demodulating it to travel four feet.
 
mattymo
2012-01-10 11:13:06 AM
as for these fancy remotes coming out with the TVs... this Samsung and the LG that was announced the other day.... who actually uses the remote that comes with the TV? Unless it integrates with my cable DVR or anyone's dTV or Dish remote... what good is it? My TV remote sits in a drawer
 
ABQGOD
2012-01-10 11:20:05 AM
None of this will matter in 2040.
 
kobrakai
2012-01-10 11:21:27 AM
All this is just so they* can tell what you're watching and shut you down if they* don't like it.

*RIAA/MPAA/MAFIAA
 
meat0918 [TotalFark]
2012-01-10 11:32:47 AM
My TV receives the signals generated by the broadcast center, and has inputs for all my peripheral devices. Who cares that it isn't a flat screen?

Yes, it's a late model 29" tube TV I got on clearance when my old 19" went kaput a few years ago.

I can watch what I want, when I want for the most part.

The only way it will be obsolete is if they completely change the protocols and hardware for new devices, and I don't see that happening any time soon (unless there is a drive to replace them all with gigabit ethernet for some reason).
 
moel
2012-01-10 11:33:49 AM
correct me if i'm wrong, but surely the future for tv's is 4k, which is the display resolution...and as far as i'm aware, you can't swap the panel out on that or indeed any tv.
 
DubyaHater
2012-01-10 11:42:08 AM
Lets see, does my TV produce a picture when I turn it on? Yes? Therefore it is not obsolete. I only own a VCR, so I don't worry about peripherals. I only watch French-subtitled films so I don't need HD. Everything is a waste of money and people only buy expensive equipment to look like they're in a higher social class.
 
tsakali
2012-01-10 11:51:25 AM
meat0918: My TV receives the signals generated by the broadcast center, and has inputs for all my peripheral devices. Who cares that it isn't a flat screen?

Yes, it's a late model 29" tube TV I got on clearance when my old 19" went kaput a few years ago.

I can watch what I want, when I want for the most part.

The only way it will be obsolete is if they completely change the protocols and hardware for new devices, and I don't see that happening any time soon (unless there is a drive to replace them all with gigabit ethernet for some reason).

and I bet you still use a flip phone, for equally misguided reasons
 
flaminio
2012-01-10 11:53:59 AM
moel: correct me if i'm wrong, but surely the future for tv's is 4k, which is the display resolution...and as far as i'm aware, you can't swap the panel out on that or indeed any tv.

4K resolution plus 21:9 aspect ratio -- that's the ticket. Until then, I'm still rocking my Sony tube I bought back in the 1990s.
 
LarryDan43
2012-01-10 11:59:42 AM
Ya'll are just jealous cuz I rooted my 72" samsung tv and im currently running banana split sundae 6.2. Id tell you how to do it, but you'd just brick it and blame me.
 
meat0918 [TotalFark]
2012-01-10 12:10:09 PM
tsakali: meat0918: My TV receives the signals generated by the broadcast center, and has inputs for all my peripheral devices. Who cares that it isn't a flat screen?

Yes, it's a late model 29" tube TV I got on clearance when my old 19" went kaput a few years ago.

I can watch what I want, when I want for the most part.

The only way it will be obsolete is if they completely change the protocols and hardware for new devices, and I don't see that happening any time soon (unless there is a drive to replace them all with gigabit ethernet for some reason).

and I bet you still use a flip phone, for equally misguided reasons

No, I have a smart phone, and an HD computer monitor for my PC gaming, where it counts and I'm close enough to the screen that the HD makes that small difference in detail.

I've watched HD stuff at friend's places, and it's still just moving pictures on the screen. I'm not really that keen on replacing the DVD library with Blu-Ray discs, and I don't have cable TV because Netflix+Internet means I can watch anything I care to watch with relative ease for a lot cheaper, and that is even without pirating stuff.

Did I mention I'm relatively cheap? The TV is 6 years old. I wanted a bigger TV than the 19" that blew up on me, and at the time the 19" flat screens were still more expensive than the 29" SDTV tube on super sale. Oh, and my kids. I wanted a TV that could take a beating if necessary, and given their proclivity of tossing blocks and other things around at that age, flat screen was out.
 
manimal2878
2012-01-10 12:52:21 PM
meat0918: tsakali: meat0918: My TV receives the signals generated by the broadcast center, and has inputs for all my peripheral devices. Who cares that it isn't a flat screen?

Yes, it's a late model 29" tube TV I got on clearance when my old 19" went kaput a few years ago.

I can watch what I want, when I want for the most part.

The only way it will be obsolete is if they completely change the protocols and hardware for new devices, and I don't see that happening any time soon (unless there is a drive to replace them all with gigabit ethernet for some reason).

and I bet you still use a flip phone, for equally misguided reasons

No, I have a smart phone, and an HD computer monitor for my PC gaming, where it counts and I'm close enough to the screen that the HD makes that small difference in detail.

I've watched HD stuff at friend's places, and it's still just moving pictures on the screen. I'm not really that keen on replacing the DVD library with Blu-Ray discs, and I don't have cable TV because Netflix+Internet means I can watch anything I care to watch with relative ease for a lot cheaper, and that is even without pirating stuff.

Did I mention I'm relatively cheap? The TV is 6 years old. I wanted a bigger TV than the 19" that blew up on me, and at the time the 19" flat screens were still more expensive than the 29" SDTV tube on super sale. Oh, and my kids. I wanted a TV that could take a beating if necessary, and given their proclivity of tossing blocks and other things around at that age, flat screen was out.

I don't think you could buy a tube TV even if you wanted to now.
 
BHShaman
2012-01-10 12:56:32 PM
*sigh*

I just want a nice picture with a Gorilla Glass (or equivilent) flat screen.
Until I can get that for The rounded screen is almost 3D for women's tennis.
 
IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T
2012-01-10 01:24:39 PM
snoopaloopa: But how do the yellows look

No too Sharp are ya?
 
imgod2u [TotalFark]
2012-01-10 02:13:50 PM
RobotSpider: My TV should be capable of producing a quality picture. That's all. Leave the audio, broadcast-tuner, and apps to other equipment. THEN it'll be reasonably upgrade-proof. I will only have to upgrade when the signal-transport changes significantly. Over the last 25 years, it's gone from coax, to composite, to component, to HDMI. I can handle 3 or 4 upgrades in 25 years. Leave the picture to the tv. Everything else is already being done better on computers and set-top boxes.

Having apps in your tv is like having a car that can only drive to places that are pre-programmed.

One can say the same thing about computer monitors and yet, plenty of people buy iMacs
 
meat0918 [TotalFark]
2012-01-10 02:20:59 PM
manimal2878: meat0918: tsakali: meat0918: My TV receives the signals generated by the broadcast center, and has inputs for all my peripheral devices. Who cares that it isn't a flat screen?

Yes, it's a late model 29" tube TV I got on clearance when my old 19" went kaput a few years ago.

I can watch what I want, when I want for the most part.

The only way it will be obsolete is if they completely change the protocols and hardware for new devices, and I don't see that happening any time soon (unless there is a drive to replace them all with gigabit ethernet for some reason).

and I bet you still use a flip phone, for equally misguided reasons

No, I have a smart phone, and an HD computer monitor for my PC gaming, where it counts and I'm close enough to the screen that the HD makes that small difference in detail.

I've watched HD stuff at friend's places, and it's still just moving pictures on the screen. I'm not really that keen on replacing the DVD library with Blu-Ray discs, and I don't have cable TV because Netflix+Internet means I can watch anything I care to watch with relative ease for a lot cheaper, and that is even without pirating stuff.

Did I mention I'm relatively cheap? The TV is 6 years old. I wanted a bigger TV than the 19" that blew up on me, and at the time the 19" flat screens were still more expensive than the 29" SDTV tube on super sale. Oh, and my kids. I wanted a TV that could take a beating if necessary, and given their proclivity of tossing blocks and other things around at that age, flat screen was out.

I don't think you could buy a tube TV even if you wanted to now.

There is always Goodwill, but when the tube dies, I'm getting a flat screen, simply by virtue of them being the only things available.
 
Firethorn
2012-01-10 02:38:24 PM
DoBeDoBeDo: Really depends on how you read that, if it's an ATX case you could put new components/PS in there. Might have to do some cutting depending on what the back of the case looks like port wise, but other than that you should be good.

I was reminded of the old 'Grandfather's Axe' tale. You know, 'this is my Great Grandfather's axe. Sure, Grandpa replaced the haft, father replaced the head, and I replaced the haft again last year, but it's my Great Grandfather's axe'.

As for cutting - all the ATX cases I've seen have a rectangle cutout for the ports, and motherboards come with a custom insert with matching holes for it's ports sized for that cutout.
 
Donnchadha [TotalFark]
2012-01-10 02:40:16 PM
I'm not worried that my TV is obsolete. I know it for a fact.

It's real fun watching "widescreen" broadcast TV when they just cut off the extra parts instead of making it letterbox. However, since my TV still works, I'm not shelling out money to address a minor inconvenience.
 
farkeruk
2012-01-10 04:48:45 PM
RobotSpider: My TV should be capable of producing a quality picture. That's all. Leave the audio, broadcast-tuner, and apps to other equipment. THEN it'll be reasonably upgrade-proof. I will only have to upgrade when the signal-transport changes significantly. Over the last 25 years, it's gone from coax, to composite, to component, to HDMI. I can handle 3 or 4 upgrades in 25 years. Leave the picture to the tv. Everything else is already being done better on computers and set-top boxes.

THIS

Most of this technology is just about shafting you, the consumer. You buy the box and then get shafted for the upgrades at way over what upgrading a connected PC would charge you.

Incidentally, can anyone suggest a PC to link to a PC to use as a media centre? Not worried about tuning, just want something I can use that I can put all my movies on. No, I don't want to pay an Apple tax.
 
poot_rootbeer
2012-01-10 06:47:44 PM
Yeah, my 8-bit NES had an "expansion port," too. Doesn't mean anybody ever bothered to create something to plug into it.

/Miracle Piano System doesn't count.
 
moothemagiccow
2012-01-11 01:06:15 AM
mattymo: as for these fancy remotes coming out with the TVs... this Samsung and the LG that was announced the other day.... who actually uses the remote that comes with the TV? Unless it integrates with my cable DVR or anyone's dTV or Dish remote... what good is it? My TV remote sits in a drawer

I do. I don't have cable or a DVR. The TV has HDMI-CEC so it connects to my PS3 and I watch videos and netflix using the tv remote.
 
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