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2012-01-10 09:17:28 AM
I look
into the dark face
of my degree

haunting me owning me taking me raping me

the world does not see
me
the world sees
my degree
made of money
taken from me

Slavery
this is me
slavery
forced on me
slavery

my degree
whips me
beats me
forces me onto the bed
i cry
i wish i was dead

my degree
40,000 degrees
burning me
alive
no, i'm dead

thanks, degree
 
2012-01-10 09:25:33 AM
I began my college career in a different time. It was the late '90s ... Now, here I sit, two years after graduating

Over 10 years for college? At $600 per semester he could have had that degree for about $5k almost a decade ago. If the dude is looking for someone to blame for the student loans he should really look in the mirror.
 
2012-01-10 09:27:56 AM
if you neglect to blog each day
something something, barista
burma shave.
.com
 
2012-01-10 09:30:05 AM
Pocket Ninja: I look
into the dark face
of my degree

haunting me owning me taking me raping me


*wipes tear* That was beautiful.
 
2012-01-10 09:32:27 AM
I transferred to the University of Minnesota after meeting the Minnesota woman of my dreams and studied history and Latin for three years. I did well enough at the U to gain entry to the University of Chicago's Master of Arts Program in the Social Sciences.

Please can we get a "No shiat" tag?

/a "Sherlock" tag would also suffice
 
2012-01-10 09:33:09 AM
Dude shelled out $40-80k for his poetry degree, and complains that the educational system failed him. Sounds about right.

I had $40-80k of college debt, too (I've been out for a while, so it is slowing going down). The difference is I went after degrees that would pay off down the road(accounting, computer science, and MBA). My debt-to-salary ratio is now quite manageable..

Was Accounting my first choice all those years ago? F*ck, no! I wanted to be a historian or an English teacher. But after taking stock of where I wanted to be and what I wanted in life, my wife told me to get a degree that would buy her a house.

Life decisions. Live with them.
 
2012-01-10 09:34:25 AM
Majors and their unemployment rate:
1. Actuarial Science-0 percent
2. Astronomy and Astrophysics-0 percent
3. Educational Administration and Supervision-0 percent
4. Geological and Geophysical Engineering-0 percent
5. Pharmacology-0 percent
6. School Student Counseling-0 percent
7. Agricultural Economics-1.3 percent
8. Medical Technologies Technicians-1.4 percent
9.Atmospheric Sciences and Meteorology-1.6 percent
10. Environmental Engineering, Nursing, and Nuclear Industrial Radiology and Biological Technologies-2.2 percent

Also...

The Wall Street Journal compiled a list of college majors with the highest and lowest unemployment rates based on data from the Georgetown University Center on Education and the Workforce. The 10 majors with unemployment rates greater than 10 percent are:

1. Clinical Psychology; 19.5%
2. Miscellaneous Fine Arts; 16.2%
3. United States History; 15.1%
4. Library Science; 15%
5. Educational Psychology; 10.9%
6. Military Technologies; 10.9%
7. Architecture; 10.6%
8. Industrialized and Organizational Psychology; 10.4%
9. Miscellaneous Psychology; 10.3%
10. Linguistics and Comparative Language and Literature; 10.2%

/HuffPo and Yahoo news
 
2012-01-10 09:51:00 AM
Pocket Ninja: haunting me owning me taking me raping me

This came to mind from that:

i575.photobucket.com
 
2012-01-10 09:58:50 AM
Lucky LaRue: Dude shelled out $40-80k for his poetry degree, and complains that the educational system failed him. Sounds about right.

I had $40-80k of college debt, too (I've been out for a while, so it is slowing going down). The difference is I went after degrees that would pay off down the road(accounting, computer science, and MBA). My debt-to-salary ratio is now quite manageable..

Was Accounting my first choice all those years ago? F*ck, no! I wanted to be a historian or an English teacher. But after taking stock of where I wanted to be and what I wanted in life, my wife told me to get a degree that would buy her a house.

Life decisions. Live with them.


So your wife chose your career for you? Sounds like a rough life
 
2012-01-10 09:59:02 AM
damageddude: I began my college career in a different time. It was the late '90s ... Now, here I sit, two years after graduating

Over 10 years for college? At $600 per semester he could have had that degree for about $5k almost a decade ago. If the dude is looking for someone to blame for the student loans he should really look in the mirror.


Someone's reading comprehension might have been better if they had gone to college.
 
2012-01-10 10:00:13 AM
24.media.tumblr.com


/chin beard are soo old!
 
2012-01-10 10:00:51 AM
I'm starting to think that people write these "disgruntled snowflake" articles just to troll the ITGs here on Fark.
 
2012-01-10 10:02:25 AM
Lucky LaRue: Dude shelled out $40-80k for his poetry degree, and complains that the educational system failed him. Sounds about right.

I had $40-80k of college debt, too (I've been out for a while, so it is slowing going down). The difference is I went after degrees that would pay off down the road(accounting, computer science, and MBA). My debt-to-salary ratio is now quite manageable..

Was Accounting my first choice all those years ago? F*ck, no! I wanted to be a historian or an English teacher. But after taking stock of where I wanted to be and what I wanted in life, my wife told me to get a degree that would buy her a house.

Life decisions. Live with them.




Nothing clarifies and focuses reality like marriage and the responsibilities that come with having to provide for others.
 
2012-01-10 10:02:33 AM
Pocket Ninja: awesomeness

Bravo, sir. That's why you show up in a pretty green color.
 
2012-01-10 10:02:40 AM
Interpretation: "I'm a loser and would have failed regardless of what degree I took or if I had never taken one at all. I never really wanted to educate myself, but was bored and wanted to do anything but work. So now I spend my time blogging (aka attention whoring) and writing poetry that no one will ever read. And I want to encourage others to do the same."
 
2012-01-10 10:04:19 AM
Lucky LaRue: Dude shelled out $40-80k for his poetry degree, and complains that the educational system failed him. Sounds about right.

I had $40-80k of college debt, too (I've been out for a while, so it is slowing going down). The difference is I went after degrees that would pay off down the road(accounting, computer science, and MBA). My debt-to-salary ratio is now quite manageable..

Was Accounting my first choice all those years ago? F*ck, no! I wanted to be a historian or an English teacher. But after taking stock of where I wanted to be and what I wanted in life, my wife told me to get a degree that would buy her a house.

Life decisions. Live with them.


Except that when you take out any other loan and find yourself unable to pay it back, you can declare bankruptcy. You can't do that with educational loans, which makes it one of the biggest scams going for taking advantage of young kids that don't know better.
 
2012-01-10 10:04:23 AM
the guy describes himself as a "poet/blogger". Let's not all be shocked that he's not the brightest bulb.
 
2012-01-10 10:04:35 AM
I'm 29, 2 classes shy of my bachelors in English(writing), and I'm making 40k a year doing a job I absolutely love. As a result of my job I am more inclined to finish my degree and seek an M.div to continue on.

/csb
 
2012-01-10 10:04:50 AM
Liberal arts degree? Seriously?

Geez dude...shoulda got a degree in common sense first.
 
2012-01-10 10:05:44 AM
For as smart as our next batch of future decision makers are supposed to be, I cant help but feel some sadness at how easily college kids are suckered into buying drugs at exorbitant prices these days. You almost expect some resistance when you throw out prices like that.

//AAA Private Reserve Lady Gaga OG, just $70 for 3 grams
 
2012-01-10 10:06:05 AM
Colleges and universities want your money. They shroud their avarice in flowing gowns and ivory towers, but they are not cradling knowledge so much as they are selling sheepskin.

Look at you and your fancy sentences. Except "ivory towers" is not original, and diplomas are now made out of paper.
 
2012-01-10 10:07:02 AM
Now, here I sit

broken hearted...
 
2012-01-10 10:08:05 AM
I was sold on the idea that I could do anything with a degree in the liberal arts from Harvard.

I see his problem.
 
2012-01-10 10:09:17 AM
You can make fun of liberal arts majors all you want, but for a while there (mid/late 90's through most of the 00's), people at colleges, high school guidance councilors, and others who all those young impressionable people counted on to give them good advice pretty much said that any college degree was your ticket to anywhere. It was partially true for a couple years as the 90's came to a close and the economy was soaring, but once the economy turned south and the too many people got degrees(based on the aforementioned advice), lots of people got screwed.

While today you have nobody to blame but yourself if you start a useless degree and can't get a job(but if you just want the experience/education and can afford it, go for it), there for a while a lot of people were lied to and are paying for it now(the lies still go on, but fewer believe them).

/no degree
//but have skills and experience
///seems to keep me employed well enough
 
2012-01-10 10:09:41 AM
Blogging is graffiti with punctuation
 
2012-01-10 10:09:42 AM
[insert smarmy engineering comment]
 
2012-01-10 10:10:07 AM
There once was a student who cried
Because his debt was to high
So he got on the net
And cried till he was wet
And no shiat you have a lot of debt you idiot, poets don't get paid a lot you dumb ass hippy, get a real job!
 
2012-01-10 10:10:11 AM
macross87: [24.media.tumblr.com image 300x225]


/chin beard are soo old!


God, people like him are here now?


/3 days ago I would not have gotten this. Thank you Netflix.
 
2012-01-10 10:10:54 AM
This is what happens when you pamper your children and don't teach them the harsh realities of the cold, capitalist society we live in. You make money by stealing, lying, cheating, and otherwise scamming others. You fail at those skills, you will fail at life and be left behind to rot. Life is a zero sum game.
 
2012-01-10 10:11:44 AM
Go to school for what you love, not what will pay the highest.

Highschool was it for me. Higher education would have been a waste of my time, and my folks money.

Now, I own a small business in a tourist town. Open 5 months out of the year.. 6 months "off" where I then travel around the country taking photographs.

I'm happy as a clam.
 
2012-01-10 10:12:31 AM
Oh look! THIS thread again!

It's too early for popcorn though.

/astronautical engineering, 4.0, getting a kick, etc.
 
2012-01-10 10:12:31 AM
FTFA: I did well enough at the U to gain entry to the University of Chicago's Master of Arts Program in the Social Sciences.

"Social science is science's special needs stepsister" PJ O'Rourke
 
2012-01-10 10:13:01 AM
bsharitt: mid/late 90's through most of the 00's), people at colleges, high school guidance councilors, and others who all those young impressionable people counted on to give them good advice pretty much said that any college degree was your ticket to anywhere.

So true, I remember hearing the "could do anything with a degree in the liberal arts." line more than once.
 
2012-01-10 10:13:15 AM
D_Evans45: For as smart as our next batch of future decision makers are supposed to be, I cant help but feel some sadness at how easily college kids are suckered into buying drugs at exorbitant prices these days. You almost expect some resistance when you throw out prices like that.

//AAA Private Reserve Lady Gaga OG, just $70 for 3 grams


I'm not sure how different that is from how much the elderly are paying for their meds.

//Have no facts for a real frame of reference, but I'm sure some Farker does.
 
2012-01-10 10:13:25 AM
There once was a degree from Nantucket..
When used for a job interview the hirer would say go Fark it.
The self entitled douchebag did cry
How could all of my peers have lied
That a liberal arts degree will only get me a job at the Coffer Market!
 
2012-01-10 10:14:44 AM
So this is the thread where all the accounting and business majors declare their superiority over all the Liberal Art majors.

/your job is still boring
//follow your passion
///money isn't everything


Now attack!!!
 
2012-01-10 10:16:19 AM
blogger/poet

I read that as "blogger/patriot". I've spent too long in the Politics tab.
 
2012-01-10 10:16:50 AM
GAT_00: Pocket Ninja: haunting me owning me taking me raping me

This came to mind from that:

[i575.photobucket.com image 500x732]


I wasn't the only one, I see.
 
2012-01-10 10:17:05 AM
Starbucks doesn't require a degree, dummy.
 
2012-01-10 10:17:16 AM
Never understood majoring in poetry. Poetry is what you do between shifts at the coal mine.
 
2012-01-10 10:17:19 AM
santadog: Go to school for what you love, not what will pay the highest.

Highschool was it for me. Higher education would have been a waste of my time, and my folks money.

Now, I own a small business in a tourist town. Open 5 months out of the year.. 6 months "off" where I then travel around the country taking photographs.

I'm happy as a clam.


Part-time hobo? I loved watching those black-and-white films about those guys.
 
2012-01-10 10:18:04 AM
Setting up a Coverdell account for my three month old today, so I'm really get a kick out these replies. Yes son, you are going to pre-school, the elementary, then middle school, then junior high, then high school, and then college. They are all equivalent and it's my job to make sure you excel through all of them. After that, enjoy your life.
 
2012-01-10 10:18:08 AM
Pants full of macaroni!!: blogger/poet

I read that as "blogger/patriot". I've spent too long in the Politics tab.


The Blogger Corps is the most elite of the warrior classes.
 
2012-01-10 10:19:58 AM
Now, I own a small business in a tourist town. Open 5 months out of the year.. 6 months "off" where I then travel around the country taking photographs.

I'm happy as a clam.



But evidently can't count to 12.
 
2012-01-10 10:22:39 AM
urbangirl: But evidently can't count to 12.

He didn't mention that last month (March)...where he works 90 hours a week for an accounting firm preparing for the end of tax season.
 
2012-01-10 10:23:04 AM
BunkyBrewman: Majors and their unemployment rate:
1. Actuarial Science-0 percent
2. Astronomy and Astrophysics-0 percent


Ok, I have to call BS on this one.

It might vaguely be possible that everyone who wants to work in Astronomy has a job. It will be a crappy postdoc or adjunct position with no benefits and a lower salary than Walmart, but they might be employed.

But the actual number of true positions in this field is so small as to be meaningless. My Dad loves astronomy- it's been a life long hobby to the point of grinding his own mirrors for telescopes. But he majored in chemistry many moons ago because he knew he could never actually get a job in the field and he needed to put food on the table.

Me? I love it too- but I ended up majoring in chemistry for similar reasons. The situation won't be any better when my kids get to college.
 
2012-01-10 10:23:05 AM
Pr1nc3ss: So this is the thread where all the accounting and business majors declare their superiority over all the Liberal Art majors.

/your job is still boring
//follow your passion
///money isn't everything


Now attack!!!


Following your passion as a career choice only works if it puts food on the table. If your passion does not put food on the table then find a job that finances the following of your passion.

I told my niece who wants to be an artist that she needs to obtain job skills to support herself until she establishes herself as an artist.

Artist, writer, musician and singer are all just another word for unemployed a lot of the time.
 
2012-01-10 10:24:06 AM
Yeah, shelling out 80k for a poetry degree was dumb, but I sympathize with the kid.

I'm of his generation (25) and the whole time while growing up we were told:

"Get a degree in anything, price doesn't matter, get student loans and don't worry about it."

It was a mantra that our media, teachers, guidance counselors, and parents repeated to us ad nauseam. I know so many people that fell into that trap it's ridiculous. The adults that we're supposed to helping us were driving into debt slavery early in life.

I'm lucky that I had parents that saw who colleges and student loans were a scam, most of my peer did not. I got out with a MBA in IT with only 20k debt. My friends and cousins have debt that's close to 100k for undergrad.

If we really wanted to fix it in this country, we would:

1) Private student loans that could be dismissed in bankruptcy
2) Cap public student loans to 30k max for undergrad
3) Sallie Mae becomes a completely government "company". None of this half-government half-corporate nonsense.

The market would then correct itself very quickly.
 
2012-01-10 10:24:25 AM
Headso: bsharitt: mid/late 90's through most of the 00's), people at colleges, high school guidance councilors, and others who all those young impressionable people counted on to give them good advice pretty much said that any college degree was your ticket to anywhere.

So true, I remember hearing the "could do anything with a degree in the liberal arts." line more than once.


Yes, me too. My soft science master's got me exactly one job, straight out of college, and it's been downhill from from there. God, I miss the late 90's.

At least I didn't owe anything on it when I graduated.
 
2012-01-10 10:25:18 AM
Glockenspiel Hero: Me? I love it too- but I ended up majoring in chemistry for similar reasons.

Way to shoot for the sink.
 
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