Too bad this is the only primary Huntsman won't get shellacked in.

Coco LaFemme: Too bad this is the only primary Huntsman won't get shellacked in.

I'd say he's got good odds for the Utah primary, but that's the last one in the country (June 26).

Is Mormoncraft in public alpha yet?

The GOP nominating a Mormon would be, relatively speaking, as progressive and historically momentous as the nation electing a black president was.

With 5 votes cast, CNN projects Rick Perry will win the NH Primary with 46.78% of the vote. Romney is surprisingly projected to be eaten by a Puma.

They're obviously winning because of the powers bestowed upon them by their magic underwear.

Weird, I figured they'd have just a cult following.

Serious Black: They're obviously winning because of the powers bestowed upon them by their magic underwear.

Or that New Hampshire might find them less crazy than their competition.

Rashnu: The GOP nominating a Mormon would be, relatively speaking, as progressive and historically momentous as the nation electing a black president was.

I think it ranks below nominating Palin as VP. But yes, the GOP is traditionally very blue-blooded protestant -- same could be said of a Santorum nomination.

Why is a nine vote poll newsworthy? I know people have a hard time understanding statistics, but OH COME ON!

The only people that care they are Mormons are the GOP themselves.

Rashnu: The GOP nominating a Mormon would be, relatively speaking, as progressive and historically momentous as the nation electing a black president was.

I get what you are saying, because Mormons are almost universally Republicans, yet are often kept on the back burner with respect to the national tickets, much like black people are almost universally Democrats yet were never put on a national ticket.

So the Iowa caucus people ever figure out who really won the caucus? I know they called it for Mittens but there was some problem with extra 20 people that couldn't be accounted for,

blahpers: Why is a nine vote poll newsworthy?

News? Sir, this is CNN! They'd show cockfighting highlights if they thought it would pull in ratings.

DarnoKonrad: Rashnu: The GOP nominating a Mormon would be, relatively speaking, as progressive and historically momentous as the nation electing a black president was.

I think it ranks below nominating Palin as VP. But yes, the GOP is traditionally very blue-blooded protestant -- same could be said of a Santorum nomination.



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Lost Thought 00: Rashnu: The GOP nominating a Mormon would be, relatively speaking, as progressive and historically momentous as the nation electing a black president was.

I get what you are saying, because Mormons are almost universally Republicans, yet are often kept on the back burner with respect to the national tickets, much like black people are almost universally Democrats yet were never put on a national ticket.

Isn't it interesting that the current Senate Majority Leader is a Mormon?

Philip Francis Queeg: DarnoKonrad: Rashnu: The GOP nominating a Mormon would be, relatively speaking, as progressive and historically momentous as the nation electing a black president was.

I think it ranks below nominating Palin as VP. But yes, the GOP is traditionally very blue-blooded protestant -- same could be said of a Santorum nomination.

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He's a Democrat.

DamnYankees: Lost Thought 00: yet are often kept on the back burner with respect to the national tickets

Are they? I'm curious about this. Blacks are, what, 20% of the Democratic base? Maybe more? What percentage of the GOP base is Mormon? I'm not really sure this comparison works.

I have no idea the actual numbers nor do I necessarily believe the comparison is ideal. I was simply trying to give him the benefit of the doubt

One is a Mormon son of a MILLIONAIRE the other is a Mormon son of a BILLIONAIRE. So confusing. Who to choose....

Huntsman is a Mormon as much as Obama is a Christian - that is, sort of lukewarm about it all. I suspect he's basically a Jack Mormon, like Obama's a sort of a "C&E Christian." IOW, Huntman's Mormonism is irrelevant. Come to think of it, Mormonism is irrelevant. After all, it's no crazier or less crazy than standard Christianity (or Hinduism, or Islam, or Zoroastrianism, or anything else). I don't understand why so many people get their panties in a wad about Mormons.

DarnoKonrad: But yes, the GOP is traditionally very blue-blooded protestant -- same could be said of a Santorum nomination.

What do the Catholics want with the presidency, now that they have a deathgrip on the Supreme Court?

DamnYankees: Rashnu: The GOP nominating a Mormon would be, relatively speaking, as progressive and historically momentous as the nation electing a black president was.

No, it wouldn't.

It's still very significant for the Post-Reagan GOP, and a huge biatch slap for the fundies that have been running the party.

It's not really that he is a Mormon, it's that he isn't a 'Christian'.

You'd think Santorum would be more popular in Dixville Notch.

Serious Black: Lost Thought 00: Rashnu: The GOP nominating a Mormon would be, relatively speaking, as progressive and historically momentous as the nation electing a black president was.

I get what you are saying, because Mormons are almost universally Republicans, yet are often kept on the back burner with respect to the national tickets, much like black people are almost universally Democrats yet were never put on a national ticket.

Isn't it interesting that the current Senate Majority Leader is a Mormon?

Yes, it is. About as interesting as one of the major GOP candidates (up until a little while ago) being black.

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With 5 votes cast, CNN projects Rick Perry will win the NH Primary with 46.78% of the vote. Romney is surprisingly projected to be eaten by a Puma.

"He was delicious."

Lost Thought 00: With 5 votes cast, CNN projects Rick Perry will win the NH Primary with 46.78% of the vote. Romney is surprisingly projected to be eaten by a Puma.

Romney is projected to be delicious.

MFAWG: DamnYankees: Rashnu: The GOP nominating a Mormon would be, relatively speaking, as progressive and historically momentous as the nation electing a black president was.

No, it wouldn't.

It's still very significant for the Post-Reagan GOP, and a huge biatch slap for the fundies that have been running the party.

It's not really that he is a Mormon, it's that he isn't a 'Christian'.

I don't think nominating yet another milquetoast Caucasian plutocrat is any kind of progress for the GOP, or any other party, just because he prays to a slightly different invisible man in the sky.

canyoneer: Huntsman is a Mormon as much as Obama is a Christian - that is, sort of lukewarm about it all. I suspect he's basically a Jack Mormon, like Obama's a sort of a "C&E Christian." IOW, Huntman's Mormonism is irrelevant. Come to think of it, Mormonism is irrelevant. After all, it's no crazier or less crazy than standard Christianity (or Hinduism, or Islam, or Zoroastrianism, or anything else). I don't understand why so many people get their panties in a wad about Mormons.

I think Mormonism is irrelevant only if the candidate says he will ignore the advice of the President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter, Thomas Monson; even if Monson claims he was sent "directly by god". If a president is going to ignore the advice of his advisors or national security team for someone who claims god is giving him directions that is something people should know before he is in office.

Of course ignoring Monson could also get someone excommunicated so the question is will a Mormon put country before religion.

Rashnu: The GOP nominating a Mormon would be, relatively speaking, as progressive and historically momentous as the nation electing a black president was.

150 years ago, black people in this country were considered subhuman property, while mormonism consisted only of an "ex"-con-man with magical tablets in his hat.

Not sure what my point is, just wanted to put that out there.

Guidette Frankentits: So the Iowa caucus people ever figure out who really won the caucus? I know they called it for Mittens but there was some problem with extra 20 people that couldn't be accounted for,

There's no problem at all. See, there is no recount in a caucus. Whatever is turned in, is what it is.

phritz: Rashnu: The GOP nominating a Mormon would be, relatively speaking, as progressive and historically momentous as the nation electing a black president was.

150 years ago, black people in this country were considered subhuman property, while mormonism consisted only of an "ex"-con-man with magical tablets in his hat.

Not sure what my point is, just wanted to put that out there.


I think your point is that we shall never truly be free until a Scientologist sits in the White House.

LasersHurt: You'd think Santorum would be more popular in Dixville Notch.

I think he'd be more popular in "Don't put your Dixville in that Notch unless she's ovulating."

sprawl15: Lost Thought 00: With 5 votes cast, CNN projects Rick Perry will win the NH Primary with 46.78% of the vote. Romney is surprisingly projected to be eaten by a Puma.

Romney is projected to be delicious.

That would explain the Christie endorsement.

DarnoKonrad: phritz: Rashnu: The GOP nominating a Mormon would be, relatively speaking, as progressive and historically momentous as the nation electing a black president was.

150 years ago, black people in this country were considered subhuman property, while mormonism consisted only of an "ex"-con-man with magical tablets in his hat.

Not sure what my point is, just wanted to put that out there.


I think your point is that we shall never truly be free until a Scientologist sits in the White House.

TOM CRUISE 4 PREZ!

Carth: I think Mormonism is irrelevant only if the candidate says he will ignore the advice of the President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter, Thomas Monson; even if Monson claims he was sent "directly by god". If a president is going to ignore the advice of his advisors or national security team for someone who claims god is giving him directions that is something people should know before he is in office. Of course ignoring Monson could also get someone excommunicated so the question is will a Mormon put country before religion.

So, I presume you would demand such assurances from any Catholic candidate - that he or she promise not to take orders from the Pope. And you would demand that Obama promise not to take orders from Reverend Jeremiah Wright, for example?

Will a Muslim put country before religion? Will a Pagan put country before religion? Will an Atheist put country before non-religion?

Perhaps you advocate that all candidates for public office sign a pledge to put country before religion before they can be placed on any ballot.

Or is your concern reserved exclusively for Mormons?

Dixville Notch? Bet that place stinks like fish.

GO HUNTSMAN!!
Would be nice if he could get within a few points of Romney or juuuust edge him out.

Romney can't bash Jon in a debate except for weak attempts at showing that working as an ambassador for your country is going against your country party.

"Hart's Location"?

So if you live there, can you say your home is where the Hart is located?

Edmund: A rotten borough, sir, is a constituency where the owner
of the land corruptly controls the both the voters and the MP.

Prince George: Good, yes...and a robber button is...?

Edmund: Could we leave that for a moment? Dunny-on-the-Wold is a tuppenny-
ha'penny place. Half an acre of sodden marshland in the Suffolk Fens
with an empty town hall on it. Population: three rather mangy cows, a
dachshund named `Colin', and a small hen in its late forties.

canyoneer: Carth: I think Mormonism is irrelevant only if the candidate says he will ignore the advice of the President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter, Thomas Monson; even if Monson claims he was sent "directly by god". If a president is going to ignore the advice of his advisors or national security team for someone who claims god is giving him directions that is something people should know before he is in office. Of course ignoring Monson could also get someone excommunicated so the question is will a Mormon put country before religion.

So, I presume you would demand such assurances from any Catholic candidate - that he or she promise not to take orders from the Pope. And you would demand that Obama promise not to take orders from Reverend Jeremiah Wright, for example?

Will a Muslim put country before religion? Will a Pagan put country before religion? Will an Atheist put country before non-religion?

Perhaps you advocate that all candidates for public office sign a pledge to put country before religion before they can be placed on any ballot.

Or is your concern reserved exclusively for Mormons?

I remember watching JFK's speech about his Catholicism, there was a real fear he'd take orders form the Pope so he address the fears and people decided they were ok with it. I think Romney/Huntsman should do the same thing if elected. Most people don't know much about Mormonism or what it says in Doctrine and Covenants.

I am always a bit concerned a person might make a decision based on faith instead of reason. That is heightened with Mormonism due to the tenet of the President's direction communication with God and the fact members can be excommunicated for ignoring his directions.

canyoneer: I don't understand why so many people get their panties in a wad about Mormons.

Because from the perspective of an evangelical Christian, Mormonism is a cult, and there is only one cult which is allowed to run America.

As a mainline Protestant, I'd prefer a Mormon President to an evangelical one. The Mormons don't typically try to force their pointless religious laws onto outsiders.