When you imply it's going to cost more... is that because of the price point or are you including the inevitability of the customer database being stolen and Sony not bothering to tell anyone about it for a week while Bad People are running around with all your stolen info?

/ fark Sony and everything they touch

I'll be getting one. Maybe not the Sony one, but a Google TV box. There's just no reason to put up with the UI from my cable box.

What about FarkTV, Sony?

downstairs: Maybe because the market is already saturated, and this provides nothing new?

My new Blu-Ray player gets Netflix, Hulu, You tube, and a bunch of other stuff. So does like 10 different types of players.

eff that. I got a WD Live TV hub. It has access to hulu, netflix, youtube, and all the other crap (that id never use it for) and it holds 1 TB of digital media, playing in all formats. Can stream via a network, plays every video file ive thrown at it. (MKV's require a little trickeration, but nothing crazy) Best investment ive made in a while.

No, Google TV failed because just about every media company shiat their pants when they realized you might not be reminded 13 times an hour that YOU WERE WATCHING NBC and blocked access. If it had been allowed to troll the various content media sites and serve up shows available it would have been useful/awesome. As it turns out though, it's just another Roku.

This is great news. I'm happy to watch Sony fail. Again. The arrogance of the people that run that company is breathtaking.

Any media/distribution format that Sony supports/advocates is pretty much destined to fail. Their uncanny ability to back the loser in any battle between formats is amusing in its consistency. It's like the opposite of a super power.

The reason Google TV failed was because the people at Google simply did not know what they were doing. It really is that simple.

No proper user computer interaction trials took place and decisions about how it functioned were made by engineers not user experts.

Google cried about IP issues with Logitech and pulled the beta before any data could be collected, then launched the product without change ...morons

/a little "inside baseball" there...

I don't get it, there is nothing about price in the article, so i'm not sure what the op is talking about here.

apoptotic: Any media/distribution format that Sony supports/advocates is pretty much destined to fail. Their uncanny ability to back the loser in any battle between formats is amusing in its consistency. It's like the opposite of a super power.

Bluray, DVD, etc would like a word with you.

Antimatter: I don't get it, there is nothing about price in the article, so i'm not sure what the op is talking about here.

The Logitech one is $99 now but was $299 six months ago

Digital video downloaded legally *snicker*
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/Seriously, it's 2012. Be the technologically advanced society your ancestors wanted you to be.

On another topic, anyone out there have a Logitech Squeezebox? Those things are cool.

theorellior: Perlin Noise: The reason Google TV failed was because the people at Google simply did not know what they were doing. It really is that simple.

I definitely got that vibe from the presentation they gave.

My sister was on the Logitech end of that travesty. We talked about it for hours. Google just farked them over big time.

Antimatter: apoptotic: Any media/distribution format that Sony supports/advocates is pretty much destined to fail. Their uncanny ability to back the loser in any battle between formats is amusing in its consistency. It's like the opposite of a super power.

Bluray, DVD, etc would like a word with you.

I'll give you Bluray, but in the process that led to the birth of DVD Sony and Phillips were developing MMCD, while another group was developing SDD. The computer industry didn't want to see another format war and threatened to boycott them both if they couldn't agree on a single format. Sony and Phillips ended up bowing to the group that was developing SDD and it was used as the platform for the development of DVD.

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Thanks Sony, but you've already got me covered.

the problem with trying to make people want something they might not already have or want is when you come out of the gate like the lazy turd sony always is with their marketing, they're about as graceful and exciting with their product launches as a drunk asking for change because their "car broke down" and they need "gas money"

there is no such as a market with too much saturation, just companies that suck

redpanda2: I'll be getting one. Maybe not the Sony one, but a Google TV box. There's just no reason to put up with the UI from my cable box.

There's already an interactive TV product that puts your cable company's shiatty Scientific Atlanta DVRs and shiattier software to shame.

It's called TiVo and it's been around since the late '90s.

Bought one for Christmas and I will never--NEVER--go back.

downstairs: downstairs: Now if I could just find something that could stream a playlist from my fileserver (Windows Server 2003), I'd be set. My blu-ray says it can but its bunk.

Thing is I don't want to spend the money on a full-on media center, because I already have all the functionality of streaming netflix, youtube, etc.

I want it to do just that- music over the LAN. Searching, playlists, file browser for finding one song.

I should add- stream to my TV without the need for a full-on computer (which I had but it done blew up.)


I've had some good experiences with PlayOn (new window), it streams media from a computer on your local wireless network to any current generation gaming console.

seanwlambert: I have a 46" Sony Google TV and absolutely love it. Though, the only (slight) downside is that it has no "game mode". There is a noticeable lag when playing video games. It's not completely crippling though; I'm used to it and regularly finish at or near the top of my BF3 team. The biggest downside to the lag is that anyone else that comes over and plays something complains the whole time.


I just bought a 40" Sony Google TV, PS3, and 6-speaker Sony surround sound for Christmas this year. The whole family loves everything they do.

Sure, we're a little late to the game, but we got great prices and are blown away at the collective quality increase over the previous 1993 29" TV, PS2, and no-extra-speakers setup we had.

/Not sure what everyone else biatches about with this Google TV stuff--maybe we're easily amused and don't notice certain things.
//Between the Wii, PS3, and TV, we have 3 ways to access Netflix. That still amazes me.
///The computers are in the same room, so I guess it's really 5 ways to get to Netflix.
////Plus the kids use their ipods, so what's that, 7 Netflixy thingies?
//And we got most of it from Best Buy--don't understand the rabid hate there, either. The stuff was in stock and decently-priced.

I have the 40 inch sony google tv. I love the damn thing. I have media on my various computers that i can access, and im always on Netflix. I know that you can have other devices perform the same function, but for 600ish bucks and it does it all right out of the box. Im sold.

jayhawk88: just about every media company shiat their pants when they realized you might not be reminded 13 times an hour that YOU WERE WATCHING NBC .

I was under the impression that all broadcast media had to identify themselves at least four times an hour, by FCC regulations.

Not that they don't show a self-promo at the end of every tv commercial break.

liverpoolumd: I have the 40 inch sony google tv. I love the damn thing. I have media on my various computers that i can access, and im always on Netflix. I know that you can have other devices perform the same function, but for 600ish bucks and it does it all right out of the box. Im sold.

I hear you can watch tubeplus on it

Rich Cream: I was under the impression that all broadcast media had to identify themselves at least four times an hour, by FCC regulations.

This is true, I remember from my radio amateurs exam, you have to identify at least every 15 minutes. I assume it`s international.

Google TV was/is a good idea in theory--who wouldn't want to be able to search for viewable content from a variety of sources the way you search for websites?

The main problem is that nobody knows that exists, and those that do don't know what it does. And the execution probably sucks too, I have no idea because I don't give enough of a shiat to check it out.

Yankees Team Gynecologist: Google TV was/is a good idea in theory--who wouldn't want to be able to search for viewable content from a variety of sources the way you search for websites?

The main problem is that nobody knows that exists, and those that do don't know what it does Google thought they could hook into every online video source and hijack the ad revenue without any sort of compensation.

1) Build a cheap HTPC
2) Hook it up to your TV/Home Theater setup
3) Configure the menu system of your choice

my computer has a hdmi cable into my tv. my ps3 can play netflix or files off my pc. All I need out of a tv anymore is 1080p and multiple hdmi inputs. that's pretty much it.

downstairs: Zoidfarb: downstairs: downstairs: Now if I could just find something that could stream a playlist from my fileserver (Windows Server 2003), I'd be set. My blu-ray says it can but its bunk.

Thing is I don't want to spend the money on a full-on media center, because I already have all the functionality of streaming netflix, youtube, etc.

I want it to do just that- music over the LAN. Searching, playlists, file browser for finding one song.

I should add- stream to my TV without the need for a full-on computer (which I had but it done blew up.)


I've had some good experiences with PlayOn (new window), it streams media from a computer on your local wireless network to any current generation gaming console.

And you're happy with how it handles music and random playlists and the like?

Because everything else I've seen sucks.

The other thing that sucks, is I often want to listen to music WHILE playing Wii. So that wouldn't help.

Still, thanks... I'll check out the demo when my Wii comes back from the shop.

I only really use it for streaming video, my music just comes straight out of the computer.

dready zim: Rich Cream: I was under the impression that all broadcast media had to identify themselves at least four times an hour, by FCC regulations.

This is true, I remember from my radio amateurs exam, you have to identify at least every 15 minutes. I assume it`s international.

Every ten minutes, but that's only for the amateur service. US TV and Radio needs to do it only once an hour, as I recall.

vinnydoz007: I got a WD Live TV hub. It has access to hulu, netflix, youtube, and all the other crap (that id never use it for) and it holds 1 TB of digital media, playing in all formats. Can stream via a network, plays every video file ive thrown at it. (MKV's require a little trickeration, but nothing crazy) Best investment ive made in a while.

Word. I got the WD TV media player a few years ago and I am still using it. It connects via Cat 5, or can read whatever file you throw on a usb storage device. Aside from Apple proprietary files, it plays everything.

I picked up a Logitech Revue from a friend. The app market is a joke so it's Amazon, Netflix, Hulu, or nothing. Web browsing is bootsy. YouTube is weak sauce.

If Google TV had launched with where it's at now, it would have done OK. Not great by any means though. I got one for Christmas in 2010 and quickly discovered it was a $300 Netflix app with a really shiatty browser.

Google had a chance to make an out of the box HTPC that every TV owner in America could use. Instead it put its name on cheap hardware that won't function as well as a netbook hooked up to a TV with jumper cables.

Netflix works great on it. The browser is farking horrible. No thought about the fact people don't have their couches 10 inches from the TV so unless you can read 10 pt font from across the room, you're screwed.

And all along it was promised that Android apps would become available in the first quarter of 2011. Well it arrived in November, and the GTV app store is complete garbage. It should tell you something that app that run fine on an Android phone cause the Revue to lag.

The Android Market for Google TV has only been up a couple of weeks. Expect lots of apps for it over the next few months as developers adapt.

Biggest problem with the Logitech is the processor sucks. The keyboard/remote is pretty sweet.

poot_rootbeer: redpanda2: I'll be getting one. Maybe not the Sony one, but a Google TV box. There's just no reason to put up with the UI from my cable box.

There's already an interactive TV product that puts your cable company's shiatty Scientific Atlanta DVRs and shiattier software to shame.

It's called TiVo and it's been around since the late '90s.

Bought one for Christmas and I will never--NEVER--go back.

Yeah, I'm not paying 20 bucks a month for a service plan unless the company is actually actively providing a service.

redpanda2: Yeah, I'm not paying 20 bucks a month for a service plan unless the company is actually actively providing a service.

They are. The difference between TiVo's interactive guide service and your cable company's is night and day. (TiVo = day.)

Plus, your cable bill goes down because you're just renting a CableCard from them and not an entire DVR.

In my area, the break-even point with the entry-level TiVo Premiere and 'Lifetime' service is about 5 to 5 1/2 years. But since I think TiVo's a better product, I don't mind if I end up paying more.

video man: SuperT: my computer has a hdmi cable into my tv. my ps3 can play netflix or files off my pc. All I need out of a tv anymore is 1080p and multiple hdmi inputs. that's pretty much it.

Sounds like a monitor.

/Because it is.

yet half the price!

Any `feature` made in hardware will be out of date real quick. I want my `universal calculator` (pc) to be reprogrammable for future tech.