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(The Raw Story)   Leon Panetta lets it slip that Iran is indeed developing nuclear capabilities   (rawstory.com) divider line 175
    More: Scary, CIA Director Leon Panetta, Iran, Strait of Hormuz, capability-based security, Face the Nation, nuclear weapons, United States Secretary of Defense  
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2012-01-09 04:14:05 PM
EVERYBODY PANIC

media.web.britannica.com
 
2012-01-09 04:16:38 PM
Can you let common knowledge slip?
 
2012-01-09 04:20:44 PM
Next thing you know, he'll break the big secret that the Pope is Catholic.
 
2012-01-09 04:22:41 PM
And if they do manage to build a nuclear weapon, they get to join the ranks of those who have one but will never use it anyway. MAD syndrome will immediately take over.

Also, why is there an ad to my right about Persian Princess personals? Weird.
 
2012-01-09 04:23:26 PM

FloydA: Next thing you know, he'll break the big secret that the Pope is Catholic.


OH FARK
 
2012-01-09 04:26:23 PM
I thought they wre using all those centrifuges to make falafel.

/Mmmmm....falafel
 
2012-01-09 04:51:02 PM
Leon's getting laaaaarger
 
2012-01-09 05:04:31 PM
Now Israel isn't going to want to be our friend.
 
2012-01-09 05:16:24 PM
wow, that's a shocker!
 
2012-01-09 05:20:56 PM
Iran is literally surrounded by US bases and US allies. If they aren't developing nukes, they'd be crazy. We would certainty want ones if we were surrounded.
 
2012-01-09 05:22:18 PM

FloydA: Next thing you know, he'll break the big secret that the Pope is Catholic.


What about the excretory practices of the family Ursidae?
 
2012-01-09 05:27:42 PM

GAT_00: Iran is literally surrounded by US bases and US allies. If they aren't developing nukes, they'd be crazy. We would certainty want ones if we were surrounded.


Well they had to make a choice between nukes and stealth aircraft. You can't research the technology at the same time. It won't matter how many tank stacks anyone has if they can get nukes
 
2012-01-09 05:40:25 PM
The nuclear program of Iran was launched in the 1950s with the help of the United States as part of the Atoms for Peace program.
 
2012-01-09 05:50:49 PM
Iran is not a threat. Seriously- we have better things to do than worry about them.
 
2012-01-09 06:02:13 PM
Of COURSE the Iranians are building a nuke. Who cares? The nutjobs running Pakistan scare me a lot more than the Iranians, and they've got nukes galore.
 
2012-01-09 06:23:27 PM

FireBreathingLiberal: The nuclear program of Iran was launched in the 1950s with the help of the United States as part of the Atoms for Peace program.


Thanks, wikipedia.
 
2012-01-09 06:43:45 PM
I like how cagey the article is regarding widely known information:

Nuclear fuel enrichment is much different from enrichment for weapons. Most commercial nuclear reactors use lightly enriched uranium, which is between 3-5 percent enriched. Weapons-grade uranium must be enriched to approximately 85 percent or more of a key radioactive isotope for it to be usable in an atomic bomb.


Shh, don't tell anyone, but it's U-235.
 
2012-01-09 07:19:07 PM

Marcus Aurelius: Of COURSE the Iranians are building a nuke. Who cares? The nutjobs running Pakistan scare me a lot more than the Iranians, and they've got nukes galore.


Yes, but they have India as an enemy. who is willing to bomb the crap out of them on our behalf.
 
2012-01-09 07:31:04 PM
well let's go free them of it.
 
2012-01-09 07:33:29 PM
Was the obvious tag already in it's bunker?
 
2012-01-09 07:34:32 PM
This is one of those times when I feel like the thread would have made more sense if I hadn't read the article.
 
2012-01-09 07:35:01 PM

FlashHarry: wow, that's a shocker fission!

 
2012-01-09 07:35:11 PM
Why shouldn't Iran have nukes? Aren't they a sovereign nation?
 
2012-01-09 07:35:46 PM
Smart people are using hundred-year-old science to build things humans have known how to build for 60 years?
 
2012-01-09 07:42:28 PM

bighasbeen: FloydA: Next thing you know, he'll break the big secret that the Pope is Catholic.

What about the excretory practices of the family Ursidae?


I believe such practices typically occur in a woodland ecosystem.
 
2012-01-09 07:42:38 PM
They aren't developing nuclear weapons, but they are developing nuclear capability? WTF
 
2012-01-09 07:43:17 PM
I am shocked, SHOCKED, I say...

Recent history suggests that the active seeking to build such weapons are a sure way to end up in a war of conquest.

Look at North Korea. They made no bones about their intentions on developing nukes and were immediately invaded by a coalition of Chinese and American forces intent on defusing that nightmare before it could properly take hold. The rebuilding process has been rough, but thank god we avoided the horrific alternatives of feeding an insane dictatorship whatever it demanded even as its peoples starved to death.

Then we look at Iraq, where we verified that they had no nukes and have been quietly contained ever since.

Iran would be 'insane' to seek out nuclear weapons, right?
 
2012-01-09 07:44:10 PM
So Panetta admits that Iran's nuke program is toothless.

So this has all been a lie (again).

Yet under the NDAA we just launched crippling economic sanctions against Iran, who threatened to close the Strait of Hormuz, which inspired us to send our navy there to "kick some Iranian ass". Fuel prices have jumped $.20 here in the past week...

And all this is because Iran is NOT developing nuclear weapons?

So why are we doing this again?

i1121.photobucket.com

Oh. I see.

/Carry on then
//Iraq has WMD's
 
2012-01-09 07:44:32 PM
Yeah, and I'm not trying to make any explosives, I'm just working on making my own gunpowder...Sorry, but to make nuclear weapons, you need nuclear capability. So no, he didn't say that "Iran is not pursuing the ability to split atoms with weapons".

I'm not saying they are, or aren't. Like every other Farker, I don't know*. But, Panetta did not appear to say they weren't working towards weapons.

*I have a hard time believing they aren't. I know in their shoes, I would be.
 
2012-01-09 07:47:44 PM
Nucular. It's pronounced nuc-u-lar.

/obscure?
 
2012-01-09 07:48:21 PM
Thats nice.

And I'm sure they're smart enough to know that if they use them, they will suddenly cease to exist under a storm of nuclear fire, so I'm not worried about it.

No reason to kick the hornets nest over it.
 
2012-01-09 07:49:42 PM
You Obama Fans do realize that Obama knew this was bullshiat, right? Than he (and Congress) knowingly launched these sanctions on entirely false pretenses, right?

And you want to see this pack of hyenas reelected?

And what about Mittens? His chief complaint about Obama is that he hasn't bombed Iran already. Same goes for Santorum.

WTF, America? Who's running the insane asylum?
 
2012-01-09 07:51:57 PM
Did anyone read the article? It said Iran wasn't developing weapons, just nuclear power plants. If ya'll are going to comment, at least understand what you're saying.
 
2012-01-09 07:52:16 PM

Amos Quito: You Obama Fans do realize that Obama knew this was bullshiat, right? Than he (and Congress) knowingly launched these sanctions on entirely false pretenses, right?

And you want to see this pack of hyenas reelected?

And what about Mittens? His chief complaint about Obama is that he hasn't bombed Iran already. Same goes for Santorum.

WTF, America? Who's running the insane asylum?


the sanction are in response to Irans attempt to control key waterways not nuclear ambitions.
 
2012-01-09 07:53:44 PM
spot on a bout Mittens though, you know those conservative Republicans love to kill brown people.

well get American service men and women to do their dirty work anyways.
 
2012-01-09 07:54:06 PM

Lord_Baull: Did anyone read the article? It said Iran wasn't developing weapons, just nuclear power plants>. If ya'll are going to comment, at least understand what you're saying.



Welcome to Fark.

The scary part is that some of these Farkers actually vote!
 
2012-01-09 07:54:18 PM

apoptotic: This is one of those times when I feel like the thread would have made more sense if I hadn't read the article.


You aren't kidding.
 
2012-01-09 07:54:28 PM

Amos Quito: You Obama Fans do realize that Obama knew this was bullshiat, right? Than he (and Congress) knowingly launched these sanctions on entirely false pretenses, right?

And you want to see this pack of hyenas reelected?

And what about Mittens? His chief complaint about Obama is that he hasn't bombed Iran already. Same goes for Santorum.

WTF, America? Who's running the insane asylum?


RuPaul?
 
2012-01-09 07:56:34 PM
Remember if you want war with Iran remember to vote Republicans (yes I know not Ron Paul but he has no chance of winning). I believe almost the rest of the candidates have said they want to have a war with Iran.
 
2012-01-09 07:57:44 PM

Lord_Baull: Did anyone read the article? It said Iran wasn't developing weapons, just nuclear power plants. If ya'll are going to comment, at least understand what you're saying.


reedin is hard. souns an awfl lot like buk lernin
 
2012-01-09 07:59:06 PM

Amos Quito: You Obama Fans do realize that Obama knew this was bullshiat, right? Than he (and Congress) knowingly launched these sanctions on entirely false pretenses, right?

And you want to see this pack of hyenas reelected?

And what about Mittens? His chief complaint about Obama is that he hasn't bombed Iran already. Same goes for Santorum.

WTF, America? Who's running the insane asylum?


So we shouldn't be voting for the who launched the sanctions we should be voting for the people who want to start a war with Iran instead huh?

What false pretenses are you talking about?
 
2012-01-09 07:59:35 PM

Isitoveryet: Amos Quito: You Obama Fans do realize that Obama knew this was bullshiat, right? Than he (and Congress) knowingly launched these sanctions on entirely false pretenses, right?

And you want to see this pack of hyenas reelected?

And what about Mittens? His chief complaint about Obama is that he hasn't bombed Iran already. Same goes for Santorum.

WTF, America? Who's running the insane asylum?

the sanction are in response to Irans attempt to control key waterways not nuclear ambitions.



No.

No no no no NO.

The sanctions were put in place to pressure Iran into not building the nukes - the SAME nukes that Obama and Congress KNEW they weren't building.

Iran threatened to close the waterway in RETALIATION of the sanctions - which are strangling Iran economically.

Because unlike the nukes, the sanctions are REAL.

Obey and the Congress are trying to get us into another war to appease Israel. They lied about the nukes just like they lied about Saddam's WMD's.

Hope that helps.
 
2012-01-09 08:00:06 PM

Amos Quito: You Obama Fans do realize that Obama knew this was bullshiat, right? Than he (and Congress) knowingly launched these sanctions on entirely false pretenses, right?

And you want to see this pack of hyenas reelected?

And what about Mittens? His chief complaint about Obama is that he hasn't bombed Iran already. Same goes for Santorum.

WTF, America? Who's running the insane asylum?


Did you actually read the article? I feel you didn't.
 
2012-01-09 08:01:42 PM

Amos Quito: Isitoveryet: Amos Quito: You Obama Fans do realize that Obama knew this was bullshiat, right? Than he (and Congress) knowingly launched these sanctions on entirely false pretenses, right?

And you want to see this pack of hyenas reelected?

And what about Mittens? His chief complaint about Obama is that he hasn't bombed Iran already. Same goes for Santorum.

WTF, America? Who's running the insane asylum?

the sanction are in response to Irans attempt to control key waterways not nuclear ambitions.


No.

No no no no NO.

The sanctions were put in place to pressure Iran into not building the nukes - the SAME nukes that Obama and Congress KNEW they weren't building.

Iran threatened to close the waterway in RETALIATION of the sanctions - which are strangling Iran economically.

Because unlike the nukes, the sanctions are REAL.

Obey and the Congress are trying to get us into another war to appease Israel. They lied about the nukes just like they lied about Saddam's WMD's.

Hope that helps.


Are you seriously comparing the dead silence right now on Iran's nuclear capability to the thunderous din that was the run-up to Iraq?
 
2012-01-09 08:02:57 PM

Amos Quito: Obey and the Congress are trying to get us into another war to appease Israel. They lied about the nukes just like they lied about Saddam's WMD's.


What nukes? You keep saying thing Obama admin said that I never heard them actual saying. You are being very unspecific. Nukes as in power plants? or as in weapons? You know those aren't the same thing right?

Amos Quito: Obey and the Congress are trying to get us into another war to appease Israel. They lied about the nukes just like they lied about Saddam's WMD's.


Obama lied to us about Saddam WMDs? What brand of tinfoil do you use for you hat so that the government can't read your brain waves?
 
2012-01-09 08:03:56 PM

Wyalt Derp: Nucular. It's pronounced nuc-u-lar.

/obscure?


Look, Carter has been out of office for over 30 years, don't you think it's time to stop picking on him?
 
2012-01-09 08:05:27 PM
Amos Quito:

Obey and the Congress are trying to get us into another war to appease Israel. They lied about the nukes just like they lied about Saddam's WMD's.

Hope that helps.



ugh.

you win this time crazy but there's always tomorrow!
 
2012-01-09 08:05:52 PM

Amos Quito: Isitoveryet: Amos Quito: You Obama Fans do realize that Obama knew this was bullshiat, right? Than he (and Congress) knowingly launched these sanctions on entirely false pretenses, right?

And you want to see this pack of hyenas reelected?

And what about Mittens? His chief complaint about Obama is that he hasn't bombed Iran already. Same goes for Santorum.

WTF, America? Who's running the insane asylum?

the sanction are in response to Irans attempt to control key waterways not nuclear ambitions.


No.

No no no no NO.

The sanctions were put in place to pressure Iran into not building the nukes - the SAME nukes that Obama and Congress KNEW they weren't building.

Iran threatened to close the waterway in RETALIATION of the sanctions - which are strangling Iran economically.

Because unlike the nukes, the sanctions are REAL.

Obey and the Congress are trying to get us into another war to appease Israel. They lied about the nukes just like they lied about Saddam's WMD's.

Hope that helps.


Your posting style is really familiar.
 
2012-01-09 08:06:51 PM

Amos Quito: Obey and the Congress are trying to get us into another war to appease Israel. They lied about the nukes just like they lied about Saddam's WMD's.


t2.gstatic.com

Yes we all remember how Obama the biggest Israel appeaser in United States history took his time machine disguised himself like Bush and convenienced us to go to war with Iraq based on his lies. And he was brilliant because he knew that past time Obama would win the election by running against the Iraq war and telling everyone the lies which he created where lies of the Bush administration.

Brilliant!
 
2012-01-09 08:06:54 PM

Corvus: Amos Quito: You Obama Fans do realize that Obama knew this was bullshiat, right? Than he (and Congress) knowingly launched these sanctions on entirely false pretenses, right?

And you want to see this pack of hyenas reelected?

And what about Mittens? His chief complaint about Obama is that he hasn't bombed Iran already. Same goes for Santorum.

WTF, America? Who's running the insane asylum?

So we shouldn't be voting for the who launched the sanctions we should be voting for the people who want to start a war with Iran instead huh?


What false pretenses are you talking about?



ObeyCo said "Iran is building nukes"!

Iran said "nuh uh!"

ObeyCo said "Uh huh!" and told them if they didn't stop we'd kill them with sanctions.

Iran said "can't stop what we aren't doing!"

ObeyCo said "okay, you asked for it!" and hit them with the sanctions.

Now if you RTFA, you'll see Panetta admitting that Iran isn't doing what ObeyCo claimed they were doing.

SURPRISE!

Those "false pretenses".
 
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