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Kimothy [TotalFark]
2012-01-09 05:17:45 PM
They just found a way to cheat within the rules.

Once a cheater always a cheater.

//Flame on.
 
netweavr
2012-01-09 05:21:20 PM
Just the kind of play I've come to expect from Boston.
 
natural316
2012-01-09 05:38:56 PM
Ohjeeznotthisshiatagain.jpeg
 
Wadded Beef
2012-01-09 05:39:36 PM
The little shiat McDaniels dragged the Broncos' good name into Belichick's cheaty ways. Good riddance.
 
jekostas
2012-01-09 05:40:28 PM
Kimothy: They just found a way to cheat within the rules.

Once a cheater always a cheater.

//Flame on.

If you ain't cheatin' you ain't tryin'
 
The $25000 Dodecahedron
2012-01-09 05:41:08 PM
Wadded Beef: The little shiat McDaniels dragged the Broncos' good name into Belichick's cheaty ways. Good riddance.

As a Broncomaniac, wholeheartedly THIS. Screw McDaniels and the Patriots.
 
orange whip
2012-01-09 05:42:02 PM
The same mcdaniels that draftevTebow wadded Beef?
 
FiendishFellow05
2012-01-09 05:42:06 PM
Yeah, OK. Except for the teensy, tiny little fact that Josh McDaniels was the Patriot's OC BEFORE HE WENT TO DENVER. I doubt we're getting that big of a leg up from Josh "I got fired after one season and drafted Tebus" McDaniels. Try again, whineymitter.
 
Wadded Beef
2012-01-09 05:44:13 PM
The $25000 Dodecahedron: Wadded Beef: The little shiat McDaniels dragged the Broncos' good name into Belichick's cheaty ways. Good riddance.

As a Broncomaniac, wholeheartedly THIS. Screw McDaniels and the Patriots.

i280.photobucket.com
 
Tomfoolery Rules Over Logical Living
2012-01-09 05:44:40 PM
The $25000 Dodecahedron: Wadded Beef: The little shiat McDaniels dragged the Broncos' good name into Belichick's cheaty ways. Good riddance.

As a Broncomaniac, wholeheartedly THIS. Screw McDaniels and the Patriots.

Great point, it's not like McDaniels drafted Teebus and Thomas in the 1st round last year or anything. Completely set the Broncos up for years of failure, never to even see .500 let alone the post season.
 
The $25000 Dodecahedron
2012-01-09 05:48:20 PM
Tomfoolery Rules Over Logical Living: The $25000 Dodecahedron: Wadded Beef: The little shiat McDaniels dragged the Broncos' good name into Belichick's cheaty ways. Good riddance.

As a Broncomaniac, wholeheartedly THIS. Screw McDaniels and the Patriots.

Great point, it's not like McDaniels drafted Teebus and Thomas in the 1st round last year or anything. Completely set the Broncos up for years of failure, never to even see .500 let alone the post season.

Thomas has been totally injury prone since he was drafted; only recently has he begun to show what he's capable of. Tebow was drafted two rounds too high and, while I'm delighted with the results, is too inconsistent at this point to be a long-term, reliable starting QB. I hope offseason OTAs and practice will change this.

All of that, however, has nothing to do with the fact that McDaniels is an arrogant little cheating prick. He embarrassed the organization over and over again.
 
FarkinHostile
2012-01-09 05:48:21 PM
Well, I think Tebow Tebow Tebow, Tebow Tebow. Ocho Cinco Tebow, Tebow Tebow Tebow.

/Tebow
//Tebow Tebow
 
Wadded Beef
2012-01-09 05:48:46 PM
orange whip: The same mcdaniels that draftevTebow wadded Beef?

Cheating, above all else, washes away anything remotely competent. And, let's face it, the jury is still out on Tebow.
 
4NSpy
2012-01-09 05:50:48 PM
Go pats.

And not just because I hate the broncos, but I also have a future on the pats winning the afc from before the season.
 
4NSpy
2012-01-09 05:52:50 PM
This story is strictly something for the media to talk about this week. There is nothing more to this than the pats bringing back their former coach. The broncos have changed their game plan quite a bit with fox. What's josh going to say, "don't let tebow run"?
 
Theaetetus
2012-01-09 05:55:08 PM
I'm confused... I thought McDaniels got fired more than a year ago from Denver. Is this some new non-compete clause where if you work for a team, you can't ever work for another team?
 
Tomfoolery Rules Over Logical Living
2012-01-09 05:55:42 PM
GimpyNip: the Broncos won their Boobies season game in 6 or 7 years.

I thought it was Rabbit season.
 
Theaetetus
2012-01-09 05:55:45 PM
GimpyNip: Broncos won their Boobies season game

images.icanhascheezburger.com
 
natural316
2012-01-09 05:56:36 PM
I asked this in a previous thread but since this one is fresh and still getting posts I'll re-ask. Why out of every sports cheating scandal ever does this one drive people do batshiat nuts?

Please enlighten me
 
The $25000 Dodecahedron
2012-01-09 05:57:20 PM
GimpyNip: Considering Tebow was going to go in the second round, if the Broncos wanted him they had to draft him where they did. So far, the pick has been justified. He started most of the season, had a winning record, Denver won the division, and the Broncos won their Boobies season game in 6 or 7 years. Both picks have seemed to turn out pretty well do far. I think the real issue is that Broncos fans will never forgive him for trading Cutler

Either you just got FilterPWNED or my HDTV isn't picking up the right broadcasts, because Bronco games have been SORELY lacking in boobies all season.
 
Wadded Beef
2012-01-09 05:57:44 PM
GimpyNip: Considering Tebow was going to go in the second round, if the Broncos wanted him they had to draft him where they did. So far, the pick has been justified. He started most of the season, had a winning record, Denver won the division, and the Broncos won their Boobies season game in 6 or 7 years. Both picks have seemed to turn out pretty well do far. I think the real issue is that Broncos fans will never forgive him for trading Cutler

I don't think I've spoken to one Bronco fan who misses Cutler. The Peyton Hillis for Brady Quinn trade, which is like sending back a filet mignon in favor of a stale, half-empty box of Triscuits located next to a Roach Motel, is what irked quite a bit of us.
 
Tomfoolery Rules Over Logical Living
2012-01-09 05:58:09 PM
The $25000 Dodecahedron: Tomfoolery Rules Over Logical Living: The $25000 Dodecahedron: Wadded Beef: The little shiat McDaniels dragged the Broncos' good name into Belichick's cheaty ways. Good riddance.

As a Broncomaniac, wholeheartedly THIS. Screw McDaniels and the Patriots.

Great point, it's not like McDaniels drafted Teebus and Thomas in the 1st round last year or anything. Completely set the Broncos up for years of failure, never to even see .500 let alone the post season.

Thomas has been totally injury prone since he was drafted; only recently has he begun to show what he's capable of. Tebow was drafted two rounds too high and, while I'm delighted with the results, is too inconsistent at this point to be a long-term, reliable starting QB. I hope offseason OTAs and practice will change this.

All of that, however, has nothing to do with the fact that McDaniels is an arrogant little cheating prick. He embarrassed the organization over and over again.

Fair enough, that's a perfectly reasonable viewpoint. Granted, I'm a Pats fan and an admitted Belichick apologist so I don't agree with that view, but certainly very reasonable.
 
robsul82 [TotalFark]
2012-01-09 05:59:12 PM
Dude, should they kick Tebow's ass, it's not like the reaction from Belichick's going to be "whew, thank God we got Josh to give us the cheat codes."
 
buckeyebrain
2012-01-09 06:01:06 PM
Tomfoolery Rules Over Logical Living: I thought it was Rabbit season.

Duck season.
 
The $25000 Dodecahedron
2012-01-09 06:01:54 PM
Wadded Beef: GimpyNip: Considering Tebow was going to go in the second round, if the Broncos wanted him they had to draft him where they did. So far, the pick has been justified. He started most of the season, had a winning record, Denver won the division, and the Broncos won their Boobies season game in 6 or 7 years. Both picks have seemed to turn out pretty well do far. I think the real issue is that Broncos fans will never forgive him for trading Cutler

I don't think I've spoken to one Bronco fan who misses Cutler. The Peyton Hillis for Brady Quinn trade, which is like sending back a filet mignon in favor of a stale, half-empty box of Triscuits located next to a Roach Motel, is what irked quite a bit of us.

Trading a first round pick to take a medicore Robert Ayers in the second pissed me off, personally. I was completely on board with shipping Cutler out of town.
 
The $25000 Dodecahedron
2012-01-09 06:04:39 PM
GimpyNip: Because the Pats won 3 Superbowls and people were already annoyed by the tuck rule game and then that just threw them over the edge. Plus, Pats fans started annoying everyone with their talk of being a dynasty and how awesome Brady & the Hoodie are. If the Packers win 3 Superbowls in 4 years people will run with any reason to hate them as well. That's how it works.

This. I've always disliked the Dallas Cowboys, but when they won three Super Bowls in four years, I began to LOATHE them. It didn't help they had two of my least favorite players of all time (Irvin and Sanders).
 
keylock71 [TotalFark]
2012-01-09 06:06:38 PM
Eh, whatever...

Go Patriots!
 
Allen262
2012-01-09 06:07:29 PM
GimpyNip: Not sure I get how Bronco fans can love Tebow & Thomas yet hate McDaniels.

It's not hard. He pissed off Cutler than traded him for a lesser QB in Neckbeard. Pissed off other players that ended up being traded. Drafted a QB that every one said won't make it in the NFL, Tebow. Drove the team into the ground and left it in pieces.

It is luck that Denver made it this far. Elway was/is doing is best to pull a "Major League" so he can blow the whole team up and start new but the fans and Tebow wanted no part in that.
 
natural316
2012-01-09 06:10:14 PM
GimpyNip: natural316: I asked this in a previous thread but since this one is fresh and still getting posts I'll re-ask. Why out of every sports cheating scandal ever does this one drive people do batshiat nuts?

Please enlighten me

Because the Pats won 3 Superbowls and people were already annoyed by the tuck rule game and then that just threw them over the edge. Plus, Pats fans started annoying everyone with their talk of being a dynasty and how awesome Brady & the Hoodie are. If the Packers win 3 Superbowls in 4 years people will run with any reason to hate them as well. That's how it works.

/hate the Pats but didn't think SpyGate was a huge deal

That's an honest answer and I admire you for it.
 
litespeed74
2012-01-09 06:14:10 PM
Mcdaniels seriously? He calls games like he's on Madden '11.
4th and 4 at our own 25?
Double end around!!!!!
 
IAmRight [TotalFark]
2012-01-09 06:16:24 PM
Wadded Beef: The Peyton Hillis for Brady Quinn trade, which is like sending back a filet mignon in favor of a stale, half-empty box of Triscuits located next to a Roach Motel, is what irked quite a bit of us.

Peyton Hillis is overrated, too. I mean, Quinn wasn't worth getting, but I think we can stop acting as though Hillis is one of the top backs in the league.

He got the Madden cover because he is a white RB and only because he's a white RB. 11th in the league in rushing and 6th in overall yardage is great, but not "ZOMG". It was kind of a Derek Anderson-esque "somehow seem awesome for a year" thing. Not a good deal, but not worth hating over.

/only acceptable reason is being upset about Spygate II, but that's all dumb anyway
 
AnEvilGuest
2012-01-09 06:18:36 PM
natural316: I asked this in a previous thread but since this one is fresh and still getting posts I'll re-ask. Why out of every sports cheating scandal ever does this one drive people do batshiat nuts?

Please enlighten me


Pats have won more than everybody else and their coach has an obvious contempt for the sports media cliche fest.
It's a recipe for resentment.

No one cares about the Jets tampering with Parcells during the superbowl or the huge competitive advantage the tams that cheated the cap system got because none of them have had anything remotely like the Patriots level of success over the last decade

The 2007 season started with the Patriots absolutely destroying teams right after the story broke and coming a single play from 19-0
The crybaby contingent will never recover from that until the Pats have losing records for many seasons and and a new House Lannister is crowned.
 
skinink
2012-01-09 06:19:20 PM
What a match up, Jesus Tebow vs. Darth Hoodie. If the Denver/Pitt game got big ratings, then this game should be the biggest game of the playoffs.

The Pats won't underestimate Tebow. It was McDaniels who drafted him, and Belichick even had a meeting with Tebow. Plus Brady even said he and Tebow would meet again soon.
 
natural316
2012-01-09 06:20:21 PM
I also feel that sports fans don't really care as much about spy gate as they really just have a justified reason to hate the Pats. I find it very doubtful that all of a sudden the fan world got a huge attack of morals
 
Pratty
2012-01-09 06:26:26 PM
Don't see much of a problem with this.

Kind of find it amusing...McDaniels personnel moves were hated, but Hillis flamed out, Cutler/Orton might work out, Tebow could be good, first playoff win in how long with Tebow to Thomas?
 
IAmRight [TotalFark]
2012-01-09 06:27:47 PM
GimpyNip: I can see how Hillis for Quinn can sting but this year Hillis was injured and complained about his contract. I don't know if he was a pain in the ass with the Broncos though.

Nah, he just never did much in two years.

Allen262: It's not hard. He pissed off Cutler than traded him for a lesser QB in Neckbeard. Pissed off other players that ended up being traded. Drafted a QB that every one said won't make it in the NFL, Tebow. Drove the team into the ground and left it in pieces.

He tried to get Cassel, who was pretty good with the Patriots and with the Chiefs. Cutler, a quarterback who was traded up for in order to replace a Pro Bowler the previous year, then gets buttmad about the very IDEA that he be replaced after "earning" a trip to the Pro Bowl the previous year. Since Cutler, the buttmad little diva, couldn't be bothered to respond to anyone within the organization after they tried to reach him, including the owner himself, they got rid of him for a QB that performed about as well as Cutler did in 2010, AND picked up two first-round draft picks.

The other player that was supposedly upset was Brandon Marshall, who had committed multiple crimes and had no chance of getting a long-term contract given that he would be suspended for a long time following his next run-in with the law. He went to the Dolphins, who offered crazy money AND several years. Marshall's departure has nothing to do with McDaniels, but idiots ascribe it to him anyway.

The reason they went from mediocre to awful is largely due to the injuries to Thomas (who was supposed to replace Marshall in body size and ability) and Dumervil (who was the Broncos' entire pass rush). Going full sh*tty enabled them to get Von Miller.

Basically, the McDaniels era set everything in motion for the recovery from the final few years of Shanahan's mediocre tenure and always just trying to patch holes in a sinking ship. But then he doesn't get any of the credit for the players he got making the turnaround. It's stupid.

BTW, Tebow has already produced more Ws than any of the other QBs from that draft, including No. 1 overall Sam Bradford.
 
Zoomaster
2012-01-09 06:35:32 PM
They just fished the body of the Packers offensive coordinators son out of the river. New York will do anything to win.

/rip
 
bingethinker [TotalFark]
2012-01-09 06:37:40 PM
The Broncos have changed their offense TWICE since McDaniels was there. Once at the beginning of the season, and again when they had to alter it to suit Tebow. How is anything McDaniels knows going to be helpful?
 
netweavr
2012-01-09 06:40:58 PM
GimpyNip: I think they'll probably use a safety and keep Tebow from going left unlike some other playoff teams...

F*cking thank you. I've been saying this about Tebow for weeks. He's a White Michael Vick. Play him like Vick and he'll be neutralized. Move him to his weak side and stop giving him five seconds every down.

GimpyNip: Didn't Brandon Marshall have to leave Denver because he pissed off a Crip on New Years that ended up getting his teammate shot?

Also, lately the Broncos seem fine with trading any WR that plays well. Marshall, Llyodd, Thomas better watch out. If he has a 1200 yard season he is toast!

Marshall might be headed to Chicago. Apparently Cutler's been flirting with him on Twitter or some crap, asking him to sign up.
 
myinternetname
2012-01-09 06:46:13 PM
Let me guess, subby is one of those people on Yahoo! sports that comments witty things like "Cheatriots" and "Bill Billicheat" on EVERY SINGLE FARKING Patriots article?
 
Wadded Beef
2012-01-09 06:49:13 PM
IAmRight: Wadded Beef: The Peyton Hillis for Brady Quinn trade, which is like sending back a filet mignon in favor of a stale, half-empty box of Triscuits located next to a Roach Motel, is what irked quite a bit of us.

Peyton Hillis is overrated, too. I mean, Quinn wasn't worth getting, but I think we can stop acting as though Hillis is one of the top backs in the league.

He got the Madden cover because he is a white RB and only because he's a white RB. 11th in the league in rushing and 6th in overall yardage is great, but not "ZOMG". It was kind of a Derek Anderson-esque "somehow seem awesome for a year" thing. Not a good deal, but not worth hating over.

/only acceptable reason is being upset about Spygate II, but that's all dumb anyway

I dunno, I couldn't care less about the Madden cover or if he's white, just that he was our best RB and we had to go out and waste a pick on No-show Moreno to replace him when Orakpo was sitting RIGHT THERE for the taking. That said, I'm happy with Von Miller so, if Orakpo did well for the Broncos then maybe they wouldn't have drafted Von.

Apart from the cheating scandal, which was reason enough to despise/fire McDaniels, we all witnessed the team quitting on him. I'm led to believe McD has emotional swings that gave the locker room whiplash. Not going to cut it.
 
AnEvilGuest
2012-01-09 06:50:13 PM
Zoomaster: They just fished the body of the Packers offensive coordinators son out of the river. New York will do anything to win.

/rip


That's a damn shame, we take these silly contests so seriously and then some poor bastard is burying his kid with the playoffs suddenly not so important after all
 
IAmRight [TotalFark]
2012-01-09 06:52:34 PM
Wadded Beef: I dunno, I couldn't care less about the Madden cover or if he's white, just that he was our best RB and we had to go out and waste a pick on No-show Moreno to replace him when Orakpo was sitting RIGHT THERE for the taking.

Moreno was an absolute beast in college with no indication of injury problems. As much as he probably doesn't deserve the credit some of us are giving him for Tebow, he doesn't deserve the hate for the Moreno pick. It was a good pick at the time.
 
Pratty
2012-01-09 06:53:45 PM
IAmRight: Wadded Beef: I dunno, I couldn't care less about the Madden cover or if he's white, just that he was our best RB and we had to go out and waste a pick on No-show Moreno to replace him when Orakpo was sitting RIGHT THERE for the taking.

Moreno was an absolute beast in college with no indication of injury problems. As much as he probably doesn't deserve the credit some of us are giving him for Tebow, he doesn't deserve the hate for the Moreno pick. It was a good pick at the time.

Agreed with this.

Moreno does suck ATM though and I truly hope they get another RB to go over him.
 
AnEvilGuest
2012-01-09 06:53:50 PM
myinternetname: Let me guess, subby is one of those people on Yahoo! sports that comments witty things like "Cheatriots" and "Bill Billicheat" on EVERY SINGLE FARKING Patriots article?

I love that, I'm only worried about the post Brady era when ( probably) the jealousy fades and I'm the one struggling to handle bitterness and defeat.

It will be a sad day when the Patriots can't squeeze tears from crybabies any more
 
natural316
2012-01-09 06:57:59 PM
AnEvilGuest: myinternetname: Let me guess, subby is one of those people on Yahoo! sports that comments witty things like "Cheatriots" and "Bill Billicheat" on EVERY SINGLE FARKING Patriots article?

I love that, I'm only worried about the post Brady era when ( probably) the jealousy fades and I'm the one struggling to handle bitterness and defeat.

It will be a sad day when the Patriots can't squeeze tears from crybabies any more

Same here. We're bandwagon, irritating fans now but when the losing seasons inevitably begin those same people who question our fanhood will be first in line to bust our balls.
 
IAmRight [TotalFark]
2012-01-09 07:02:46 PM
AnEvilGuest: I love that, I'm only worried about the post Brady era when ( probably) the jealousy fades and I'm the one struggling to handle bitterness and defeat.

Mallett is supposedly one of the steals of the '11 draft if he keeps his head on right.
 
overfienduglar
2012-01-09 07:24:30 PM
IAmRight: AnEvilGuest: I love that, I'm only worried about the post Brady era when ( probably) the jealousy fades and I'm the one struggling to handle bitterness and defeat.

Mallett is supposedly one of the steals of the '11 draft if he keeps his head on right.

Mallet is trade bait.
 
merkey88
2012-01-09 07:27:48 PM
GimpyNip: Not sure I get how Bronco fans can love Tebow & Thomas yet hate McDaniels.

Obvious troll, but one of those guys likes to talk like he is the greatest.
 
AnEvilGuest
2012-01-09 07:29:12 PM
natural316: AnEvilGuest: myinternetname: Let me guess, subby is one of those people on Yahoo! sports that comments witty things like "Cheatriots" and "Bill Billicheat" on EVERY SINGLE FARKING Patriots article?

I love that, I'm only worried about the post Brady era when ( probably) the jealousy fades and I'm the one struggling to handle bitterness and defeat.

It will be a sad day when the Patriots can't squeeze tears from crybabies any more

Same here. We're bandwagon, irritating fans now but when the losing seasons inevitably begin those same people who question our fanhood will be first in line to bust our balls.

I think I would be able to take it, I watched every game Rod Rust coached and I didn't have my "3 games to glory" DVDs to comfort me then ;)
 
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