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(Some Guy) Followup In response to Georgia plan to drug-test welfare recipients, state lawmaker submits bill to require drug testing for state legislators. Hilarity ensues   (onlineathens.com) divider line 483
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2012-01-09 10:19:49 AM
As a Georgia voter, I will be writing my lawmakers to push for passage of this bill, and lobby for stopping the paychecks of those who fail.

What is good for the goose...
 
2012-01-09 10:21:33 AM
Politicians don't like to be held to the same standards as normal citizens. Film at 11.
 
2012-01-09 10:26:11 AM
If the standard is "Test all recipients of tax dollars" then why SHOULD lawmakers be exempt?
 
2012-01-09 10:33:21 AM
Mr. Coffee Nerves: If the standard is "Test all recipients of tax dollars" then why SHOULD lawmakers be exempt?

FTA: That language becomes a bit problematic, though, in the context of House Bill 677, because the state legislature is exempt from the requirements of the state's open records laws.


Because they said so
 
2012-01-09 10:35:33 AM
Hold legislators accountable? Ha ha ha. Good one!
 
2012-01-09 10:40:41 AM
gwydion56: As a Georgia voter, I will be writing my lawmakers to push for passage of this bill, and lobby for stopping the paychecks of those who fail.

What is good for the goose...


Watch, they'll pass the bill, and not exempt themselves from disclosure, and only report the results to themselves. Thus achieving the goal of doing something useful and making it totally useless.
 
2012-01-09 11:34:48 AM
Mr. Coffee Nerves: If the standard is "Test all recipients of tax dollars" then why SHOULD lawmakers be exempt?

I'm all for it. If you're going to receive money from the government (which is our tax dollars) you should be able to pass a drug test.

Then again, I'm for the legalization of drugs so that creates quite a quandry. To me so long as you don't come to work under the influence, it shouldn't matter. Then again, some drugs stay active in your system for 24 hours...
 
2012-01-09 11:35:49 AM
Mandating drug tests to catch the 4-5 people who are actually using drugs = Cool!

Mandating vaccines to eradicate diseases and possibly save lives = Socialism!
 
2012-01-09 12:11:03 PM
You have fun with that.
 
2012-01-09 12:20:05 PM
I fully support mandatory drug testing of legislators. they should also wear one of those ankle monitoring bracelets we put on criminals. hey - they're important people, right? we need to know where they are at all times in case of terrorism or something.
 
2012-01-09 12:22:38 PM
I think I'd be happier if legislators were IQ tested before being sworn in
 
2012-01-09 12:31:24 PM
MaudlinMutantMollusk: I think I'd be happier if legislators were IQ tested before being sworn in

Why bother? We already know the results would come back negative.
 
2012-01-09 12:37:43 PM
slayer199: Mr. Coffee Nerves: If the standard is "Test all recipients of tax dollars" then why SHOULD lawmakers be exempt?

I'm all for it. If you're going to receive money from the government (which is our tax dollars) you should be able to pass a drug test.

Then again, I'm for the legalization of drugs so that creates quite a quandry. To me so long as you don't come to work under the influence, it shouldn't matter. Then again, some drugs stay active in your system for 24 hours...


Your condition still works. If you're going to do the sort of thing that stays in your system for that long, make sure to take it far enough in advance that you don't come to work farked up. Like not going out drinking until 4am on a work night.
 
2012-01-09 12:48:47 PM
incendi: MaudlinMutantMollusk: I think I'd be happier if legislators were IQ tested before being sworn in

Why bother? We already know the results would come back negative.


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2012-01-09 12:49:35 PM
Mr. Coffee Nerves: If the standard is "Test all recipients of tax dollars" then why SHOULD lawmakers be exempt?

Ask Rick Scott. I'm sure he was some whargarbl for that.
 
2012-01-09 12:49:55 PM
Jack Black 62: Just end all forms of welfare and we won't have these problems.

We can start with ending corporate welfare as a test case. If that goes well we can move on to eliminating other forms of welfare.
 
2012-01-09 12:50:16 PM
Jack Black 62: Just end all forms of welfare and we won't have these problems.

Exactly. We'll have a whole slate of new, more interesting problems.
 
2012-01-09 12:50:28 PM
Where's the farking hero tag?!
 
2012-01-09 12:51:18 PM
gwydion56: As a Georgia voter, I will be writing my lawmakers to push for passage of this bill, and lobby for stopping the paychecks of those who fail.

What is good for the goose...


This makes two of us, then. I would have loved to see the results from McKinney.
 
2012-01-09 12:54:51 PM
I forget what the exact figures were but I think rick scott might regret pushing it through. I believe it the cost was quite a few million to implement and the results showed that almost none of the recipients were on drugs.

On another level, it seems as though it is really mean spirited. You are poor? You want some money? Get on your knees and beg for it!!! Down I say!! Lower!!! Prostrate yourself before me and lick the floor!!!
 
2012-01-09 12:54:59 PM
I'm all for drug testing. Which one do I get to test first?
 
2012-01-09 12:55:03 PM
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2012-01-09 12:55:08 PM
I have been told that one of the problems with legalizing the use of marijuana is that at the moment they only have to prove use. If it becomes legal they would have to prove intoxication. Remember, there is a legal limit for alcohol. They would have to come up with some arbitrary (and demonstrable) value to say that you were impaired. Pot may be detectable in your system for quite a while even though you are by no means intoxicted or impaired. What fun we will have.
 
2012-01-09 12:55:08 PM
These drug testing for welfare programs have been shown to cost more than they save and only serve to increase the size and scope of already bloated government programs.

But hey, it makes us feel good so let's do it anyway.
 
2012-01-09 12:55:46 PM
Think of all the people you know who never touched drugs. Now, think of them as the ones in complete control of government.

Douches ruling the world.
 
2012-01-09 12:55:57 PM
whyRpeoplesostupid: Mr. Coffee Nerves: If the standard is "Test all recipients of tax dollars" then why SHOULD lawmakers be exempt?

FTA: That language becomes a bit problematic, though, in the context of House Bill 677, because the state legislature is exempt from the requirements of the state's open records laws.


Because they said so


To that I would like to add:

Because what are you going to do about it?

Seriously though. They said so. No one is going to actually do anything about it, they'll still get voted back in, therefore legislators get to be exempt and do whatever they want.

I'm not saying vote for the other political party. I'm saying vote in your own primary and vote out the douchebags who pull this stuff.
 
2012-01-09 12:56:16 PM
Why does noone ever point out that urinalysis is for the most part only useful in testing for THC? Most of the other actually dangerous drugs are out of your system within a few days while THC can stick around for a month or more.
 
2012-01-09 12:56:23 PM
Jack Black 62: Just end all forms of welfare and we won't have these problems.

If we just shoot all the poor people there won't be any poor!!
 
2012-01-09 12:56:51 PM
I always wonder how the "drug test em!" crowd squares that view with their deeply held belief that Government needs to be smaller, stay out of our private lives and will just screw up anyway.

Build a huge layer of government bullshiat to regularly drug test a bunch of people at great expense, that will inevitably be done poorly/wrong, all in the name of saving money? Brilliant!

/I get this feeling these people have no concept of just how many Americans are drawing on these social programs
 
2012-01-09 12:57:35 PM
Jack Black 62: jayhawk88: Jack Black 62: Just end all forms of welfare and we won't have these problems.

Exactly. We'll have a whole slate of new, more interesting problems.

What people working for a change or dying off?


Welcome to the first world: Sentence a huge group of people to death by starvation to spite the small percentage who game the system.
 
2012-01-09 12:57:47 PM
Mr. Coffee Nerves: If the standard is "Test all recipients of tax dollars" then why SHOULD lawmakers be exempt?

I'm curious to see which Farkers come out against this idea.
 
2012-01-09 12:57:48 PM
Mr. Coffee Nerves: If the standard is "Test all recipients of tax dollars" then why SHOULD lawmakers be exempt?

Let's drug test anyone who is under protection of the U.S. military. That'll show 'em.
 
2012-01-09 12:59:06 PM
I think an important thing for trying to bring sanity to politics is to always remember that they work for (and are supposed to represent) us. We should be able to hold them to the same scrutiny as any employer can do to their employees. Drug tests, performance reviews, conflict of interest transparency, etc.

// I know it is an idealistic dream, but it really has to be consciously embodied ... as soon as a politician thinks that they are somehow ruling us, they need to get kicked to the curb.
 
2012-01-09 12:59:18 PM
Jack Black 62: jayhawk88: Jack Black 62: Just end all forms of welfare and we won't have these problems.

Exactly. We'll have a whole slate of new, more interesting problems.

What people working for a change or dying off?


Children starving to death is FREEDOOOOOOOOM!
 
2012-01-09 12:59:28 PM
You have the right to food money
As long as you don't mind a little
Investigation.
Humiliation.
And it has been suggested in some quarters
REHABILITATION!
 
2012-01-09 01:01:14 PM
I see Jack Black is in here with his normal derpitude. I mean I have a hangnail on the end of my thumb so I better cut my whole hand off to fix the problem.
 
2012-01-09 01:01:40 PM
Jack Black 62: Or, you could be nice and support them through charity.

That'll never work. Since I'm too busy buying iPads and fancy coffee, I don't donate, therefore I will vote for people who promise to take more money in taxes from others.
 
2012-01-09 01:02:04 PM
Drug test every worthless ass politician in Georgia. Once a month. Once a week. Oh, and reduce their pay to minimum wage. And strip any/all benefits they have.
 
2012-01-09 01:02:13 PM
Jack Black 62: Philip Francis Queeg: Jack Black 62: jayhawk88: Jack Black 62: Just end all forms of welfare and we won't have these problems.

Exactly. We'll have a whole slate of new, more interesting problems.

What people working for a change or dying off?

Children starving to death is FREEDOOOOOOOOM!

Or, you could help them by being charitable.


Or we can all help them by acting like a First World nation.
 
2012-01-09 01:02:16 PM
Capital punishment for corrupt politicians.
 
2012-01-09 01:03:01 PM
Jack Black 62: Philip Francis Queeg: Jack Black 62: jayhawk88: Jack Black 62: Just end all forms of welfare and we won't have these problems.

Exactly. We'll have a whole slate of new, more interesting problems.

What people working for a change or dying off?

Children starving to death is FREEDOOOOOOOOM!

Or, you could help them by being charitable.


But then we wouldn't see the benefits of letting them die off since they aren't working, now would we?
 
2012-01-09 01:03:10 PM
altinos: Jack Black 62: Or, you could be nice and support them through charity.

That'll never work. Since I'm too busy buying iPads and fancy coffee, I don't donate, therefore I will vote for people who promise to take more money in taxes from others.


Ah, the old "liberals are exempt from taxes" gambit. That's surely not transparently retarded.
 
2012-01-09 01:03:14 PM
What kind of drugs will they be looking for? Wasn't this all started in Florida? The #1 pill popping state in the nation? This is a bad idea all around.
 
2012-01-09 01:03:19 PM
I agree to both.
 
2012-01-09 01:03:52 PM
PsyLord: Ask Rick Scott. I'm sure he was some whargarbl for that.

Oh, no, it's very simple. There are only about 200-300 legislators, while there are millions of people on welfare. Asking all those welfare people to pay for drug testing makes a whole lot more profit for Rick Scott's healthcare money laundering service providers than just the legislators.
 
2012-01-09 01:04:39 PM
Jack Black 62: LasersHurt: Jack Black 62: Philip Francis Queeg: Jack Black 62: jayhawk88: Jack Black 62: Just end all forms of welfare and we won't have these problems.

Exactly. We'll have a whole slate of new, more interesting problems.

What people working for a change or dying off?

Children starving to death is FREEDOOOOOOOOM!

Or, you could help them by being charitable.

Or we can all help them by acting like a First World nation.

By stealing wealth from the productive?


So you're going with the same "liberals are exempt from taxes" gambit? Risky.
 
2012-01-09 01:04:49 PM
Well, bless his satiric little soul!

Mass drug tests are intrusive without being effective. As a general rule, laws should not impose a heavy burden on the innocent and should not fail to efficiently and effectively impose a cost on the guilty due to lack of enforceability. I'd sooner see some of the guilty escape than everybody rounded up and treated like cattle. Some law-and-order types are just the opposite.

Cattle, by the way, are very likely NOT drug-tested en masse thanks to the laissez-faire, laissez-passer zeal of the cattle, packing, and agro-industrial industries.
 
2012-01-09 01:04:55 PM
Jack Black 62: Philip Francis Queeg: Jack Black 62: jayhawk88: Jack Black 62: Just end all forms of welfare and we won't have these problems.

Exactly. We'll have a whole slate of new, more interesting problems.

What people working for a change or dying off?

Children starving to death is FREEDOOOOOOOOM!

Or, you could help them by being charitable.


Conservatives tell us that just teaches them to rely on charity.
 
2012-01-09 01:04:56 PM
As long as the Federal Government wants to perpetuate this farcical war on drugs, all recipients of taxpayer funding should be drug tested and prosecuted with extreme prejudice for violations. That's all cops, all elected officials, all entitlements recipients (including farmers who get subsidies), all government drug testers, the VA, and so on. Basically the entire public sector.
 
2012-01-09 01:05:24 PM
I guess presumed innocence and that thing in the Constitution about self-incrimination are just outdated concepts...
 
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