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(MSNBC) Interesting Smart cooktop knows where your pot is. And I say that cooktop is a little too smart for its own good, and better keep its damn mouth shut if it knows what's good for it   (gadgetbox.msnbc.msn.com) divider line 23
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2012-01-09 11:27:52 AM
But my name's not Cooktop...
 
2012-01-09 11:28:08 AM
+1 Subby, would chuckle again.
 
2012-01-09 11:39:46 AM
Just feeling trollish so...

Aren't the women supposed to know where the pots are anyways? Who needs a smart cooktop, get a wife.
 
2012-01-09 11:50:09 AM
...and headline win.
 
2012-01-09 11:57:22 AM
Hidden in the stove so no one knows I haven't done the dishes?
 
2012-01-09 12:13:56 PM
So you don't have an empty burner (cool space) to put the pot on so it can cool? And you can't lay a metal utensil on it without it heating up, too? Hmm, third degree burns very possible. Hope the cooktop's smart enough to hire a lawyer for itself.
 
2012-01-09 12:33:47 PM
WordyGrrl: So you don't have an empty burner (cool space) to put the pot on so it can cool?

Induction cooktops are pretty awesome. The cooktop itself doesn't get hot, just slightly warm at most.

They work by magnets.

[insane clown posse.jpg]
 
2012-01-09 12:50:45 PM
Tax Boy: WordyGrrl: So you don't have an empty burner (cool space) to put the pot on so it can cool?

Induction cooktops are pretty awesome. The cooktop itself doesn't get hot, just slightly warm at most.

They work by magnets.

[insane clown posse.jpg]


You didn't rtfa did you? The cooktop is "smart" it knows if you pick up the pot and move it and will continue cooking it no matter where you place it on the top. I guess you would need to use the touchscreen to have the top forget that pan. But for $5000 you could get a much nicer stove without the gimmick.
 
2012-01-09 12:51:26 PM
WordyGrrl: So you don't have an empty burner (cool space) to put the pot on so it can cool? And you can't lay a metal utensil on it without it heating up, too? Hmm, third degree burns very possible. Hope the cooktop's smart enough to hire a lawyer for itself.

It's an induction cooktop - very little heat left in the ceramic when you remove a pot from the surface. I've wanted even a single-burner induction cooker for my apartment for the longest time - very efficient heating.

/love kitchen gadgets
//started my kitchen knife collection first
 
2012-01-09 01:03:45 PM
For the people that didn't read the article:

The cooktop has a memory in it that will know when you move your pot anywhere on top of the range. So unless you tell the range to "forget" the pot it will always be cooking the pot. They never mention anything about "forgetting" of a pot but i'm sure the feature is there or you would burn everything that you plan on cooking.
 
2012-01-09 01:26:20 PM
WordyGrrl: So you don't have an empty burner (cool space) to put the pot on so it can cool?

Just move it to your slate or granite counter top, which you also have if you're buying one of these ranges.
 
2012-01-09 01:30:39 PM
Unknown Hinson approves of this headline.
 
2012-01-09 01:50:49 PM
TNel: Tax Boy: WordyGrrl: So you don't have an empty burner (cool space) to put the pot on so it can cool?

Induction cooktops are pretty awesome. The cooktop itself doesn't get hot, just slightly warm at most.

They work by magnets.

[insane clown posse.jpg]

You didn't rtfa did you? The cooktop is "smart" it knows if you pick up the pot and move it and will continue cooking it no matter where you place it on the top. I guess you would need to use the touchscreen to have the top forget that pan. But for $5000 you could get a much nicer stove without the gimmick.


Presumably, if you're interested in not having that pot cook any more, you're turning the "virtual" burner off before moving the pot.

One generally turns a burner off before moving that pot to another burner to cool off. I guess there are exceptions for those morans who keep a gas or electric burner going at full blast without a pot on it, or as they are commonly referred to as: "people with singed arm hair residing in smoking shells of burned down houses" .
 
2012-01-09 02:13:35 PM
Used to be involved in selling these in the US about 4-5 years ago, nothing new, the difference being is this one is smarter. Most of the current induction cooktops have the circles where you place the pots still, but as the article mentions, your pots have to have a lot of iron in the metal to form the magnetic field.

I can pick the pot up, stick my hand immediately on the "burner" and its cool to touch. As a demo we used to put a thin towel under it and the pot on top and it'd start boiling water, the towel being fine.

For your stirring spoons... if its wood, plastic or aluminum (or ceramic for that matter) it won't heat up, it reacts to iron and magnetic metals and only if its right on the glass surface.
 
2012-01-09 02:31:16 PM
But if it says "How doddly do!" every morning I'm smashing it with a lump hammer
 
2012-01-09 02:32:02 PM
WordyGrrl: So you don't have an empty burner (cool space) to put the pot on so it can cool? And you can't lay a metal utensil on it without it heating up, too? Hmm, third degree burns very possible. Hope the cooktop's smart enough to hire a lawyer for itself.

You can put a metal utensil on it, just don't assign the metal spoon a temperature.

Do you think it works by heating anything you place on it some arbitrary temperature with no user input whatsoever?
 
2012-01-09 03:30:49 PM
I have an induction cooktop ((GE) and love it. I paid close to 2 thou 3 years ago and it is worth every penny. I can't envision any real benefit to this new model except if you need to use very large pots that overflow the standard burner circles.
 
2012-01-09 04:12:54 PM
dodecahedron: I have an induction cooktop ((GE) and love it. I paid close to 2 thou 3 years ago and it is worth every penny. I can't envision any real benefit to this new model except if you need to use very large pots that overflow the standard burner circles.

... or if you want to use more than 4 small pots at the same time. Or 2 medium pots and one large rectangular or oval pan.
 
2012-01-09 05:02:49 PM
Theaetetus: dodecahedron: I have an induction cooktop ((GE) and love it. I paid close to 2 thou 3 years ago and it is worth every penny. I can't envision any real benefit to this new model except if you need to use very large pots that overflow the standard burner circles.

... or if you want to use more than 4 small pots at the same time. Or 2 medium pots and one large rectangular or oval pan.


That's true, though I rarely need to do anything like that. I know mine is limited to two pots at the highest settings at one time, so maybe this has more power if it's needed. Which kind of fits the headline if the new cooktop can help you get higher.

There's no natural gas available where I live and conversion to propane would cost quite a bit in my home. So the induction was a great deal which gives me much of the control and power I had with gas.

Instead of a traditional stove, I bought a couple of portable induction burners for use in one of my vacation rental houses with a really small kitchen, which I made to be modular. Frigidaire makes the burners and they're very reasonable, under $200 each.
 
2012-01-09 05:04:05 PM
TNel: For the people that didn't read the article:

The cooktop has a memory in it that will know when you move your pot anywhere on top of the range. So unless you tell the range to "forget" the pot it will always be cooking the pot. They never mention anything about "forgetting" of a pot but I'm sure the feature is there or you would burn everything that you plan on cooking.


You don't make the stove "forget". In essense, the "burner" simply follows the pot around the surface, and you can turn off that particular "burner".
 
2012-01-09 11:08:48 PM
 
2012-01-10 08:48:14 AM
KellyX: I can pick the pot up, stick my hand immediately on the "burner" and its cool to touch.

How does that work? The surface doesn't retain heat conducted from the hot pan into the surface? Shouldn't even the radiant heat heat up the surface? Is it made of asbestos or something?
 
2012-01-10 12:31:03 PM
manimal2878: KellyX: I can pick the pot up, stick my hand immediately on the "burner" and its cool to touch.

How does that work? The surface doesn't retain heat conducted from the hot pan into the surface? Shouldn't even the radiant heat heat up the surface? Is it made of asbestos or something?


When I say it's cool to touch, it does get a tiny bit of heat, but the surface material is designed not to conduct heat, so the amount of heat is so minimum that you'd notice the difference, but i could boil water and immediately pick it up and put my hand on the surface and it wouldn't be anywhere near the heat to hurt you, more like sunlight on a surface... just slightly warmed up, so "cool to the touch" as they put it.

I think the surface is a glass ceramic... I'm not a engineer, so I can't explain how the magnet (how the fark do they work??? ;) transfers the heat directly into the pot, but it works.

I'd highly recommend going to a kitchen appliance store that showcases stuff like that and demos it, and see if they sell induction cooktops, they're amazing to see and use.

If I had the money, I'd get one in a heartbeat, I feel in love with them. They're pretty standard in Europe.

Also, it works as fast as a traditional gas burner too, seriously, it heats that water up like something crazy. Truly, it's amazing tech and I really am still amazed it's not becoming standard in the US yet.
 
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