but that's only so it has room for a new seth mcfarlane vehicle. which will be an animated musical dramedy set in a high school.

This is sad news, because any show that would give Lea Michele more screentime is one I would want to watch.

/why yes, I'm a straight male
// why yes, I would like to penis her.

CowboyNinjaD: Hasn't the show's ratings really been diving over the past year or so? It filled a nice little pop culture niche for a while there, but maybe they should just let it end before it becomes an embarrassment to everyone involved.

i wouldn't judge it by its tv ratings, i'd judge it by its itunes soundtrack sales.

Carth: thomps: CowboyNinjaD: Hasn't the show's ratings really been diving over the past year or so? It filled a nice little pop culture niche for a while there, but maybe they should just let it end before it becomes an embarrassment to everyone involved.

i wouldn't judge it by its tv ratings, i'd judge it by its itunes soundtrack sales.

Have the itunes sales kept up? I just checked the wikipedia list of the songs from season 3 and it is almost all Broadway showtunes.

oh i have no idea. i'm just saying that there is a massive halo effect for revenue outside of tv ad sales for that show.

ha-ha-guy: CowboyNinjaD: Hasn't the show's ratings really been diving over the past year or so? It filled a nice little pop culture niche for a while there, but maybe they should just let it end before it becomes an embarrassment to everyone involved.

Pretty much this. It was a cute enough TV version of Broadway, but it is the kind of thing that runs into the ground quickly. They should do a full length movie on Glee (Mama Mia type of thing) to wrap it up and end on a high note.

Didn't the GLEE "Concert" film tank at the box office?

I am positive that the main reason it has lasted as long as this is that it became
the 'in' show for industry people to guest on, which meant that it was resistant
to ratings pressure for a little while.

thomps: Carth: thomps: CowboyNinjaD: Hasn't the show's ratings really been diving over the past year or so? It filled a nice little pop culture niche for a while there, but maybe they should just let it end before it becomes an embarrassment to everyone involved.

i wouldn't judge it by its tv ratings, i'd judge it by its itunes soundtrack sales.

Have the itunes sales kept up? I just checked the wikipedia list of the songs from season 3 and it is almost all Broadway showtunes.

oh i have no idea. i'm just saying that there is a massive halo effect for revenue outside of tv ad sales for that show.

and that's the basic problem with the current broadcast TV business model. Fox gets none of the "halo" revenue, that all goes to the show's producers. Fox only gets the Ad revenue from when the show airs (and that gets split with the affiliates). Residuals, DVD sales, Itunes sales, concert tickets, licensing, etc all go the show's production company not the network (and there are anti-trust rules saying a network can't air shows from it's own production company) Therefore the only the network cares about is the ratings.

The industry would be a whole lot more rational, and shows like "Firefly" would do a lot better if the model was flipped so that instead of the networks buying shows from the production companies, the production companies bought blocks of prime time airtime from the networks (and either kept or split the ad revenues). Then a show's surivival could be determined based on it's entire revenue generating potential (DVD sales, netflix/syndication rights etc etc etc) and shows would stay on the air longer, especially if they had a loyal nivhe fan base

Magorn: The industry would be a whole lot more rational, and shows like "Firefly" would do a lot better if the model was flipped so that instead of the networks buying shows from the production companies, the production companies bought blocks of prime time airtime from the networks (and either kept or split the ad revenues). Then a show's surivival could be determined based on it's entire revenue generating potential (DVD sales, netflix/syndication rights etc etc etc) and shows would stay on the air longer, especially if they had a loyal nivhe fan base

for a lot of those niche shows, we have to be getting to a point where the revenue is there for them to keep making the show after the network cuts them and they still have a strong fanbase, either through direct to dvd or distributed through itunes/netflix/etc. no?

If Glee was on pre-internet era. it would have become the single most common source of fappable material for teen boys for those unlucky enough to not be able to find their old man's Playboys. The dance numbers alone show more skin than Daisy Duke ever could.