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(The Hollywood Reporter)   Glee spin-off officially dead. See, Fox doesn't always make bad decisions   (hollywoodreporter.com) divider line 23
    More: Interesting, Glee, Cory Monteith, Chris Colfer, spin-off, Lea Michele  
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2012-01-09 10:06:14 AM  
but that's only so it has room for a new seth mcfarlane vehicle. which will be an animated musical dramedy set in a high school.
 
2012-01-09 10:07:12 AM  

thomps: but that's only so it has room for a new seth mcfarlane vehicle. which will be an animated musical dramedy set in a high school.


But also have a single talking animal
 
2012-01-09 10:09:23 AM  
I work for a Fox affiliate so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.
 
2012-01-09 10:12:40 AM  
Hasn't the show's ratings really been diving over the past year or so? It filled a nice little pop culture niche for a while there, but maybe they should just let it end before it becomes an embarrassment to everyone involved.
 
2012-01-09 10:14:06 AM  
This is sad news, because any show that would give Lea Michele more screentime is one I would want to watch.

/why yes, I'm a straight male
// why yes, I would like to penis her.
 
2012-01-09 10:15:06 AM  

CowboyNinjaD: Hasn't the show's ratings really been diving over the past year or so? It filled a nice little pop culture niche for a while there, but maybe they should just let it end before it becomes an embarrassment to everyone involved.


i wouldn't judge it by its tv ratings, i'd judge it by its itunes soundtrack sales.
 
2012-01-09 10:15:49 AM  
The only good episode of Glee was done on Community.

/boopty boopty oopty boo sex
 
2012-01-09 10:18:45 AM  

CowboyNinjaD: Hasn't the show's ratings really been diving over the past year or so? It filled a nice little pop culture niche for a while there, but maybe they should just let it end before it becomes an embarrassment to everyone involved.


Pretty much this. It was a cute enough TV version of Broadway, but it is the kind of thing that runs into the ground quickly. They should do a full length movie on Glee (Mama Mia type of thing) to wrap it up and end on a high note.
 
2012-01-09 10:19:17 AM  

thomps: CowboyNinjaD: Hasn't the show's ratings really been diving over the past year or so? It filled a nice little pop culture niche for a while there, but maybe they should just let it end before it becomes an embarrassment to everyone involved.

i wouldn't judge it by its tv ratings, i'd judge it by its itunes soundtrack sales.


Have the itunes sales kept up? I just checked the wikipedia list of the songs from season 3 and it is almost all Broadway showtunes.
 
2012-01-09 10:21:24 AM  

Carth: thomps: CowboyNinjaD: Hasn't the show's ratings really been diving over the past year or so? It filled a nice little pop culture niche for a while there, but maybe they should just let it end before it becomes an embarrassment to everyone involved.

i wouldn't judge it by its tv ratings, i'd judge it by its itunes soundtrack sales.

Have the itunes sales kept up? I just checked the wikipedia list of the songs from season 3 and it is almost all Broadway showtunes.


oh i have no idea. i'm just saying that there is a massive halo effect for revenue outside of tv ad sales for that show.
 
2012-01-09 10:31:13 AM  

ha-ha-guy: CowboyNinjaD: Hasn't the show's ratings really been diving over the past year or so? It filled a nice little pop culture niche for a while there, but maybe they should just let it end before it becomes an embarrassment to everyone involved.

Pretty much this. It was a cute enough TV version of Broadway, but it is the kind of thing that runs into the ground quickly. They should do a full length movie on Glee (Mama Mia type of thing) to wrap it up and end on a high note.


Didn't the GLEE "Concert" film tank at the box office?

I am positive that the main reason it has lasted as long as this is that it became
the 'in' show for industry people to guest on, which meant that it was resistant
to ratings pressure for a little while.
 
2012-01-09 11:13:58 AM  

thomps: Carth: thomps: CowboyNinjaD: Hasn't the show's ratings really been diving over the past year or so? It filled a nice little pop culture niche for a while there, but maybe they should just let it end before it becomes an embarrassment to everyone involved.

i wouldn't judge it by its tv ratings, i'd judge it by its itunes soundtrack sales.

Have the itunes sales kept up? I just checked the wikipedia list of the songs from season 3 and it is almost all Broadway showtunes.

oh i have no idea. i'm just saying that there is a massive halo effect for revenue outside of tv ad sales for that show.


and that's the basic problem with the current broadcast TV business model. Fox gets none of the "halo" revenue, that all goes to the show's producers. Fox only gets the Ad revenue from when the show airs (and that gets split with the affiliates). Residuals, DVD sales, Itunes sales, concert tickets, licensing, etc all go the show's production company not the network (and there are anti-trust rules saying a network can't air shows from it's own production company) Therefore the only the network cares about is the ratings.

The industry would be a whole lot more rational, and shows like "Firefly" would do a lot better if the model was flipped so that instead of the networks buying shows from the production companies, the production companies bought blocks of prime time airtime from the networks (and either kept or split the ad revenues). Then a show's surivival could be determined based on it's entire revenue generating potential (DVD sales, netflix/syndication rights etc etc etc) and shows would stay on the air longer, especially if they had a loyal nivhe fan base
 
2012-01-09 11:18:55 AM  

Magorn: The industry would be a whole lot more rational, and shows like "Firefly" would do a lot better if the model was flipped so that instead of the networks buying shows from the production companies, the production companies bought blocks of prime time airtime from the networks (and either kept or split the ad revenues). Then a show's surivival could be determined based on it's entire revenue generating potential (DVD sales, netflix/syndication rights etc etc etc) and shows would stay on the air longer, especially if they had a loyal nivhe fan base


for a lot of those niche shows, we have to be getting to a point where the revenue is there for them to keep making the show after the network cuts them and they still have a strong fanbase, either through direct to dvd or distributed through itunes/netflix/etc. no?
 
2012-01-09 11:21:51 AM  
If Glee was on pre-internet era. it would have become the single most common source of fappable material for teen boys for those unlucky enough to not be able to find their old man's Playboys. The dance numbers alone show more skin than Daisy Duke ever could.
 
2012-01-09 11:22:57 AM  

Magorn: thomps: Carth: thomps: CowboyNinjaD: Hasn't the show's ratings really been diving over the past year or so? It filled a nice little pop culture niche for a while there, but maybe they should just let it end before it becomes an embarrassment to everyone involved.

i wouldn't judge it by its tv ratings, i'd judge it by its itunes soundtrack sales.

Have the itunes sales kept up? I just checked the wikipedia list of the songs from season 3 and it is almost all Broadway showtunes.

oh i have no idea. i'm just saying that there is a massive halo effect for revenue outside of tv ad sales for that show.

and that's the basic problem with the current broadcast TV business model. Fox gets none of the "halo" revenue, that all goes to the show's producers. Fox only gets the Ad revenue from when the show airs (and that gets split with the affiliates). Residuals, DVD sales, Itunes sales, concert tickets, licensing, etc all go the show's production company not the network (and there are anti-trust rules saying a network can't air shows from it's own production company) Therefore the only the network cares about is the ratings.

The industry would be a whole lot more rational, and shows like "Firefly" would do a lot better if the model was flipped so that instead of the networks buying shows from the production companies, the production companies bought blocks of prime time airtime from the networks (and either kept or split the ad revenues). Then a show's surivival could be determined based on it's entire revenue generating potential (DVD sales, netflix/syndication rights etc etc etc) and shows would stay on the air longer, especially if they had a loyal nivhe fan base


Hopefully when the next Firefly happens, all those other methods of income (action figures, card games, whatever else) will allow the production company to keep the show alive. Then they can just dump episodes on Hulu or some other hosting service. That's really the next step, some production company setting up its own streaming service and going to town. South Park is playing with the idea. Williams Street (the guys who do Adult Swim) might also be able to do it.

DjangoStonereaver: ha-ha-guy: CowboyNinjaD: Hasn't the show's ratings really been diving over the past year or so? It filled a nice little pop culture niche for a while there, but maybe they should just let it end before it becomes an embarrassment to everyone involved.

Pretty much this. It was a cute enough TV version of Broadway, but it is the kind of thing that runs into the ground quickly. They should do a full length movie on Glee (Mama Mia type of thing) to wrap it up and end on a high note.

Didn't the GLEE "Concert" film tank at the box office?

I am positive that the main reason it has lasted as long as this is that it became
the 'in' show for industry people to guest on, which meant that it was resistant
to ratings pressure for a little while.


Could very well be. I just remember seeing an ad for that Noise movie recently and thinking "Urgh, Glee ripoffs at the theater. Make it stop."
 
2012-01-09 11:25:48 AM  

Pepperjack: I work for a Fox affiliate so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.


Please kill Bobs burgers.
 
2012-01-09 11:30:14 AM  

ha-ha-guy: Magorn: thomps: Carth: thomps: CowboyNinjaD: Hasn't the show's ratings really been diving over the past year or so? It filled a nice little pop culture niche for a while there, but maybe they should just let it end before it becomes an embarrassment to everyone involved.

i wouldn't judge it by its tv ratings, i'd judge it by its itunes soundtrack sales.

Have the itunes sales kept up? I just checked the wikipedia list of the songs from season 3 and it is almost all Broadway showtunes.

oh i have no idea. i'm just saying that there is a massive halo effect for revenue outside of tv ad sales for that show.

and that's the basic problem with the current broadcast TV business model. Fox gets none of the "halo" revenue, that all goes to the show's producers. Fox only gets the Ad revenue from when the show airs (and that gets split with the affiliates). Residuals, DVD sales, Itunes sales, concert tickets, licensing, etc all go the show's production company not the network (and there are anti-trust rules saying a network can't air shows from it's own production company) Therefore the only the network cares about is the ratings.

The industry would be a whole lot more rational, and shows like "Firefly" would do a lot better if the model was flipped so that instead of the networks buying shows from the production companies, the production companies bought blocks of prime time airtime from the networks (and either kept or split the ad revenues). Then a show's surivival could be determined based on it's entire revenue generating potential (DVD sales, netflix/syndication rights etc etc etc) and shows would stay on the air longer, especially if they had a loyal nivhe fan base

Hopefully when the next Firefly happens, all those other methods of income (action figures, card games, whatever else) will allow the production company to keep the show alive. Then they can just dump episodes on Hulu or some other hosting service. That's really the next step, some production compa ...


I"d love to see a show take the Louis CK method and sell each episode on their website for 2.50 or a season pass for some larger amount. If they could prove that is a viable model of distribution it would shake things up.
 
2012-01-09 11:31:25 AM  

Evil Mackerel: Pepperjack: I work for a Fox affiliate so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

Please kill Bobs burgers.


That time slot is like the kiss of death (doesn't help they keep putting crap there of course). The Simpsons and American Dad are normally solid. Family Guy has its up and downs (mostly down these days) and whatever ends up post Simpsons dies a gruesome death. I'm at the point of grabbing The Simpsons and American Dad off Hulu. If I'm bored, I'll roll the dice on Family Guy.

So just accept Bob Burgers is crap and it could be worse (Allen Gregory). Unless Fox decides to piss off the "think of children crowd" and move Archer to broadcast, they have nothing for that slot. Fox had its chance with Futurama and they farked that one up.


/I was glad to see classic Stewie make a cameo for the Xmas episode, "biatches gonna die".
//how did they kill Futurama but let MacFarland make six million crappy cartoons?
 
2012-01-09 12:20:51 PM  

NuttierThanEver: If Glee was on pre-internet era. it would have become the single most common source of fappable material for teen boys for those unlucky enough to not be able to find their old man's Playboys. The dance numbers alone show more skin than Daisy Duke ever could.


www.starzlife.com

This.
 
2012-01-09 05:04:09 PM  

Magorn: thomps: Carth: thomps: CowboyNinjaD: Hasn't the show's ratings really been diving over the past year or so? It filled a nice little pop culture niche for a while there, but maybe they should just let it end before it becomes an embarrassment to everyone involved.

i wouldn't judge it by its tv ratings, i'd judge it by its itunes soundtrack sales.

Have the itunes sales kept up? I just checked the wikipedia list of the songs from season 3 and it is almost all Broadway showtunes.

oh i have no idea. i'm just saying that there is a massive halo effect for revenue outside of tv ad sales for that show.

and that's the basic problem with the current broadcast TV business model. Fox gets none of the "halo" revenue, that all goes to the show's producers. Fox only gets the Ad revenue from when the show airs (and that gets split with the affiliates). Residuals, DVD sales, Itunes sales, concert tickets, licensing, etc all go the show's production company not the network (and there are anti-trust rules saying a network can't air shows from it's own production company) Therefore the only the network cares about is the ratings.

The industry would be a whole lot more rational, and shows like "Firefly" would do a lot better if the model was flipped so that instead of the networks buying shows from the production companies, the production companies bought blocks of prime time airtime from the networks (and either kept or split the ad revenues). Then a show's surivival could be determined based on it's entire revenue generating potential (DVD sales, netflix/syndication rights etc etc etc) and shows would stay on the air longer, especially if they had a loyal nivhe fan base


Except Glee is produced by 20th Century Fox Televison, so even The Fox network might not see money from DVD's; both ad revenue and dvd money end up on the balance sheet for newscorp shareholders. On a semi-related note this is part of the reason why Parks and Recreation has a better chance of staying on the air than community does (because P&R is produced by NBC/Universal).
 
2012-01-09 06:33:13 PM  
NBC already beat them to it.

collider.com
 
2012-01-10 10:28:42 AM  

ha-ha-guy: Evil Mackerel: Pepperjack: I work for a Fox affiliate so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

Please kill Bobs burgers.

That time slot is like the kiss of death (doesn't help they keep putting crap there of course). The Simpsons and American Dad are normally solid. Family Guy has its up and downs (mostly down these days) and whatever ends up post Simpsons dies a gruesome death. I'm at the point of grabbing The Simpsons and American Dad off Hulu. If I'm bored, I'll roll the dice on Family Guy.

So just accept Bob Burgers is crap and it could be worse (Allen Gregory). Unless Fox decides to piss off the "think of children crowd" and move Archer to broadcast, they have nothing for that slot. Fox had its chance with Futurama and they farked that one up.


/I was glad to see classic Stewie make a cameo for the Xmas episode, "biatches gonna die".
//how did they kill Futurama but let MacFarland make six million crappy cartoons?


Archer's a Turner property though.
 
2012-01-10 12:04:28 PM  

fusillade762: NBC already beat them to it.

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Katharine McPhee is the perfect woman.

www.sugarslam.com
 
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