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(SLTrib) Obvious Ap's fact check of the latest GOP debate finds that there MAY have been a few actual, verifiable facts uttered by the candidates, though they are still checking on whether somebody's real name could really be "Newt Gingrich"   (sltrib.com) divider line 38
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2012-01-09 12:22:33 PM
Why bother watching the debates?
 
2012-01-09 12:22:45 PM
Checking to see if Republicans stick to the facts at a debate is like checking to see if people stick to their diets at Dunkin' Donuts.
 
2012-01-09 12:23:39 PM
dogdaze: Checking to see if Republicans stick to the facts at a debate is like checking to see if people stick to their diets at Dunkin' Donuts.

Time to make the Derpnuts?
 
2012-01-09 12:28:24 PM
How convenient. The article doesn't mention the most honest and truthful candidate up there, Jon Huntsman...you know when Mitt Romney/Generic Teabagger lose to Obama in November I'm going to laugh at all my friend who said only Romney could win. Mitt is a lying sleaze ball who's sole goal in life is to be president. Fark him
 
2012-01-09 12:28:56 PM
Do debates ever, regardless of party, score well on a fact check afterwards? I mean is there a point anymore?
 
2012-01-09 12:28:58 PM
I love the Ap. Way better than the AP.
 
2012-01-09 12:29:43 PM
 
2012-01-09 12:32:38 PM
Le Grand Inquisitor: The article doesn't mention the most honest and truthful candidate up there, Jon Huntsman


Who is the guy with the ad where a woman says "the world is literally collapsing"?

I can't vote for someone who uses literally in a sentence when they mean metaphorically.
 
2012-01-09 12:33:50 PM
Cubicle Jockey: I can't vote for someone who uses literally in a sentence when they mean metaphorically.

It literally makes me head explode.
 
2012-01-09 12:36:36 PM
www.sltrib.com

Santorum: And that's why my Presidency will work tirelessly to put an end to blowjobs, handjobs, thighjobs, footjobs, oral sex, anal sex, and sex during that time of the month.
Romney: biatch, please.
 
2012-01-09 12:38:14 PM
Le Grand Inquisitor: The article doesn't mention the most honest and truthful candidate up there, Jon Huntsman.

And he doesn't have a chance for now. The irony is that if Huntsman were to win the GOP nomination, I think he'd be a real challenge to Obama in the general election.
 
2012-01-09 12:47:00 PM
Jairzinho: Le Grand Inquisitor: The article doesn't mention the most honest and truthful candidate up there, Jon Huntsman.

And he doesn't have a chance for now. The irony is that if Huntsman were to win the GOP nomination, I think he'd be a real challenge to Obama in the general election.


Run to the Right during primaries and back to the Center during general elections.
 
2012-01-09 12:47:22 PM
Jairzinho: Le Grand Inquisitor: The article doesn't mention the most honest and truthful candidate up there, Jon Huntsman.

And he doesn't have a chance for now. The irony is that if Huntsman were to win the GOP nomination, I think he'd be a real challenge to Obama in the general election.


Until he's questioned about his just-as-questionable stances on certain social issues. Bye-bye gay vote, black vote, atheist vote.
 
2012-01-09 12:49:01 PM
Jairzinho: And he doesn't have a chance for now. The irony is that if Huntsman were to win the GOP nomination, I think he'd be a real challenge to Obama in the general election.

Do you think he has a chance in the Veep slot?

I mean seriously, do you think the GOP would put TWO Mormons at the top of their ticket?
 
2012-01-09 12:49:31 PM
Republicans always check their facts. At the door, upon entry.
 
2012-01-09 12:54:58 PM
coeyagi: Jairzinho: Le Grand Inquisitor: The article doesn't mention the most honest and truthful candidate up there, Jon Huntsman.

And he doesn't have a chance for now. The irony is that if Huntsman were to win the GOP nomination, I think he'd be a real challenge to Obama in the general election.

Until he's questioned about his just-as-questionable stances on certain social issues. Bye-bye gay vote, black vote, atheist vote.


so gays, blacks, and atheists are monolithic voting blocks that only one perceived "wrong" phrase denies you any votes from them? That's a pretty simplistic way of looking at people. Ever met a log cabin republican? Those guys apparently vote against their socially deemed important interests all the time. But they don't fit into your neat box of social groups, so maybe we should ignore them...
 
2012-01-09 12:57:42 PM
Le Grand Inquisitor: coeyagi: Jairzinho: Le Grand Inquisitor: The article doesn't mention the most honest and truthful candidate up there, Jon Huntsman.

And he doesn't have a chance for now. The irony is that if Huntsman were to win the GOP nomination, I think he'd be a real challenge to Obama in the general election.

Until he's questioned about his just-as-questionable stances on certain social issues. Bye-bye gay vote, black vote, atheist vote.

so gays, blacks, and atheists are monolithic voting blocks that only one perceived "wrong" phrase denies you any votes from them? That's a pretty simplistic way of looking at people. Ever met a log cabin republican? Those guys apparently vote against their socially deemed important interests all the time. But they don't fit into your neat box of social groups, so maybe we should ignore them...


And there are SO many of them. Look, acquiring and retaining wealth are more important than rights to them. They have their priorities, but most people start looking at things other than rights once they're secure in the idea that their rights will be secured.
 
2012-01-09 01:00:59 PM
coeyagi: Jairzinho: Le Grand Inquisitor: The article doesn't mention the most honest and truthful candidate up there, Jon Huntsman.

And he doesn't have a chance for now. The irony is that if Huntsman were to win the GOP nomination, I think he'd be a real challenge to Obama in the general election.

Until he's questioned about his just-as-questionable stances on certain social issues. Bye-bye gay vote, black vote, atheist vote.


Anybody with a clue about economics vote. Link (new window)
 
2012-01-09 01:14:10 PM
spcMike: Cubicle Jockey: I can't vote for someone who uses literally in a sentence when they mean metaphorically.

It literally makes me head explode.

cdn.wg.uproxx.com

I feel LITERALLY the same way.
 
2012-01-09 01:19:32 PM
i44.tinypic.com
 
2012-01-09 01:29:30 PM
Dusk-You-n-Me: Romney's Bain figures don't add up (new window)

and yet the article doesn't say what the actual numbers are. so this is the typical "I know you are but what am I" level of attack on a candidate.
 
2012-01-09 01:30:32 PM
spcMike: Cubicle Jockey: I can't vote for someone who uses literally in a sentence when they mean metaphorically.

It literally makes me head explode.


What if they are using 'literally' in a metaphorical sense, or is it metaphorically using 'literally'?

/vote Kodos 2012
 
2012-01-09 01:33:45 PM
tenpoundsofcheese: and yet the article doesn't say what the actual numbers are. so this is the typical "I know you are but what am I" level of attack on a candidate.

And neither does Romney. Yet that doesn't stop him from repeatedly making the 100K jobs created claim.
 
2012-01-09 01:35:13 PM
madgonad: Do you think he has a chance in the Veep slot?

I mean seriously, do you think the GOP would put TWO Mormons at the top of their ticket?


I can easily see him as VP for any other candidate, but a two-Mormon ticket may be a pill too hard to swallow for the evangelicals.
 
2012-01-09 01:38:29 PM
madgonad: Jairzinho: And he doesn't have a chance for now. The irony is that if Huntsman were to win the GOP nomination, I think he'd be a real challenge to Obama in the general election.

Do you think he has a chance in the Veep slot?

I mean seriously, do you think the GOP would put TWO Mormons at the top of their ticket?


Well, its only a slight change from the two MORONS everyone's expecting them to run.
 
2012-01-09 02:11:14 PM
t3knomanser: Santorum: And that's why my Presidency will work tirelessly to put an end to blowjobs, handjobs, thighjobs, footjobs, oral sex, anal sex, and sex during that time of the month.
Romney: biatch, please.


Oh, I'd like that in demotivational poster form!
Internets awaaaaay!
 
2012-01-09 02:21:05 PM
FACT CHECK: Miscues with numbers in GOP debates

Yes, "miscues." These are simply consistent and constant "miscues." It's not like the GOP is trying to purposely drive a false narrative or something, right?
 
2012-01-09 02:31:51 PM
Jairzinho: Le Grand Inquisitor: The article doesn't mention the most honest and truthful candidate up there, Jon Huntsman.

And he doesn't have a chance for now. The irony is that if Huntsman were to win the GOP nomination, I think he'd be a real challenge to Obama in the general election.


I agree with this, evn though his economic policies are quite right wing.
 
2012-01-09 02:35:18 PM
Cubicle Jockey: I can't vote for someone who uses literally in a sentence when they mean metaphorically.

I LOL'd when I heard this:

"We're going to see Iran, in my opinion, move back in at literally the speed of light. They're going to move back in, and all of the work we've done -- every young man that has lost his life in that country will have been for nothing. Because we've got a president that does not understand what's going on in that region," Perry said.

Source (new window)

I didn't know that technology existed.
 
2012-01-09 02:48:40 PM
CanonicalNerd: Cubicle Jockey: I can't vote for someone who uses literally in a sentence when they mean metaphorically.

I LOL'd when I heard this:

"We're going to see Iran, in my opinion, move back in at literally the speed of light. They're going to move back in, and all of the work we've done -- every young man that has lost his life in that country will have been for nothing. Because we've got a president that does not understand what's going on in that region," Perry said.

Source (new window)

I didn't know that technology existed.


Yeah, Wally West changed his name to Yusuf Islam and moved to Tehran.
 
2012-01-09 02:54:20 PM
madgonad: Do you think he has a chance in the Veep slot?

The early Veep rumblings suggest a tea party lean to capture disaffected RON PAUL voters (Rand, perhaps) or a minority lean like Susana Martinez or Marco Rubio. Latinos arent nearly as lockstep with the democratic vote as blacks and a non-derp immigration policy with a latino running mate might be good press

Of course, any minority conservative will get absolutely crucified by the democratic machine but this is to be expected.
 
2012-01-09 03:25:55 PM
Best exchange in the last week:


Gingrich :
"What you have to raise questions about is, somebody goes out, invests a certain amount of money, say $30 million, takes out an amount, say $180 million -- six to one return -- and then the company goes bankrupt. Now, you have to ask a question: Is capitalism really about the ability of a handful of rich people to manipulate the lives of thousands of other people and walk off with the money? Or is that, in fact, a little bit of a flawed system? And so I do draw a distinction between looting a company, leaving behind broken families and broken neighbors, and leaving behind a factory that should be there."

Perry:
"There is nothing wrong with being successful and making money ... There is something inherently wrong when getting rich off failure and sticking it to someone else is how you do your business, and I happen to think that is indefensible. If you're a victim of Bain Capital's downsizing, it's the ultimate insult for Mitt Romney to come to South Carolina and tell you he feels your pain -- because he caused it."

Romney:
You sound like a Democrat by "running against the private sector."



Romney is such a living breathing stereotype of a spoiled, disconnected, elitist corporate trust fund baby. It's going to be fun to watch if he gets the nomination.
 
2012-01-09 03:45:31 PM
Guidette Frankentits: Why bother watching the debates?

Because every so often a candidate lets something slip. Like Romney going after Huntsman simply for serving as ambassador to China under Obama. It's farking China. Not some podunk country like Malta or something stupid like the US Ambassador to the UN. It's farking China. Attacking high level US Foreign Service members for serving under a Democrat is like attacking generals and admirals for serving under a Democrat. That sort of counterproductive partisan politics indicates that Romney has no business being anywhere near the White House.
 
2012-01-09 04:38:12 PM
spiderpaz: Romney is such a living breathing stereotype of a spoiled, disconnected, elitist corporate trust fund baby. It's going to be fun to watch if he gets the nomination.

Why?

He is just like GWB. Born on third base and thought he hit a triple. His powerful father opened every door for him. If he can just get taxes lowered on the 1% there will be nothing to stop 30-40 million Republicans from becoming multimillionaires.
 
2012-01-09 04:42:32 PM
You know - people don't have to be lying, scheming scumbags - they can just be really, really, REALLY wrong.
 
2012-01-09 05:00:54 PM
Only $1.1 trillion... I put that on my CC last month
 
2012-01-10 12:28:33 AM
spiderpaz: Best exchange in the last week:


Gingrich :
"What you have to raise questions about is, somebody goes out, invests a certain amount of money, say $30 million, takes out an amount, say $180 million -- six to one return -- and then the company goes bankrupt. Now, you have to ask a question: Is capitalism really about the ability of a handful of rich people to manipulate the lives of thousands of other people and walk off with the money? Or is that, in fact, a little bit of a flawed system? And so I do draw a distinction between looting a company, leaving behind broken families and broken neighbors, and leaving behind a factory that should be there."

Perry:
"There is nothing wrong with being successful and making money ... There is something inherently wrong when getting rich off failure and sticking it to someone else is how you do your business, and I happen to think that is indefensible. If you're a victim of Bain Capital's downsizing, it's the ultimate insult for Mitt Romney to come to South Carolina and tell you he feels your pain -- because he caused it."

Romney:
You sound like a Democrat by "running against the private sector."



Romney is such a living breathing stereotype of a spoiled, disconnected, elitist corporate trust fund baby. It's going to be fun to watch if he gets the nomination.


It seems odd to see Gingrich and Perry taking stands against screwing people over.. but then you realize they're only doing it to attack Romney.
 
2012-01-10 12:58:26 AM
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