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2012-01-09 09:14:06 AM
I'm surprised Huntsman wasn't able to get more traction there
 
2012-01-09 09:16:12 AM
Three Santorum signs in that picture. Hopefully the road has enough storm drains to handle the Santorum surge.
 
2012-01-09 09:18:27 AM
I think what we're seeing is people getting sick of the extreme bullshiat and partisan hackery. The Tea Tards and their corporate backers have pushed their extreme right wing propaganda so hard for so so long that I suspect many center/independents are just pain tired of the "EVERYTHING IS PARTISAN". Even the primary party members seem to be tired. Only the extreme idiots (you know, the ones on facebook and the paid ones on Fark) will keep it up. The rest of us are just plain sick and tired of the outrage over everything and everybody.
 
2012-01-09 09:18:45 AM
I don't know who this Fartbong is, but I'm pretty sure that's not how you pronounce his name.
 
2012-01-09 09:19:12 AM
Amazing how this article comes out just after the politico article on how important new Hampshire is to Obama and his reelection.
 
2012-01-09 09:20:22 AM

trotsky: I think what we're seeing is people getting sick of the extreme bullshiat and partisan hackery. The Tea Tards and their corporate backers have pushed their extreme right wing propaganda so hard for so so long that I suspect many center/independents are just pain tired of the "EVERYTHING IS PARTISAN". Even the primary party members seem to be tired. Only the extreme idiots (you know, the ones on facebook and the paid ones on Fark) will keep it up. The rest of us are just plain sick and tired of the outrage over everything and everybody.


Holy shiat. The irony of you calling others partisan in this post is delicious.
 
2012-01-09 09:21:27 AM

trotsky: I think what we're seeing is people getting sick of the extreme bullshiat and partisan hackery. The Tea Tards and their corporate backers have pushed their extreme right wing propaganda so hard for so so long that I suspect many center/independents are just pain tired of the "EVERYTHING IS PARTISAN". Even the primary party members seem to be tired. Only the extreme idiots (you know, the ones on facebook and the paid ones on Fark) will keep it up. The rest of us are just plain sick and tired of the outrage over everything and everybody.


I'm wondering how that will play out if, for example, Romney gets the Nom, and Paul runs as an independent. It seems like it would split the vote pretty hard.
 
2012-01-09 09:25:53 AM

MyRandomName: trotsky: I think what we're seeing is people getting sick of the extreme bullshiat and partisan hackery. The Tea Tards and their corporate backers have pushed their extreme right wing propaganda so hard for so so long that I suspect many center/independents are just pain tired of the "EVERYTHING IS PARTISAN". Even the primary party members seem to be tired. Only the extreme idiots (you know, the ones on facebook and the paid ones on Fark) will keep it up. The rest of us are just plain sick and tired of the outrage over everything and everybody.

Holy shiat. The irony of you calling others partisan in this post is delicious.


Huh? Because of my user name?
 
2012-01-09 09:27:43 AM

trotsky: Huh? Because of my user name?


Partisan hacks like to be called 'Tea Enabled,' not 'Tea Tards.'
 
2012-01-09 09:30:54 AM

rjakobi: I don't know who this Fartbong is, but I'm pretty sure that's not how you pronounce his name.


It sounds like something nasty, like a sex aid for a coprophage.
 
2012-01-09 09:31:00 AM

LasersHurt: I'm wondering how that will play out if, for example, Romney gets the Nom, and Paul runs as an independent. It seems like it would split the vote pretty hard.


You know, I was discussing this with a friend the other day. Namely, the orchestration of such a move. Romney's a lock for the nomination, and he's extremely unlikely to beat Obama in 2012 unless something drastic happens in the next eleven months. The whole thing reeks of 2004, except Romney is the GOP's Kerry.

So, rationally the Republican party has nothing to lose by letting Paul off the leash and letting him run as an independent. Quite the opposite, in fact, as the Republicans have much to gain from it. The wingnuts will gravitate towards him as the not-Romney, lose the election, and go back to relative marginal and quiet status taking their marching orders from the RNC after having been used to flip the House in 2010. The GOP has a ready scapegoat for losing the election instead of just admitting they screwed the pooch, and something to point out to counter allegations of a real mandate or having their "referendum on 0bummer" rhetoric turned against them.

It's the best of both worlds: it's a way to lose "gracefully" and without accepting responsibility for having completely farked up.
 
2012-01-09 09:31:04 AM

DarnoKonrad: trotsky: Huh? Because of my user name?

Partisan hacks like to be called 'Tea Enabled,' not 'Tea Tards.'


Oh, I'm sorry. Since I cannot edit, I'll make sure to use the term from now on. I want to be polite and correct, you know.
 
2012-01-09 09:32:47 AM

DarnoKonrad: trotsky: Huh? Because of my user name?

Partisan hacks like to be called 'Tea Enabled,' not 'Tea Tards.'


Got danged lieberal PC police, give it a rest and furthermore
 
2012-01-09 09:33:02 AM
"You're not going to get on 'Fox and Friends' by collecting petitions" to get on ballots, a top Romney official said.

That's a goal of the campaign, is it? To get on Fox & Friends?
 
2012-01-09 09:41:41 AM
I'm left of center, but goddamnitalltohell, I want is a government that works on rational principles in a sustainable manner and looks further down the the road then the next election.

Give me that and you have my cooperation and possibly my money.
 
2012-01-09 09:42:06 AM

trotsky: I think what we're seeing is people getting sick of the extreme bullshiat and partisan hackery. The Tea Tards and their corporate backers have pushed their extreme right wing propaganda so hard for so so long that I suspect many center/independents are just pain tired of the "EVERYTHING IS PARTISAN". Even the primary party members seem to be tired. Only the extreme idiots (you know, the ones on facebook and the paid ones on Fark) will keep it up. The rest of us are just plain sick and tired of the outrage over everything and everybody realizing that Romney is going to win the nomination and not caring about the primaries. .


ftfy. source: the article.
 
2012-01-09 09:43:04 AM

Boxcutta: "You're not going to get on 'Fox and Friends' by collecting petitions" to get on ballots, a top Romney official said.

That's a goal of the campaign, is it? To get on Fox & Friends?


Expect nothing and go home satisfied.
 
2012-01-09 09:46:11 AM

trotsky: I think what we're seeing is people getting sick of the extreme bullshiat and partisan hackery. The Tea Tards and their corporate backers have pushed their extreme right wing propaganda so hard for so so long that I suspect many center/independents are just pain tired of the "EVERYTHING IS PARTISAN". Even the primary party members seem to be tired. Only the extreme idiots (you know, the ones on facebook and the paid ones on Fark) will keep it up. The rest of us are just plain sick and tired of the outrage over everything and everybody.


Actually, I would say that people are fed up with the Republican Party. It's hard to take them seriously after they keep talking up the tired 'how's all that CHANGE for you' line when they have done absolutely nothing after running on the same thing in 2010. How did that Republican change help me? By realizing the Dubya Party has gone so far off the rails that they killed our credit rating out of sheer racist spite.

The Republicans have been trying to frame this as a referendum on Obama. They make everything into a referendum on Obama. But 2012 is a reflection on how little the Republicans really do in any sort of power. 2011 was a disaster for them on every conceivable level and gave everybody a crystal clear look into the mindset of a fracturing party that would rather run dozens of 'debates' while not doing their jobs. 2011 is a perfect example of Republican Welfare at work, and now they're trying to pin it on the president.

The Republican lack of enthusiasm isn't just the candidates, it's the theatricality of politics that the Republicans represent. They preen for the cameras more than they do their jobs and everybody is catching onto it, even their base.
 
2012-01-09 09:47:47 AM

Lost Thought 00: I'm surprised Huntsman wasn't able to get more traction there


he is (I live here in NH) - I think people are going to be surprised tomorrow night with how he does (Mitt still winning though)
 
2012-01-09 09:48:18 AM

LasersHurt: trotsky: I think what we're seeing is people getting sick of the extreme bullshiat and partisan hackery. The Tea Tards and their corporate backers have pushed their extreme right wing propaganda so hard for so so long that I suspect many center/independents are just pain tired of the "EVERYTHING IS PARTISAN". Even the primary party members seem to be tired. Only the extreme idiots (you know, the ones on facebook and the paid ones on Fark) will keep it up. The rest of us are just plain sick and tired of the outrage over everything and everybody.

I'm wondering how that will play out if, for example, Romney gets the Nom, and Paul runs as an independent. It seems like it would split the vote pretty hard.


Paul won't run as an independent. He is a professional attention whore trying to get his libertarian message out. He did the same exact thing in 2008, teasing an independent run then taking his donations and giving them to his own advocacy group.
 
2012-01-09 09:48:29 AM
All the attacks on Romney are wearing on his NH standings, he is now "only" 20 points ahead in the polls. At his rate he'll end up tying with Paul in NH a couple of months *after* the primary is done.

The talking heads will do nothing but speak about his 2-0 standing for the 10 days leading up to SC, where he is currently 10 points ahead, his lead will only improve and he'll take that state as well. Then the talking heads will speak of nothing but his 3-0 standing leading up to FL 10 days after that, where he is currently 6 points ahead and likely to strengthen, making it 4-0. This primary season was over before it began.

I told you people when Bachmann blipped in the Iowa straw poll, when Perry had a single good week, when Cain had he short ride at the top, when Gingrich shot up like a rocket then exploded, and now that Santorum is the It Girl of the day... Romney was the only candidate with the ground game to win. Barring a massive scandal, you conservatives will be facing a Obama v Romney choice on Nov 6th 2012, if you bother to show up at the voting booth at all. On Jan 20th 2013 just to ultra-troll, Obama should swear in on a Koran.
 
2012-01-09 09:48:58 AM

DarnoKonrad: trotsky: Huh? Because of my user name?

Partisan hacks like to be called 'Tea Enabled,' not 'Tea Tards.'


Palin American.
 
2012-01-09 09:53:18 AM

the opposite of charity is justice: \Barring a massive scandal, you conservatives will be facing a Obama v Romney choice on Nov 6th 2012, if you bother to show up at the voting booth at all.


Do you think conservatives would rather have 0bama than Romney? Seriously?
Do you think conservatives think that if they don't vote, that they think that somehow that will help Romney?
 
2012-01-09 09:54:32 AM

Carth: LasersHurt: trotsky: I think what we're seeing is people getting sick of the extreme bullshiat and partisan hackery. The Tea Tards and their corporate backers have pushed their extreme right wing propaganda so hard for so so long that I suspect many center/independents are just pain tired of the "EVERYTHING IS PARTISAN". Even the primary party members seem to be tired. Only the extreme idiots (you know, the ones on facebook and the paid ones on Fark) will keep it up. The rest of us are just plain sick and tired of the outrage over everything and everybody.

I'm wondering how that will play out if, for example, Romney gets the Nom, and Paul runs as an independent. It seems like it would split the vote pretty hard.

Paul won't run as an independent. He is a professional attention whore trying to get his libertarian message out. He did the same exact thing in 2008, teasing an independent run then taking his donations and giving them to his own advocacy group.


He ran as a Libertarian in 1988. Not that he would do it now.
 
2012-01-09 09:58:32 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: the opposite of charity is justice: \Barring a massive scandal, you conservatives will be facing a Obama v Romney choice on Nov 6th 2012, if you bother to show up at the voting booth at all.

Do you think conservatives would rather have 0bama than Romney? Seriously?
Do you think conservatives think that if they don't vote, that they think that somehow that will help Romney?


An old style, Goldwater conservative wouldn't see much difference between the two. The current radical-right model conservative, on the other hand, has a whole different set of litmus tests, on which Romney scores a bit (not a lot) better than Obama.
In case it's not clear - I'm agreeing with you.
 
2012-01-09 09:58:50 AM
Hopefully the republican "meh" continues into the election.

worst thing that could happen to this county is one of these crazies getting elected.

/yes republicans, you have farked up this country. deal with it.
 
2012-01-09 10:03:14 AM

Forgot_my_password_again: Hopefully the republican "meh" continues into the election.

worst thing that could happen to this county is one of these crazies getting elected.

/yes republicans, you have farked up this country. deal with it.


Tell me how Republicans have farked up this country.
Difficulty: tie the fark ups to when they were in enough power in the house, senate and presidency to do things without the dems help.
 
2012-01-09 10:03:43 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: the opposite of charity is justice: Barring a massive scandal, you conservatives will be facing a Obama v Romney choice on Nov 6th 2012, if you bother to show up at the voting booth at all.

Do you think conservatives would rather have 0bama than Romney? Seriously?


One does not follow the other. Just because a voter prefers X over Y does not mean they prefer them *enough* to show up at the polling stations. Not like this is a new phenomenon at all, either you're fully aware of this phenomenon and are just being partisan-dense or you are you are too young/experienced to be participating in a political discussion.

/seriously, zero-bama? what are you, 12?
 
2012-01-09 10:04:04 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: the opposite of charity is justice: \Barring a massive scandal, you conservatives will be facing a Obama v Romney choice on Nov 6th 2012, if you bother to show up at the voting booth at all.

Do you think conservatives would rather have 0bama than Romney? Seriously?
Do you think conservatives think that if they don't vote, that they think that somehow that will help Romney?


Religious conservatives would rather sit home and read their bible than vote for either.

If I see a Baptist pastor go and shill for Mormon's Jebus-bona fides, I can safely write the entire religion off as a money making scam and political party that just happens to meet in a church.
 
2012-01-09 10:05:51 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: Difficulty: tie the fark ups to when they were in enough power in the house, senate and presidency to do things without the dems help.


The years 2002-2006 come to mind.
 
2012-01-09 10:06:25 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: Forgot_my_password_again: Hopefully the republican "meh" continues into the election.

worst thing that could happen to this county is one of these crazies getting elected.

/yes republicans, you have farked up this country. deal with it.

Tell me how Republicans have farked up this country.
Difficulty: tie the fark ups to when they were in enough power in the house, senate and presidency to do things without the dems help.


img.photobucket.com
 
2012-01-09 10:12:58 AM
"President" Zero Bama Zero, the Muslim Usurper.
 
2012-01-09 10:13:43 AM

Carth: Paul won't run as an independent. He is a professional attention whore trying to get his libertarian message out. He did the same exact thing in 2008, teasing an independent run then taking his donations and giving them to his own advocacy group.


The reason I think Paul might do it is because he'll be the same age on inauguration day as Reagan was when he stepped down. He's old enough to say 'fark this, I'm taking you down with me'. And, heck, I'd consider a lulz-vote for a Paul/Gary Johnson ticket, even though I'm generally with Obama, mostly because I'm in an entirely certain-lock state in the electoral college (same reason I've voted for Nader and Perot).

At this point for him, it's either a footnote in history (like getting a Libertarian ticket over the 1% mark they hit in 1980) or it's warm-milk-and-cookies time.
 
2012-01-09 10:14:04 AM

Jackson Herring: "President" Zero Bama Zero, the Muslim Usurper.


0bama0?

Oh. I get it.
 
2012-01-09 10:14:40 AM
www.wallpaperpimper.com

images.free-extras.com
 
2012-01-09 10:14:45 AM

jso2897: Carth: LasersHurt: trotsky: I think what we're seeing is people getting sick of the extreme bullshiat and partisan hackery. The Tea Tards and their corporate backers have pushed their extreme right wing propaganda so hard for so so long that I suspect many center/independents are just pain tired of the "EVERYTHING IS PARTISAN". Even the primary party members seem to be tired. Only the extreme idiots (you know, the ones on facebook and the paid ones on Fark) will keep it up. The rest of us are just plain sick and tired of the outrage over everything and everybody.

I'm wondering how that will play out if, for example, Romney gets the Nom, and Paul runs as an independent. It seems like it would split the vote pretty hard.

Paul won't run as an independent. He is a professional attention whore trying to get his libertarian message out. He did the same exact thing in 2008, teasing an independent run then taking his donations and giving them to his own advocacy group.

He ran as a Libertarian in 1988. Not that he would do it now.


He wasn't over 75 years old back then though. A presidential campaign that would realistically draw enough votes away from Romney in swing states is asking a bit too much of him at this point. I think in the next four years we will see his son (Rand) take up his mantel and possibility run for president in 2016.
 
2012-01-09 10:17:41 AM
I will withhold judgment until winterwhile chimes in with his witty Smorgaasbord of ellipses, "rats", "zeros", and defective grandma's knees comments.
 
2012-01-09 10:19:17 AM

qorkfiend: tenpoundsofcheese: Difficulty: tie the fark ups to when they were in enough power in the house, senate and presidency to do things without the dems help.

The years 2002-2006 come to mind.


Did you not like the unemployment numbers during that period? Or do you like them more starting in 2007?


since you are blaming the GOP, what legislation passed without the dems that caused fark ups of low unemployment?
 
2012-01-09 10:19:38 AM

Carth: A presidential campaign that would realistically draw enough votes away from Romney in swing states is asking a bit too much of him at this point.


I think Ron Paul could do some serious damage to the GOP, as his followers have real ideological disagreements with the GOP -- and there's a lot of them. Some 15% or so. Numbers Nader could only dream about.

But I don't think he'll run. He's a Republican for a reason.
 
2012-01-09 10:19:54 AM

coeyagi: defective grandma's knees


Poor woman. Must've taken an arrow when she was younger.
 
2012-01-09 10:20:17 AM

Carth: jso2897: Carth: LasersHurt: trotsky: I think what we're seeing is people getting sick of the extreme bullshiat and partisan hackery. The Tea Tards and their corporate backers have pushed their extreme right wing propaganda so hard for so so long that I suspect many center/independents are just pain tired of the "EVERYTHING IS PARTISAN". Even the primary party members seem to be tired. Only the extreme idiots (you know, the ones on facebook and the paid ones on Fark) will keep it up. The rest of us are just plain sick and tired of the outrage over everything and everybody.

I'm wondering how that will play out if, for example, Romney gets the Nom, and Paul runs as an independent. It seems like it would split the vote pretty hard.

Paul won't run as an independent. He is a professional attention whore trying to get his libertarian message out. He did the same exact thing in 2008, teasing an independent run then taking his donations and giving them to his own advocacy group.

He ran as a Libertarian in 1988. Not that he would do it now.

He wasn't over 75 years old back then though. A presidential campaign that would realistically draw enough votes away from Romney in swing states is asking a bit too much of him at this point. I think in the next four years we will see his son (Rand) take up his mantel and possibility run for president in 2016.


But Rand's policies, while still batshiat crazy, are rather different from his father's.
 
2012-01-09 10:22:12 AM

the opposite of charity is justice: tenpoundsofcheese: the opposite of charity is justice: Barring a massive scandal, you conservatives will be facing a Obama v Romney choice on Nov 6th 2012, if you bother to show up at the voting booth at all.

Do you think conservatives would rather have 0bama than Romney? Seriously?

One does not follow the other. Just because a voter prefers X over Y does not mean they prefer them *enough* to show up at the polling stations. Not like this is a new phenomenon at all, either you're fully aware of this phenomenon and are just being partisan-dense or you are you are too young/experienced to be participating in a political discussion.

Nor does it mean that the GOP stays home because they don't like Romney enough.

/seriously, zero-bama? what are you, 12?


I say Boehner ,you say Boner.
This is fark. Where it is about mocking news. Get over it.
If you want a serious political discussion, go to a site that isn't about mocking news.
 
2012-01-09 10:22:22 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: qorkfiend: tenpoundsofcheese: Difficulty: tie the fark ups to when they were in enough power in the house, senate and presidency to do things without the dems help.

The years 2002-2006 come to mind.

Did you not like the unemployment numbers during that period? Or do you like them more starting in 2007?


since you are blaming the GOP, what legislation passed without the dems that caused fark ups of low unemployment?


Medicare Part D
Invasion of Iraq
Bush Tax Cuts Part II

Gross fark-ups, every one of them, and each has contributed to the current state of the union.
 
2012-01-09 10:23:28 AM

Lawnchair: Carth: Paul won't run as an independent. He is a professional attention whore trying to get his libertarian message out. He did the same exact thing in 2008, teasing an independent run then taking his donations and giving them to his own advocacy group.

The reason I think Paul might do it is because he'll be the same age on inauguration day as Reagan was when he stepped down. He's old enough to say 'fark this, I'm taking you down with me'. And, heck, I'd consider a lulz-vote for a Paul/Gary Johnson ticket, even though I'm generally with Obama, mostly because I'm in an entirely certain-lock state in the electoral college (same reason I've voted for Nader and Perot).

At this point for him, it's either a footnote in history (like getting a Libertarian ticket over the 1% mark they hit in 1980) or it's warm-milk-and-cookies time.


Like someone pointed out in the last debate thread, his decision about whether to run 3rd party may not be based on the same factors this time around. Rand Paul has already said he'd consider running in 2016, and if he's serious I think his dad would try to weigh out whether it would damage Rand's chances then to associate the Paul name with a public split from the Republican party now.
 
2012-01-09 10:23:35 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: qorkfiend: tenpoundsofcheese: Difficulty: tie the fark ups to when they were in enough power in the house, senate and presidency to do things without the dems help.

The years 2002-2006 come to mind.

Did you not like the unemployment numbers during that period? Or do you like them more starting in 2007?


since you are blaming the GOP, what legislation passed without the dems that caused fark ups of low unemployment?


The Bush Administration never had lower unemployment than on his Inauguration day. The entire record of his administration on unemployment was to increase it.
 
2012-01-09 10:24:23 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: Tell me how Republicans have farked up this country.


whitenoiseinsanity.com
 
2012-01-09 10:26:09 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: The Bush Administration never had lower unemployment than on his Inauguration day. The entire record of his administration on unemployment was to increase it.


But look how low gas prices were in 2008! Sure, the economy was destroyed...but he lowered gas prices!
 
2012-01-09 10:26:14 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: Forgot_my_password_again: Hopefully the republican "meh" continues into the election.

worst thing that could happen to this county is one of these crazies getting elected.

/yes republicans, you have farked up this country. deal with it.

Tell me how Republicans have farked up this country.
Difficulty: tie the fark ups to when they were in enough power in the house, senate and presidency to do things without the dems help.



Getting involved in two trillion-dollar wars (one was necessary, I'll admit) while simultaneously lowering revenue to (not) pay for it, and then raising the debt ceiling 5 times to put the problem off until some other administration has to deal with it. Deregulating industries that almost immediately went into a death spiral due to lack of oversight. Is that enough for you?
How about ignoring a mounting recession until Dec '08? How about giving billions in uncontested contracts to their oil buddies? How about losing billions of dollars in cash in Iraq? How about never finding any WMDs (you know, the reason we went to war in the first place) after Rumsfeld told us exactly where they were? How about demonstrating to our allies that we're going to damn well do as we please, regardless of how it hurts our standing in the world? That enough?
 
2012-01-09 10:29:56 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: Carth: jso2897: Carth: LasersHurt: trotsky: I think what we're seeing is people getting sick of the extreme bullshiat and partisan hackery. The Tea Tards and their corporate backers have pushed their extreme right wing propaganda so hard for so so long that I suspect many center/independents are just pain tired of the "EVERYTHING IS PARTISAN". Even the primary party members seem to be tired. Only the extreme idiots (you know, the ones on facebook and the paid ones on Fark) will keep it up. The rest of us are just plain sick and tired of the outrage over everything and everybody.

I'm wondering how that will play out if, for example, Romney gets the Nom, and Paul runs as an independent. It seems like it would split the vote pretty hard.

Paul won't run as an independent. He is a professional attention whore trying to get his libertarian message out. He did the same exact thing in 2008, teasing an independent run then taking his donations and giving them to his own advocacy group.

He ran as a Libertarian in 1988. Not that he would do it now.

He wasn't over 75 years old back then though. A presidential campaign that would realistically draw enough votes away from Romney in swing states is asking a bit too much of him at this point. I think in the next four years we will see his son (Rand) take up his mantel and possibility run for president in 2016.

But Rand's policies, while still batshiat crazy, are rather different from his father's.


I admit, I don't know as much about Rand's policies. From quickly looking at wikipedia it sounds like it favors eliminating the Federal Reserve, Department of education, wants to ban abortion and give states the right to legalize drugs. But is different from Ron on matters of Foreign Policy supporting trying accused terrorists at Guantanamo Bay.

I couldn't find a good site comparing the two of them do you know one?

Either way I think Ron knows his time is ending and his sons is just starting and wouldn't risk a presidential run.
 
2012-01-09 10:31:23 AM
www.alaska-in-pictures.com

I see the http://SS.Tenpoundsofcheese/ got their quota early today.
 
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