"It's okay when we do it." -GOP

Seeing as how the actual 'Obamacare' is largely based on Republican policies and suggestions, it's not surprising.

Well, given how many Reps went home and took credit for parts of Obamacare, it's not surprising that they would want to be able to take credit for all of it.

I'm guessing Rick Perry will be ok with this.

IOKIYAR

This is not a proposal. This is a list of things you want a proposal to do. Saying the desired result is NOT the same as proposing a way to get to that result.

(1) foster economic growth and private sector job creation by eliminating job-killing policies and regulations;

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(2) lower health care premiums through increased competition and choice;

(3) preserve a patient's ability to keep his or her health plan if he or she likes it;

(4) provide people with pre-existing conditions access to affordable health coverage;

(5) reform the medical liability system to reduce unnecessary and wasteful health care spending;

(6) increase the number of insured Americans;

(7) protect the doctor-patient relationship;

(8) provide the States greater flexibility to administer Medicaid programs;

(9) expand incentives to encourage personal responsibility for health care coverage and costs;

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(10) prohibit taxpayer funding of abortions and provide conscience protections for health care providers;

(11) eliminate duplicative government programs and wasteful spending; or

(12) do not accelerate the insolvency of entitlement programs or increase the tax burden on Americans.

So it's the 1994 Republican counterproposal to Clinton's health care proposal?

(10) prohibit taxpayer funding of abortions and provide conscience protections for health care providers

Force their morality onto everyone whether it is legal or not, and force big government and big religion into everyone's bedroom in the name of small government.

propasaurus: Seeing as how the actual 'Obamacare' is largely based on Republican policies and suggestions, it's not surprising.

I'm going to translate this for them...

IT WAS YOUR F*CKING IDEA AND YOU STILL VOTED AGAINST IT!

Because Kenyanism... or something.

They will regret ever calling it Obamacare.

Can we raise costs for smokers, drinkers, fatties, and the un-vaccinated? Can we allow states (or even better, Medicare itself) to negotiate prices for prescription drugs? Can we set up contingency plans (such as buying drugs from Canada if domestic manufacturers fail to deliver on their end of an established contract)? Can we accept that marijuana has SOME legitimate medical uses and everything do NOT need to be treated with narcotic-based chemical derivatives?

No?

Then piss off, Republicans.

MyRandomName: The only thing government should even be in is for Catastrophic Care, much like Gore ran on a decade ago.

Why? I fail to see why "a tree fell on me" is more worthy of being covered than "there's a tumor in my lung". I've never understood the distinction.

aselene: Serious Black: aselene: elchip: They call for covering people with pre-existing conditions. You can't realistically cover people with pre-existing conditions without a mandate. And you can't realistically have a mandate without subsidies. And then you end up with Obamacare.

Obamacare forces insurance companies not to discriminate against pre-existing conditions. The Republican resolution just encourages them not to.

In the same vein, Obamacare doesn't force people to have health insurance. It merely encourages them to not go uninsured.

Obamacare creates a penalty enforceable at law for those who opt out of health insurance. The Republican resolution doesn't use force at all. It offers real moral leadership instead.

o5iiawah: MrEricSir: You know what would kill fewer jobs? Take health care out of the job entirely and make it a universal right.

Healthcare is a service provided by doctors, nurses and drug companies

To say you are entitled to their labor by virtue of your existence is the basis of slavery.

This. Obama's plan = white slavery.

Exactly. All those doctors currently treating Medicare patients are nothing but slaves! SLAVES! Rand Paul? SLAVE!!

propasaurus: aselene: Serious Black: aselene: elchip: They call for covering people with pre-existing conditions. You can't realistically cover people with pre-existing conditions without a mandate. And you can't realistically have a mandate without subsidies. And then you end up with Obamacare.

Obamacare forces insurance companies not to discriminate against pre-existing conditions. The Republican resolution just encourages them not to.

In the same vein, Obamacare doesn't force people to have health insurance. It merely encourages them to not go uninsured.

Obamacare creates a penalty enforceable at law for those who opt out of health insurance. The Republican resolution doesn't use force at all. It offers real moral leadership instead.

o5iiawah: MrEricSir: You know what would kill fewer jobs? Take health care out of the job entirely and make it a universal right.

Healthcare is a service provided by doctors, nurses and drug companies

To say you are entitled to their labor by virtue of your existence is the basis of slavery.

This. Obama's plan = white slavery.

Exactly. All those doctors currently treating Medicare patients are nothing but slaves! SLAVES! Rand Paul? SLAVE!!

Public Defenders?? SLAVES!!!!

DamnYankees: MyRandomName: The only thing government should even be in is for Catastrophic Care, much like Gore ran on a decade ago.

Why? I fail to see why "a tree fell on me" is more worthy of being covered than "there's a tumor in my lung". I've never understood the distinction.

Those both fit the definition of catastrophic care.

Guidette Frankentits: You're right no one is, but when you make health care a universal right, that means you have to force an entity (doctors, nurses etc..) to have to fulfill that right regardless of the means for compensation.

So, like jury duty?