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bdub77
2012-01-08 06:15:50 PM
Yeah. That's not legal.
Par for the course in Florida, though.
real_headhoncho
2012-01-08 06:52:44 PM
gwydion56
2012-01-08 07:10:21 PM
What, you couldn't read the sign because we put a bag over it? Well, ignorance of the law is no excuse.
/And ignorance is an artform in Florida.
The First Four Black Sabbath Albums
2012-01-08 07:21:30 PM
fark the police
fark fark fark the police
Because the police like sex too
So have sex with the police
fark the police
feckingmorons
2012-01-08 07:22:34 PM
gwydion56
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What, you couldn't read the sign because we put a bag over it? Well, ignorance of the law is no excuse.
/And ignorance is an artform in Florida.
Non-compliance with MUTCD is however a defense. The signs must conform to the manual and putting bags over them is not in conformity.
Fight the ticket, show them pictures of the bagged signs.
Splish
2012-01-08 07:27:21 PM
But look how many people they're letting off with warnings! Can't you see how lenient they are?
Dead for Tax Reasons
2012-01-08 07:31:36 PM
It's a construction zone. Usually they cover up the regular speed limit signs and post construction zone signs and lower limits. If the construction limit is 45, why confuse with signs that say 55 too
Godscrack
2012-01-08 07:38:31 PM
They've been lowering speed limits, with new signs, around town here for the last month. People getting pulled over left and right.
It's gonna be an interesting year.
Ed Finnerty
2012-01-08 08:18:28 PM
The First Four Black Sabbath Albums
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fark the police
fark fark fark the police
Because the police like sex too
So have sex with the police
fark the police
namatad
2012-01-08 08:31:08 PM
Dead for Tax Reasons
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It's a construction zone. Usually they cover up the regular speed limit signs and post construction zone signs and lower limits. If the construction limit is 45, why confuse with signs that say 55 too
without another posted sign, what is the law?
a construction zone sign, without a speed limit sign, is pretty much a vague noticed at best that construction may be happening ... whatever
I guess without a sign, you can drive at whatever speed is safe for conditions.
/bwahahhahahahahahahahahaah
GAT_00
2012-01-08 08:51:05 PM
So, there are no posted speed signs and tickets are being written. Someone needs to sue the living fark out of the state of Florida.
Dead for Tax Reasons
2012-01-08 09:09:15 PM
namatad
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Dead for Tax Reasons: It's a construction zone. Usually they cover up the regular speed limit signs and post construction zone signs and lower limits. If the construction limit is 45, why confuse with signs that say 55 too
without another posted sign, what is the law?
a construction zone sign, without a speed limit sign, is pretty much a vague noticed at best that construction may be happening ... whatever
I guess without a sign, you can drive at whatever speed is safe for conditions.
/bwahahhahahahahahahahahaah
There usually are 'construction zone speed limit xx fines doubled' sort of signs. In this case I don't know what they put up
Teen Wolf Blitzer
2012-01-08 09:20:35 PM
bdub77
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Yeah. That's not legal.
Par for the course in Florida, though.
It's completely legal, numbnuts. Might wanna get a refund on your GED in law.
NoSugarAdded
2012-01-08 09:22:24 PM
All states (and some towns) have default speeds. E.g. "Welcome to the town of Dumbfark. Speed limit 30 unless otherwise posted"
just passing through
2012-01-08 09:22:43 PM
I don't need any help getting speeding tickets. I'm all over that.
oukewldave
2012-01-08 09:29:27 PM
All states (or is it national law) have laws that say if there is no speed limit posted, the default limit is xx. The tickets are just
a sweet money grab
for your safety.
vudukungfu
2012-01-08 09:29:29 PM
If my ex wants to have sex over the speed limit, she has to put a bag over her head.
So maybe that's a logical conclusion.
/my ex should not be having sex.
182
2012-01-08 09:29:40 PM
dick move
Teen Wolf Blitzer
2012-01-08 09:30:14 PM
vudukungfu
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If my ex wants to have sex over the speed limit, she has to put a bag over her head.
So maybe that's a logical conclusion.
/my ex should not be having sex.
My soon-to-be-ex is now wondering why I'm laughing my ass off.
culebra
2012-01-08 09:30:16 PM
Real Americans would have willed their eyes to see through the bags. Now they'll be getting sodomized in jail and it's their fault because they did crimes. Don't want to get buttsexed? Don't do a crime!
Teen Wolf Blitzer
2012-01-08 09:32:05 PM
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dick move
Yes, it's a dick move to NOT allow people to drive 55 in proximity to construction workers. They're just minimum-wage Mexicans anyway, right? Who cares if they get hit and killed, you have to get your precious snowflake to youth soccer, right!?!?
drkdstryer
2012-01-08 09:36:11 PM
NoSugarAdded
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All states (and some towns) have default speeds. E.g. "Welcome to the town of Dumbfark. Speed limit 30 unless otherwise posted"
I have never seen such a sigh in PA, OH, or WV, or in any town I've driven to.
Teen Wolf Blitzer
2012-01-08 09:37:18 PM
drkdstryer
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NoSugarAdded: All states (and some towns) have default speeds. E.g. "Welcome to the town of Dumbfark. Speed limit 30 unless otherwise posted"
I have never seen such a sigh in PA, OH, or WV, or in any town I've driven to.
It's usually not posted. It's just a local default.
lewismarktwo
2012-01-08 09:37:20 PM
Teen Wolf Blitzer
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182: dick move
Yes, it's a dick move to NOT allow people to drive 55 in proximity to construction workers. They're just minimum-wage Mexicans anyway, right? Who cares if they get hit and killed, you have to get your precious snowflake to youth soccer, right!?!?
I know highway workers get hit more than they should but is it really the speed of the cars that causes most of those accidents?
Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich
2012-01-08 09:37:21 PM
gwydion56
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What, you couldn't read the sign because we put a bag over it?
You can reverse engineer the street - measure the dimensions, figure out the traffic flow, and look at the streets around it, and then consult with the state DoT guidelines to determine what the range of speed limits is, and then pick the lowest one. If you can't be bothered to spend a few hours doing basic civil engineering research before getting on a road, well, there is just no helping you.
182
2012-01-08 09:44:22 PM
Teen Wolf Blitzer
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182: dick move
Yes, it's a dick move to NOT allow people to drive 55 in proximity to construction workers. They're just minimum-wage Mexicans anyway, right? Who cares if they get hit and killed, you have to get your precious snowflake to youth soccer, right!?!?
lolwut....get back on the jackhammer, skippy.
vudukungfu
2012-01-08 09:46:24 PM
Teen Wolf Blitzer
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My soon-to-be-ex is now wondering why I'm laughing my ass off.
Laughing with you
not at you.
Mugato
2012-01-08 09:48:25 PM
bdub77
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Yeah. That's not legal.
Par for the course in Florida, though.
This is hardly unique to Florida.
The_Original_Roxtar
2012-01-08 09:49:01 PM
Teen Wolf Blitzer
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182: dick move
Yes, it's a dick move to NOT allow people to drive 55 in proximity to construction workers. They're just minimum-wage Mexicans anyway, right? Who cares if they get hit and killed, you have to get your precious snowflake to youth soccer, right!?!?
get your nationalities right. they're in florida, so they're cuban!
plus, we all know that road crews don't actually do anything. (most of the time)
drkdstryer
2012-01-08 09:49:26 PM
Teen Wolf Blitzer
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It's usually not posted.
Which is very possibly all the drivers in this thread are upset.
culebra
2012-01-08 09:49:43 PM
182
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Teen Wolf Blitzer: 182: dick move
Yes, it's a dick move to NOT allow people to drive 55 in proximity to construction workers. They're just minimum-wage Mexicans anyway, right? Who cares if they get hit and killed, you have to get your precious snowflake to youth soccer, right!?!?
lolwut....get back on the jackhammer, skippy.
cmb53208
2012-01-08 09:51:36 PM
drkdstryer
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NoSugarAdded: All states (and some towns) have default speeds. E.g. "Welcome to the town of Dumbfark. Speed limit 30 unless otherwise posted"
I have never seen such a sigh in PA, OH, or WV, or in any town I've driven to.
I've seen those signs in North Carolina, nowhere else though.
Cerebral Knievel
2012-01-08 09:59:42 PM
I believe that here in Virginia, that if its a construction zone on a highway, the default is 45 mph, unless otherwise posted, non highway? 25, unless otherwise posted. and either is well coned off for a half mile in either direction, with a trooper idling there with lights on waiting for someone to mess up.
anywhere else in the country? unless it is the high dessert, I'm assuming the speed limit is 65mph on a interstate and 55 in urban areas.
this shouldn't be too hard to figure out.
now, I will admit that I have not read the article yet.. if the great state of Florida was just randomly bagging signs and pulling folks over arbitrarily.. then yes.. fark 'em. but, as said before, ignorance of the law is a defense against the law... citizen. you will pay your fine and go about your day.
Cerebral Knievel
2012-01-08 10:01:21 PM
Not a defense...
dang Friday night beers....
Teen Wolf Blitzer
2012-01-08 10:02:08 PM
Cerebral Knievel
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I believe that here in Virginia, that if its a construction zone on a highway, the default is 45 mph, unless otherwise posted, non highway? 25, unless otherwise posted. and either is well coned off for a half mile in either direction, with a trooper idling there with lights on waiting for someone to mess up.
anywhere else in the country? unless it is the high dessert, I'm assuming the speed limit is 65mph on a interstate and 55 in urban areas.
this shouldn't be too hard to figure out.
now, I will admit that I have not read the article yet.. if the great state of Florida was just randomly bagging signs and pulling folks over arbitrarily.. then yes.. fark 'em. but, as said before, ignorance of the law is a defense against the law... citizen. you will pay your fine and go about your day.
I've been through that zone. They have temporary speed limit signs up on the "Construction Zone - Men Working" signs. The "regular" speed limit signs are bagged, but there ARE speed limit signs posted.
DarkBowser100
2012-01-08 10:07:00 PM
A speed limit sign covered in a plastic bag is just about as useful as this sign:
GizmoToy
2012-01-08 10:07:46 PM
Here in Ohio, any unmarked state route (important distinction, local roads don't count) has a speed limit of 55. There's some ridiculous psuedo-legal guideline for determining "unmarked" that involves counting telephone poles. Which probably makes no difference whatsoever, because I'd guess less than 10% of the population is actually aware of this default. Unmarked routes get speed limit signs really quickly after someone going 55 hits someone who is going 30 because they can't figure out the speed limit.
However, covering speed limit signs with bags and then not replacing them with a revised sign is BS. Nice work, Florida!
i.r.id10t
2012-01-08 10:08:37 PM
Seen the "default limit is..." sign at colleges only.
IIRC from my drivers ed class many moons ago here in Fl. default for residential is 30, everywhere else is 35 or 45 for major thru way. If major thru way has lots of traffic and stop lights, back down to 45.
And, according to a buddy who is a LEO (not a cop, an officer of the law - he's one of the 1%) anything less than 6 over is a warning anyway, they can't write a ticket for a fine, just a warning. So when in doubt, 35 to 40 won't get ya in trouble....
cheetahsaresexy
2012-01-08 10:11:22 PM
They do this quite regularly just about everywhere in New Mexico
jeblis
2012-01-08 10:13:33 PM
I feel naked driving without it.
9beers
2012-01-08 10:13:50 PM
Dead for Tax Reasons
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It's a construction zone. Usually they cover up the regular speed limit signs and post construction zone signs and lower limits. If the construction limit is 45, why confuse with signs that say 55 too
No that can't be it, this is a farking conspiracy by the pigs to deprive us of our rights.
MarkEC
2012-01-08 10:13:51 PM
Teen Wolf Blitzer
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drkdstryer: NoSugarAdded: All states (and some towns) have default speeds. E.g. "Welcome to the town of Dumbfark. Speed limit 30 unless otherwise posted"
I have never seen such a sigh in PA, OH, or WV, or in any town I've driven to.
It's usually not posted. It's just a local default.
PA law is 55 unless otherwise posted. They do have the sign, but only in a few places.
bmr68
2012-01-08 10:14:28 PM
In Texas the speed limit is 30mph if no sign is posted/present. Many states have similar laws on the books.
Goodfella
2012-01-08 10:16:13 PM
"But after a tip from a viewer, the 10 News Investigators discovered FDOT was covering speed limit signs with plastic bags -- an apparent violation of federal guidelines"
There's a few attorneys in Florida who are going to be paying their mortgages for the next few months because of these clowns.
Too bad its the taxpayers that have to pay for the corruption of the State Patrol. Hopefully those responsible are fired.
knifeyspoony
2012-01-08 10:17:57 PM
They do the same thing with the speed limit signs at Guantanamo!
xl5150
2012-01-08 10:18:52 PM
What's the big deal? If you don't have enough common sense to know what the speed limit is in a construction zone without a sign to hold your hand and tell you, then you deserve the ticket you get in principle alone.
Dick Fitzwell
2012-01-08 10:19:30 PM
182
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dick move
I have every right to be here as much as you do.
ragnarok
2012-01-08 10:21:38 PM
Florida speed limits are set by using the 85th Percentile method - setup a radar gun, clock people for a week, set the speed limit to a value that covers 85% of drivers traveling on the road (not to exceed the maximum speed allowed by law).
/ Florida transit bus driver
// 25 MPH unless otherwise posted
/// What they're doing is perfectly legal under Florida law
Sabyen91
2012-01-08 10:23:24 PM
xl5150
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What's the big deal? If you don't have enough common sense to know what the speed limit is in a construction zone without a sign to hold your hand and tell you, then you deserve the ticket you get in principle alone.
Depends, is it a clearly marked construction zone? Is the construction zone active? In many places they will still have the barrels but at night it reverts back to its normal speed limit. For those that say "unless otherwise posted" how far back was the last posted sign?
/I don't think I can make the call without more information. Glad everybody else can.
jeblis
2012-01-08 10:23:43 PM
ragnarok
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/// What they're doing is perfectly legal under Florida law
an apparent violation of federal guidelines
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