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Stop me if you've heard this one before: Fan makes half-court shot, sponsor doesn't want to pay
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Sliding Carp
2012-01-08 06:40:53 PM
downstairs
2012-01-08 06:53:10 PM
Aren't these contests generally insured? You pay a premium (non-refundable) and if the person achieves whatever he/she needs to, to get the million dollars (or whatever)... the insurance company pays. Otherwise they just keep your premium and that's that.
ha-ha-guy
2012-01-08 07:21:55 PM
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Aren't these contests generally insured? You pay a premium (non-refundable) and if the person achieves whatever he/she needs to, to get the million dollars (or whatever)... the insurance company pays. Otherwise they just keep your premium and that's that.
For 10k, I'm betting a company like Kroger (net income 1.25 billion in 2009), I'd imagine they self insure on stuff like that. It's only the smaller guys, like the guys raffling off cars or something that buy the insurance typically.
starlost
2012-01-08 07:22:09 PM
Aren't these contests generally insured? You pay a premium (non-refundable) and if the person achieves whatever he/she needs to, to get the million dollars (or whatever)... the insurance company pays. Otherwise they just keep your premium and that's that.
the insurance company doesn't want to pay because he is clearly over the line. the supermarket will probably have to suck it up and pay if the publicity gets bad enough.
9beers
2012-01-08 07:23:10 PM
I read yesterday that they're going to pay.
a sharp nail
2012-01-08 07:24:25 PM
They're not paying because the guy is black, and everyone knows black people are good at basketball.
animesucks
2012-01-08 07:31:36 PM
HE WAS OVER THE LINE!!!
basemetal
2012-01-08 07:32:59 PM
Was he or was he not on the line and was this a rule?
/meh,
Representative of the unwashed masses
2012-01-08 07:33:25 PM
a sharp nail
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They're not paying because the guy is black, and everyone knows black people are good at basketball.
They may as well give him the money, he'll be coming in the store for it sooner or later anyways.
How was that one?
/Also how is he supposed to know where the line is? If they want to be that picky about it then they better extend the center line all the way across.
7th Son of a 7th Son
2012-01-08 07:40:53 PM
I think it's like the 3 point line; if your feet are behind it the ball doesn't have to be when the shot is taken. *shrug*
Farty McPooPants
2012-01-08 07:51:05 PM
Knows that feel...
Peki
2012-01-08 07:55:33 PM
7th Son of a 7th Son
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I think it's like the 3 point line; if your feet are behind it the ball doesn't have to be when the shot is taken. *shrug*
I think the argument can be legitimately made that he was over the line. It's just a dickish move. One of those cases where they might be legally right, but definitely not morally right.
/ffs the 10K might mean a degree for this kid; stfu and shell out
Robert1966
2012-01-08 08:05:17 PM
Stop. I've heard this one before.
MBK
2012-01-08 08:05:22 PM
Peki
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I think the argument can be legitimately made that he was over the line. It's just a dickish move. One of those cases where they might be legally right, but definitely not morally right.
/ffs the 10K might mean a degree for this kid; stfu and shell out
In the pic, it didn't seem like they marked "midcourt" with a piece of tape or anything. The logo hides the center line, so I would argue that they didn't show where the kid couldn't cross.
Plus, it is 10k. The bad publicity will cost 10k, the good publicity will make more than 10k. Bad Kroger is Bad.
LemSkroob
2012-01-08 08:13:40 PM
Funny, i don't see a "half court line" i see a giant KU logo.
treecologist
2012-01-08 08:20:51 PM
Article says Kroger will pay him.
Nice job Subby.
revoltingdevelopment
2012-01-08 08:27:32 PM
Action affirmed--this time. Kid still has a ways to go before learning that rules have meaning.
0Icky0
2012-01-08 08:37:22 PM
animesucks
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HE WAS OVER THE LINE!!!
Over the line hell. What about the travelling before the shot?
ChrisDe
2012-01-08 08:37:34 PM
LemSkroob
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Funny, i don't see a "half court line" i see a giant KU logo.
This. No line, no foul. And the still photo is not taken straight down the halfcourt line anyway, it's out in front and creating a viewing angle.
SharkTrager
2012-01-08 08:42:19 PM
treecologist
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Article says Kroger will pay him.
Nice job Subby.
Hell, they called an hour after the game and said they'd pay. Wanna bet most of the "protests" came after Kroger had already made their decision?
the_vegetarian_cannibal
2012-01-08 08:52:59 PM
LemSkroob
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Funny, i don't see a "half court line" i see a giant KU logo.
Uh, KU is Kansas.
varmitydog
2012-01-08 09:23:13 PM
Two Wildcats fans made #OccupyKroger signs and stood with them in front of the Kroger in Ashland, Kent
Now there' s an Occupy movement I can get behind. Let's occupy the beer cooler first.
Adolph Oliver Bush
2012-01-08 09:46:36 PM
He shouldn't get a damn thing...he was definitely over the line when he released the ball.
MagSeven
2012-01-08 09:50:07 PM
Watch the vid and you should see the controversy. There is a line, but it is black through the logo. His toes were over when he shot. It should count though because the line is pretty obscured and not clearly marked for the contest.
Fade2black
2012-01-08 10:36:19 PM
I'm a rules are rules kinda guy...but when a 1.2 billion company is only putting up 10k, I mean, come on....he might've been what, an inch over? Based on like, 30 feet? 40? At this point it's just sublantics. Pay the kid so he gets his early start on being a drug dealer.
/going to hell, I know.
The Gentleman Caller
2012-01-08 10:52:32 PM
He was over the line? prove it.
Debeo Summa Credo
2012-01-08 11:05:52 PM
ChrisDe
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LemSkroob: Funny, i don't see a "half court line" i see a giant KU logo.
This. No line, no foul. And the still photo is not taken straight down the halfcourt line anyway, it's out in front and creating a viewing angle.
Bullshiat. When the refs watch for backfired violations or ten second violations there is a line that bisects the court even if there's a logo. This kid clearly crossed it. Kroger will pay, but it's out of generosity/expediency.
The_Sponge
2012-01-08 11:12:47 PM
Sliding Carp
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SevenizGud
2012-01-08 11:57:39 PM
What was the contest rule? There is no halfcourt line painted in white, but you can see the edges of the line painted in black, if you look closely. He was clearly ON the line, if not over. But I can't tell if he was over. So what was the contest rule? If it says "behind the line" then he doesn't deserve the money.
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2012-01-09 01:01:07 AM
Peki
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7th Son of a 7th Son: I think it's like the 3 point line; if your feet are behind it the ball doesn't have to be when the shot is taken. *shrug*
I think the argument can be legitimately made that he was over the line. It's just a dickish move. One of those cases where they might be legally right, but definitely not morally right.
/ffs the 10K might mean a degree for this kid; stfu and shell out
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DrBenway
2012-01-09 04:34:35 AM
A lot of real classy comments on that page, I see. Special people saying special things...
WinoRhino
2012-01-09 07:02:21 AM
1. The line is obscured by the logo.
2. The contestant seems to be making the shot extremely close to the line.
3. If they require the shot to be taken from a specific spot,they need to be sure the spot is visible.
Ordinarily I would side with the sponsor and yell about how "Close enough" is not what we should be striving for. Rules are rules, etc. But this is dumb. Glad they're paying up.
You Are All Sheep
2012-01-09 08:34:06 AM
If it was a white guy they wouldn't have paid.
does that fix things?
AliceBToklasLives
2012-01-09 09:54:25 AM
Of course they are paying because the point of being a sponsor is to promote your product and make it look good. Poor PR to even question the shot.
/+ the KU logo did obscure the 1/2 court line
muwaryer
2012-01-09 10:19:54 AM
This sucks for Kroger because that article doesn't even say that they ever even considered not paying this kid. FTA: "
One of the organizers of the contest
approached Swope
in the midst of his celebration
with a copy of the contract he'd signed and a video replay of the shot. The man
intimated
to Swope that the supermarket chain Kroger
might
not be willing to pay the $10,000 since Swope appeared to take the shot a few inches beyond the mid-court stripe.
"
The people that run those contests during the game are typically employed by either the arena or the university. That article makes it sound like immediately after the shot went in one of the guys running the contest speculated that Kroger "might" not be willing to pay because he was over the line.
If that's how it went down, if I'm the Kroger's marketing/PR guy who agreed to sponsor the contest, my response to UK is, "Thanks a lot for the unnecessary bad publicity, asshole. Next time you want to tell someone that we might not pay him his price, check with us first...mmmm kay?!"
Swoop1809
2012-01-09 10:22:44 AM
Go Reds. Go Krogering
muwaryer
2012-01-09 10:49:27 AM
muwaryer
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This sucks for Kroger because that article doesn't even say that they ever even considered not paying this kid. FTA: "One of the organizers of the contest approached Swope in the midst of his celebration with a copy of the contract he'd signed and a video replay of the shot. The man intimated to Swope that the supermarket chain Kroger might not be willing to pay the $10,000 since Swope appeared to take the shot a few inches beyond the mid-court stripe."
The people that run those contests during the game are typically employed by either the arena or the university. That article makes it sound like immediately after the shot went in one of the guys running the contest speculated that Kroger "might" not be willing to pay because he was over the line.
If that's how it went down, if I'm the Kroger's marketing/PR guy who agreed to sponsor the contest, my response to UK is, "Thanks a lot for the unnecessary bad publicity, asshole. Next time you want to tell someone that we might not pay him his
price
prize
, check with us first...mmmm kay?!"
FTFM
Bschott007
2012-01-09 01:22:15 PM
Sliding Carp
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One and Done.
T.rex
2012-01-09 03:21:08 PM
Forget the line... in my view, he didn't even make the shot!
IAmRight
2012-01-09 06:49:37 PM
WinoRhino
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3. If they require the shot to be taken from a specific spot,they need to be sure the spot is visible.
Since when are half-court shots so strictly monitored? No one has ever cared about whether toes are on the line in a half-court shot contest ever. As long as he didn't take a giant step after hitting the line, then shoot, it's no biggie. And he didn't.
/half-court has pretty much always meant "in the general vicinity of the half-court line"
muwaryer
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If that's how it went down, if I'm the Kroger's marketing/PR guy who agreed to sponsor the contest, my response to UK is, "Thanks a lot for the unnecessary bad publicity, asshole. Next time you want to tell someone that we might not pay him his price, check with us first...mmmm kay?!"
I'd consider demanding more sponsorship benefits/threaten to pull sponsorship.
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