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(Some Guy)   In the United States, there are more raped women than smokers of both genders. In other news, there has been a significant increase of apple tree growth, but the shortage of oranges continues   (significancemagazine.org) divider line 595
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2012-01-08 05:17:38 PM

HighZoolander: second


I like to go to the bar and force the waitress to watch me rape someone. I can't believe they won't let me do that at restaurant anymore.
 
2012-01-08 05:18:03 PM
Wait...so you're saying that a person with power over another has an increased tendency to take advantage of said person?

Welcome to Erf. (punches alien)
 
2012-01-08 05:20:02 PM

Theaetetus: Lanctwa: Also, a response rate of 27.5% is an amazing response rate, why does this article state underwhelming?

Check the next sentence:
"Although this rate is actually better than average for national telephone surveys, it still raises that question of whether the experience of sexual violence, stalking, and intimate partner violence is different among those Americans in the 72.5% of the sample who were either away from their phone or who looked at the unknown number coming in and chose not to answer."


So, having a great response rate, means that everyone else is terrified of rape?

Also, anything over 15% of a response rate typically means you have a good enough for statistical analysis. It couldn't be due to a decent number of robocalls?


I looked at the main report, and read it. They did do research on males too. They estimate 1 out of 7 men have been raped by women using the same standards.
 
2012-01-08 05:20:07 PM

doloresonthedottedline: Not a rapist, but not anti-rape. The idea they're trying to get across is that if you aren't actively working toward change (with a lot of those points describing people who are supporting the culture that leads to women being attacked), you're part of the problem.


I understand the point she's making, but it's bullshiat. People are raped because other people want to control and dominate them, not because of the things on this list.

Saying "if you've ever watched porn you support rape" is just as foolish as saying "If you don't cover yourself from head to toe, men can't control themselves an will rape you".

You are a rapist if you rape someone. You support rape if you support someone who rapes someone.

Joe Paterno is a rape supporter. Some guy at a strip club is not.
 
2012-01-08 05:20:23 PM

Theaetetus: cowgirl toffee: I have tried to give up rape, but every time I keep hearing a voice in the back of my head telling me "why don't you just do one more rape? You are in control... you can stop at any time."

It's at that point, after I do one rape... I have to finish a whole pack of rapes.

[teenangster.net image 537x700]


img832.imageshack.us

Exactly. :P
 
2012-01-08 05:22:34 PM
Has the federal definition of "rape" changed to include "Women who got buyer's remorse the next day"? Because if not, I call bullshiat.
 
2012-01-08 05:24:04 PM

Medical Toilet: Has the federal definition of "rape" changed to include "Women who got buyer's remorse the next day"? Because if not, I call bullshiat.


QFT
 
2012-01-08 05:24:34 PM

BackAssward: HighZoolander: second

I like to go to the bar and force the waitress to watch me rape someone. I can't believe they won't let me do that at restaurant anymore.


Well, were you in the raping or no-raping section?
 
2012-01-08 05:24:58 PM

Rincewind53: GAT_00: Rincewind53: The fact that you see that link as representative of all feminism indicates a lack of desire to actually engage with the subject or actually start reading feminist literature and seeing that there is not such thing as a monolithic "feminist" movement.

I've seen quite a bit of material like that link. Don't try to pretend that kind of thought is unique, it isn't, or anywhere close to it.

A "man-hating" kind of thought that thinks that women are the superior gender? Well, no, I don't think it's unique. I also don't think it's what is represented in that link, or that it represents mainstream feminism at all. The more modern third-wave feminism specifically attacked that perception, and much of the modern movement doesn't embrace the idea of gender superiority either.

cman: You forgot that the Tea Party is the exception -- all of its members are racist

I don't think that either. Just most of them, subconsciously or consciously.


"Gender superiority" feminism, in the literal sense of that term, has never really been more than fringe, if that. About the closest I can think of that resembles that and isn't part of a fringe new age "goddess power" bit of ridiculousness is that some feminists seem to think women make better leaders? But they think that for the same reason that it's best to distribute supplies to the women in disaster areas: society demands that women be responsible for care taking, and that role tends to make us more intimately aware of certain issues. Change the roles assigned to gender and that won't be the case.

There's also seperatism, but that isn't so much hating men as opting out. When you spend so much time fighting against the systematic oppression of women, at a certain point you just can't handle coming home to a dude that pats you in the head, calls you babe, and asks when dinner will be ready.
 
2012-01-08 05:24:59 PM

lazyguineapig33: will someone here provide a definition of rape plz? the article is incredibly vague.

"defined as unwanted completed or attempted sexual penetration, including victims who did not have the capacity to give consent"


When I was doing my research (dissertation, which I milked for a few publications), I defined it as being forced to engage in sex when you didn't want to, and/or having sex when you didn't want to, but you were so intoxicated that you couldn't give or refuse consent. It's in line with most statutes.
 
2012-01-08 05:25:05 PM
Drink and drive: blight on society
Drink and fark: rape victim
 
2012-01-08 05:25:23 PM
Sometimes I wish I could find someone to rape but I'm not very attractive so I stay home and rape myself.
 
2012-01-08 05:25:30 PM
Yep, awfully reddity up in this thread.
 
2012-01-08 05:26:59 PM

Medical Toilet: Has the federal definition of "rape" changed to include "Women who got buyer's Seller's remorse the next day"? Because if not, I call bullshiat.



FTFY
 
2012-01-08 05:28:15 PM
farm7.staticflickr.com

Clearly she's asking for it.
 
2012-01-08 05:28:23 PM
upload.wikimedia.org

Great Grape Ape
Great Grape Ape
Great Grape Ape
 
2012-01-08 05:28:41 PM
"If she smokes, she pokes"

soooo... if I'm reading this correctly avoid teenage girls who smoke because they will anally rape you... with their penis.
 
2012-01-08 05:28:57 PM

dahmers love zombie: lazyguineapig33: will someone here provide a definition of rape plz? the article is incredibly vague.

"defined as unwanted completed or attempted sexual penetration, including victims who did not have the capacity to give consent"

When I was doing my research (dissertation, which I milked for a few publications), I defined it as being forced to engage in sex when you didn't want to, and/or having sex when you didn't want to, but you were so intoxicated that you couldn't give or refuse consent. It's in line with most statutes.


ok, so i have often read that sex with someone that is not concious or otherwise incapacitated is rape. So when my GF gives me a BJ while im alseep, does that count as rape?
 
2012-01-08 05:29:04 PM
Having worked in both environments (highly male and highly female).... having worked for several male bosses and several female bosses....Having been raised almost exclusively by my mother who was a feminist.

I love my female bosses... my two favorite bosses have been female.... but with that said... I'd much rather have male co-workers... as the female co-workers that I have had, are a lot more likely to stir the pot, creating emotionally unstable working environment... and tend to make emotional decisions... as opposed to logical ones.
 
2012-01-08 05:29:40 PM

Lanctwa: Theaetetus: Lanctwa: Also, a response rate of 27.5% is an amazing response rate, why does this article state underwhelming?

Check the next sentence:
"Although this rate is actually better than average for national telephone surveys, it still raises that question of whether the experience of sexual violence, stalking, and intimate partner violence is different among those Americans in the 72.5% of the sample who were either away from their phone or who looked at the unknown number coming in and chose not to answer."

So, having a great response rate, means that everyone else is terrified of rape?


wat?

No, it means that a sample rate of 27.5% may lead to the wrong conclusions when extrapolated to the 72.5% who were either away or don't take calls from "unknown".

"Terrified of rape"? WTF are you talking about?
 
2012-01-08 05:30:14 PM

BackAssward: [farm7.staticflickr.com image 512x640]

Clearly she's asking for it.


img62.imageshack.us

Well... go get her, tiger. :P
 
2012-01-08 05:31:54 PM

One Bad Apple: Medical Toilet: Has the federal definition of "rape" changed to include "Women who got buyer's Seller's remorse the next day"? Because if not, I call bullshiat.


FTFY


Go f*ck yourself.
 
2012-01-08 05:33:34 PM
czarangelus how I miss your threads
 
2012-01-08 05:35:09 PM

lazyguineapig33: dahmers love zombie: lazyguineapig33: will someone here provide a definition of rape plz? the article is incredibly vague.

"defined as unwanted completed or attempted sexual penetration, including victims who did not have the capacity to give consent"

When I was doing my research (dissertation, which I milked for a few publications), I defined it as being forced to engage in sex when you didn't want to, and/or having sex when you didn't want to, but you were so intoxicated that you couldn't give or refuse consent. It's in line with most statutes.

ok, so i have often read that sex with someone that is not concious or otherwise incapacitated is rape. So when my GF gives me a BJ while im alseep, does that count as rape?


Hmm. Do you wake up and stop her? Do you wake up, say "Stop", and she doesn't stop? Do you sleep through the whole thing? I think the answer would depend.
 
2012-01-08 05:36:00 PM

what_now: There was something going around the tubes recently that was saying that any man who had ever had sex with a woman who had one drink was a rapist, any man who ever had sex with a woman who was tied up was a rapist, any man who had ever watched porn was a rapist, any man who is anti abortion is a rapist, any man who has ever NOT been attracted to a woman because of her physical appearance....is a rapist.

Oh, here it is. It's lovely: Link (new window)



"He ever subordinates the interests of women in a given population to the interests of the men in that population, or proceeds in discussions as if the interests of the women are the same as the interests of the men."

Do you have an opinion about prostate or testicular cancer? You support rape.

What has to happen to someone for them to become that cynical and misanthropic?
=Smidge=
 
2012-01-08 05:36:34 PM

murdoch's_weeners: The man-haters don't outnumber people like me; they're just louder.


This is the same argument that is usually made that the evangelicals don't actually outnumber the sane religious people, they're just louder. I refute that there, and it would be illogical to not do the same here.

And yes, I do have a problem with modern feminism. I would like to thank you for not implying that I want inequality, as many people often do. That isn't even a question that equality should exist, and I guess that's why I don't see that as feminism, not anymore. That's what feminism used to need to be. It isn't that way anymore. Equality is simply the way it is supposed to be.

I see feminism as that link. Equality simply should be, it shouldn't be some kind of group or method or alignment.
 
2012-01-08 05:39:03 PM
A violent, sexually repressed society that paradoxically objectifies and commodifies sex has a problem with rape?

I'm shocked. No, really.
 
2012-01-08 05:39:08 PM

Aarontology: Or they were trying to give a comparison of numbers to make it easier for people to comprehend.

But apparently that's too difficult for subby to understand, being stupid and all.


Came here to say this. Thanks for taking care of that.
 
2012-01-08 05:39:09 PM
I wish I had been raped a few more times as a youth.
The older woman thing was great.
Now I'm their age and they're still great.

/Men didn't get raped until a couple weeks ago.
//Obama made it so men get raped now. Nice work FARTBONGO!.
 
2012-01-08 05:39:27 PM

dahmers love zombie: lazyguineapig33: dahmers love zombie: lazyguineapig33: will someone here provide a definition of rape plz? the article is incredibly vague.

"defined as unwanted completed or attempted sexual penetration, including victims who did not have the capacity to give consent"

When I was doing my research (dissertation, which I milked for a few publications), I defined it as being forced to engage in sex when you didn't want to, and/or having sex when you didn't want to, but you were so intoxicated that you couldn't give or refuse consent. It's in line with most statutes.

ok, so i have often read that sex with someone that is not concious or otherwise incapacitated is rape. So when my GF gives me a BJ while im alseep, does that count as rape?

Hmm. Do you wake up and stop her? Do you wake up, say "Stop", and she doesn't stop? Do you sleep through the whole thing? I think the answer would depend.


I'd bet he was yelling, "DON'T STOP" "DON'T STOP" the whole time.
Damn... another rape victim.
 
2012-01-08 05:41:15 PM

dahmers love zombie:

ok, so i have often read that sex with someone that is not concious or otherwise incapacitated is rape. So when my GF gives me a BJ while im alseep, does that count as rape?

Hmm. Do you wake up and stop her? Do you wake up, say "Stop", and she doesn't stop? Do you sleep through the whole thing? I think the answer would depend.


the way that i read many of these definitions, it doesnt matter if i wanted it or not. i was incapable of saying no, therefore rape?
 
2012-01-08 05:42:12 PM
Question: what if you're both drunk? Does that cancel out the "rape" or is that the literal, real-life description of rape-rape.
 
2012-01-08 05:42:16 PM

doloresonthedottedline: And yes, calling a man pro-rape for meeting some of the criteria on that list is extreme, but it isn't out of hate for men. The point of the extreme language is to try and get people to realize that a lot of seemingly harmless aspects of our society help normalize a culture where women are attacked.


Sorry, but that's apologist bullshiat. It IS hate for men. I can believe the author really legitimately doesn't think of herself as a bigot, but she is. She's laying every single incredibly tenuous connection she can at the feet of men, and men alone, and saying "this means you support rape".

It is nothing more than a gender-reversed and long-winded way of saying "she was asking for it". It's all bullshiat. Just like no women were ACTUALLY asking for rape, no men who did any of the things in that list were ACTUALLY supporting rape.

It's bullshiat gender bigotry. Plain and simple.

Women never "ask for it". But men never "support rape" by the exact same logic and justifications. if you're going to use any of that bullshiat to state the majority of men "support rape", then my bullshiat response is going to be, "well, she was asking for it". And we're both equally justified.

By which I mean we're both being retarded bigots.


Also see this (NSFW language);
Link
(new window)
 
2012-01-08 05:43:13 PM
it has never been easier to consensus the male/female attendance on fark
 
2012-01-08 05:43:24 PM

downstairs: Question: what if you're both drunk? Does that cancel out the "rape" or is that the literal, real-life description of rape-rape.


It's rape by the current legal definition.
 
2012-01-08 05:43:33 PM

cowgirl toffee: I have tried to give up rape, but every time I keep hearing a voice in the back of my head telling me "why don't you just do one more rape? You are in control... you can stop at any time."

It's at that point, after I do one rape... I have to finish a whole pack of rapes.


I have the same problem with girl scout cookies.
 
2012-01-08 05:43:54 PM

Lanctwa: Why isn't someone using the exact same definitions for rape to measure % of men who are raped?

I'd be willing to bet it's fairly high.


Also, a response rate of 27.5% is an amazing response rate, why does this article state underwhelming?


They were hoping for 69
 
2012-01-08 05:45:12 PM

downstairs: Question: what if you're both drunk? Does that cancel out the "rape" or is that the literal, real-life description of rape-rape.


i always wondered that. my GF and me rape each other every week by that definition.
 
2012-01-08 05:46:08 PM
clintoman

What's in the box? WHAAAT'S IN THE BOOOX?!?!
 
2012-01-08 05:46:19 PM
The United States human beings is are experiencing an epidemic of sexual violence that has been going on since the beginning of them existing as a species.

Now that we're all advanced and everything, let's put a halt to it and other horrors.
 
2012-01-08 05:46:41 PM

what_now: my link failed, because my link is a rapist:
Link (new window)


holy crap
that was both disturbing and entertaining

dumbass says what????
lady, I guess that means that you dont ever need to worry about sleeping with a man then. because your crazy list includes every single man on the planet.

Could you do the world a favor and wear a button that says "every man is a rapist"?
Pretty please ???
This way we can just avoid you like that batshiat crazy wackjob that you are.

Keep in mind, it also means that your father, brothers, uncles, grand parents and every male relative is a rapist. Have you reported them to the police yet? or told them that you think of them as rapists? really???
why not??
 
2012-01-08 05:46:54 PM

kidsizedcoffin: cowgirl toffee: I have tried to give up rape, but every time I keep hearing a voice in the back of my head telling me "why don't you just do one more rape? You are in control... you can stop at any time."

It's at that point, after I do one rape... I have to finish a whole pack of rapes.

I have the same problem with girl scout cookies.


You raped a whole pack of Girl Scouts selling cookies?! O_O
 
2012-01-08 05:48:50 PM
From experience I've found it a lot easier to give up smoking than raping. There is no rape patch or rape gum.
 
2012-01-08 05:49:38 PM

GAT_00: And yes, I do have a problem with modern feminism. I would like to thank you for not implying that I want inequality, as many people often do. That isn't even a question that equality should exist, and I guess that's why I don't see that as feminism, not anymore. That's what feminism used to need to be. It isn't that way anymore. Equality is simply the way it is supposed to be.


I'm not a feminist. I absolutely refuse to use that term.

However, I'm also absolutely for gender equality. But that goes both ways. The world isn't as fair as it should be, to either gender, and the discrepancies, both ways, need to be looked at and improved on.

I see feminism as the other side of the coin of masculinism. Sure, you never hear anyone use that term. Because trying to only promote men's rights at the expense of women's rights would be a ridiculous idea, and society is too aware of women's rights these days to accept that. We seem to allow it for women, though, because they had fewer rights (and obligations) for so long. It's time for that to end. Nobody should be a feminist any more. The genders are on basically even footing. There are inconsistencies, but they go both ways. If you're for gender equality, then be for gender equality. Both of them. There's two genders. Focusing on one and only one means you're actively ignoring the other, and therefore your actions could lead to impacting negatively on the other gender. Some fringe man-hating feminists see that and think "hells yeah". There's some wacko "men's rights" types too who want to return to the glory days where women stayed in the kitchen and got slapped for talking back. Both are equally nuts and bigoted.

So if you're a woman, and you self-identify as a "feminist", and those man-hating types disgust you because they're for women's rights at the expense of men's, rather than gender equality, please, drop the "feminist" label. You're not a feminist. You're for gender equality. They're NOT the same thing, and gender equality is the better way to go.
 
2012-01-08 05:50:31 PM
GAT_00
what_now: That's what feminism is- it evened the playing field.

That's the last version of feminism. The new version, instead of trying to finish fixing the equality gap, has turned to man hating.GAT_00 [TotalFark]
2012-01-08 04:10:25 PM
what_now: That's what feminism is- it evened the playing field.

That's the last version of feminism. The new version, instead of trying to finish fixing the equality gap, has turned to man hating.


Oh man. I have never met a man-hating feminazi (that I'm aware of). It's like supposed Democrats who think Obama is the Messiah Who Cannot Err - actually rather rare. But they make great scapegoats.
 
2012-01-08 05:50:49 PM
I am kinda missing the submitters point. I think it is a great way to easily demonstrate the amount of sexual assault in this country. A very clear and creative use of statistics. As well as very very sad.
 
2012-01-08 05:51:07 PM

lazyguineapig33: downstairs: Question: what if you're both drunk? Does that cancel out the "rape" or is that the literal, real-life description of rape-rape.

i always wondered that. my GF and me rape each other every week by that definition.


Exactly. I guess me and the wife should be locked up for life on 200+ counts of rape-rape.
 
2012-01-08 05:54:21 PM

baka-san: That said, I sometimes think the one out of five women being sexually assaulted is on the low side from my experience with women as friends, lovers, and SO's.


the tragic, sad, terrible thing about this is that of all the women that I know who were raped, none of them reported it.

one case was abused and raped by everyone she ever dated. she is an abuse victim and only dates abusers.
why wont she report them? because nothing will happen (she is right) and it will just be hell on earth for her dealing with the police and courts (she is right) and then she will be branded in public as a rape victim (sigh)

the other two cases were date raped. neither one reported it. both are totally farked up still.

while I have learned that victims have to do what they have to do to survive and get better, what part of not reporting is just letting this happen to the next victim? what part of not reporting empowers you ?

given that most rapes are not stranger-rape, I guess it makes sense that there are so many women out there getting raped.
Until people report their rapists, the rapists will be out there continuing to rape.

/on the OTHER hand, how do I, a non-rapists, prevent being accused of date rape? do I need to get a breathalyzer ? and NEVER sleep with a women who has smoked pot, ever in her life??
/sigh
 
2012-01-08 05:54:43 PM

what_now: my link failed, because my link is a rapist:
Link (new window)


Ha! I think I checked yes on about 15 of them.

Other than the silly "she deserved it because she was wearing a short skirt" all of those are in line with completely healthy thinking.

I particularly love this one:

He characterizes the self-sexualizing behavior of some women, such as wearing make-up or high heels, as evidence of women's desire to "get" a man.

So I guess my wife made me rape her by dressing up slutty because she was horny?
 
2012-01-08 05:54:48 PM

Thorak: Also see this (NSFW language);
Link
(new window)



That's the guy who sent nude pictures of himself with a banana stuck up his ass to his underage girlfriend. You shouldn't listen to anything he has to say.
 
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