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2012-01-08 05:58:11 PM
*finished = finest
 
2012-01-08 05:59:18 PM

Kazan: locally dubbed "Avoid Renton" :P

j/k (not on that team.. no idea what they're calling it)


I live in washington. That's funny stuff right there!
 
2012-01-08 05:59:51 PM

bikerbob: cig-mkr: Any road named Martin Luther King Blvd. ?

/ Very true but can add "Central" and "Main".as a side note.


Around here it's any street or area that is referred to as "North" or "South" whatever
 
2012-01-08 06:00:19 PM

One Bad Apple: [vigilantcitizen.com image 357x349]


"Hey, I gotta make a stop real quick. At 3 o'clock in the morning, and I didn't know he was taking me to the ghetto at first. I started looking out the window, see gun store, gun store, liquor store, gun store, where the fark you taking me ?"



Chip took off. The other guy didn't even know we were racing.
 
2012-01-08 06:00:23 PM

BigRightRear: I travel a lot and whatever city I'm I just aviod MLK Blvd. It rang true last week as a local pro fisherman was shot in the face and killed on MLK in Belle Glade.


Actually not every MLK Boulevard is a pit: The MLK Blvd in Madison, WI is a 3 block stretch downtown lined with government offices, a Starbuck's, and a couple of restaurants. The MLK Blvd. in Goldsboro, NC is an expressway with strip malls and chain stores on the frontage roads. The one in Chapel Hill, NC is a tame main drag.
 
2012-01-08 06:02:32 PM

cmb53208: BigRightRear: I travel a lot and whatever city I'm I just aviod MLK Blvd. It rang true last week as a local pro fisherman was shot in the face and killed on MLK in Belle Glade.

Actually not every MLK Boulevard is a pit: The MLK Blvd in Madison, WI is a 3 block stretch downtown lined with government offices, a Starbuck's, and a couple of restaurants. The MLK Blvd. in Goldsboro, NC is an expressway with strip malls and chain stores on the frontage roads. The one in Chapel Hill, NC is a tame main drag.


I've only been to North Carolina once but somehow I get the feeling it's probably one of the nicer and saner states to live in.
 
zez
2012-01-08 06:04:05 PM
I thought of this idea years ago.

My wife used to work at a huge pharmaceutical plant in downtown north St. Louis and whenever she wanted to go anywhere her GPS would run her through the worst parts of town in the country.
 
2012-01-08 06:07:31 PM

PsiChick: Is everyone joking, or is there an actual area in a real live city where you could get shot just by driving through?

/Reno doesn't have ghettos
//Although trailer trash...


/ Oakland, California.
 
2012-01-08 06:07:54 PM

here to help:
I've only been to North Carolina once but somehow I get the feeling it's probably one of the nicer and saner states to live in.


Put it to you this way: North Carolina is Best Carolina.
 
2012-01-08 06:08:38 PM

ZAZ: Avoiding dangerous areas is obvious. What's the novel part of this invention?


This part:

the method comprising: collecting a request from a pedestrian that a route includes a waypoint to a general location; locating at least one information source, retaining pedestrian history from a plurality of pedestrians and addresses of at least one information source that has a history of providing reliable information, identifying low quality information sources that do not provide information used in route generation, and blocking information obtainment for the low quality information sources; obtaining information related to pedestrian travel including security information, weather information, and terrain information, wherein the gather component obtains the information from the at least one located information source; making at least one inference regarding a route based on a previous pedestrian behavior; determining, based on the at least one inference, the information that is likely relevant and deleting information that is commonly of little value in part through examination of previously produced routes; determining an importance of the information to a user, estimating how likely the information is to change, and choosing if the user should reach the destination through pedestrian route and/or through a conventional route; resolving conflicts between an information source with a financial interest and an information source without a financial interest and producing a direction set based upon the information source that does not have a financial interest in providing the direction set; collecting information concerning routes of other people; and using the collected information to update the pedestrian-based route in real time.
 
2012-01-08 06:09:54 PM

cmb53208: here to help:
I've only been to North Carolina once but somehow I get the feeling it's probably one of the nicer and saner states to live in.

Put it to you this way: North Carolina is Best Carolina.


Heheh. Washington state sounds semi normal too... but depressing and dreary.
 
2012-01-08 06:10:14 PM

bikerbob: PsiChick: Is everyone joking, or is there an actual area in a real live city where you could get shot just by driving through?

/Reno doesn't have ghettos
//Although trailer trash...

/ Oakland, California.


Detroit. And any city that shares a border with Detroit.

/Seriously, Detroit is just empty with this sorta nice bit down near the Stadiums and Greektown. The inner ring is the really scary bits.
 
2012-01-08 06:12:01 PM

PsiChick: Is everyone joking, or is there an actual area in a real live city where you could get shot just by driving through?

/Reno doesn't have ghettos
//Although trailer trash...


I advise you against visiting 'Baltigore', Trenton, or D.C. To start with.
 
2012-01-08 06:12:14 PM

here to help: Sun Worshiping Dog Launcher: here to help: Also... if ya'll had stopped sh*tting on minorities after the civil rights movement and actually gave them a real chance they'd probably be less stabby and shooty.

Also, This.

We'd have alot fewer problems if we had worked harder to integrate, educate and respect African-Americans after the Civil War rather than being forced to grudgingly do it in the 1960's by federal law. However, people don't really like to hear that said much around here.

It's brutal. Imagine after all those years of hurt and oppression and FINALLY being told you are equal and you will be afforded the same opportunities as everyone else only to have those opportunities consistently denied.

At some point you'd just become completely bitter, apathetic and not even bother anymore. Why should you?

Free at last my ass.


So let's all have thirty children and demand someone pay for them...
 
2012-01-08 06:12:20 PM

Cat With Two Heads: Has anyone considered the fact that creating computer algorithms to avoid economically depressed areas is actually contributing to their economic status? Oh, so we're just gonna roll with the racism instead of any social introspection? Great.


Well, if an area is high crime to the point where even GPS systems route around it, it likely will be very hard for it to get any activity due to having a bad reputation in the first place. You don't build tourist traps in slums on the chance that GPS systems might route well off people through them. It will take quite a bit of intervention to get these places back on their feet, and routing hapless people through them and getting them killed will not help a case to improve the economy of an area rather than just up police in the area.
 
2012-01-08 06:13:12 PM

ZAZ: Avoiding dangerous areas is obvious. What's the novel part of this invention?


Actually going and doing it, apparently.

It's kind of funny how you call it 'obvious' when, in an industry that's been around for a pretty dang long time, NOBODY else has been struck by this 'obvious' tool.

I think you're confusing that feeling you get when you hear an idea that just "makes sense" with "being obvious".
 
2012-01-08 06:13:19 PM

jjorsett: Somebody is eventually going to get the idea of crowdsourcing data on where the police cars are at any given moment. When that's available, I look forward to the "avoid cops" GPS feature.


THIS THIS THIS, A THOUSAND TIMES THIS!
 
2012-01-08 06:13:30 PM

namatad: I LOVE watching/talking to subtards who have to drive in on the Ike. bwhahahahahahaaha
"but it goes through really bad areas, right??"


I remember when I was a kid in the early 80's driving through the south-side with my dad and going through some really rough areas (he worked on the south-side and we lived in the south-burbs). He'd always tell me not to tell my mom that we had taken whatever way home we had taken, which would have likely made an 'avoid ghetto' gps device explode.

/why yes, that car is on fire, why do you ask?
 
2012-01-08 06:16:58 PM

PsiChick: Is everyone joking, or is there an actual area in a real live city where you could get shot just by driving through?


FTA: Now Microsoft has been granted a patent that is designed to make its maps more pedestrian-friendly.

They're not talking about driving directions.
 
2012-01-08 06:18:01 PM

meyerkev: bikerbob: PsiChick: Is everyone joking, or is there an actual area in a real live city where you could get shot just by driving through?

/Reno doesn't have ghettos
//Although trailer trash...

/ Oakland, California.

Detroit. And any city that shares a border with Detroit.

/Seriously, Detroit is just empty with this sorta nice bit down near the Stadiums and Greektown. The inner ring is the really scary bits.


I've wondered, if an area is actually completed deserted due to violence and everyone, including those who caused the violence, left, why not pave and rebuild it? If a dangerous area can spread outward, why not try to reverse it by spreading growth slowly inward?

croesius: here to help: Sun Worshiping Dog Launcher: here to help: Also... if ya'll had stopped sh*tting on minorities after the civil rights movement and actually gave them a real chance they'd probably be less stabby and shooty.

Also, This.

We'd have alot fewer problems if we had worked harder to integrate, educate and respect African-Americans after the Civil War rather than being forced to grudgingly do it in the 1960's by federal law. However, people don't really like to hear that said much around here.

It's brutal. Imagine after all those years of hurt and oppression and FINALLY being told you are equal and you will be afforded the same opportunities as everyone else only to have those opportunities consistently denied.

At some point you'd just become completely bitter, apathetic and not even bother anymore. Why should you?

Free at last my ass.

So let's all have thirty children and demand someone pay for them...


You're a real class act aren't you? Go away.
 
2012-01-08 06:22:07 PM

fanbladesaresharp: I don't need GPS to tell me I'm farked. The abandoned homes, meth heads and gunshots will suffice.


I think the idea is that this tech would steer you clear of the abandoned neighborhoods besot by methheads and gunfire well before you set foot in them.
 
2012-01-08 06:25:26 PM

spman: Honestly, this feature would be much appreciated, especially here in Connecticut where at any time you can be on one street filled with McMansions, then all of a sudden turn right into Crackton.


I grew up in CT and remember that well. We would leave Southington and head to Hartford (IIRC) to get this great Italian deli/pastry shop. We would pass through the ghetto...homies all over, cars on blocks on the side of the street, no street lights...then all the sudden the street were clean, the street lights were all on, and we knew we had made it to the Italian section. The change over was sudden, literally from one street to the next. There would be much rejoicing and canolis for all.
 
2012-01-08 06:26:02 PM
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/Q&D
 
2012-01-08 06:27:02 PM
BarbadoSlim:

jjorsett: Somebody is eventually going to get the idea of crowdsourcing data on where the police cars are at any given moment. When that's available, I look forward to the "avoid cops" GPS feature.

THIS THIS THIS, A THOUSAND TIMES THIS!


I don't have any problems with cops since I don't drive like a ninny, but this feature has existed since the 1960's, it's called "CB Radio channel 19." It also features real-time traffic updates and detailed how-to-avoid advice as well as updates on cute chicks in convertibles.

But no, it's not available on your iPhone.
 
2012-01-08 06:29:03 PM

croesius: So let's all have thirty children and demand someone pay for them...


Oh, ya got me. So clever. Now run along to your klan meeting. They need your brilliance.
 
2012-01-08 06:29:18 PM

maxheck: BarbadoSlim:

jjorsett: Somebody is eventually going to get the idea of crowdsourcing data on where the police cars are at any given moment. When that's available, I look forward to the "avoid cops" GPS feature.

THIS THIS THIS, A THOUSAND TIMES THIS!

I don't have any problems with cops since I don't drive like a ninny, but this feature has existed since the 1960's, it's called "CB Radio channel 19." It also features real-time traffic updates and detailed how-to-avoid advice as well as updates on cute chicks in convertibles.

But no, it's not available on your iPhone.


How about for Droid?

/posted from my Droid
 
2012-01-08 06:29:39 PM

here to help: I've only been to North Carolina once but somehow I get the feeling it's probably one of the nicer and saner states to live in.


It's not. I'd blame the farking government, but it just listens to the people, who want more restriction and regulation and want to pay for it. Take any concept of urban planning and hack it to pieces. They believe in trees, not signs. There are laws protecting the trees statewide and in every municipality.

There are too many trees; they're all you can see, no matter where you go. Billboards are usually illegal, as well as any sign over ten feet high. As a result, everything is a secret. Need gas? Get farked. There's a barber near your house? Secret. Great restaurant? Secret.

Every city has a grid-based downtown that lasts for less than a dozen blocks. After that, it's strip malls, suburbs and highways. And trees blotting out all of them. Getting to another side of town is like taking a trip in a bendy straw. Don't make a wrong turn. If you make a wrong turn, you are farked. You have to turn around and go back to where you came in, because the roads either aren't connected, lead into a labyrinthine suburb neighborhood or are dead ends. Don't take a wrong exit off the highway, either, because access roads are few and far between and not connected. And nothing is "right off the highway" even if there's a highway off the other highway. All the road names are the same.

There's no water. Rivers just aren't there and lakes are nowhere near civilization. Parking is inexplicably a biatch unless you're in strip mall territory.

I liked Wilmington (though it was just as hard to cross) and Charlotte was a little more grid-based but appeared to be a hole. Do not live in Durham unless you enjoy driving and poverty.

Oh and nowhere is as cheap as it should be. I live in a college town and most places want more than $1000 for a two bedroom. Taxes are high, and they're generally getting higher. Public transport is fairly crappy because the cities are so poorly laid out. The only upside is there's not generally a lot of traffic unless you're in Raleigh.
 
2012-01-08 06:35:37 PM

moothemagiccow: trees


Wow... you sure hate trees.

And really, if your post is a true indicator of the worst problems in the state it actually sounds pretty damned good to me.

Christ, I live in buttf*ck nowhere and you can't find a 2 bedroom around here unless you want to live in a sh*thole.

No offense to you personally but everything you mentioned doesn't sound that bad comparatively.
 
2012-01-08 06:36:16 PM

Active introvert: thermo: Does it sound an alarm anytime you are near MLK Blvd?

"You know what's sad? Martin Luther King stood for non violence. And I don't care where you are in America, if you're on Martin Luther King Boulevard, there's some violence going down."
-Chris Rock

This made me laugh. Have an MLK BLVD in my town, don't want to go there.


I wonder why.
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2012-01-08 06:37:03 PM
BarbadoSlim:

maxheck: BarbadoSlim:

jjorsett: Somebody is eventually going to get the idea of crowdsourcing data on where the police cars are at any given moment. When that's available, I look forward to the "avoid cops" GPS feature.

THIS THIS THIS, A THOUSAND TIMES THIS!

I don't have any problems with cops since I don't drive like a ninny, but this feature has existed since the 1960's, it's called "CB Radio channel 19." It also features real-time traffic updates and detailed how-to-avoid advice as well as updates on cute chicks in convertibles.

But no, it's not available on your iPhone.

How about for Droid?

/posted from my Droid


No, but I think I know what app I'm going to write next. I might have to make it a subscription service though to support the hardware involved. (rubbing hands together and grinning evilly)
 
2012-01-08 06:39:26 PM

12349876: jst3p: I replaced my Tom Tom after it tried to kill me. It routed me through a part of Oakland that I clearly should not have been in. Further inspection of the route it gave me on Google maps later revealed that there was no logical reason for this route. It did the same thing in San Jose.

I don't trust any GPS for where to go. I'll use it to make sure I don't miss a turn or if an accident has the highway shut down, but trusting it for a good route is just stupid. They're much worse than Google and Bing and even they'll give you stupid routes sometimes.


You're probably right, and I don't have a GPS, but my daughter told me yesterday, though, that she and her friend got back to school in extra-quick time. When I asked her which route they took - we're always looking for faster ways to get there - she said they just took the way suggested by her friend's GPS. It was not one of the several established routes, just kind of an amalgam of different streets cobbled together.
 
2012-01-08 06:39:44 PM

maxheck: BarbadoSlim:

jjorsett: Somebody is eventually going to get the idea of crowdsourcing data on where the police cars are at any given moment. When that's available, I look forward to the "avoid cops" GPS feature.

THIS THIS THIS, A THOUSAND TIMES THIS!

I don't have any problems with cops since I don't drive like a ninny, but this feature has existed since the 1960's, it's called "CB Radio channel 19." It also features real-time traffic updates and detailed how-to-avoid advice as well as updates on cute chicks in convertibles.

But no, it's not available on your iPhone.


You sound old.
 
2012-01-08 06:41:29 PM

here to help: Also... if ya'll had stopped sh*tting on minorities after the civil rights movement and actually gave them a real chance they'd probably be less stabby and shooty.


This is what Liberals actually believe.
 
2012-01-08 06:44:50 PM
This shiat is gonna come back on y'all in twenty years when you try to run for president.
 
2012-01-08 06:50:08 PM

Generation_D: here to help: Also... if ya'll had stopped sh*tting on minorities after the civil rights movement and actually gave them a real chance they'd probably be less stabby and shooty.

This is what Liberals actually believe.


I'm not a liberal or a conservative.

I'm a realist.
 
2012-01-08 06:52:12 PM

jehovahs witness protection: Sounds like a damn good idea.


Yeah, my GPS keeps taking me through bad parts of Oakland. Being purely based on shortest/quickest route really makes the GPS pretty much useless when you're certain cities. I agree it is a good idea.
 
2012-01-08 06:52:27 PM
MapQuest once got me lost in Gary, IN before I had a GPS. I was about 99% sure I was going to die that day...
 
2012-01-08 06:55:28 PM
Thinking that this has to do with race says more about you than them. As a white guy, there are white trash neighborhoods that I could really use a transfer route away from.

In fact, I rolled through Compton several times and it was rather pleasant. Kenneth City, L, roll 'em up.
 
2012-01-08 06:56:44 PM
I think this is a good idea. I hate seeing mamas cry.
 
2012-01-08 07:00:04 PM
So, the route options are:

-Quickest route
-Shortest route
-Avoid being killed route

Can you sort by two? I'd go 3 followed by 1, I guess.
 
zez
2012-01-08 07:01:18 PM
Really? Am I the first one after this many posts?

www.doblu.com
 
2012-01-08 07:03:18 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: Next up: Cross-country driving with "Avoid Texas™" Feature.


It's called Interstate 80.
 
2012-01-08 07:03:48 PM

zez: Really? Am I the first one after this many posts?

[www.doblu.com image 640x360]


No.
 
2012-01-08 07:03:59 PM
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Belatryx: MapQuest once got me lost in Gary, IN before I had a GPS. I was about 99% sure I was going to die that day...


Hehe. Did you run into this cat?

content.sportslogos.net

/Best sports logo ever.
 
2012-01-08 07:17:25 PM

cmb53208: BigRightRear: I travel a lot and whatever city I'm I just aviod MLK Blvd. It rang true last week as a local pro fisherman was shot in the face and killed on MLK in Belle Glade.

Actually not every MLK Boulevard is a pit: The MLK Blvd in Madison, WI is a 3 block stretch downtown lined with government offices, a Starbuck's, and a couple of restaurants. The MLK Blvd. in Goldsboro, NC is an expressway with strip malls and chain stores on the frontage roads. The one in Chapel Hill, NC is a tame main drag.


For Chapel Hill, that is a ghetto.
 
2012-01-08 07:21:48 PM

moothemagiccow: There's no water. Rivers just aren't there and lakes are nowhere near civilization.


lolwut? There's a ten mile long lake within a 15 minute bike ride of you.

B. Everett Jordan Lake (new window)
 
2012-01-08 07:23:01 PM

thrasherrr: moothemagiccow: There's no water. Rivers just aren't there and lakes are nowhere near civilization.

lolwut? There's a ten mile long lake within a 15 minute bike ride of you.

B. Everett Jordan Lake (new window)


I think maybe he was just trying to scare me away from moving there.

People like me ruin everything.
 
2012-01-08 07:25:02 PM

thermo: Does it sound an alarm anytime you are near MLK Blvd?


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/oblig
 
2012-01-08 07:27:08 PM

Kazan: locally dubbed "Avoid TRenton" :P

j/k (not on that team.. no idea what they're calling it)


/FTF New Jersey
//Also Camden and Newark
 
2012-01-08 07:27:23 PM
Is there a "avoid tiny mountain roads during wintertime" feature, too? Because there are a lot of idiots who travel throughout the western US who would benefit from such an addition.
 
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