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2012-01-08 10:12:03 AM
Back when I was in 6th or 7th grade I accidentally brought a lighter to school. I lived on a farm and my family would burn the flammable garbage so I probably had it in my coat from going out the night before to start the fire. I didn't report it to the teacher though. When I discovered I had it I lied and said I had to go to the bathroom, I went to the Secretary's office just down the hall from the bathroom and handed it in. My mother was a teacher at the school and I didn't have a history of being a trouble maker so I didn't get into any trouble at all, I didn't even hear anything from my mom about it. This was before Columbine too.

I don't know if I would have gotten off so easily if this happened in this day and age.
 
2012-01-08 10:21:01 AM
So they're finally loosening up a little, then?
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-01-08 10:22:40 AM
Good. He will never make it in today's business world with a bad habit like honesty.
 
2012-01-08 10:34:48 AM
That'll teach you to be honest.
 
2012-01-08 10:35:12 AM

That'll teach the kid to never admit to anything. The easiest road to take.


Kids nowadays. If they're not blabbing about bringing knives to school, they're blabbing about having farked one of their teachers. What's wrong with them?

 
2012-01-08 10:35:35 AM
Kids today sure are dumb.
 
2012-01-08 10:37:02 AM
Seriously, punish the honest people.

Next time they won't make the mistake of reporting themselves.
 
2012-01-08 10:38:35 AM

32oz High Life: Kids today sure are dumb.


He made a mistake, admitted to making a mistake and was punished. From now on, he'll just keep his mouth shut, for good or bad
 
2012-01-08 10:39:54 AM
He looks like he is a trouble maker....
 
2012-01-08 10:40:03 AM
Several years ago, the Gwinnett School System altered its policy to allow consideration of self-reporting. Prior to that, cases such as this one would result in a minimum 10-day out-of-school suspension.

Holy shiat. So what he faced was the scaled down version of the Stupid.
 
2012-01-08 10:40:41 AM

great_tigers: He looks like he is a trouble maker....


Chess club members usually are the rowdy uncontrollable type.
 
2012-01-08 10:41:03 AM
Good to learn young to keep your mouth shut about anything unless it's a matter of life or death to a loved one.
 
2012-01-08 10:41:20 AM

BizarreMan: Seriously, punish the honest people.

Next time they won't make the mistake of reporting themselves.


Actually, this is probably a good life lesson. Never tell little people with too much authority anything. Dealing with the little tyrants of school administration is probably good training for dealing with cops and other authorities as an adult.
 
2012-01-08 10:41:55 AM
If today's teachers knew how often, in elementary school, I accidentally had my scout knife in my pocket they would shiat bricks.
 
2012-01-08 10:45:02 AM

SharkTrager: If today's teachers knew how often, in elementary school, I accidentally had my scout knife in my pocket they would shiat bricks.


shiat.. If teachers today knew as early as the 90's kids were rolling joints in class, bringing acid to school, knives, vodka etc etc.. I'm pretty confident that if our HS back in the day every had some asshole start opening fire that he would have been lynched and hanging from the flagpole before police arrived.
 
2012-01-08 10:45:31 AM
The military style bag was given to him as a Christmas gift from his aunt, who bought it at a yard sale.

Nice.
 
2012-01-08 10:46:44 AM
When one thinks of the mental midgets that we have in charge of school systems, it's truly amazing how the kids learn anything.

I have relatives who are teachers. They have zero respect for their supposed bosses. They are looked upon the same as shady used-car salesmen, but realize it's politics that put them there, not knowledge of the job. They all powerless to change anything and can't wait for retirement when they don't have to put up with that shiat anymore.

School officials. People who lack the intelligence to get the job of Walmart greeter.
 
2012-01-08 10:49:27 AM
In 8th grade every student had to give a demonstrative speech to pass the class. 9 out of 10 of the males in class brought their shotguns to class to demonstrate how to clean a gun. This was in the early 80's. Oddly, none of us shot each other. Doesn't really seem like that long ago.

/CSb
 
2012-01-08 10:49:41 AM
*facepalm*
*sigh*
WTF is wrong with people today?
 
2012-01-08 10:49:56 AM
When I went to school, I carried a pocket knife. I even remember one of the teachers asking if they could borrow it so they could cut a thread that had came loose from their shirt. That teacher was pretty cool and was my sixth grade teacher. His wife, also a teacher, was a real biatch and I unfortunately had her in second grade then she transferred to fifth grade and I got her again.

I swear it is like they are those in power are trying to raise a generation of wimps or liars.
 
2012-01-08 10:51:00 AM
He's suspended and still has to go to school, what kind of double think is that?
 
2012-01-08 10:51:59 AM

heater: The military style bag was given to him as a Christmas gift from his aunt, who bought it at a yard sale.

Nice.


Yeah, a military style bag does make a really nice present for any kid still at the tail end of playing GI Joes. Usually you'd have to go to a surplus store to get one, but props to the aunt for finding one at a yard sale.
 
2012-01-08 10:53:51 AM

heater: The military style bag was given to him as a Christmas gift from his aunt, who bought it at a yard sale.

Nice.


You still upset you were given the wrong colour iPhone?
 
2012-01-08 10:54:11 AM

Winning: Back when I was in 6th or 7th grade I accidentally brought a lighter to school. I lived on a farm and my family would burn the flammable garbage so I probably had it in my coat from going out the night before to start the fire. I didn't report it to the teacher though. When I discovered I had it I lied and said I had to go to the bathroom, I went to the Secretary's office just down the hall from the bathroom and handed it in. My mother was a teacher at the school and I didn't have a history of being a trouble maker so I didn't get into any trouble at all, I didn't even hear anything from my mom about it. This was before Columbine too.

I don't know if I would have gotten off so easily if this happened in this day and age.


You sound young. My high school had a smoking area. Plenty of kids had lighters in their pockets. And the majority of the boys had pocket knives.
 
2012-01-08 10:54:22 AM
So, the kid is totally indoctrinated.
Or he is the craftiest pot dealer in the school in that he has diverted away the gaze of the 'Thor-ties.
 
2012-01-08 10:54:40 AM
The first rule of Chess Club is: You do not talk about weapons in Chess Club...
The second rule of Chess Club is: You do NOT tell teachers ANYTHING about Chess Club!
 
2012-01-08 10:54:45 AM
Cellphones and other electronic devices are prohibited inside the gates of my work place.

Every once in awhile I'm betting farking near everyone forgets to leave their phone in the car and accidentally brings it in. The guards look at you like you're a nutjob when you tell them and surrender the phone rather than just turn it off and sneak it back out.
 
2012-01-08 10:55:12 AM

MannaxOne:
I swear it is like they are those in power are trying to raise a generation of wimps or liars.


Oh you have NO idea of just how right you are
 
2012-01-08 10:55:22 AM
This is always something that I've taught my son.......keep your mouth sit in a situation like this. People in authority these days only usually only care about the "instant offense". They don't give a shiat about underlying circumstances, for a number of reasons.

They make it too damn easy to get a record these days, with no latitude to learn from your mistakes. Better to be on the safe side and shut the fark up.
 
2012-01-08 10:56:19 AM

eeeleeet: *facepalm*
*sigh*
WTF is wrong with people today?


Specifically, what is wrong with Gwinnett County? (new window)
 
2012-01-08 10:56:27 AM

MannaxOne: I swear it is like they are those in power are trying to raise a generation of wimps or liars.


Political correctness will not be a problem for them.
 
2012-01-08 10:56:39 AM
Lesson for today...honesty is not the best policy, especially when it comes to egocentric dickhead school administrators on a power trip when they know darn well they couldn't win election for dogcatcher in their farked up town.
 
2012-01-08 10:56:46 AM

oryx: He's suspended and still has to go to school, what kind of double think is that?


Bascially he's in detention for 8 hours a day.
 
2012-01-08 10:57:27 AM
I did that once in elementary school, but I kept my farking mouth shut when I discovered it in my backpack.

/I hope that kid doesn't do his own taxes later in life
 
2012-01-08 10:57:32 AM

namegoeshere: Winning: Back when I was in 6th or 7th grade I accidentally brought a lighter to school. I lived on a farm and my family would burn the flammable garbage so I probably had it in my coat from going out the night before to start the fire. I didn't report it to the teacher though. When I discovered I had it I lied and said I had to go to the bathroom, I went to the Secretary's office just down the hall from the bathroom and handed it in. My mother was a teacher at the school and I didn't have a history of being a trouble maker so I didn't get into any trouble at all, I didn't even hear anything from my mom about it. This was before Columbine too.

I don't know if I would have gotten off so easily if this happened in this day and age.

You sound young. My high school had a smoking area. Plenty of kids had lighters in their pockets. And the majority of the boys had pocket knives.


^^ This also.. My H.S. had a smoking area. It was a patch of concrete only about 30ft from the school but it wasn't their property. Teachers, Principals etc would walk by a platform of smoking underages students without a care in the world. Some would join us or bum a smoke off us. We turned out fine. We also had something called "open lunch".. We could freely leave school grounds and do whatever we wanted during lunch period as long as we made it back to class on time.
 
GBB
2012-01-08 10:57:50 AM

oryx: He's suspended and still has to go to school, what kind of double think is that?


He gets to spend those days isolated with other disciplined students being taught by a teacher that's probably also being disciplined for something. That way, he gets the substandard education that will guarantee he will never have a decent job. The system works!
 
2012-01-08 10:59:16 AM

GBB: oryx: That way, he gets the substandard education that will guarantee he will never have a decent job. The system works!


And if he ever gets back on his feet, just kick him to the ground, again.
 
2012-01-08 10:59:28 AM
Has anyone yet mentioned that this will teach the kid to keep his mouth shut?
 
2012-01-08 10:59:38 AM

namegoeshere: You sound young. My high school had a smoking area. Plenty of kids had lighters in their pockets. And the majority of the boys had pocket knives.


I must be older than you, we were not allowed to smoke in the classroom.
 
2012-01-08 11:00:43 AM
Knife thread!

Xmas present from Mrs. Buck

www.bladehq.com
 
2012-01-08 11:01:32 AM
The lesson: STFU
 
2012-01-08 11:02:57 AM
There really is only one sensible policy for this kind of situation. Take the knife, call the parents and let them know they can pick it up after school, assure the student he is not in any trouble and thank him for his honesty.

Unfortunately, it will never happen.
 
2012-01-08 11:06:01 AM

oryx: He's suspended and still has to go to school, what kind of double think is that?


Sounds like "Double secret suspension" to me.
 
2012-01-08 11:06:37 AM
How's trusting the MAN workin' out for ya, dweeb.
 
2012-01-08 11:08:30 AM

BarbadoSlim: How's trusting the MAN workin' out for ya, dweeb.


This.
 
2012-01-08 11:09:17 AM

Winning: Back when I was in 6th or 7th grade I accidentally brought a lighter to school. I lived on a farm and my family would burn the flammable garbage so I probably had it in my coat from going out the night before to start the fire. I didn't report it to the teacher though. When I discovered I had it I lied and said I had to go to the bathroom, I went to the Secretary's office just down the hall from the bathroom and handed it in. My mother was a teacher at the school and I didn't have a history of being a trouble maker so I didn't get into any trouble at all, I didn't even hear anything from my mom about it. This was before Columbine too.

I don't know if I would have gotten off so easily if this happened in this day and age.


My friend always carried a knife on him, and after Columbine he made sure to measure it and read the entire Student Code of Conduct. To the chagrin of a teacher who always wanted to nail him for *something*, it was 2 3/4" - and the Code of Conduct said you could have knives up to 3". Heh.

They changed it after that. They also added metal detectors, added a backpack ban inbetween classes (facepalm - I carried around a farmer's market style shopping cart for awhile, someone else did a wagon), stopped letting juniors and seniors leave for lunch, and required all the *teachers* to wear visible IDs (one paid the entire year of fines for not wearing his upfront).

Yet two years after I graduated I still just walked into the damn building to drop off something for my brother and say hi to a few teachers who weren't knee-jerk reactionary idiots.
The policy worked wonderfully, obviously

Death_Poot: This is always something that I've taught my son.......keep your mouth sit in a situation like this. People in authority these days only usually only care about the "instant offense". They don't give a shiat about underlying circumstances, for a number of reasons.

They make it too damn easy to get a record these days, with no latitude to learn from your mistakes. Better to be on the safe side and shut the fark up.


My mom always *said* it was better not to lie and she'd go easier on us if we fessed up. My brother and I learned by ages 8 and 10 that that was BS and that we should cover each other when necessary and the favor would be returned in time.

My cousins, on the other hand - my aunt actually practiced what she preached, so they certainly had more trust in authority figures.

/thanks, Mom, for lying through your teeth about that sorta thing, I guess
//healthy skepticism of promises from authorities from an early, early age
///got my one and only in-house suspension for putting a blank floppy disk into a non-networked computer
 
2012-01-08 11:10:01 AM
Really suprised that he wasnt shot and killed by LEO.
 
2012-01-08 11:10:10 AM
spyderco.com

I never leave home without it...
 
2012-01-08 11:11:11 AM
If it was just a small pocket knife, why not just keep it in your pocket? Are teachers these days doing body cavity searches or something? Seems like an easy thing to hide and not worry about. I carried a pocket knife almost every day of school from 94-graduation in 00.

The draconian way schools handle rules these days is unbelievable.
 
2012-01-08 11:12:13 AM

Baron-Harkonnen: There really is only one sensible policy for this kind of situation. Take the knife, call the parents and let them know they can pick it up after school, assure the student he is not in any trouble and thank him for his honesty.

Unfortunately, it will never happen.


This is what my school did for me, albeit after talks of suspension, and for some reason getting my knife back required the sheriff to hand it over to my parents.
I was a freshman in HS IIRC, and I had ridden my bike to a football game. Being night time, I duct-taped a flash light to my handlebars and the knife was to remove the light for the duration of the game. As I walked into the game, I was patted down and then asked if I had any weapons with me. Like a fool I offered up that I had a knife.
Well. shiat. They took it.
Following Monday there was talk of suspension, etc. To which I responded, I had good reason to have the knife and I offered it up when asked; what more could you have asked of me? Having no good response to that I was sent upon my way and a parent had to come either to the school (or sheriff's office) to get it back. Never again did I answer in the affirmative to suck questions.
 
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