Lee Bruns: In 8th grade every student had to give a demonstrative speech to pass the class. 9 out of 10 of the males in class brought their shotguns to class to demonstrate how to clean a gun. This was in the early 80's. Oddly, none of us shot each other. Doesn't really seem like that long ago.

/CSb

I wanted to do that when I was in school in the 1970's and was told I it was illegal and I would be arrested and expelled if I did it. And that was in Alabama.

robodog: We had a homec class and it counted for 1.25 credits so if you were playing the valedictorian game it was a good class to take. We learned sewing, cooking, laundering and home finance.

Actually, everything except sewing should be a hard requirement for everyone to graduate.

slartiblartfast: Those who can, do.
Those who can't, teach.
Those who can't teach, administrate.

Hilarious, and very sadly spot-on

FTFA: The Gwinnett School System insists their policy on weapons in school is not zero tolerance, yet a school spokesperson said any student found to have a weapon at school will face punishment even when a student self-reports accidentally having that weapon.

oryx: He's suspended and still has to go to school, what kind of double think is that?

When I was in HS, if you skipped a class, you would get a day of in-school suspension. Makes sense. You miss one class, so as punishment, so we're gonna make you miss a whole day. And our ISS wasn't structured. You could read, doodle, just about anything but sleep

Most of the redneck kids in my HS carried belt knives openly. Around half the pickups had gun racks, and at least half of those were filled while parked at school. We did not, in my four years there, have a stabbing or a shooting.

Kid needs to be shown the "Do Not Talk To The Police" video, and then told that "Principals" fall in that category as well.

school spokesperson said any student found to have a weapon at school will face punishment even when a student self-reports accidently having that weapon.
"We can't ignore the fact that there is a weapon on campus somewhere that someone can use," said system spokesperson Jore Quintana. "This is obviously to keep the safety of our students in our schools.

Not if you have the frikkin' thing LOCKED up in a drawer in the principal's office!

Geez! Great way to encourage honesty among the students. Lie and you get punished. Tell the truth and you get punished.

Common sense is vanishing from the schools at an alarming rate.

If these regulations had applied when I was in school, 80% of the male students and about 20% of the female would have been expelled because nearly everyone carried pocket knives and NOT as weapons.

Back then, if you pulled a knife on anyone in school, it was considered cowardly by the other students. It was acceptable to handle disputes with your fists, but on a one to one basis. Ganging up on a kid and beating him up was also considered cowardly. Those were the 'Kid Rules' we made and stuck to, much of it coming from the influences of our parents and the TV shows of the time.

The administration rewarded honesty, especially over mistakes. Proscribed items would be held until after school, when the student could reclaim them. Kids who hunted would now and then show up with rifles in their trucks or cars and no one got hysterical about it. The kid would more than likely be told not to do it again and warned that the guns could be stolen from their cars.

On an average day in high school, I carried in my pockets: a zippo lighter, a pouch of pipe tobacco or pack of smokes, a tobacco pipe, a folding knife, a pack of gum, a tin of aspirin, loose change and the odd assortment of stuff ranging from found nuts and bolts to the occasional marble. Smoking was not allowed on school grounds but many secretly did and the school didn't get all hysterical about it.

Usually they confiscated the cigarettes and pipe tobacco, which you did not get back.

Booze and pot were much more serious, which could get you suspended and your folks called. Cops might be called in if you had a joint, but more likely not.

Rik01: school spokesperson said any student found to have a weapon at school will face punishment even when a student self-reports accidently having that weapon.
"We can't ignore the fact that there is a weapon on campus somewhere that someone can use," said system spokesperson Jore Quintana. "This is obviously to keep the safety of our students in our schools.

Not if you have the frikkin' thing LOCKED up in a drawer in the principal's office!

Geez! Great way to encourage honesty among the students. Lie and you get punished. Tell the truth and you get punished.

Common sense is vanishing from the schools at an alarming rate.

If these regulations had applied when I was in school, 80% of the male students and about 20% of the female would have been expelled because nearly everyone carried pocket knives and NOT as weapons.

Back then, if you pulled a knife on anyone in school, it was considered cowardly by the other students. It was acceptable to handle disputes with your fists, but on a one to one basis. Ganging up on a kid and beating him up was also considered cowardly. Those were the 'Kid Rules' we made and stuck to, much of it coming from the influences of our parents and the TV shows of the time.

The administration rewarded honesty, especially over mistakes. Proscribed items would be held until after school, when the student could reclaim them. Kids who hunted would now and then show up with rifles in their trucks or cars and no one got hysterical about it. The kid would more than likely be told not to do it again and warned that the guns could be stolen from their cars.

On an average day in high school, I carried in my pockets: a zippo lighter, a pouch of pipe tobacco or pack of smokes, a tobacco pipe, a folding knife, a pack of gum, a tin of aspirin, loose change and the odd assortment of stuff ranging from found nuts and bolts to the occasional marble. Smoking was not allowed on school grounds but many secretly did and the school didn't get all hysterical about ...

I remember Ms Allen, my 2cd grade English Teacher would light a cigarette, in between classes at her desk, and nobody said a thing.

fanbladesaresharp: bearcats1983: Excellent policy there. It just teaches kids to keep their mouth shut if they think they'll be punished for honesty.

We could be suspended for having contraband on us at school (early 2000s). By contraband, I mean Advil. Officially, our parents had to write a note and we had to have it locked in the nurse's office. That's a lot of trouble for a headache.

Big problem? WE....the parents of these insipid little whiners created these ridiculous rules.

No, but you did allow it to happen on your watch.
This is a good death,,,

Did you ever hear of Nahtan's Knife Kit?

snocone: Did you ever hear of Nahtan's Knife Kit?

Baa,, Nathan's

sleep well, grasshoppers, you are flood protected

meathome: Trance750: 32oz High Life: Kids today sure are dumb.

He made a mistake, admitted to making a mistake and was punished. From now on, he'll just keep his mouth shut, for good or bad

Yep.

Great lesson to learn, eh? Be honest and stand in front of your mistakes and you'll be punished by people who don't have enough intelligence to recognize the difference between a minor mistake and malicious intent.

There are several people I know who automatically dislike those in authority until proven otherwise. Most of them came to have that point of view by multiple experiences such as what this kid did.

Yea, well just wait till you run a few more decades on the dial.
DO NOT GET OLD!
Stop right now.
Just walk away.

Donde estan mis huevos: A kid last year had a carabiner with a knife in it. I pulled him aside after class, told him if any other teacher caught him with it he would probably be suspended. I still have it and use it around my class before and after school when needed.

So you didn't give it back to him at the end of the day, or at least call his parents and turn it over to them. WTF?

Just circumcise the kid with it and send him back to class.

/He won't ever do that again.

Donde estan mis huevos: John Buck 41: Donde estan mis huevos: A kid last year had a carabiner with a knife in it. I pulled him aside after class, told him if any other teacher caught him with it he would probably be suspended. I still have it and use it around my class before and after school when needed.

So you didn't give it back to him at the end of the day, or at least call his parents and turn it over to them. WTF?

I repeatedly reminded him to get it after school. He told me to keep it.

Well....ok, then. Sorry for the attitude.

ZERO TOLERANCE = ZERO INTELLIGENCE

/Learn it, know it, live it.