After all the lead-up, I was disappointed we didn't get video of her trying to unscrew the casing from a monitor.

The real problem I saw was that she wasn't willing to listen to anything that didn't fit her idea of how the world worked.

unlikely: Generally I don't think of the controller on a hard drive as swappable.
Once that dies your best bet is just replace the drive.

Word. They're often drive specific, too. And by that I mean specific to the particular model number, sometimes down to the revision number. Unless you can get a replacement board from an EXACT same drive, you're better off just letting it go, man. Because it's gone.

Loren: The real problem I saw was that she wasn't willing to listen to anything that didn't fit her idea of how the world worked.

You're describing the vast majority of the friggin' planet. The challenge isn't to teach new concepts - it's to remove existing, incorrect concepts from the heads of folks first.

Oh, and before my fellow nerds flood this thread with, "OMG she's so dumb!" comments, I'd just like to say that if someone asked me to change the spark plugs in my car's engine, I'd be equally as clueless.

Ignorance isn't to terrible. Willful ignorance is terrible.

Honest Bender: unlikely: Generally I don't think of the controller on a hard drive as swappable.
Once that dies your best bet is just replace the drive.

Word. They're often drive specific, too. And by that I mean specific to the particular model number, sometimes down to the revision number. Unless you can get a replacement board from an EXACT same drive, you're better off just letting it go, man. Because it's gone.

You can get the specific board your drive needs, there are a lot of sites around that sell hard drive boards specifically for this reason. Some of them (seagate) require you to desolder and swap an EEPROM, but you can get the PCB for most recent drives.

I'm no IT consultant but those blonds made a certain head of mine explode..

Has anyone pointed out that the show was asking them to replace the processor on the motherboard and not the processor on their hard drive?

/FAIL tag for subby
//I might be willing to go inside her box

brigid_fitch: You're dealing with a complete moron here. You have to break it down into moron language. "What you're calling the PC is is really called a monitor. The monitor is like a TV--it's just showing you the picture. All those pictures on your TV come from your cable box. The PC is like the cable box."

He did that; she refused to believe that anything but the display could POSSIBLY have anything to do with the computer.

Also subby is a tard; this challenge has nothing to do with HDDs; they clearly said "just change the processor", not "HDD processor", "HDD" or anything related to drives at all during the entire thing.

That said, it was painful to watch.

brigid_fitch: You're dealing with a complete moron here. You have to break it down into moron language. "What you're calling the PC is is really called a monitor. The monitor is like a TV--it's just showing you the picture. All those pictures on your TV come from your cable box. The PC is like the cable box."

The IT guy said almost exactly that to the pretty lady.

grinding_journalist: Also subby is a tard; this challenge has nothing to do with HDDs; they clearly said "just change the processor", not "HDD processor", "HDD" or anything related to drives at all during the entire thing.



I think

/giving subby the benefit of the doubt.
//after 15 years in IT I should know better

I thought this video would be making fun of her for not knowing what a processor is in a hard drive - and I felt sad, because I don't know what a processor is in a hard drive.

Then I realized she's just a bimbo and doesn't understand the computer is not IN the monitor...and I felt better.

Oh well...maybe I'll go look up what a processor in a hard drive is...

PS - I assume we're talking about a different processor than the main computer processor right? I'm pretty stupid when it comes to computers but I know that my computer processor is an Intel dual-core something or other. That processor determines how fast the computer runs, right? Is a hard drive processor the same thing?

Didn't watch the video... were the blondes provided with a suitable surface-mount rework station? And wouldn't it be better to swap the whole control board instead of just changing the processor?

Snapper Carr: grinding_journalist: Also subby is a tard; this challenge has nothing to do with HDDs; they clearly said "just change the processor", not "HDD processor", "HDD" or anything related to drives at all during the entire thing.

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I think

/giving subby the benefit of the doubt.
//after 15 years in IT I should know better

Uh.... where can I vote to say that was not the joke.

/Is this website inside my phone?

DrSieb: Then I realized she's just a bimbo and doesn't understand the computer is not IN the monitor



The processor is IN the computer?!

/Also funny: That computer is in the monitor.
//Well, sort of...

Bjork explains how her TV works (new window)

Honest Bender: Oh, and before my fellow nerds flood this thread with, "OMG she's so dumb!" comments, I'd just like to say that if someone asked me to change the spark plugs in my car's engine, I'd be equally as clueless.

Ignorance isn't to terrible. Willful ignorance is terrible.


I don't think it would take 5 minutes to explain to you where the engine was though.

Honest Bender: Oh, and before my fellow nerds flood this thread with, "OMG she's so dumb!" comments, I'd just like to say that if someone asked me to change the spark plugs in my car's engine, I'd be equally as clueless.

Ignorance isn't to terrible. Willful ignorance is terrible.

Tell us what you drive, and I'm willing to bet that a good number of farkers would be able to guide you through it sight unseen. If you drive a 4 cylinder car, it's really not that hard.

/Offer void if you drive a FWD v6
//Extra void if it's in a minivan. Those are often near impossible.

Loren: The real problem I saw was that she wasn't willing to listen to anything that didn't fit her idea of how the world worked.

I deal with users like this all freakin' day.

Cool story bro: Had one lady, she was a director in the company with a fancy office and all so an obvious college education so you'd think she'd listen and comprehend basic English. She needed help to copy files out of her hard drive onto her assigned network share since her small 40GB hard drive was clearly running out of space. One of the problems one of my tech colleagues encountered was that the file path to some of the files was over 255 characters and when trying to copy them over, Windows kept producing errors that the file path was too long, etc. She insisted that since we are IT, we need to think outside the box and come up with a solution to her dilemna and that we are somehow responsible to fix copyrighted code that is causing this limitation. Not only did she fail in listening skills when we told her that we can't change Windows source code to allow this, she also did not listen when we suggested to move some of them to a folder that wasn't as deep or rename the folder with lesser characters, claiming that she needs to keep them where they are as is so she knows where they are and that moving the files out of a folder that deep is not a viable alternative and clearly felt we weren't helping her. She continued to suggest we fix her problem pointing back to the file path too large problem.

We told her we'll have Bill Gates call her the next day.

brigid_fitch: You're dealing with a complete moron here. You have to break it down into moron language. "What you're calling the PC is is really called a monitor. The monitor is like a TV--it's just showing you the picture. All those pictures on your TV come from your cable box. The PC is like the cable box."

He did... she argued with him and still didn't get it. She wanted to know why he went from saying the processor was inside the computer(monitor) to saying it was under it in the box(PC).

Then complained about him talking too complicated for her.

Subby you dipshiat, that's not the hard drive. They want to swap the cpu on the motherboard. In other news subby is blonde, lives in a glass house, hobbies include casting aspersions and throwing rocks.

Honest Bender: Oh, and before my fellow nerds flood this thread with, "OMG she's so dumb!" comments, I'd just like to say that if someone asked me to change the spark plugs in my car's engine, I'd be equally as clueless.

Ignorance isn't to terrible. Willful ignorance is terrible.

We are surrounded by devices and processes we, for whatever reason, just don't care to learn about. Used to be humanity had some sense of curiosity, which lead to education. Among them:

Your refridgerator:
What's the compressor for? Did you know a refrigerator had a compressor?

Electronics:
What's branch prediction on a floating-point pipeline? Name the three parts of a transistor?

Cars:
What are dual overhead cams? The difference between pre-ignition and detonation? Why is direct injection more efficient than carboration?

Your friggin TV that you sit in front of all day:
Where is closed-captioning encoded in an NTSC signal? For that matter, what is a vertical-blanking interval? Oh hell, WTF is NTSC?

I'd guess these questions, as a set, would be a challenge for the majority of America. And we wonder why we're sliding as a nation.

What's with the ancient links on the video tab?

DrSieb: PS - I assume we're talking about a different processor than the main computer processor right? I'm pretty stupid when it comes to computers but I know that my computer processor is an Intel dual-core something or other. That processor determines how fast the computer runs, right? Is a hard drive processor the same thing?

No no no. A hard drive is a hard drive; it's a storage mechanism, it doesn't process anything.

Honest Bender: I'd just like to say that if someone asked me to change the spark plugs in my car's engine, I'd be equally as clueless.

So would I, but let's be honest. You and I are probably aware of a spark plug's role in the engine; to transfer the electricity stored in a battery to the firing chamber in order to make the spark and ignite gasoline. So, where ever the spark plug is in a car, it's probably in part of the firing chamber, and has a wire connecting it to the battery. It ain't in the backseat.

It's going to take that contagious to change it.

Honest Bender: Oh, and before my fellow nerds flood this thread with, "OMG she's so dumb!" comments, I'd just like to say that if someone asked me to change the spark plugs in my car's engine, I'd be equally as clueless.

Ignorance isn't to terrible. Willful ignorance is terrible.

The root cause of FAIL in this thread is that subby blew the headline. She was not asked to perform a near impossible task for a novice such as "changing the processor in her hard drive." She was given the comparatively simple task of changing the processor on the motherboard.

To use your car analogy, Subby implied that she was asked to do the near impossible, like change the spark plugs on her VW diesel, or adjust the carburator on her fuel injected engine. When in reality she was only being asked to do something along the lines of "change out the main 12volt battery in your car

Either my mother board is failing or just the USB ports, so I'm really getting a kick out of all of these replies.

But seriously, practically everyone I know over 50 who asks me for help with computer things refers to the monitor as the computer and the computer as the hard drive.

Honest Bender: DrSieb: Then I realized she's just a bimbo and doesn't understand the computer is not IN the monitor



The processor is IN the computer?!

/Also funny: That computer is in the monitor.
//Well, sort of...

I work on a helpdesk, and I am still mystified by the amount of people who turn off their monitor when I tell them to poower down their computer. It's 2012 already, folks. I understand this happening before home computers were ubiquitous, but for it to still be happening is just mind boggling to me.

Ditto for people still not knowing what a usb port is in this day and age. Seriously?

I have duel bios. Your argument is invalid.

rohar:
Your friggin TV that you sit in front of all day:
Where is closed-captioning encoded in an NTSC signal? For that matter, what is a vertical-blanking interval? Oh hell, WTF is NTSC?

You're absolutely right! Nobody knows where closed-captioning is encoded in an NTSC signal! It's the end of America! Woe betide us all!

Imagine having sex with her and she keeps asking if it's inside...

DrSieb: PS - I assume we're talking about a different processor than the main computer processor right? I'm pretty stupid when it comes to computers but I know that my computer processor is an Intel dual-core something or other. That processor determines how fast the computer runs, right? Is a hard drive processor the same thing?

The headline is poorly written. Subby is calling the PC box a hard drive. That's not an uncommon mistake.

The task on the show was indeed to replace the main CPU. Hard drives do have an onboard processor, but it is not generally a user-replaceable unit.

*ZAP*

Call an ambulance!

DrSieb: I thought this video would be making fun of her for not knowing what a processor is in a hard drive - and I felt sad, because I don't know what a processor is in a hard drive.

Then I realized she's just a bimbo and doesn't understand the computer is not IN the monitor...and I felt better.

Oh well...maybe I'll go look up what a processor in a hard drive is...

PS - I assume we're talking about a different processor than the main computer processor right? I'm pretty stupid when it comes to computers but I know that my computer processor is an Intel dual-core something or other. That processor determines how fast the computer runs, right? Is a hard drive processor the same thing?

Willing to bet there is white-out on her monitor?

All she had to do was show her boobies, the PC guy would have changed the processor for her.


Challenge failed

rohar: Honest Bender: Oh, and before my fellow nerds flood this thread with, "OMG she's so dumb!" comments, I'd just like to say that if someone asked me to change the spark plugs in my car's engine, I'd be equally as clueless.

Ignorance isn't to terrible. Willful ignorance is terrible.

We are surrounded by devices and processes we, for whatever reason, just don't care to learn about. Used to be humanity had some sense of curiosity, which lead to education. Among them:

(snip)

I'd guess these questions, as a set, would be a challenge for the majority of America. And we wonder why we're sliding as a nation.

I could answer most, but not all, of those. From my line of work:
Power system:
Where does your electricity come from? How much do you use? Why are high voltage transmission lines a necessity?

Lando Lincoln: I've given up on trying to teach my sister that it's a PC and not a "hard drive." So I just use her terminology instead.

"Yes, the hard drive inside your hard drive needs to be replaced."

*twitch*

I sell Real Estate. I keep all of my client files in Dropbox, in a file called "listings", each in individual files according to address. Every time I get an email, create a document, or take a picture regarding the property, I put it in Dropbox, so I can access it from home, the office, or even on my Droidx phone.

I have tried 4 times to teach a class in how to use this, and each time, the entire class looks at me like I am explaining how to fly a ship to the moon.

Old People Use a Computer (new window)

Cat With Two Heads: DrSieb: PS - I assume we're talking about a different processor than the main computer processor right? I'm pretty stupid when it comes to computers but I know that my computer processor is an Intel dual-core something or other. That processor determines how fast the computer runs, right? Is a hard drive processor the same thing?

No no no. A hard drive is a hard drive; it's a storage mechanism, it doesn't process anything.

Honest Bender: I'd just like to say that if someone asked me to change the spark plugs in my car's engine, I'd be equally as clueless.

So would I, but let's be honest. You and I are probably aware of a spark plug's role in the engine; to transfer the electricity stored in a battery COIL to the firing chamber in order to make the spark and ignite gasoline. So, where ever the spark plug is in a car, it's probably in part of the firing chamber, and has a wire connecting it to the battery COIL. It ain't in the backseat.

*sigh*

Next you can change your memory cables.

SithLord: Loren: The real problem I saw was that she wasn't willing to listen to anything that didn't fit her idea of how the world worked.

I deal with users like this all freakin' day.

Cool story bro: Had one lady, she was a director in the company with a fancy office and all so an obvious college education so you'd think she'd listen and comprehend basic English. She needed help to copy files out of her hard drive onto her assigned network share since her small 40GB hard drive was clearly running out of space. One of the problems one of my tech colleagues encountered was that the file path to some of the files was over 255 characters and when trying to copy them over, Windows kept producing errors that the file path was too long, etc. She insisted that since we are IT, we need to think outside the box and come up with a solution to her dilemna and that we are somehow responsible to fix copyrighted code that is causing this limitation. Not only did she fail in listening skills when we told her that we can't change Windows source code to allow this, she also did not listen when we suggested to move some of them to a folder that wasn't as deep or rename the folder with lesser characters, claiming that she needs to keep them where they are as is so she knows where they are and that moving the files out of a folder that deep is not a viable alternative and clearly felt we weren't helping her. She continued to suggest we fix her problem pointing back to the file path too large problem.

We told her we'll have Bill Gates call her the next day.

I would have told you to use "subst" to create a temporary pointer to part of the path to copy the files, then fired you.

Quantum Apostrophe: I would have told you to use "subst" to create a temporary pointer to part of the path to copy the files, then fired you.