You know, Perry, we kind of left unfinished business in Vietnam, too...

/moron.

Snarfangel: You know, Perry, we kind of left unfinished business in Vietnam, too...

/moron.

Hell, we left unfinished business in Stony Creek as well. Maybe we should re-invade Canada.

My wife and I are both vets...and we both think Iraq was a stupid.

/Perry is also...but so are most of his buds in the GOP "race"
//except Huntsman, but I'm not sure he is in the race

Is Perry like a neo-neocon?

I love that he named Joe Arpaio, yes sheriff Joe, to head his campaign in Arizona.

Mentat: Are you planning to reinvade? Any thought as to how the Iraqis would respond to that?

They would embrace us as liberators, like they did the first time obviously.

MorrisBird: Nobody cares what Rick Perry says. The powers that be have pronounced Mitt Romney their candidate. Mitt Romney it shall be. All of the rest is just sound and fury signifying nothing. We are a plutocracy. How clear we make it.

That has a lot less to do with plutocracy as it does with Perry and others being farking idiots.

I'm not really sure how he thinks Iranians can move at thOHMYGODTHEY'REALLINMYHOUujhb bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb bbbbbbb

Mentat: Are you planning to reinvade? Any thought as to how the Iraqis would respond to that?

They would respond, as they did the last two times we invaded, by dying by the hundreds of thousands.

I still think that Perry is only here now to spend his pile of cash trying to sink Romney.

Mentat: Paris1127: Snarfangel: You know, Perry, we kind of left unfinished business in Vietnam, too...

While we're at it, technically, the Korean War never ended...

And you know, Alexander never completely conquered India...

While we're at it, Nobunaga never even reached China.

NobleHam: Mentat: Paris1127: Snarfangel: You know, Perry, we kind of left unfinished business in Vietnam, too...

While we're at it, technically, the Korean War never ended...

And you know, Alexander never completely conquered India...

While we're at it, Nobunaga never even reached China.

You know...Adam never was able to reclaim the Garden of Eden from God...

I didn't know you fought and successfully relocated Iranians from Iraqi soil.

/the media blackout has gone too far

Doesn't Perry also want to invade Mexico?

Why stop there? Why not go ahead and put troops in Iran, Syria and Pakistan while you're at it? The U.S. hasn't been accused of being empire builders in at least a year or two. Perry is just the kind of candidate to fix that.

Either the last stupid thing republicans said on saturday or the first stupid thing they said on sunday.

Sunk cost fallacy, dumbass.

OMG I'm literally at the speed of light..

The US invaded Iraq because it was under too much Iranian influence?

Damn you, Chalabi

WTF Texas??!!!
I have given y'all the benefit of the doubt, but you guys are starting to show a pattern here.
If you really want fight someone, why not South Carolina?

Four more years?

More War Years!

/vote Rick Perry

Literally the speed of light? Literally?

GTFO.

farkityfarker: The US invaded Iraq because it was under too much Iranian influence?

No, but it IS a legit worry now that we've gone/are leaving.

Basically, the fear is that this (or at least something close) will happen again.



Because if this happens, you have a united Shia Islamic country of Iran/Iraq (or somewhat more realistically, Iraq becomes a puppet state of Iran) controlling the Fertile Crescent, and there's really not a whole lot to stop that country from rolling over the oil-producing countries in the Arabian Peninsula (or more realistically turning them into puppet states as well). And then we're farked*. THAT was the underlying subtext behind the crushing of the Bahrain protests. The Saudis really do not want a Iranian client state sitting on their border.

*Or more likely Israel, the US, and any other countries who don't want Iranian domination of the Persian Gulf throw down in various overt and covert ways.

/This was a Tom Clancy book, but it was a somewhat realistic premise. Iraq collapses, which means that that particular balance of power ends, the Saudis lose their shield as Iran rolls into Iraq, and one day, we wake up to a Caliphate in the Gulf.
//Of course, Clancy was also smart enough to realize that the only way we wouldn't throw down with EVERYTHING we had was to hit us with Ebola.

Stop me, if you've heard this one before......

GAT_00: And the deficit explodes with delight.

My Aircraft Carrier is full of eels!

meyerkev: farkityfarker: The US invaded Iraq because it was under too much Iranian influence?

No, but it IS a legit worry now that we've gone/are leaving.

Basically, the fear is that this (or at least something close) will happen again.

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Because if this happens, you have a united Shia Islamic country of Iran/Iraq (or somewhat more realistically, Iraq becomes a puppet state of Iran) controlling the Fertile Crescent, and there's really not a whole lot to stop that country from rolling over the oil-producing countries in the Arabian Peninsula (or more realistically turning them into puppet states as well). And then we're farked*. THAT was the underlying subtext behind the crushing of the Bahrain protests. The Saudis really do not want a Iranian client state sitting on their border.

*Or more likely Israel, the US, and any other countries who don't want Iranian domination of the Persian Gulf throw down in various overt and covert ways.

/This was a Tom Clancy book, but it was a somewhat realistic premise. Iraq collapses, which means that that particular balance of power ends, the Saudis lose their shield as Iran rolls into Iraq, and one day, we wake up to a Caliphate in the Gulf.
//Of course, Clancy was also smart enough to realize that the only way we wouldn't throw down with EVERYTHING we had was to hit us with Ebola.

You know, i asked why a Caliphate was bad in a different thread (Trolling a troll), and didn't get an answer, so I'm glad you posted this. There would certainly be some major short term issues with such a power structure, but I tend to think that either a) it would implode under the weight of it's own fundamentalism and collapse into smaller nations (which would likely improve stability, since the borders of said nations wouldn't be based on arbitrary lines drawn without regard to tribal or religious strife) or b) be drawn into the 20th century by virtue of being a major world player a la China. Maybe I'm being optimistic, but it's not like our last century of Real Politick experimentation over there has worked.
/The Saudi's can go pound sand.
//Israel can either stop being a back assward theocracy or deal with their self inflicted issues by themselves.

In Rick Perry's defense, he is an idiot.

WhyteRaven74: I love that he named Joe Arpaio, yes sheriff Joe, to head his campaign in Arizona.

I don't see why that's surprising. He's not some rinky-dink small-town Sheriff. He somehow keeps getting elected by a county that holds 60% of the state's population. A larger electoral pool than 23 US States.

Yes, clearly the possible Iranian dominance of Iraq is clearly Obama's fault. I mean, some nitpickers might go back to the decision to remove the counterbalancing Iraqi Sunni power structure that was made in 2003 as being the more significant precipitating factor, but clearly that line of reasoning is clearly faulty.

Clearly, the fault for this Mess-o-potamia rests clearly on the shoulders of Obama who clearly doesn't understand what's going on in Iraq. What we clearly need is a clear-minded Texan in the White House to put it all right again, just like the last one did.

Lawnchair: WhyteRaven74: I love that he named Joe Arpaio, yes sheriff Joe, to head his campaign in Arizona.

I don't see why that's surprising. He's not some rinky-dink small-town Sheriff. He somehow keeps getting elected by a county that holds 60% of the state's population. A larger electoral pool than 23 US States.

I'd imagine WhyteRaven74 finds it surprising because "Sheriff Joe" is a farking criminal.

I'm sure we can allow Private Perry to to be the first one over the top so to speak.

weezbo: shinji3i: You know...Adam never was able to reclaim the Garden of Eden from God...

Doesn't that just bring us right back to Iraq?

Not if Romney gets elected--then we'll have to invade Missouri.