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2012-01-07 04:40:29 PM
This is why we need to overturn the death penalty.
 
2012-01-07 04:48:11 PM
Upgraded to selfish turd?
 
2012-01-07 05:08:00 PM

johnsoninca: This is why we need to overturn the death penalty.


Because this totally nullifies the fact that Gacy had a 26-person cemetery under his home.
 
2012-01-07 05:18:23 PM
This guy sounds like the most selfish prick alive.
 
2012-01-07 05:26:58 PM

basemetal: Upgraded to selfish turd?

hitchking: This guy sounds like the most selfish prick alive.


Unless there's a Jerry Sandusky in his family, "selfish" doesn't even approach describing what this asshole is.
 
2012-01-07 05:39:16 PM

violentsalvation: johnsoninca: This is why we need to overturn the death penalty.

Because this totally nullifies the fact that Gacy had a 26-person cemetery under his home.


I agree that just because this one person wasn't killed, it doesn't negate all the other people he did kill. I'm opposed to the death penalty for and entire separate reason, the people who have been found innocent or could have been found innocent due to DNA evidence and other new investigative technologies. I'm not talking about CGI "enhance grid 34" shiat but you know what I mean. And the fact that in theory, we're supposed to be better than the criminals we prosecute.
 
2012-01-07 05:41:59 PM

violentsalvation: johnsoninca: This is why we need to overturn the death penalty.

Because this totally nullifies the fact that Gacy had a 26-person cemetery under his home.


In addition to the 7 victims buried around his yard or dumped in the Des Plaines River... And who knows how many victims we don't know about...

Also: Illinois has abolished capital punishment as of 2011.
 
2012-01-07 06:24:36 PM
If anyone deserved to fry, it was Gacy.
 
2012-01-07 06:29:33 PM
 
2012-01-07 06:30:32 PM
FTA: "December 21st, 2011"

/"news"
 
2012-01-07 06:39:10 PM

Speaker2Animals: basemetal: Upgraded to selfish turd?
hitchking: This guy sounds like the most selfish prick alive.

Unless there's a Jerry Sandusky in his family, "selfish" doesn't even approach describing what this asshole is.


came here to say this this and MORE FARKING THIS

and he disappeared while going through a divorce? was it so he didnt have to pay support/child support?
farktard needs to go to jail for this kind of BS
 
2012-01-07 07:35:40 PM

walkerhound: FTA: "December 21st, 2011"

/"news"


Wow -- skipped right over that. And, looking back, the mods blew it big time. Five Gacy links submitted on 12/21, and none of them greenlighted.
 
2012-01-07 07:50:02 PM

Selfish turd? Unless you really know what was going on with his divorce and his relationship with his family, the knee jerk reaction that he's selfish is going overboard. Maybe it was for the best he put distance between himself and his problems or do you guys not read enough stories about people murdering their family members then committing suicide?


He said he had a disagreement with his family. So he did what he thought was best.

 
2012-01-07 07:51:45 PM
I remember reading this here on Fark back on the 21st of December, the mods really blew it tonight.
 
2012-01-07 07:51:59 PM
Apropos of nothing, seeing his name made me randomly wonder how come Hinckley was never known in the media by his complete name. It turns out he has a middle name, "Warnock". Almost all notorious killers and assassins are known by their complete names, but not him for some reason.

/Cool musing, bro
 
2012-01-07 07:53:04 PM

violentsalvation: Because this totally nullifies the fact that Gacy had a 26-person cemetery under his home.


And that totally nullifies the fact that the government has killed innocent people.

/what is wrong with locking up someone for life again?
 
2012-01-07 07:54:17 PM
He "had a disagreement" with his family and blew them off for THIRTY-FIVE YEARS, leaving them to imagine God knows what happening to him? Like a previous poster said, unless there was some absolutely foul shiat going on, they didn't deserve that. (And frankly, the guy sounded like a jerk -- if something really nasty had been going on, I didn't get the impression that he would conceal it to protect them or anything like that). If you really can't stand your family that much, tell them you won't be there at Thanksgiving, move across the country if you want, don't give them your contact info if you're really determined to cut the cord, but at least give them a ring every now and then to let them know you're not rotting in some serial killer's basement.

/going through a divorce, hmm? Hope there weren't any kids involved. If there were, I hope they collect every cent of back child support from this guy's egomaniacal ass.
 
2012-01-07 07:54:21 PM
"He told the paper he figured his family could find him on the internet if they tried."

"Officials were able to find Szal as they embarked on a search to identify him as part of an ongoing effort to identify Gacy's unknown victims"


awkward.

"Szal hasn't spoken with his relatives yet. It's overwhelming, he said, and he needs to digest the news. He told police they could give his address to relatives, and they'll start with letters."

basically he doesnt even want to speak to them..... even more awkward.
 
2012-01-07 07:55:17 PM
How is this a selfish act? We don't know what was going on
 
2012-01-07 07:56:06 PM

johnsoninca: This is why we need to overturn the death penalty.


Am I the only one who read this as a hilariously sarcastic comment and not as an argument against the death penalty?
 
2012-01-07 07:56:13 PM

hitchking: This guy sounds like the most selfish prick alive.


Exactly what I was thinking. You want to never talk to someone again? Man up and say so. Don't just disappear.
 
2012-01-07 07:56:51 PM
So he was a butt banger?
 
2012-01-07 07:56:55 PM

violentsalvation: johnsoninca: This is why we need to overturn the death penalty.

Because this totally nullifies the fact that Gacy had a 26-person cemetery under his home.


Maybe he was just REALLY into composting.
 
2012-01-07 07:57:20 PM
"I believe Christmas has come early for the Szal family," Sheriff Dart said. "Being able to tell an 88-year-old father that his son, whose picture he has been carrying around for 34 years in his breast pocket, has been found alive is something special."

I am sure that is special. Nothing would make me more happy to find out my father wasn't murdered...instead he just didn't give a shiat about you.
 
2012-01-07 07:57:42 PM

DCSteve: johnsoninca: This is why we need to overturn the death penalty.

Am I the only one who read this as a hilariously sarcastic comment and not as an argument against the death penalty?


Smart button pressed
 
2012-01-07 07:58:22 PM
So if everyone thought he was dead, how was this guy supporting himself? It is my understanding that in order to get a job (or a loan or a number of other things) you need to identify yourself. Did this dude steal somebody else's identity or something?
 
2012-01-07 07:59:19 PM
He was 24 at the time... Unless I'm mistaken, I thought Gacy's MO was typically much younger males?
 
2012-01-07 07:59:56 PM
TFA: "After talking with the detective for a while, he asked him to relay a message to his dad; he wanted his dad to know that he was still fishing, just the way his dad taught him when he was growing up."

That sounds like some kind of spy code.

"That's great, son. And remember: the cuckoo flies at dawn."
 
2012-01-07 08:01:41 PM

fusillade762: So if everyone thought he was dead, how was this guy supporting himself? It is my understanding that in order to get a job (or a loan or a number of other things) you need to identify yourself. Did this dude steal somebody else's identity or something?


i16.photobucket.com
approves
 
2012-01-07 08:02:52 PM
Szal's description fit the profile that profile, and the general profile of several of Gacy's victims

oh noes another newspaper dies.
 
2012-01-07 08:02:53 PM

gamergirl23: hitchking: This guy sounds like the most selfish prick alive.

Exactly what I was thinking. You want to never talk to someone again? Man up and say so. Don't just disappear.


Some people don't respect that. You can blunty tell them I don't want you in my life, even though you're family, but they'll find a way to guilt trip themselves back into your life.
 
2012-01-07 08:02:56 PM
"/what is wrong with locking up someone for life again?"

cause it costs us more money to keep him in for life then to kill him and be done with it.

"and he disappeared while going through a divorce? was it so he didnt have to pay support/child support?
farktard needs to go to jail for this kind of BS"

not encouraging this but depending on the family situation that would make sense. the guys usually gets boned when it comes to divorce. whether or not it was their fault they're getting a divorce.
 
2012-01-07 08:04:46 PM
"For 35 years, Theodore "Ted" Szal's family thought they had lost him."

Um, they did lose him.
 
2012-01-07 08:05:17 PM

violentsalvation: johnsoninca: This is why we need to overturn the death penalty.

Because this totally nullifies the fact that Gacy had a 26-person cemetery under his home.


Yes.

Like it's gay.

BUT its fun. as in FARK
 
2012-01-07 08:05:48 PM
 
2012-01-07 08:07:52 PM

fusillade762: So if everyone thought he was dead, how was this guy supporting himself? It is my understanding that in order to get a job (or a loan or a number of other things) you need to identify yourself. Did this dude steal somebody else's identity or something?


It sounds like he was using his own name, but since his family assumed him to be dead, they never looked for the live guy.

Also: They have been asking anyone who believes to submit DNA samples to see if they match any of the unidentified victims.

Are they on a spiritual quest? I BELIEVE, BROTHER! I BELIEVE!
 
2012-01-07 08:10:19 PM

cookiefleck: gamergirl23: hitchking: This guy sounds like the most selfish prick alive.

Exactly what I was thinking. You want to never talk to someone again? Man up and say so. Don't just disappear.

Some people don't respect that. You can blunty tell them I don't want you in my life, even though you're family, but they'll find a way to guilt trip themselves back into your life.


He clearly had the will. And since I had someone do that to me for 10 years, I know how much it sucks.
 
2012-01-07 08:10:22 PM

Mogani: "/what is wrong with locking up someone for life again?"

cause it costs us more money to keep him in for life then to kill him and be done with it.


Nope. (new window)
 
2012-01-07 08:13:00 PM
Transferred to a different hospital?
 
2012-01-07 08:15:49 PM
December 21st, 2011

Yeah, I remember hearing this a few weeks ago.

control-h.org
 
2012-01-07 08:21:17 PM
I have good news and bad news, son. The good news is I was not a murder victim. The bad news is I don't love you.
 
2012-01-07 08:22:46 PM

johnsoninca: This is why we need to overturn the death penalty.


Maximumtrolling.jpg
 
2012-01-07 08:26:21 PM
UR DEAD PILGRIM
I KILLED YA

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-01-07 08:26:45 PM

namegoeshere: Mogani: "/what is wrong with locking up someone for life again?"

cause it costs us more money to keep him in for life then to kill him and be done with it.


Nope. (new window)


thought that EVERYONE knew this already
 
2012-01-07 08:29:31 PM
I just love old news.
 
2012-01-07 08:31:03 PM

RoyBatty: Compare and contrast to:

FARK: For decades, the man's family thought he was one of John Wayne Gacy's victims. Today, the family was saddened to learn that he had actually been living in Florida the whole time (new window)

Very similar, and not a repeat.


Sooo, this means there are 2 "victims" of the same mass murderer that have been found alive? wow. At first I thought this one was a repeat, thanks for posting the link to the other article RoyBatty
 
2012-01-07 08:32:57 PM

fusillade762: So if everyone thought he was dead, how was this guy supporting himself? It is my understanding that in order to get a job (or a loan or a number of other things) you need to identify yourself. Did this dude steal somebody else's identity or something?


Let's say for example, that my name is Johnny Glasscock. Aside from having a really shiatty name, there are probably several other Johnny Glasscocks in the country with very sadistic parents. One of them goes missing. Do you really think the police will knock on my door, 300 miles away, to verify that I am not in fact, the dead Glasscock? Really?
 
2012-01-07 08:34:40 PM
He told the paper he figured his family could find him on the internet if they tried.

In 1976?

I'm going to go ahead and say douche. And one who's not particularly good at lying either.
 
2012-01-07 08:35:48 PM

Yaxe: fusillade762: So if everyone thought he was dead, how was this guy supporting himself? It is my understanding that in order to get a job (or a loan or a number of other things) you need to identify yourself. Did this dude steal somebody else's identity or something?

Let's say for example, that my name is Johnny Glasscock. Aside from having a really shiatty name, there are probably several other Johnny Glasscocks in the country with very sadistic parents. One of them goes missing. Do you really think the police will knock on my door, 300 miles away, to verify that I am not in fact, the dead Glasscock? Really?


No. I think they will knock on the door of the glass dildo factory
 
2012-01-07 08:37:36 PM

Sabyen91: I have good news and bad news, son. The good news is I was not a murder victim. The bad news is I don't love you.


I read it wrong. I thought he had a son. It isn't as bad as I thought. Still a dick move.
 
2012-01-07 08:42:20 PM

basemetal: Upgraded to selfish turd?


This.
 
2012-01-07 08:51:12 PM

fusillade762: So if everyone thought he was dead, how was this guy supporting himself? It is my understanding that in order to get a job (or a loan or a number of other things) you need to identify yourself. Did this dude steal somebody else's identity or something?


His family thought he was dead; that doesn't mean the US government said "Okie dokie, we will take your hunch as irrefutable fact and erase this guy from existence". There is a process to go through to declare someone dead sans a corpse. If no one actually did that, it isn't like the Social Security guys go around asking people"Have any relative you believe are dead? Cause we'll totally delete him from the system cause you think he might be". And they would be especially loath to do it while some guy with all the correct identifiers is using the number. You are in no way required to keep up with relatives - you can move at will, and this is totally fine with the law. IIRC, even if your relatives do send the posse after you, all you have to do is tell the cops you don't want to be in contact, and all the LEOs can say is that you are alive. For all the "libertarians uber alles" that permeates Fark, it is suprising that so many of you basically want this guy executed for not being at the end of a leash 3 feet long. He might not have even known he was a supposed victim - it wasn't like every paper carried every detail of every facet of the Gacy story - the major things, yes, but Oregon probably didn't give enough of a toss to concern itself with making sure every name of every possible victim ran on the front page for several weeks running (my God, it was people dying in Illinois for fark's sake; Oregon wouldn't care until they could cheer on a real extermination attempt, not this hinkie-dinkie amateur-hour shiat)
 
2012-01-07 08:53:53 PM
let me ask this question:

if you were to decide to drop off the radar and estrange yourself from your family, is there a way to find out whether or not your family has decided that you were murdered? short of calling them and asking?
 
2012-01-07 08:53:59 PM

Speaker2Animals: walkerhound: FTA: "December 21st, 2011"

/"news"

Wow -- skipped right over that. And, looking back, the mods blew it big time. Five Gacy links submitted on 12/21, and none of them greenlighted.


None if those linkswere paid for. Plus, "old news" guarantees at least 10I "old news" replies, thus upping the click count, thereby increasing revenues.

/this is what Total Farkers pay for.
 
2012-01-07 08:58:52 PM

noisycat: RoyBatty: Compare and contrast to:

FARK: For decades, the man's family thought he was one of John Wayne Gacy's victims. Today, the family was saddened to learn that he had actually been living in Florida the whole time (new window)

Very similar, and not a repeat.

Sooo, this means there are 2 "victims" of the same mass murderer that have been found alive? wow. At first I thought this one was a repeat, thanks for posting the link to the other article RoyBatty


Knowing nothing, and being cyncial, I wonder how much of that is due to "dump the cold case on the nearest serial killer" syndrome in which police departments "clear" their cold cases by attributing them to a serial killer.
 
2012-01-07 09:12:00 PM

Sabyen91: Sabyen91: I have good news and bad news, son. The good news is I was not a murder victim. The bad news is I don't love you.

I read it wrong. I thought he had a son. It isn't as bad as I thought. Still a dick move.


Eh, maybe his family was shiatty. Who knows? But this is FARK after all...judge first, find out the facts later. And by later I mean never.
 
2012-01-07 09:13:55 PM
I knew this was old news, but I'm glad subby isn't one of those douchemitters who are always getting shiat stuck in their eye or being around things that are overly dusty, like granny's hatchet wound.
 
2012-01-07 09:14:51 PM

violentsalvation: johnsoninca: This is why we need to overturn the death penalty.

Because this totally nullifies the fact that Gacy had a 26-person cemetery under his home.


Where should he have buried them? 26 funerals would have been cost prohibitive, unless his victims thought ahead and bought Colonial Penn Life Insurance to provide enough money for funeral expenses, and a little something for the children.
 
2012-01-07 09:22:45 PM

namegoeshere: fusillade762: So if everyone thought he was dead, how was this guy supporting himself? It is my understanding that in order to get a job (or a loan or a number of other things) you need to identify yourself. Did this dude steal somebody else's identity or something?

It sounds like he was using his own name, but since his family assumed him to be dead, they never looked for the live guy.


Well then, dumbass on the family for not bothering to have the SS rolls checked to see if he was still alive. They even said the guy disappeared from time to time, so it wouldn't have been unusual to find him still alive somewhere else. Sounds like they didn't get along well on all sides of this.
 
2012-01-07 09:24:16 PM

Harry_Seldon: violentsalvation: johnsoninca: This is why we need to overturn the death penalty.

Because this totally nullifies the fact that Gacy had a 26-person cemetery under his home.

Where should he have buried them? 26 funerals would have been cost prohibitive, unless his victims thought ahead and bought Colonial Penn Life Insurance to provide enough money for funeral expenses, and a little something for the children.


graphics8.nytimes.com

"Whenever we go into some country we've bombed, burned and occupied, we always find mass graves full of dead people who were killed by the deposed dictator before we got there. And everybody in the United States acts they're real surprised and disgusted. But, when you think about it, what's a guy supposed to do with all those bodies after he's killed a couple thousand people? Dig a separate hole for each one? Put up little markers with their names on them? Get real, for chrissakes. The whole idea of killing a couple thousand people all at once, in one place, is to save time."
 
2012-01-07 09:26:52 PM

violentsalvation: johnsoninca: This is why we need to overturn the death penalty.

Because this totally nullifies the fact that Gacy had a 26-person cemetery under his home.


Of course it doesn't nullify it, but there have been people who are accused, jailed and even executed for crimes they did not commit because of circumstance, mistaken testimony, convienience, generally being a scapegoat, family wants someone punished etc.I seriously think families testimony should be stricken from the record in non witnessed crimes. Yes, it's horrible that you suffered,but does that mean the first person standing trial should be convicted based on that suffering? How about just letting the rest of the case speak fairly rather then what could be an emotional rush to judgement.
 
2012-01-07 09:31:15 PM

gamergirl23: cookiefleck: gamergirl23: hitchking: This guy sounds like the most selfish prick alive.

Exactly what I was thinking. You want to never talk to someone again? Man up and say so. Don't just disappear.

Some people don't respect that. You can blunty tell them I don't want you in my life, even though you're family, but they'll find a way to guilt trip themselves back into your life.

He clearly had the will. And since I had someone do that to me for 10 years, I know how much it sucks.


Calling him selfish makes a number of assumptions about his motivations and intentions. Even assuming he was acting out to try and get "sympathy" and have them find him, I have trouble calling it "most selfish evar" against the other headlines of the week. And considering the "payoff" took 35 years, it's hard for me to feel much more than pity.
 
2012-01-07 09:49:25 PM
img829.imageshack.us

"Very well, let me know if there is any change in his condition."

[Hangs up]

"He's dead."
 
2012-01-07 10:15:20 PM
FTFA
"[The police] have been asking anyone who believes to submit DNA samples to see if they match any of the unidentified victims"

Anyone who 'believes'?

So just go to every Church on Sunday and take their saliva from the cup and boom...you've not only got a database of people that Gacy DIDN'T kill, but also good CSI-esque info to check against in future pedophile cases.
 
2012-01-07 10:16:41 PM

violentsalvation: johnsoninca: This is why we need to overturn the death penalty.

Because this totally nullifies the fact that Gacy had a 26-person cemetery under his home.


But John Wayne Gacy was homosexual. Therefore, he was very precious and undeserving of such a vicious penalty.

ROFL!
 
2012-01-07 10:19:26 PM

namegoeshere: Nope. (new window)


Yahoo Answers says:
A 50 round box of the Blazer brand is about $8.97. The Winchester box of 100 is about $18.97. Both kinds are the 115 grain FMJ kind. Those prices are in Wichita, KS Wal-Marts.

Roughly 38 cents per bullet sounds pretty cheap to me.

/Yes, I know...that's not how it works.
//It should be.
 
2012-01-07 10:20:41 PM
So, this guy was (is) probably gay (fitting the description of a Gacy victim), going through a divorce (awkward...) So I can see how there might have been some family drama. I can't force any outrage over someone picking up and going west to make a new life for them self. Sounds like they're starting the reconciliation process. This should be a sappy.

/I love my son. I love dead gay son.
 
2012-01-07 10:22:33 PM

schief2: He told the paper he figured his family could find him on the internet if they tried.

In 1976?

I'm going to go ahead and say douche. And one who's not particularly good at lying either.


I always Google for people who died 35 years ago- you know, to see if they've opened up a Facebook wall or Myspace page or anything lately.
 
2012-01-07 10:37:25 PM

hitchking: This guy sounds like the most selfish prick alive.


Exactly.

Knowing your family member decided willingly to "disappear" is one thing. Believing they were murdered by some sadistic clown-fark is a completely different story. This guy is a grade-A selfish asshole.
 
2012-01-07 10:39:02 PM

fusillade762: So if everyone thought he was dead, how was this guy supporting himself? It is my understanding that in order to get a job (or a loan or a number of other things) you need to identify yourself. Did this dude steal somebody else's identity or something?


He left in the mid-70s. Things were a lot different back then, so he was probably able to get a job, a place to stay, etc. without too many questions.

When I got my first "real" job and apartment back in 1972, I wasn't asked to show any kind of ID.
 
2012-01-07 10:44:16 PM

skinink: Selfish turd? Unless you really know what was going on with his divorce and his relationship with his family, the knee jerk reaction that he's selfish is going overboard. Maybe it was for the best he put distance between himself and his problems or do you guys not read enough stories about people murdering their family members then committing suicide?
He said he had a disagreement with his family. So he did what he thought was best.


I disagree. He had to have known that they believed he was one of Gacy's victims and that since he disappeared around the same time his family would believe he was murdered. In the article it said he had a past history of disappearing for periods of time and then coming back. It just sounds very selfish that he couldn't at least have sent an unaddressed letter telling them he was alive.
 
2012-01-07 10:46:36 PM

GranoblasticMan: He was 24 at the time... Unless I'm mistaken, I thought Gacy's MO was typically much younger males?


Gacy's indentifed victims had ages ranging from the mid-teens to early 20s.

The unidentified ones have estimated ages ranging from the mid-teens to early 30s.
 
2012-01-07 10:53:19 PM
How did this happen twice? What if JWG never killed anyone?
 
2012-01-07 11:18:07 PM

fusillade762: So if everyone thought he was dead, how was this guy supporting himself? It is my understanding that in order to get a job (or a loan or a number of other things) you need to identify yourself. Did this dude steal somebody else's identity or something?


No, they could have found him. He wasn't making any effort to HIDE, just not to contact his family. They could have done a SSN search and found him easily enough; but remember that until pretty recently that meant you had to contact a lawyer and/or a private investigator and it wasn't easy or cheap.
 
2012-01-07 11:26:36 PM

cookiefleck: gamergirl23: hitchking: This guy sounds like the most selfish prick alive.
Exactly what I was thinking. You want to never talk to someone again? Man up and say so. Don't just disappear.
Some people don't respect that. You can blunty tell them I don't want you in my life, even though you're family, but they'll find a way to guilt trip themselves back into your life.


Ha. You can always tell who comes from a "difficult" family.
 
2012-01-07 11:26:42 PM

namegoeshere: Mogani: "/what is wrong with locking up someone for life again?"

cause it costs us more money to keep him in for life then to kill him and be done with it.


Nope. (new window)


Depends... (new window)
 
2012-01-07 11:34:48 PM

Gyrfalcon: fusillade762: So if everyone thought he was dead, how was this guy supporting himself? It is my understanding that in order to get a job (or a loan or a number of other things) you need to identify yourself. Did this dude steal somebody else's identity or something?

No, they could have found him. He wasn't making any effort to HIDE, just not to contact his family. They could have done a SSN search and found him easily enough; but remember that until pretty recently that meant you had to contact a lawyer and/or a private investigator and it wasn't easy or cheap.


I just wanted to quote this for truth. TFA clearly states that he had a history of disengagement from his family. I suspect he may not have even known that he was considered a Gacy victim. How many people here can list the names of all the suspected Gacy victims? How would you know if you were considered a potential victim if you had severed all contact deliberately with the people who think that you are a victim?

You might be able to evaluate this as a douche level or asshole level activity if he knew that people thought he was a victim and he said nothing, although in that case I would be angry because if you know relevant information relating to a crime like that, you really need to step forward and save the cops the man-hours and say, "Hey guys, I'm totally not dead. Go find the other victims."
 
2012-01-07 11:57:41 PM
Beaverton? He might as well be dead.
 
2012-01-08 12:11:16 AM

johnsoninca: This is why we need to overturn the death penalty.


Because this guy happens not to be 'unknown body 19'? I mean, just because this guy is alive, doesn't mean 'unknown body 19' just disappeared. Gacy still killed someone.
 
2012-01-08 12:18:50 AM

cookiefleck: How is this a selfish act? We don't know what was going on


Exactly. You never know what sort of twisted crap went on. I knew a guy who ran away from home at 15, turned to male prostitution. When I told him that sounded like a rough life. His response was "Meh, the guys who picked me up at least paid me, unlike Dad."
That must just completely ...I don't even want to think about how screwed up that leaves a kid.
 
2012-01-08 12:22:18 AM

mialynneb: I disagree. He had to have known that they believed he was one of Gacy's victims and that since he disappeared around the same time his family would believe he was murdered.


And how the fark is he supposed to know this? Are you seriously saying that a newspaper in Oregon did nothing but continuously run a front-page above-the-fold list of every person believed by their family to be a Gacy victim? Because that would be the only way someone in the farking 70s* in Oregon would get such a fifth-tier supposition about something in Illinois. And considering that the article states the family thought he was a victim - not anyone else - didn't tell anyone they thought he was a victim, and only said so to the police this November, it would be an Oregon newspaper with an unhealthy Illinois fetish staffed by goddamned farking mind readers.

Or, are you saying they told him, "Ted, we think John Wayne Gacy killed you" and then he disappeared?

With your kind of reasoning skills, you must still believe your mother didn't fark mongrel dogs in alleyways to get you. My God, the skank hookers you frequent must take your money, kick you in the balls, and then tell you they gave you a beej - and you thank them for a job well done.
 
2012-01-08 01:06:06 AM

johnsoninca: This is why we need to overturn the death penalty.


Trolled in the boobies.
 
2012-01-08 01:11:04 AM
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"He got better."
 
2012-01-08 01:49:33 AM

GranoblasticMan: He was 24 at the time... Unless I'm mistaken, I thought Gacy's MO was typically much younger males?


Maybe it's like the Atlanta Child Murder cases, where the police, prosecution and media were lumping all kinds of cases together just to close as many cold cases as possible and say 'we caught the guy!' no matter how random or disparate the actual details.

/same thing happened with the dude who confessed to killing adam walsh, yes?
 
2012-01-08 01:51:34 AM

RoyBatty: noisycat: RoyBatty: Compare and contrast to:

FARK: For decades, the man's family thought he was one of John Wayne Gacy's victims. Today, the family was saddened to learn that he had actually been living in Florida the whole time (new window)

Very similar, and not a repeat.

Sooo, this means there are 2 "victims" of the same mass murderer that have been found alive? wow. At first I thought this one was a repeat, thanks for posting the link to the other article RoyBatty

Knowing nothing, and being cyncial, I wonder how much of that is due to "dump the cold case on the nearest serial killer" syndrome in which police departments "clear" their cold cases by attributing them to a serial killer.


well, you said it first and better, but basically, at this point, why the fark not?
(I apologize for repeating your point)
 
2012-01-08 01:56:11 AM

TheBigJerk: gamergirl23: cookiefleck: gamergirl23: hitchking: This guy sounds like the most selfish prick alive.

Exactly what I was thinking. You want to never talk to someone again? Man up and say so. Don't just disappear.

Some people don't respect that. You can blunty tell them I don't want you in my life, even though you're family, but they'll find a way to guilt trip themselves back into your life.

He clearly had the will. And since I had someone do that to me for 10 years, I know how much it sucks.

Calling him selfish makes a number of assumptions about his motivations and intentions. Even assuming he was acting out to try and get "sympathy" and have them find him, I have trouble calling it "most selfish evar" against the other headlines of the week. And considering the "payoff" took 35 years, it's hard for me to feel much more than pity.


Letting someone else fry for your death, when you're very much alive is one of the very definitions of 'dick move'. Theres a right way and a wrong way to go about removing yourself from your family. The wrong way is letting someone else be prosecuted for your death. Like others have said, if you don't want to be bothered, make a statement that you don't want to be bothered and go about your merry business.

This crap about 'they could have found me if they wanted to'' makes dude sound like a selfish asshole who wanted to cause the most possible harm to his family without actually lifting a finger. I wonder if he got off on seeing his family being in pain for the tv cameras when he was announced as a victim? And yet, they were supposed to find him if they really wanted to? That dude is stuck on first grade 'knapsack and an apple i'm leaving!' mode. Dude is the real life application of the Rorshach 'i will look down on them and say no' fantasy.
 
2012-01-08 02:03:20 AM

RandomExcess: How did this happen twice? What if JWG never killed anyone?


He could have killed some but not all.
He could have had people over who killed folks, and he had nothing much with the killing or the burials, and he took the fall for them because he participated, or was being blackmailed, or he was in love.
He could have killed all.
He could have just been burying folks for others who committed the actual crime.


I don't know the details. When two 'victims' turn up very much alive, anything is possible when it comes to explaining the dead bodies buried in his crawlspace.


/off topic: have any of the Sandusky Second Mile kids ever turned up missing or been reported as 'runaways' around the time they were sent to Second Mile?
 
2012-01-08 02:19:48 AM

mialynneb: hitchking: This guy sounds like the most selfish prick alive.

Exactly.

Knowing your family member decided willingly to "disappear" is one thing. Believing they were murdered by some sadistic clown-fark is a completely different story. This guy is a grade-A selfish asshole.


How would he know that his family thought that he was murdered by Gacy? Is he psychic?
 
2012-01-08 02:28:27 AM

Begoggle: December 21st, 2011

Yeah, I remember hearing this a few weeks ago.

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Few weeks ago? I've seen this story crop up 4 times in 4 months. Either a lot of Gacy's supposed victims are still alive, or this is the story that keeps on giving.
 
2012-01-08 02:40:34 AM

DrPainMD: mialynneb: hitchking: This guy sounds like the most selfish prick alive.

Exactly.

Knowing your family member decided willingly to "disappear" is one thing. Believing they were murdered by some sadistic clown-fark is a completely different story. This guy is a grade-A selfish asshole.

How would he know that his family thought that he was murdered by Gacy? Is he psychic?


I don't know if you were alive or not in the 70s -- or if you lived in the United States during that time period -- but the Gacy case was Crime of the Century/Trial of the Century shiat in the US. You wouldn't have had to have been a psychic, you just would have had to have access to the news. Dude was in the wrong to let people think he was murdered. Was he running from the mob on top of running from the consequences of divorce?
 
2012-01-08 03:29:30 AM

schief2: I'm going to go ahead and say douche. And one who's not particularly good at lying either.


Who knows. Here in San Francisco there are a lot of old gay men who have been estranged from their families for decades. Their families couldn't wouldn't accept them as they were, so they came here and made a life. That's why I have a hard time being judgmental. Families can loving and they can also be really mean.
 
2012-01-08 05:29:15 AM

cookiefleck: How is this a selfish act? We don't know what was going on


Telling the police to forward his address and for the family to send them letters is rather selfish. The family took the initiative to find him, the least that he could do is make the effort of the first contact. Not to mention he is asking for letters, as opposed to the more immediately satisfying phone call.
 
2012-01-08 06:18:21 AM

Bathia_Mapes: GranoblasticMan: He was 24 at the time... Unless I'm mistaken, I thought Gacy's MO was typically much younger males?

Gacy's indentifed victims had ages ranging from the mid-teens to early 20s.

The unidentified ones have estimated ages ranging from the mid-teens to early 30s.


So I was mistaken. Fair enough.
 
2012-01-08 10:22:54 AM
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2012-01-08 12:19:06 PM

"Telling the police to forward his address and for the family to send them letters is rather selfish. The family took the initiative to find him, the least that he could do is make the effort of the first contact. Not to mention he is asking for letters, as opposed to the more immediately satisfying phone call."


Or maybe he doesn't really want to be involved with his family. How hard is that to understand? All families aren't Ozzie and Harriet. Threads like this are funny because people jump to conclusions using non-existent facts.


And if he is supposedly that selfish then maybe his family would be better off without him in the first place. I swear some people must love destructive relationships.

 
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