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		Jamaican prime minister says it's high time to sever ties with the Queen (bbc.co.uk)		47
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devek

2012-01-07 03:35:33 AM

Lol?

Fista-Phobia

2012-01-07 03:39:57 AM

Send in the jump jets!

DenisBergkamp

2012-01-07 03:47:08 AM

Eh -15 relations to Europe but only the US and Russia can invade so el presidente made the right move appeasing her nationalists.

redmond24

2012-01-07 03:52:23 AM

Am I correctly remembering sometime last year Canada needed permission from Queen Elizabeth for some parliamentary procedure?

That's some mighty strong imperialism the British have there. Its in the DNA of the planet.

brainiac-dumdum

2012-01-07 03:53:08 AM

Does this mean we add Jamaica to the list of nations that have more balls than Canada? I didn't rtfa.

KiplingKat872

2012-01-07 03:58:50 AM

It's higher time they gained economic independance from the U.S./IMF/World Bank and straightened out an economy so bad, the poverty and drug trade creates one of the highest rates of murder in the world.

This is just feel good b.s. rhetoric.

A Dark Evil Omen

2012-01-07 04:07:09 AM

redmond24: Am I correctly remembering sometime last year Canada needed permission from Queen Elizabeth for some parliamentary procedure?

That's some mighty strong imperialism the British have there. Its in the DNA of the planet.

You are not correctly remembering. Sometimes the governor-general has to actually do something other than rubber stamp bills but the last time any reserve powers were exercised in any significant way was in 1925. The governor-general is technically appointed by the crown but is "recommended" (in other words, de facto appointed) by the PM.

sendtodave

2012-01-07 04:17:34 AM

Bravo, subby.

Harry_Seldon

2012-01-07 04:50:39 AM

I hear Herman Cain is looking to be head of state.

Hueg_Redd

2012-01-07 05:20:39 AM

Harry_Seldon: I hear Herman Cain is looking to be head of state.

Leave it up to a Fark Lib™ to be racist.

Evilsmurf

2012-01-07 05:23:31 AM

A Dark Evil Omen: You are not correctly remembering. Sometimes the governor-general has to actually do something other than rubber stamp bills but the last time any reserve powers were exercised in any significant way was in 1925. The governor-general is technically appointed by the crown but is "recommended" (in other words, de facto appointed) by the PM.

Same deal in Australia, although the last time reserve powers were executed in Aussieland was 1975 when John Kerr dismissed the Government of Gough Whitlam.

Omahawg

2012-01-07 05:26:08 AM

i don't blame them. i never really liked freddie mercury either and if I hear 'we are the champions' ever again I'll shove pencils through my ear drums.

no, really. that song just sucks.

the man with the screaming brain

2012-01-07 05:49:35 AM

redmond24: Am I correctly remembering sometime last year Canada needed permission from Queen Elizabeth for some parliamentary procedure?

That's some mighty strong imperialism the British have there. Its in the DNA of the planet.

You might be thinking of Turks and caicos islands, which keep flirting with Canada

" On 18 March 2009, on the advice of her UK ministers, Queen Elizabeth II issued an Order in Council giving the Governor the power to suspend those parts of the 2006 Constitution which deal with ministerial government and the House of Assembly, and to exercise the powers of government himself."

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turks_a nd_Caicos_Islands

Actor_au

2012-01-07 05:52:31 AM

Evilsmurf: A Dark Evil Omen: You are not correctly remembering. Sometimes the governor-general has to actually do something other than rubber stamp bills but the last time any reserve powers were exercised in any significant way was in 1925. The governor-general is technically appointed by the crown but is "recommended" (in other words, de facto appointed) by the PM.

Same deal in Australia, although the last time reserve powers were executed in Aussieland was 1975 when John Kerr dismissed the Government of Gough Whitlam.

And every year they still argue about it. Eventually everyone alive at the time will be dead and we'll be free of it.

BarbadoSlim

2012-01-07 06:24:27 AM

Why not go the Scot route and just kill the queen?

EbolaNYC

2012-01-07 06:54:06 AM

Hueg_Redd: Harry_Seldon: I hear Herman Cain is looking to be head of state.

Leave it up to a Fark Lib™ to be racist.

Racist? I don't think that word means what you think it means.

Harry_Seldon

2012-01-07 07:31:57 AM

Hueg_Redd: Harry_Seldon: I hear Herman Cain is looking to be head of state.

Leave it up to a Fark Lib™ to be racist.

I thought I was making a joke for what office he might be qualified for, as opposed to SecDef.

DON.MAC

2012-01-07 07:58:39 AM

A Dark Evil Omen: You are not correctly remembering. Sometimes the governor-general has to actually do something other than rubber stamp bills but the last time any reserve powers were exercised in any significant way was in 1925.

I seem to remember something involving the Kiwis in the last couple of decades where they were about to pass a new law that looks good on the surface but has nasty side effects and the Queen's people told the New Zealand parliament "we are not amused". I don't remember what it was about but I think it was something related to underage drug addicts and the same type of law in the UK was a complete disaster.

I like the idea of a benevolent leader with absolute veto over the idiots who manage to get themselves elected. The current Queen fits that but who knows about the next leader. I'm wondering if there shouldn't be some lottery where 100 people get selected at random and if they decide to veto new laws, they can -- after all we can't trust the morons that get themselves elected.

0Icky0

2012-01-07 08:07:37 AM

Let Judge Dreads decide.

chaddsfarkprefect

2012-01-07 08:08:01 AM

It'll come in the same fashion as Barbados in 1966. I'm surprised it hasn't earlier as Jamaica doesn't offer much more than a geographical outpost for the UK. The UK hasn't assisted Jamaica in the ways and as much as some would like; contrast that with Puerto Rico and the USA which is mutual, and why PR hasn't fully committed to total independence.

BitwiseShift

2012-01-07 08:08:23 AM

Sounds like the Republican dream -- no silly regulations or laws to contend with -- open for business for money laundering, human traffic, drug cartels, father raping, rogering. Maybe the flag will revert to the old Jolly Roger.

There should be a lot more room with the tourists all gone. Rename the place to English Haiti.

topcon

2012-01-07 08:23:27 AM

Prime Minister Portia Simpson Miller

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apoptotic

2012-01-07 09:08:23 AM

the man with the screaming brain: redmond24: Am I correctly remembering sometime last year Canada needed permission from Queen Elizabeth for some parliamentary procedure?

That's some mighty strong imperialism the British have there. Its in the DNA of the planet.

You might be thinking of Turks and caicos islands, which keep flirting with Canada

" On 18 March 2009, on the advice of her UK ministers, Queen Elizabeth II issued an Order in Council giving the Governor the power to suspend those parts of the 2006 Constitution which deal with ministerial government and the House of Assembly, and to exercise the powers of government himself."

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turks_a nd_Caicos_Islands

I assumed s/he was referring to Harper getting the GG's permission to prorogue Parliament.

deadcrickets

2012-01-07 09:23:22 AM

With Jamaica so close to the United States it's surprising they aren't attempting to become a part of it. It's a relatively stable country considering.

ToddMU03

2012-01-07 09:31:32 AM

Sounds like the Queen has no problem with it. Bobsled.

KiplingKat872

2012-01-07 09:33:42 AM

deadcrickets: With Jamaica so close to the United States it's surprising they aren't attempting to become a part of it. It's a relatively stable country considering.

Economically, they practically are. The IMF made sure of that. Watch the documentary "Life in Debt" and see how badly Jamaica has been farked by the U.S. and Europe.

The Gentleman Caller

2012-01-07 09:34:40 AM

Ya Mon, we be freein ourselves from de tyranny of da queen!

/shameless
//Its okay
///I'm not white

BarbadoSlim

2012-01-07 09:36:44 AM

chaddsfarkprefect: It'll come in the same fashion as Barbados in 1966. I'm surprised it hasn't earlier as Jamaica doesn't offer much more than a geographical outpost for the UK. The UK hasn't assisted Jamaica in the ways and as much as some would like; contrast that with Puerto Rico and the USA which is mutual, and why PR hasn't fully committed to total independence.

Well said, in fact less than 3% of of voters in Puerto Rico give a shiat a about independence.

/smarted

KiplingKat872

2012-01-07 09:41:15 AM

deadcrickets: With Jamaica so close to the United States it's surprising they aren't attempting to become a part of it. It's a relatively stable country considering.

And the people I talked to there have no intetest in being any more tied to the U.S. than they are now. They resent the enforced dependance and interferance and want to stay as far away from our foreign policy idiocy as possible. And that's individuals on the street to individuals in the military.

KiplingKat872

2012-01-07 09:46:58 AM

BarbadoSlim: chaddsfarkprefect: It'll come in the same fashion as Barbados in 1966. I'm surprised it hasn't earlier as Jamaica doesn't offer much more than a geographical outpost for the UK. The UK hasn't assisted Jamaica in the ways and as much as some would like; contrast that with Puerto Rico and the USA which is mutual, and why PR hasn't fully committed to total independence.

Well said, in fact less than 3% of of voters in Puerto Rico give a shiat a about independence.

/smarted

Jamaica is not PR. Two different cultures with two different histories. Most of the people I talked to there were pretty politcally passionate (compared to the average American couch potato) and had a lot of pride in their nations independance. I'm not going to say all, but itu was a very strong thread of feeling in the people I spoke with.

KiplingKat872

2012-01-07 09:52:44 AM

As for their relationship with the U.K., the JDF Coast Guard ships may be "HMJS", but a Royal Naval vessel cannot operate in Jamaican waters without a JDF observer aboard.

Oh, and the U.S. hang up with Cuba? They pretty much ignore it and the two naval forces work together frequently on rescue missions in their shared EEZ/Territorial waters.

/Jamaica, lot more than what is in the resort brochures.

UCFRoadWarrior

2012-01-07 09:56:23 AM

Jamaica will never split from the Brit Monarchy.

When they realize it means that they can no longer go to the UK and get on the dole so easily....they will want to kiss the Queen's arse again. Also, dumping the Brit Monarchy means no easy entrance into Canada, Australia, etc...

KiplingKat872

2012-01-07 10:08:41 AM

UCFRoadWarrior: Jamaica will never split from the Brit Monarchy.

When they realize it means that they can no longer go to the UK and get on the dole so easily....they will want to kiss the Queen's arse again. Also, dumping the Brit Monarchy means no easy entrance into Canada, Australia, etc...

They aren't saying they want out of the Commonwealth, only that they want to remove the Queen as their ceremonial head of state. Only a few nations in the massive Commonwealth list the Queen as their head of state, so it really is no big deal. She's just proposing feel good legislation.

Barricaded Gunman

2012-01-07 10:18:55 AM

FTFA: "I love the Queen, she is a beautiful lady, and apart from being a beautiful lady she is a wise lady and a wonderful lady," Ms Simpson Miller said after swearing the oath of office. "But I think time come".

"I think time come"? Is this really the Jamaican Prime Minister, or are we being Punk'd by the lady who brings you towels at the Montego Bay Hilton?

Trance750

2012-01-07 10:55:00 AM

I thought Jamacia had already declared independance

/drtfa

12349876

2012-01-07 11:43:08 AM

BarbadoSlim: Well said, in fact less than 3% of of voters in Puerto Rico give a shiat a about independence.

Independence means tourists need passports.

Trance750

2012-01-07 11:44:21 AM

12349876: BarbadoSlim: Well said, in fact less than 3% of of voters in Puerto Rico give a shiat a about independence.

Independence means tourists need passports.

And no disrespect, but who wants to go to Puerto Rico? We have enough slums to look at, in our own cities.

KiplingKat872

2012-01-07 11:44:59 AM

Trance750: I thought Jamacia had already declared independance

/drtfa

They did in 1962, but as part of the Commonwealth and because they needed help transitioning to full Independance, they played nice with the British and kept a number of political, military, and ceremonial ties to the U.K. British parliment can't tell Jamaica what to do, but the Queen is the ceremonial head of state.

hasty ambush

2012-01-07 11:48:04 AM

KiplingKat872: deadcrickets: With Jamaica so close to the United States it's surprising they aren't attempting to become a part of it. It's a relatively stable country considering.

Economically, they practically are. The IMF made sure of that. Watch the documentary "Life in Debt" and see how badly Jamaica has been farked by the U.S. and Europe.

I am sure that Jamaica shares no blame in the mess it finds itself in; just like those people who bought houses they cannot afford.

What did Jamaica do withe money it was loaned?

KiplingKat872

2012-01-07 11:52:56 AM

hasty ambush: KiplingKat872: deadcrickets: With Jamaica so close to the United States it's surprising they aren't attempting to become a part of it. It's a relatively stable country considering.

Economically, they practically are. The IMF made sure of that. Watch the documentary "Life in Debt" and see how badly Jamaica has been farked by the U.S. and Europe.

I am sure that Jamaica shares no blame in the mess it finds itself in; just like those people who bought houses they cannot afford.

What did Jamaica do withe money it was loaned?

Survived post independance.

But you know hey, national sovreignty is a luxury only certain people should have.

bgddy24601

2012-01-07 12:00:33 PM

Hooray independence!!!

KiplingKat872

2012-01-07 12:06:37 PM

I should point out, before the invitable neo-con "Freedom isn't a right, but privilage only for those that can afford it," statements, The U.K. really wasn't in the economic position to keep them either. That was why the parting was relatively amicable.

BarbadoSlim

2012-01-07 12:11:12 PM

Trance750: 12349876: BarbadoSlim: Well said, in fact less than 3% of of voters in Puerto Rico give a shiat a about independence.

Independence means tourists need passports.

And no disrespect, but who wants to go to Puerto Rico? We have enough slums to look at, in our own cities.

That's a question you need to ask the powers that be in charge during the Spanish-American War. Last I read the USA went there without being invited...yadda yadda and that'sthe end of this discussion as far as Im concerned. Go read about United States imperialist policies from turn of the 19thcentury.

KiplingKat872

2012-01-07 12:12:13 PM

And if I remember correctly, the U.S. borrowed a schload of money when it got started too. The lenders then just weren't savvy enough to try to turn us into a Banana Republic.

Brainmeat

2012-01-07 01:52:26 PM

It's about time. Jamaica is a crap-hole if you aren't rich or in a resort.

plushpuppy

2012-01-07 06:43:59 PM

Sudan, Algeria, Madagascar, South Sudan, Somaliland and Yemen have applied to join the Commonwealth. Of these six, Madagascar and Algeria were never British colonies or possessions

hasty ambush

2012-01-09 07:05:03 PM

KiplingKat872: hasty ambush: KiplingKat872: deadcrickets: With Jamaica so close to the United States it's surprising they aren't attempting to become a part of it. It's a relatively stable country considering.

Economically, they practically are. The IMF made sure of that. Watch the documentary "Life in Debt" and see how badly Jamaica has been farked by the U.S. and Europe.

I am sure that Jamaica shares no blame in the mess it finds itself in; just like those people who bought houses they cannot afford.

What did Jamaica do withe money it was loaned?

Survived post independance.

But you know hey, national sovreignty is a luxury only certain people should have.

Or to be more accurate only certain people can handle:

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