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(Washington Post) Strange To love and to cherish, in sickness and in health, for as long as we both shall live -- at least until your brain injury. Then I'm going to marry this new guy, who's going to live with me, but take you to IHOP sometimes. Okay?   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 90
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2012-01-06 07:16:42 PM
imagemacros.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-01-06 07:22:30 PM
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-01-06 07:34:02 PM
I'll bet she's a Newt Gingrich supporter. If not, she should be.
 
2012-01-06 07:41:13 PM
Walk a mile in her shoes, etc.

/I know, I know -- Welcome to Fark
 
2012-01-06 07:50:16 PM
Okay, I read all five parts. And the story leaves me seriously conflicted.

On the one hand, to a person they all seem happier and entirely OK about it, which I guess is a net social good. Even the brain injured husband seems to be better off than he was: he still has the same support from his wife, AND he still sees his kids (who know have a true father figure and some more siblings), AND he gets more IHOP, which he likes I guess.

On the other hand, it kind of feels like taking advantage of the slow kid, and trading him pancakes for his wife's affections. It also feels like an easy way out for the wife. She agreed to tie herself to him forever. If he's going to suffer, I feel like she should suffer too. Because that's what marriage is ultimately about -- suffering.
 
2012-01-06 08:14:00 PM
Warthog: Because that's what marriage is ultimately about -- suffering.

Does Mrs. Warthog feel the same way?
 
2012-01-06 08:32:33 PM
Sgygus: Warthog: Because that's what marriage is ultimately about -- suffering.

Does Mrs. Warthog feel the same way?


I should sure hope so, what with the way she beats me and all.
 
2012-01-06 08:53:03 PM
Reminds me of a report I saw on CBS Sunday Morning. One of their veteran reporters did a story on himself and his wife with dementia. He and his girlfriend visit her often in the assisted living facility.
 
2012-01-06 08:57:47 PM
Whatever. People divorce each other for petty, retarded shiat every day. This dude is obviously not the same person anymore, and doesn't seem to be hurt by the arrangement. Everyone seems to doing all right. imokaywiththis.jpg.
 
2012-01-06 09:23:13 PM
His love finding someone new. That's sad.
His love staying with him. That's odd.
Taking him to IHOP. That's just farking cruel.

/couldn't be bothered to sign up, was that IHOP thing really in there?
 
2012-01-06 09:49:05 PM
Y'know, that is a tough one. Ultimately, however, I don't think that she should be beholden to a shell of a man and be forced to live in celibacy.

Her relationship makes sense. If nothing else, it's hedonic calculus at its core. Page is allowed to romantically love someone, her daughters have a father figure again, Allan recovers from his divorce and marries the woman he loves, and Robert gets familial love. And IHOP.

Sure, it may seem that he gets the short end of the stick, but it's hard to believe that he'd feel betrayed or that he is somehow being cuckolded. As far as he is capable of giving consent, he gave it; as far as keeping her vows goes, I don't know that there's any reasonable person who would say that Page is truly unfaithful in spirit.
 
2012-01-06 09:56:30 PM
Bizarre, the reactions I'm seeing here. This is a beautiful story, full of win. Perhaps I have this perspective because I deal with the brain injured and their families often. I don't know. I am so happy for this family and so proud of what they've accomplished.
 
2012-01-06 09:58:35 PM
Art imitates life.
 
2012-01-06 10:21:02 PM
www.nndb.com

/ DNRTFA
 
2012-01-06 10:23:19 PM
Don't say the words if ya can't live up to 'em.

/so just don't say the words
 
2012-01-06 10:25:28 PM
Hmmm, ihop?

I'm outraged. They should at least go somewhere authentic
 
2012-01-06 10:25:29 PM
I heard about a guy whose wife suffered serious brain injuries from a car accident to the point of being at the level of a mentally disabled child. He got her pregnant after the accident, repeatedly having sex with her and leaving her for the nurses to clean up. The wife barely knew what was going on.
 
2012-01-06 10:29:12 PM
FunkOut: I heard about a guy whose wife suffered serious brain injuries from a car accident to the point of being at the level of a mentally disabled child. He got her pregnant after the accident, repeatedly having sex with her and leaving her for the nurses to clean up. The wife barely knew what was going on.

Well, as Arcadian pointed out, being married comes with some responsibilities. She was still his wife, so he had the right to do with her as he wanted.

//or maybe marriage is an inherently temporary and unnatural institution
 
2012-01-06 10:29:19 PM
That was a great and fascinating article.

Seriously.
 
2012-01-06 10:29:21 PM
Bah, you took the vows. Everyone seems ok with this but will go ape shiat when someone expects a refund on a non refundable ticket with an airline and are refused.

I think marriage vows should be a bit more sacred.

This kind of shiat is what demeans marriage.

And people say homosexual marriage is evil...
 
2012-01-06 10:31:06 PM
I_Am_Weasel: His love finding someone new. That's sad.
His love staying with him. That's odd.
Taking him to IHOP. That's just farking cruel.

/couldn't be bothered to sign up, was that IHOP thing really in there?


I frequently am disappointed by pancake restaurants. They promise whipped cream on waffles and deliver half liquified Cool Whip.
 
2012-01-06 10:31:38 PM
FunkOut: I_Am_Weasel: His love finding someone new. That's sad.
His love staying with him. That's odd.
Taking him to IHOP. That's just farking cruel.

/couldn't be bothered to sign up, was that IHOP thing really in there?

I frequently am disappointed by pancake restaurants. They promise whipped cream on waffles and deliver half liquified Cool Whip.


That wasn't cool whip...
 
2012-01-06 10:31:46 PM
media.spokesman.com
 
2012-01-06 10:33:23 PM
Warthog: If he's going to suffer, I feel like she should suffer too. Because that's what marriage is ultimately about -- suffering.

Your post lost all its seriousness with this.
 
2012-01-06 10:35:17 PM
Gonad the Ballbarian: Bah, you took the vows. Everyone seems ok with this but will go ape shiat when someone expects a refund on a non refundable ticket with an airline and are refused.

t2.gstatic.com

i say let em crash!
 
2012-01-06 10:38:22 PM
FunkOut: I heard about a guy whose wife suffered serious brain injuries from a car accident to the point of being at the level of a mentally disabled child. He got her pregnant after the accident, repeatedly having sex with her and leaving her for the nurses to clean up. The wife barely knew what was going on.

Is she hot?
 
2012-01-06 10:39:08 PM
Gonad the Ballbarian: Bah, you took the vows. Everyone seems ok with this but will go ape shiat when someone expects a refund on a non refundable ticket with an airline and are refused.

I think marriage vows should be a bit more sacred.

This kind of shiat is what demeans marriage.

And people say homosexual marriage is evil...


Listen, if my husband becomes a brain damaged semi-vegetable, I will remain married and keep having sex with him. But if his weener stops working, I will leave that sonofabiatch in an IHOP with a note pinned to his sweater, instructing them that he likes bacon, red wine, and watching Criminal Minds marathons.
 
2012-01-06 10:39:16 PM
I'll bet those are some wild threesomes
 
2012-01-06 10:40:25 PM
Imperfect people learning to live in an imperfect world, good for them.
 
2012-01-06 10:40:26 PM
I thought at first this was going to be some wierd polygamy story, but I'm actually okay with it. This family did what they needed to in order to make life better for everyone after a terrible injury. I mean, if the husband's father and brother are okay with it, and the husband--to the best of his understanding--is okay with it, then I don't really see a problem. The wife is being faithful to her vows in that she is staying wtih him in sickness, only her role has changed a bit, just as his has. The brain injury left him as more of a child than a husband. If she walked away from him altogether, then I'd be calling for her head, too.
 
2012-01-06 10:41:27 PM
Sarah Palin's Conscience: FunkOut: I_Am_Weasel: His love finding someone new. That's sad.
His love staying with him. That's odd.
Taking him to IHOP. That's just farking cruel.

/couldn't be bothered to sign up, was that IHOP thing really in there?

I frequently am disappointed by pancake restaurants. They promise whipped cream on waffles and deliver half liquified Cool Whip.

That wasn't cool whip...


Windup, pitch, hit outta the park...

see kids, that's how ya do it.
 
2012-01-06 10:41:29 PM
Cyberluddite: I'll bet she's a Newt Gingrich supporter. If not, she should be.

My first thought. And second and third.
 
2012-01-06 10:42:41 PM
He was a democrat that liked to discuss politics. That was be first glaring sign of mental damage. How can you get more brain damage than that?
 
2012-01-06 10:43:36 PM
Le Geno Vert: Sarah Palin's Conscience: FunkOut: I_Am_Weasel: His love finding someone new. That's sad.
His love staying with him. That's odd.
Taking him to IHOP. That's just farking cruel.

/couldn't be bothered to sign up, was that IHOP thing really in there?

I frequently am disappointed by pancake restaurants. They promise whipped cream on waffles and deliver half liquified Cool Whip.

That wasn't cool whip...

Windup, pitch, hit outta the park...

see kids, that's how ya do it.


I would have been less disappointed if it has been a certain inferred substance rather than Cool Whip.
 
2012-01-06 10:44:19 PM
Nels: He was a democrat that liked to discuss politics. That was be first glaring sign of mental damage. How can you get more brain damage than that?

Well, he could be a Republican.

/Turnabout is fair play.
 
2012-01-06 10:45:37 PM
RexTalionis: Nels: He was a democrat that liked to discuss politics. That was be first glaring sign of mental damage. How can you get more brain damage than that?

Well, he could be a Republican.

/Turnabout is fair play.


That was what he became after the brain damage.
 
2012-01-06 10:45:42 PM
I would have been less disappointed if it has been a certain inferred substance rather than Cool Whip

*nowthatsdisturbing.jpg*
 
2012-01-06 10:47:38 PM
vrgogrl: If she walked away from him altogether, then I'd be calling for her head, too.

Really? I mean, I agree with the sentiment of the rest of your post (and I'm baffled by the people who seem to think that she's breaking some sort of obligation by finding a way to better the situation), but do you really think that she should HAVE to take care of him in his current state?

If I, say, had a stroke and underwent a drastic personality shift and couldn't take care of myself anymore, I (as I am now) wouldn't want my wife to ruin her life taking care of me out of obligation. I love my wife, and I want her to be happy. If events make it so that she can't be happy with me, then we should part ways, whether it is because I would be a stone dragging her down or if we simply don't make each other happy anymore.
 
2012-01-06 10:47:38 PM
Gonad the Ballbarian: Bah, you took the vows. Everyone seems ok with this but will go ape shiat when someone expects a refund on a non refundable ticket with an airline and are refused.

I think marriage vows should be a bit more sacred.

This kind of shiat is what demeans marriage.

And people say homosexual marriage is evil...


"Pandora. A planet that once knew only peace and prosperity under the fair and noble direction of the Atlas Corporation. But there were those that sought to disrupt our perfect existence. Thieves and murderers. Perverts and scoundrels. The lawless garbage unleashed an unspeakable evil upon Pandora not known since the age of the gods."

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2012-01-06 10:48:00 PM
Gyrfalcon: Cyberluddite: I'll bet she's a Newt Gingrich supporter. If not, she should be.

My first thought. And second and third.


Me too, but I read the story and it's actually a very touching story about people handling difficulty in a rather graceful manner.

/ But personally I would will myself dead if I were in their shoes
 
2012-01-06 10:48:04 PM
she should have listened to the doctor who said "I can revive him BUT YOU DON'T WANT ME TO." if only obama's death panels were around at the time....
 
2012-01-06 10:50:25 PM
FTFA: Doctors told Page that Robert would benefit from someplace with regular activities and a set schedule - a routine that was difficult at home with two small children - as well as caregivers to manage his medications and his own space to recover in. The only long-term choices were a nursing home or an assisted-living facility.

The first year was difficult. Robert's presence unsettled the older, feebler residents. He would complain to Page that bingo was boring or that there wasn't much to do


OMG! This was absolutely the worst place to place a man hoping to recover from brain trauma. The brain has the ability to repair itself but only when it's in a stimulating environment. A far better plan would have been to keep him at home and hire a nurse
 
2012-01-06 11:00:30 PM
TwistedIvory: Y'know, that is a tough one. Ultimately, however, I don't think that she should be beholden to a shell of a man and be forced to live in celibacy.

Her relationship makes sense. If nothing else, it's hedonic calculus at its core. Page is allowed to romantically love someone, her daughters have a father figure again, Allan recovers from his divorce and marries the woman he loves, and Robert gets familial love. And IHOP.

Sure, it may seem that he gets the short end of the stick, but it's hard to believe that he'd feel betrayed or that he is somehow being cuckolded. As far as he is capable of giving consent, he gave it; as far as keeping her vows goes, I don't know that there's any reasonable person who would say that Page is truly unfaithful in spirit.


I'm more of a wafflehouse guy, but IHOP is pretty legit. Give me cracker barrel any day though.
 
2012-01-06 11:08:19 PM
Warthog: If he's going to suffer, I feel like she should suffer too. Because that's what marriage is ultimately about -- suffering.

Indeed, it's one of the three rings of marriage:

1- Engagement Ring
2- Wedding Ring
3- Suffering
 
2012-01-06 11:09:00 PM
Ouchies.
 
2012-01-06 11:12:35 PM
My husband and his ex-wife were in the middle of a divorce when she had a stroke. Her family blamed him for it then and still do now. To this day he is 100% responsible for her well-being. She'd be out on the street or dead right now without him. I don't know how he does it. Life can be very demanding and unfair sometimes. And very costly.

/CSS
 
2012-01-06 11:12:56 PM
relcec: she should have listened to the doctor who said "I can revive him BUT YOU DON'T WANT ME TO." if only obama's death panels were around at the time....

This thought is what ran through my mind as I was reading the article...and if it were me, I would rather be let die.
 
2012-01-06 11:14:01 PM
Julieahni: My husband and his ex-wife were in the middle of a divorce when she had a stroke. Her family blamed him for it then and still do now. To this day he is 100% responsible for her well-being. She'd be out on the street or dead right now without him. I don't know how he does it. Life can be very demanding and unfair sometimes. And very costly.

/CSS


Well, I was wondering what I would have a nightmare. Before I read your post, it was a vagina dentata. Now it's this.
 
2012-01-06 11:15:16 PM
Dr. Horrible: Warthog: If he's going to suffer, I feel like she should suffer too. Because that's what marriage is ultimately about -- suffering.

Indeed, it's one of the three rings of marriage:

1- Engagement Ring
2- Wedding Ring
3- Suffering


Oh, that's so farking funny. I bet a 'tard like you--

OK, that was kinda funny.

Shortest sentence in the English language: I am.
Longest sentence: I do.
 
2012-01-06 11:16:55 PM
In this farked up world, there are some people who manage to navigate the calamities and traumas they face with grace and good common sense. This family seems to fit into that group. There's no need for the young daughters to be scarred for life due to the father's disability and no father-figure around the house; no need for the wife to be alone in taking care of her family and disabled husband. Must be very odd, even now, for the new guy to deal with the disabled father daily. Compassionate family in a story compassionately told.

/ Goodforthem.jpg
 
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