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(Washington City Paper)   "In my mind -- hell, in my own life -- what's happening isn't just the delayed onset of adulthood. It's the refusal of adulthood entirely. It's not failure to thrive. It's an awareness that thriving kind of blows"   (washingtoncitypaper.com) divider line 352
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2012-01-06 09:05:19 PM

LordZorch: Next time question the sample size, you'll get further with it.


Yes. I understand the CLT. My point was that even if your sample size was 30, the clt would imply a mean that's biased by your sample...because the sample isn't random: they've been screened by whatever criteria it is that you use to select your friends and acquaintances.
 
2012-01-06 09:07:29 PM

MrSid: Note the bottle of lotion in easy reach, heh.


But his dick is definitely not within easy reach, so he's pretty much farked.
 
2012-01-06 09:18:53 PM

Pichu0102: The whole bad part about being an adult is fending for yourself, not knowing when the next person is going to stab you in back, and having no one to help you or support you when you are inevitably attacked.
And all those things you mentioned don't come to most people. Most people have no effect on life, are surrounded by people that hate them and hate in return, live in abusive households that fall apart after a few years, or maybe it's that there are so many cogs in life and if you fail to address even one, your life is permanently farked? Just a guess.
The real world is unforgiving, painful and miserable. It could change to become more forgiving, but we've become so used to living in a kill or be killed world that if a person decides to try to change things, he will be seen as weak and slaughtered for what he has. Probably would literally be killed too.
Every day you hear of hate, malice, rage by simple virtue of being anywhere near anyone else. Stabbings, shootings, larceny, betrayal, fee traps, and that the whole system is self propagating to survive by climbing the corpses of the weak, and I can see why people don't want to live in this world for as long as possible.


Dude, I think you have to talk to someone. It doesn't say where you live in your profile or I'd look up something for you.

Yes, the world is indifferent and uncaring. That is absolutely true. Companies will stab you in the back just to make a buck. That's what they do. You can adapt to that and realize that you should take advantage of them when you can and move on when you've had enough. It hurts to lose your job, I've been there, but you have to pick up and move on.

And I agree with you that there is a lot of evil in the world. There is more good in it than bad, but the good stuff doesn't get much news coverage. If you're feeling really down, volunteer at a soup kitchen or homeless shelter. You'll see a lot of other people that are simply giving of themselves to make a little corner of the world a little better than when they found it. The real problem is that the people filled with love aren't as aggressive as the people who are full of greed and hatred. If we can fix that then we could fix everything on the planet.

My work computer borked twice, so I made sure to post something when I got home. You really have to talk to someone, there is an amazing array of love and beauty in the world. Look at how complicated your circulatory system is. It's incredible.

But seriously dude, pick up the phone today and call someone. There is someone in your city at a crisis line that would love to hear from you tonight.

/Off to have dinner with the kids.
 
2012-01-06 09:26:59 PM

TheWhoppah: Humans are animals. Animals have evolved to desire to reproduce. Individuals lacking the desire to reproduce are genetic failures and they are hogging scarce resources that could be used by breeders. Individuals like the author of this piece should be executed. So saith our lord and savior Darwin and his prophets Watson and Crick.


Or maybe Agent Smith was right, and humanity is a disease. We should eradicate all self-replicating cells with extreme prejudice.

/How can you shoot woman and children?
//Easy, you just don't lead em as much.
 
2012-01-06 09:27:31 PM
Probably a dead thread by now, but here goes. . .

The guy actually isn't that far off on a lot of things. Of course, he said enough stupid things too to easily shoot the messenger. For example, sure a lot of jobs are superfluous -- especially in today's economy. As a society of abundance we can -- and even should -- put up with a few deadbeats (we really DON'T WANT to employ the most worthless 10% of society -- the problem is that the 1% want them to starve, which isn't a moral solution), but his philosophy isn't for everyone. He doesn't want to work? Fine. Put him behind a fast food counter and he'd probably fark it up anyway; we don't want to hire these losers because they'd be a drag on the economy anyway. As a taxpayer, I'm not really all that bothered that he's living off the public's dime either. Odds are if the social safety net collapsed under him, he wouldn't die quietly; it's cheaper to keep him lazy & happy than to hire enough law enforcement to suppress a revolt driven by hunger (ask how that worked out for the French). But if everyone all said "eff it", Fight Club style, we'd get skyrocketing inflation as there's nobody providing goods or services to keep society going. Obviously he's too stupid to realize that, and it makes his rant too embarrassingly ignorant to quote seriously.

But here's where Farkers can either focus on the message or the messenger. Frankly, while I'm not quite as useless as this loser (I can say that -- it's not saying much), my own outlook isn't all that dissimilar. I do agree that most people's notions of being an adult is so much bullshiat. I'm working right now, doing my part to keep society going (engineering), but I don't plan on "working" 'til I die like a good little cog. Fark that. I care more about time and a stress-free life than "things", so I'm holding my expenses down (not having kids, driving the same car, etc.) until I can trade in my career for a lower-paying job I don't give a shiat about. And being able to do that, without outside help, means I've done my part. That's when I'll consider myself "retired", because my stress level wouldn't be any different. Unconventional, but if America has an opinion about it it can shove it up its ass. I want my life back eventually and if that's childish then neener neener. (And bless my wife; she's the same way -- she interviewed for jobs today and is playing Final Fantasy VI right now.)

I have friends who are very happy parents, but they're also awesome parents. They didn't have kids accidentally or out of social obligation or not even due to biological clocks. They wanted to have kids and they're making the most of it. But this guy's right in that most people have kids because they think it's part of growing up, and they couldn't be more miserable.
 
2012-01-06 09:35:37 PM
I was kinda interested until he said capitalism had finally and decisively failed, at which point it became immediately clear he was a moron and I stopped reading.
 
2012-01-06 09:35:54 PM

dragonchild: Probably a dead thread by now, but here goes. . .

The guy actually isn't that far off on a lot of things. Of course, he said enough stupid things too to easily shoot the messenger. For example, sure a lot of jobs are superfluous -- especially in today's economy. As a society of abundance we can -- and even should -- put up with a few deadbeats (we really DON'T WANT to employ the most worthless 10% of society -- the problem is that the 1% want them to starve, which isn't a moral solution), but his philosophy isn't for everyone. He doesn't want to work? Fine. Put him behind a fast food counter and he'd probably fark it up anyway; we don't want to hire these losers because they'd be a drag on the economy anyway. As a taxpayer, I'm not really all that bothered that he's living off the public's dime either. Odds are if the social safety net collapsed under him, he wouldn't die quietly; it's cheaper to keep him lazy & happy than to hire enough law enforcement to suppress a revolt driven by hunger (ask how that worked out for the French). But if everyone all said "eff it", Fight Club style, we'd get skyrocketing inflation as there's nobody providing goods or services to keep society going. Obviously he's too stupid to realize that, and it makes his rant too embarrassingly ignorant to quote seriously.

But here's where Farkers can either focus on the message or the messenger. Frankly, while I'm not quite as useless as this loser (I can say that -- it's not saying much), my own outlook isn't all that dissimilar. I do agree that most people's notions of being an adult is so much bullshiat. I'm working right now, doing my part to keep society going (engineering), but I don't plan on "working" 'til I die like a good little cog. Fark that. I care more about time and a stress-free life than "things", so I'm holding my expenses down (not having kids, driving the same car, etc.) until I can trade in my career for a lower-paying job I don't give a shiat about. And b ...


Getting married and having kids "Because Society said so" is indeed dumb... But assuming everyone that has EVER gotten married or had children did so because "SOCIETY" is just....... egh.

This guys main problem is that he is a failure, and he is casting about, trying to make not only make it everyone else's fault, but make his failure look like an accomplishment.

///That and OMG! Whining!
///Your not a failure, your living your life on your own terms. That's commendable :)
 
2012-01-06 09:36:08 PM
There was a self-satisfied dick
Who thought he would get a real kick
by writing to say
have fun! Someone will pay.
but all he got was drivel, false equivalences, ridiculous, unsupported assertions, and flawed logic


/I actually read the whole thing
//I want my fifteen minutes back with interest please.
 
2012-01-06 09:37:52 PM
It's kind of funny how the things you say often will tell others more about you than you can admit to yourself. Being of use to nobody but yourself? It's called being a child (or a Congressman).
 
2012-01-06 09:43:39 PM
This guy's a hero.

As for the rest of you
-Threats
-Whining that he's irresponsible. I wonder, can you pin down the exact day that you gave up?
-Claims that what you do is important. Get over yourself. Nothing you do will ever matter. If you think what you do makes you feel good, the net result is to make YOU feel good.

For the rest of us, work sucks, and we only do it because we HAVE TO do it, not because we want to. That is my life being stolen.

I want to contribute, sure. I want to be responsible. But I want to do it on MY terms. Instead, we're motivated to work by threats- you'll be evicted, you'll starve. fark that. Let the 3.5 million homeless have free access to the 18.5 million empty houses in this country and everything is solved. But that's impossible, of course, because logic of capitalism is that it's better for someone to freeze to death in an alley than for anyone to get something for free.

And that's what it all comes down to.
 
2012-01-06 09:51:08 PM
My, you Farkers took that article seriously.
i18.photobucket.com
 
2012-01-06 09:52:14 PM
I got to the part where he said he would never have kids and thought, "Ok. Awesome. Nothing to see here." Then I got to the part where he said he was living off unemployment, not because he can't get a job but because he refuses to get a job, and I thought, "Someone needs to kick this kids ass."

I have zero respect for people who milk the system just because they can.
 
2012-01-06 10:01:11 PM

Xcott: meathome: I can't tell if he's trying to be an emo hipster, a comedian, or is a sociopath.

All I can say with certainity is this - no real familial relationships, no romantic relationships, and managed to lose ten jobs in under ten years...


Well, in that case I'm guessing sociopath.


I hate to say it, but this is definitely the kind of person you don't want to be around for long. At least not if you value anything in life.

Do a GIS on the guy and you'll see some of the other stuff he's put out there, including a book. Long story short, this guy is not simply the negative stereotype of OWS, but someone who truly has a scary view of the world.

Thing is, some of what he's saying isn't bad. I think being able to resist going with the flock just for the sake of going along is a good thing, This is a person who's personality and entitlement complex are going to keep them from doing anything in their lives that others would consider to be positive.
 
2012-01-06 10:02:40 PM
RanDomino: This guy's a hero.

If you can and do provide for yourself, whatever you want to do (legally) is absolutely fine with me.

Don't want to join corporate America? Great! Go do something else. Rebuild Haiti. Sling coffee at Starbucks. Grow arugula in the rain forest.

But do not expect, nay demand, that everyone else provide for you while you do nothing.
 
2012-01-06 10:10:28 PM
YouPeopleAreCrazy
But do not expect, nay demand, that everyone else provide for you while you do nothing.

Fair enough. Then let's get rid of this ridiculous notion that houses are commodities and eliminate property taxes, and we can go our separate ways.
 
2012-01-06 10:30:33 PM
I'll bet there's good money to be made just writing articles tailor-made to poutrage Farkers. Think of all the clicks this guy is getting - I can picture him now......

i18.photobucket.com
 
2012-01-06 10:37:37 PM
As I always like to say late to the tea party but I try to brew a fresh pot before showing up...

Ok, on to it, then:

Marriage-I'm pretty much pro marriage (yup, gays can have it too, just one to a customer, please, move along citizen), but married the wrong guy. Am currently happily living in sin and we're both ok with it. No plans to change that up. But hey, whatever floats the proverbial boat. Lots of folks like the steady path and want the paperwork to support it, some of us don't care much for that. You wanna stay single, go for it but don't expect your cat/dog/flavor of the week/ to really care much about your biatching, be realisitic. When you're 50 and cruising the dive bars for hot chicks to understand your inner soul, don't be too shocked if most of them look like Shaggoths.

Children-chose not to have any of my own, for various reasons, some among those listed by the writer of the article....didn't want the responsibility. Due to sheer coincidence, I now share my life with an awesome 12 year old who I love more than anything else in the world-never knew it could happen but here I am. Mine? No. But he's on permanent loan and while he is trying at times, there's nothing I wouldn't do for this kid. Want to see him grow up and become a good adult. It's pretty much goal number one and will be for many years to come and wasn't ever forced, it just happened.

Work-Eh, whatever. I like what I do and as a matter of fact, I do and can make a drastic difference in what I do in the day to day (property preservation, if anyone is interested). I make the day better by telling contractors to do/not do work on work orders, answering questions and checking for things like city/local violations which help to keep many neighborhoods in decent shape even with the number of abandoned homes.

In short, I'm an adult, I love it and I have arrived finally at the age of 35. I am relevant even if I don't know who the writer's favorite band (of which I have probably heard of, listen to and enjoy occasionally) and as some other Farkers have posted, can buy what I want, drive where I want and more or less do what I want. Adulthood rules when you are the one writing the rulebook.

/article writer is a poseur of the nth degree, IMHO
//likes finally having enough ink to write the next chapter
 
2012-01-06 11:07:17 PM
The author also seems to be missing a

underwhere: I got to the part where he said he would never have kids and thought, "Ok. Awesome. Nothing to see here." Then I got to the part where he said he was living off unemployment, not because he can't get a job but because he refuses to get a job, and I thought, "Someone needs to kick this kids ass."


Especially considering how he repeatedly denigrates all the worker drones as contributing nothing to nothing in their meaningless jobs, without it ever dawning upon him that they are paying his check.

Although I have trouble discerning if this is just a smarmy dude biting the hand that feeds him, or a regular dude who is just really bad at drawing inferences.
 
2012-01-06 11:13:27 PM

GreenAdder: MrSid: Yeah they got a word for guys like that, it's called looser!

You have a comma where a period should be. You have also written the word "loser" written with a superfluous "o." I agree with what you're trying to say, but you should still work on your syntax.


Alcohol has no syntax
 
2012-01-06 11:26:51 PM

toraque: I was literally, physically unable to read that. It's like weaponized hipsterism. I tried holding my eyes open with scotch tape while holding the monitor against my face, and the words still would not go in my brain without a fight. Then some guy in skinny jeans came in my office and I slugged him. I think this article made me a republican.

Thanks, subby. Now I get an HR writeup and there's a dude with broken ironic glasses crying into his PBR in the hallway.


weaponized republicanism turned me into a hipster. the opposite is most likely true.
 
2012-01-06 11:26:57 PM

Bio-nic: I'm 31 as of 12/27, married, with two kids supporting two households (I'm working away from home right now because that's what is necessary to PAY THE BILLS. Not outrageous or crazy debt bills, but my mortgage payment, my car, my internet and cell bills. At the end of the day do I always go home satisfied? No. Do I whine and complain about why everyone who is the diametrically opposite of me (like this little self satisfied prick is) should be dragged through the streets then put to hard labor for two or three years? No. My job is to provide for my family, for my children, and since this retard feels that he doesn't need to breed (or at least not be successful at it, thank God) I feel that much better for my kids growing up because they won't have whatever little spawnlings this person and his ilk may bring into the world.

I'm in every respect an adult - this person isn't, and sitting there bemoaning the fact that I'm a horrible person for being so is silly and self-centered in the extreme. Piss off honky, go diddle your piddle until you parents decide they are tired of you mooching, then find out what a real like experience of unemployment will do to you.


While the author is a moran, this repeated claim that working to unhappiness somehow equates to being an adult is retarded.

you sure told him :)
 
2012-01-06 11:27:28 PM

kroonermanblack: Of course, most of the people I know either had kids 5 years ago, in thier early 20's, or haven't had kids yet but plan on it. So this could be an interesting generational gap.


My take on this: I'll be ~37 when my son goes to college(I'm 28 now). To me, that's a pretty good goddamned deal, because I'll be more than young enough to enjoy all the things I missed out on when I was a naive early twentysomething douchenozzle. Now, it's strange, because I live in a nice community and most of the parents are in their late 30s and early 40s, so a lot of my friends that I see on a day to day basis are older, but I'm okay with that. In the end, I'm young enough to play sports with my son, coach his teams, etc and not worry about my back, my knees, and everything else age related that prevents some of my friends from doing the same for their kids, and, like I said, I'll still be young enough to enjoy life after the fact, with much more money to enjoy it with from ~25 years of working and saving.
 
2012-01-06 11:36:01 PM
Whoohoo, bhcompy it's alright dude/ette. We did ok by the results, although they are always out for review. Have kids young and be smartish, or if not of thy own brood, be diligent and teach them how to use teh innertubes weel, yes?

So, vacay in the Grand Canyon, have you taken your spawn yet? We're hoping to next year before he thinks it's too lame, dude :)
 
2012-01-06 11:36:17 PM

dragonchild: Probably a dead thread by now, but here goes. . .

The guy actually isn't that far off on a lot of things. Of course, he said enough stupid things too to easily shoot the messenger. For example, sure a lot of jobs are superfluous -- especially in today's economy. As a society of abundance we can -- and even should -- put up with a few deadbeats (we really DON'T WANT to employ the most worthless 10% of society -- the problem is that the 1% want them to starve, which isn't a moral solution), but his philosophy isn't for everyone. He doesn't want to work? Fine. Put him behind a fast food counter and he'd probably fark it up anyway; we don't want to hire these losers because they'd be a drag on the economy anyway. As a taxpayer, I'm not really all that bothered that he's living off the public's dime either. Odds are if the social safety net collapsed under him, he wouldn't die quietly; it's cheaper to keep him lazy & happy than to hire enough law enforcement to suppress a revolt driven by hunger (ask how that worked out for the French). But if everyone all said "eff it", Fight Club style, we'd get skyrocketing inflation as there's nobody providing goods or services to keep society going. Obviously he's too stupid to realize that, and it makes his rant too embarrassingly ignorant to quote seriously.

But here's where Farkers can either focus on the message or the messenger. Frankly, while I'm not quite as useless as this loser (I can say that -- it's not saying much), my own outlook isn't all that dissimilar. I do agree that most people's notions of being an adult is so much bullshiat. I'm working right now, doing my part to keep society going (engineering), but I don't plan on "working" 'til I die like a good little cog. Fark that. I care more about time and a stress-free life than "things", so I'm holding my expenses down (not having kids, driving the same car, etc.) until I can trade in my career for a lower-paying job I don't give a shiat about. And being able to do that, without outside help, means I've done my part. That's when I'll consider myself "retired", because my stress level wouldn't be any different. Unconventional, but if America has an opinion about it it can shove it up its ass. I want my life back eventually and if that's childish then neener neener. (And bless my wife; she's the same way -- she interviewed for jobs today and is playing Final Fantasy VI right now.)

I have friends who are very happy parents, but they're also awesome parents. They didn't have kids accidentally or out of social obligation or not even due to biological clocks. They wanted to have kids and they're making the most of it. But this guy's right in that most people have kids because they think it's part of growing up, and they couldn't be more miserable.


Yup, have you favorites for a reason.

Worse, I have cousins who are damn near all divorced, with babies in other marriages and all that shot. But who gets bothered at.family get togethers? That crazy single Smackledorf. When is he going to grow up already eh? He only earns more than any of them (not counting the marriage clearly for money to a guy 25 years older). Not that money is everything, or much of anything, but I'd be a miserable farker right now if I'd married any of my serious girlfriends or cranked out a child with them.
 
2012-01-06 11:40:43 PM
And rather, I had put on my robe and wizards hat and fallen shirley on my face.
 
2012-01-06 11:49:31 PM

specialkae: Whoohoo, bhcompy it's alright dude/ette. We did ok by the results, although they are always out for review. Have kids young and be smartish, or if not of thy own brood, be diligent and teach them how to use teh innertubes weel, yes?

So, vacay in the Grand Canyon, have you taken your spawn yet? We're hoping to next year before he thinks it's too lame, dude :)


What the fark am I reading??

Seriously, though, did a week in Yosemite this past year, great times and great memories.
Your other post mentioned that you're raising someone else's kid. I was not raised by my biological parents from age 10 on, but I consider my guardians as such. I don't know if you consider him your child/son, but, regardless, I'm sure he'll be very grateful for the good upbringing later, particularly if the original parents bailed on him. It's a great thing to step up to the plate when you have nothing invested. Much respect
 
2012-01-07 12:03:12 AM

Alpha Sierra Foxtrot: Was the assignment to write a 2,500 word essay on why he's an entitled, whiny version of Peter Pan?


Thank you.

/Seriously, could this guy be more disgusting?
//Being an adult is a good thing--it gives you a whole new world to explore and learn in, and you grow into a better person for it.
 
2012-01-07 12:03:28 AM
I have never agreed with anything as much as I agree with this article.

Then again I am just about the world's most alienated outsider.

Right now, I may be the only one for who this is true, but the way the economy is declining, I expect the future is going to be exceedingly grim for the 25% least skilled employees.

But don't worry, the top 1% will do better than ever.
 
2012-01-07 12:05:23 AM
Not sure if troll, but the article reminds me of this:
Guy Carrying Guitar Case On Elevator Envied By Everyone On Elevator,Imagines Guy

http://www.theonion.com/articles/guy-carrying-guitar-case-on-elevator - envied-by-eve,18053/
 
2012-01-07 12:07:24 AM
If you're not hurting anyone, there's no wrong way to live your life.

I honestly think it's a good thing that people live with parents for much longer than they used to. It's smart economically. And unless you're in a very conservative household, it won't prevent you from having your SO stay the night. Plus, unless you get married young, a lot of people simply don't enjoy living alone.
 
2012-01-07 12:07:48 AM
Guy Carrying Guitar Case On Elevator Envied By Everyone On Elevator, Imagines Guy:

Link

dang it
 
2012-01-07 12:07:59 AM
Cool dude (we are surprised at times by the power of Fark, I think). Yeah, raising someone else's son but I knew the kid when he was a baby and I know his mom and am on peacable terms with her. He's missed out on a few things and since we're in Colorado, wanted to do the Grand Canyon thing.

Very cool that you took your own spawn to Yosemite, I understand that it is mighty and nothing cooler than taking yours or your adopted kids to witness nature's majesty. And yeah for me-his mom bailed on him, big time-so I'm picking up and am glad for it, beyond all of the heavy lifting I know I am blessed even though I sweat a lot at times :)

/kid was born when I was 22 and had the option to marry his dad, very long story, not interesting enough for Fark, I am sure :) but we're all cool in this house.
 
2012-01-07 12:13:28 AM
blcompy oh yeah and although this would be the first time, I'll name the nameless lil'k as my son:) yeah, he's awesome and I love him.
 
2012-01-07 12:13:55 AM
 
2012-01-07 12:14:17 AM
The author needs to google Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow%27s_hierarchy

Without a job he's stuck at the "Safety and Security" level, finding it hard to give a shiat about Love, Esteem, or Self-Actualization. Not that hard to understand, really.
 
2012-01-07 12:15:59 AM

fortean chicken: Aside from having a job I love, I'm basically in the same boat at the author of the article.


That's like saying "Aside from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

You have purpose in life with your career, and presumably pay your own way in life. (The economy being what it is, you or others like you may have had times of unemployment, but you certainly intended to provide for yourself.) The author is leeching off welfare and worse, his parents, making them having work harder and be more responsible so he can be a worthless layabout.

Marriage and kids are optional goals in life. You can have a satisfying life with or without them. But to have no goals at all, just to make yourself a burden for others? Ugh.
 
2012-01-07 12:33:24 AM

Noctusxx: Wow, reading that almost moved me from my happy middle ground political neutrality towards the far Right. It almost as if that guy is actually a staunch arch republican who wants to make as many people in the middle jump as far to the right as possible through reverse psychology.

It is gonna take awhile for the urge to go punch a hipster/hippie in the mouth to die down.


Yes.
 
2012-01-07 12:47:38 AM
I wonder if this guy realizes he sounds like a virgin bragging about how banging lots of hot chicks really aint all that great.... and everyone knows he's a virgin and is just humoring him whilst he verbally digs the hole deeper and deeper.

He's Beavis. But 33 and armed with an expanded vocabulary.

Meaning he's more pathetic than Beavis, because he doesn't have an excuse for being an unmitigated morlon.

So you say you've never had a career, wife, or kids, but you know somehow that life is sooooo much better not having a career, wife, or kids?

O'RLY???

Tell me more, oh wise one.
 
2012-01-07 01:01:33 AM

jso2897: I'll bet there's good money to be made just writing articles tailor-made to poutrage Farkers.


Not really. Good for a couple hundred clicks if it sets off the main page.
 
2012-01-07 01:18:13 AM

INeedAName: I feel like we've built a self-perpetuating system that really, really sucks. Things like hunger, poverty, general misery and pain. We've done a pretty good job of farking things up.



I'm sorry, are you trying to pretend that hunger poverty and misery were the result of society? You go live alone in the jungle, and tell me how much better it is.
 
2012-01-07 01:19:29 AM
Wow, read some of this guys previous articles and you can see him systematically burning all his bridges - getting fired from or quitting jobs and destroying relationships until he arrives finally at the only place he has left: his parents basement.

The drone ranger (new window)

Your Unfinished Basement or Mine? (new window)

Doing More With Less (new window)

He has a self destructive streak wherein he cannot admit that his arrogant attitude is flawed, and the deeper his life sinks into the gutter the stronger his convictions become, because to admit fault after all these years would be the ULTIMATE embarrassment. Think how big your ego must be that it is less painful to live in your parents basement, unemployed, then to simply admit you were wrong.

Instead of admitting his mistakes, swallowing his pride and asking for help rebuilding his life he would rather go down with the ship with his head held high, claiming the entire time that this is what he wants because we're all so screwed up and he is the only enlightened one to see the truth for what it is.
 
2012-01-07 01:23:18 AM

Smackledorfer: Bio-nic: I'm 31 as of 12/27, married, with two kids supporting two households (I'm working away from home right now because that's what is necessary to PAY THE BILLS. Not outrageous or crazy debt bills, but my mortgage payment, my car, my internet and cell bills. At the end of the day do I always go home satisfied? No. Do I whine and complain about why everyone who is the diametrically opposite of me (like this little self satisfied prick is) should be dragged through the streets then put to hard labor for two or three years? No. My job is to provide for my family, for my children, and since this retard feels that he doesn't need to breed (or at least not be successful at it, thank God) I feel that much better for my kids growing up because they won't have whatever little spawnlings this person and his ilk may bring into the world.

I'm in every respect an adult - this person isn't, and sitting there bemoaning the fact that I'm a horrible person for being so is silly and self-centered in the extreme. Piss off honky, go diddle your piddle until you parents decide they are tired of you mooching, then find out what a real like experience of unemployment will do to you.

While the author is a moran, this repeated claim that working to unhappiness somehow equates to being an adult is retarded.

you sure told him :)


So you're contending that he's right because work isn't fun? Therefore it's beneath us? Fark off. Seriously. Snark aside, SOMEONE needs to work, be productive in this country, or everything will fall to ruin, and from most of the responses I've seen in this thread at least MOST understand that. Then there are the trolls and the idiots who think that this is a desired outcome to their life.

Sad.
 
2012-01-07 01:30:17 AM
So this guy's had like ten jobs in less than ten years? How the hell did he find that many?
 
2012-01-07 02:28:28 AM

Bio-nic: Smackledorfer: Bio-nic: I'm 31 as of 12/27, married, with two kids supporting two households (I'm working away from home right now because that's what is necessary to PAY THE BILLS. Not outrageous or crazy debt bills, but my mortgage payment, my car, my internet and cell bills. At the end of the day do I always go home satisfied? No. Do I whine and complain about why everyone who is the diametrically opposite of me (like this little self satisfied prick is) should be dragged through the streets then put to hard labor for two or three years? No. My job is to provide for my family, for my children, and since this retard feels that he doesn't need to breed (or at least not be successful at it, thank God) I feel that much better for my kids growing up because they won't have whatever little spawnlings this person and his ilk may bring into the world.

I'm in every respect an adult - this person isn't, and sitting there bemoaning the fact that I'm a horrible person for being so is silly and self-centered in the extreme. Piss off honky, go diddle your piddle until you parents decide they are tired of you mooching, then find out what a real like experience of unemployment will do to you.

While the author is a moran, this repeated claim that working to unhappiness somehow equates to being an adult is retarded.

you sure told him :)

So you're contending that he's right because work isn't fun? Therefore it's beneath us? Fark off. Seriously. Snark aside, SOMEONE needs to work, be productive in this country, or everything will fall to ruin, and from most of the responses I've seen in this thread at least MOST understand that. Then there are the trolls and the idiots who think that this is a desired outcome to their life.

Sad.


Really, when I typed "the author is a moran" you heard "Smackledorf thinks this author is correct"?

No wonder you got sold on how getting a job and living to work while going home unsatisfied somehow defines being an adult. The author is a deadbeat, but the oft-repeated claim that being an adult means seeking out bills, collecting debt, and then working an unsatisfying job is retarded.

I know you are doing the right thing taking care of your two households, but you know what? The reason you HAVE two that you have to take care of is because of mistakes that you made, isn't it? Whether your extra household is from a baby out of wedlock or a failed marriage I don't know, but don't bust out some bragging about how hard you work as though its some great mark of adulthood. Its not.

One should work to live, and that's it. Now, how much money you need to live is up to you and you alone. How much satisfaction you get from the work itself (which, imo, if you are enjoying what you do, you almost can't call it work anymore, but rather some mixing of labor and hobby - at least as it regards the working to live view) obviously factors into that as well. Any money you earn above that point is a waste (note that this statement doesn't mean you should have zero in your bank account; working to live obviously should include some level of planning for the future as well).
 
2012-01-07 02:45:02 AM
Yeah, the game of life sucks. But to quote Canada Bill, it's the only game in town.
 
2012-01-07 03:48:03 AM
There are very few articles I won't read all the way through for a good fark thread. But this was one of them.

If you don't want to get married or have kids. Don't. No one said you had to.

Convincing yourself everyone else is miserable, archaic and/or delusional because they don't dislike the same things you do just makes you an intolerant douchebag.

Don't want a job? That's fine too. But since you're old enough and capable enough to fend for yourself, don't be surprised if no one wants to subsidize your living expenses.

The only thing being an adult means is that you are capable of taking care of yourself, whether you choose to do so or not is entirely up to you.
 
2012-01-07 03:52:04 AM
I'm still in my twenties. Married twice. The first ended poorly, but the second is...breathtaking. Love it. I have a son. I wasn't really all that thrilled at first, I have to admit. The boy demanded constant attention so my husband and I slept in shifts. I suppose that could break some marriages right off. After a few weeks though, it leveled out.

The first time that little boy smiled at me was the most contented I ever felt. I was the first to make him laugh - a real belly laugh that I'll remember forever. My husband was so jealous the day we were all playing on the couch together and the baby bent down and kissed my cheek on purpose. I can't even put words to how that felt. As tired as I was and some times cranky and short tempered, my son loved me enough to show me. To watch a child learn things is...more rewarding than any job I've ever held. Even the ones I really loved. It sounds stupid, I know.

I didn't think I'd like being a parent. Never. But I squealed the first time I saw him sit up by himself.

Its selfish. Would I like to sleep and wake up on my own schedule? Yeah. Would I like more money? To be honest, I'm not out that much, I don't understand why people are always complaining that kids are so expensive - they don't need every physical item in the world and kids clothes are cheap if you'll let them be. But, sure, I'd like more money. But I would never take back getting married and having my son. Its a more than fair trade.

If this guy doesn't want it, fine. He gets his kicks in other ways. But to suggest that no one who is married or who has kids is happy is and that its unsatisfying and all parents just wish they were alone again is...well, its wrong. I guess if you're not an adult and in a relationship with another adult and truthful with yourself, there are problems. But you'll never know the difference unless you grow up.
 
2012-01-07 03:53:09 AM
You liberals are ok sharing your money with this douche?
 
2012-01-07 03:55:10 AM

keenerb: Married at 24, first kid at 25.

Both kids will ideally be out of the house before I'm 45.

Wife and I will be doing some serious travelling after that.

Couldn't be happier with my life heading in precisely the opposite direction of the poor son of a biatch who wrote the article.


The point is, of course, that all your so-called making the right choices and nice direction can be completely destroyed by any number of things. Lose your job so shareholders can pocket a bit more cash. Get sick and your insurance drops you. Rich people crash economy again for fun and profit. Retirement fund stolen from you in a legal long con.

Your pleasant reality is very, very fragile and just doing what is expected of you is no protection from anything. For all your going with the flow of how you should live your life, you may nevertheless end up with no one and nothing in a scarily short period of time. Years of toil and obligation to end up no better off than the guy who wrote the article.

Which is not to say I agree with the no-job part of the article (although I do agree with the rest of it). But there are a lot of angry, angry people in this thread who are screaming in denial about the fruitless, pointless, and sad shallow monotonous labour of their lives.
 
2012-01-07 03:59:28 AM

God Is My Co-Pirate: Need Help Soonish: Cause being an adult isn't about doing what you want... It's about manning the fark up and doing what you HAVE to.

That, and eating cereal for dinner whenever you want.


Fark cereal man, Mr. Cuzsis and I had pudding the other night!

/woo pudding!
//but not dissing cereal, that stuff is awesome too.
 
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