He was holding what appeared to be a handgun, and when a deputy ordered him to put it down, her refused, authorities said.

Her did, did her?

A. If you pretend to have a gun, somebody might believe your threats, and you might be able to rob somebody.
B. If you pretend to have a gun, somebody might believe your threats, and you might end up dead.
Both apply.

hurrr

I don't get the MSFT reference.

The cops should have recognized the gun was fake and then fired a warning shot or maybe fired a warning shot to see if the suspect would shoot back proving the suspect had intent to use violence against the officer in case he was holding a real gun.

Then if proved to be a real handgun another officer should have gotten a matress to put behind the suspect in case the other officer knocked him to the ground using a fist, taser, jedi mind trick or a 185 grain lead projectile....aiming to wound of course

The wounded suspect was taken to a hospital, where he was in stable condition with non-life-threatening injuries, Butts said.

That's one of them million dollar wounds, aint it?

Giltric: The cops should have recognized the gun was fake and then fired a warning shot or maybe fired a warning shot to see if the suspect would shoot back proving the suspect had intent to use violence against the officer in case he was holding a real gun.

Then if proved to be a real handgun another officer should have gotten a matress to put behind the suspect in case the other officer knocked him to the ground using a fist, taser, jedi mind trick or a 185 grain lead projectile....aiming to wound of course

Also..

Approach, and repeat ultimatum in an even firmer tone of voice. Add the words, "or else".

EdVenture: Giltric: The cops should have recognized the gun was fake and then fired a warning shot or maybe fired a warning shot to see if the suspect would shoot back proving the suspect had intent to use violence against the officer in case he was holding a real gun.

Then if proved to be a real handgun another officer should have gotten a matress to put behind the suspect in case the other officer knocked him to the ground using a fist, taser, jedi mind trick or a 185 grain lead projectile....aiming to wound of course

Also..

Approach, and repeat ultimatum in an even firmer tone of voice. Add the words, "or else".

Then drag your foot across the ground drawing an imaginary line. Say "I dare you to step across that line."

He was holding what appeared to be a handgun, and when a deputy ordered him to put it down, her refused, authorities said. Instead, he pointed the firearm at the deputy, who shot him, they said.

I pictured this:

Sgt. Brad Butts of the Placentia Police Department.

Hahaha!

You can't make this sh*t up, folks.

also... eeeewwwwww....

Am I the only one who can't figure why bank guards don't tell people to take their hats off when they walk through the door?

Oh man... and that was a correction.

[For the record, 9:42 a.m. Jan. 6: A previous version of this post incorrectly stated that Sgt. Brad Butts was with the L.A. County Sheriff's Department. Butts is with the Placentia Police Department.]

Awesome.

Hebjamn: Am I the only one who can't figure why bank guards don't tell people to take their hats off when they walk through the door?

Because they'd be getting told to f*ck off every five minutes.

Giltric: The cops should have recognized the gun was fake and then fired a warning shot or maybe fired a warning shot to see if the suspect would shoot back proving the suspect had intent to use violence against the officer in case he was holding a real gun.

Then if proved to be a real handgun another officer should have gotten a matress to put behind the suspect in case the other officer knocked him to the ground using a fist, taser, jedi mind trick or a 185 grain lead projectile....aiming to wound of course

*golf clap*

The fact that you've got "Replica" written down the side of your guns...
And the fact that I've got "Desert Eagle point five O"...
Written down the side of mine

"Authorities said bank surveillance video may not be helpful because the men were wearing baseball caps and shirts buttoned up to their necks. They also kept their heads tilted down to hide their faces."

That's good to know.

Giltric: The cops should have recognized the gun was fake and then fired a warning shot or maybe fired a warning shot to see if the suspect would shoot back proving the suspect had intent to use violence against the officer in case he was holding a real gun.

Then if proved to be a real handgun another officer should have gotten a matress to put behind the suspect in case the other officer knocked him to the ground using a fist, taser, jedi mind trick or a 185 grain lead projectile....aiming to wound of course

Heh heh

here to help: Hebjamn: Am I the only one who can't figure why bank guards don't tell people to take their hats off when they walk through the door?

Because they'd be getting told to f*ck off every five minutes.

Then those people get an armed guard escort while they're in the bank.

Giltric: The cops should have recognized the gun was fake and then fired a warning shot or maybe fired a warning shot to see if the suspect would shoot back proving the suspect had intent to use violence against the officer in case he was holding a real gun.

Wrong. Only if the suspect shot AND the bullet trajectory was proven to be heading for a vital area of an officer could the police assume that the suspect had intent to use violence. This is to eliminate the unfortunate incidents of the alleged criminal firing a warning shot for the police and it being misconstrued as an attack by some gung-ho commandos.

"shirts buttoned up to their necks."
WTF?

Giltric: The cops should have recognized the gun was fake and then fired a warning shot or maybe fired a warning shot to see if the suspect would shoot back

WTF? Why would you want to make someone shoot at you? If your holding something, and you don't put it down, you get shot. Why is that so difficult for people to understand?

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Bob_Sled: "shirts buttoned up to their necks."
WTF?

This is it, we need strict gun in a bag control laws, now.

File photo of Detective Butts:

Hebjamn: Am I the only one who can't figure why bank guards don't tell people to take their hats off when they walk through the door?

Why yes, yes you ate.

Hebjamn: here to help: Hebjamn: Am I the only one who can't figure why bank guards don't tell people to take their hats off when they walk through the door?

Because they'd be getting told to f*ck off every five minutes.

Then those people get an armed guard escort while they're in the bank.

Not until I close my account they won't. The solution to crime isn't treating everybody like they are criminals.

Now piss off with your authoritarianism you scared little man.

Hebjamn: here to help: Hebjamn: Am I the only one who can't figure why bank guards don't tell people to take their hats off when they walk through the door?

Because they'd be getting told to f*ck off every five minutes.

Then those people get an armed guard escort while they're in the bank.

farkin renta cop can pretend to be my entourage... like i give a shiat. If I dont want to take off my hat blow me.

OneGungHoSOB: farkin renta cop can pretend to be my entourage... like i give a shiat. If I dont want to take off my hat blow me.

If I'm in line at the bank I'm usually fiddling with cards, bills, cheques, cash, etc so I don't hold up the line when I get to the counter like a douche. I ain't juggling my hat as well.

Besides, bank robberies are really rare and people getting hurt during them is almost unheard of these days. If they really want a pic of my face they can set up a friggen camera at face level at the front door.

Giltric: The cops should have recognized the gun was fake and then fired a warning shot or maybe fired a warning shot to see if the suspect would shoot back proving the suspect had intent to use violence against the officer in case he was holding a real gun.

Then if proved to be a real handgun another officer should have gotten a matress to put behind the suspect in case the other officer knocked him to the ground using a fist, taser, jedi mind trick or a 185 grain lead projectile....aiming to wound of course

They should have shot the fake gun out of his hand.

What kind of brain trust refuses when ordered to put down a fake gun? Does he think he can will it into having a firing pin and a chambered round?

It warms my heart every time I read a story like this.

Speaking of Microsoft simulators, any one else excited about Microsoft Flight coming out? Free download being used to demonstrate new tech... Getting back to the series' roots.

Marine1: Speaking of Microsoft simulators, any one else excited about Microsoft Flight coming out? Free download being used to demonstrate new tech... Getting back to the series' roots.

I prefer intimidating sims that sit on my hard drive for 6 months untouched...like DCS A-10

superfudge73: Giltric: The cops should have recognized the gun was fake and then fired a warning shot or maybe fired a warning shot to see if the suspect would shoot back

WTF? Why would you want to make someone shoot at you? If your holding something, and you don't put it down, you get shot. Why is that so difficult for people to understand?

Pretty sure that was sarcasm.