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(Mother Jones)   Will New Hampshire's much-hyped bloc of independent voters give Jon Huntsman and Ron Paul a win? Probably not, because they don't exist   (motherjones.com) divider line 20
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2012-01-06 11:44:05 AM  
Ron Paul I can see being a figment of our fevered imaginations, but Huntsman?

/oh, the voters don't exist. nevermind
 
2012-01-06 11:44:09 AM  
Democrats in NH can also vote in the Republican Primary if they want. You can change your party affiliation that day when you go into the polls and change it back on the way out.
 
2012-01-06 11:48:46 AM  
Paul is gone, Washington DC is soon going to start erasing his pictures in photographs and blotting out txt where his name appears.

Ron Who?
 
2012-01-06 11:48:50 AM  
Paul's trending up and should finish a decent second, but yeah, Romney's going to take a strong lead in New Hampshire. If Santorum finishes anywhere near Romney, I'm calling shenanigans.
 
2012-01-06 11:50:00 AM  

Carth: Democrats in NH can also vote in the Republican Primary if they want. You can change your party affiliation that day when you go into the polls and change it back on the way out.


Now if we could all get them to vote en masse, Santorum (for teh lulz) would win in a landslide.
 
2012-01-06 11:50:14 AM  
I dislike longshots, but I really believe Huntsman has a great chance for a second place finish in New Hampshire.
 
2012-01-06 11:53:25 AM  

Knight of the Woeful Countenance: I dislike longshots, but I really believe Huntsman has a great chance for a second place finish in New Hampshire.


I know the cliche that debates don't get votes but I'd like to think the two this weekend have a chance for eroding Romney's support if people pile on him. Huntsman will pick up some support if that happens.
 
2012-01-06 12:02:32 PM  

Carth: I know the cliche that debates don't get votes but I'd like to think the two this weekend have a chance for eroding Romney's support if people pile on him. Huntsman will pick up some support if that happens.


The big question is where Romney's SuperPAC carpet bomb will strike. Is he going to keep firing at Gingrich or switch to Santorum or possibly Paul? Veteran reporters said again and again that they'd never seen anything like the wave of ads blasting Gingrich in Iowa. Citizens United is a motherfarker.

On Huntsman, he's probably the most electable guy in the field for the general, Obama included, but he's not going to get any traction in the primary. He's too moderate, and he doesn't make enough waves to stand out for people who don't follow politics all that closely.
 
2012-01-06 12:03:01 PM  
As a relatively new denzien of New England, I've encountered two types of people from New Hampshire so far: people with giant trucks who profess to hate Boston with the heat of a thousands suns but drive two hours a day in order to commute to the city that pays their bills, and barn-jacket wearing people who nurture obscure-sounding theories in their rural solitude.

I'm sure there are others, but I haven't met them yet. New Hampshire is like the Texas of New England.
 
2012-01-06 12:07:41 PM  

imontheinternet: Carth: I know the cliche that debates don't get votes but I'd like to think the two this weekend have a chance for eroding Romney's support if people pile on him. Huntsman will pick up some support if that happens.

The big question is where Romney's SuperPAC carpet bomb will strike. Is he going to keep firing at Gingrich or switch to Santorum or possibly Paul? Veteran reporters said again and again that they'd never seen anything like the wave of ads blasting Gingrich in Iowa. Citizens United is a motherfarker.

On Huntsman, he's probably the most electable guy in the field for the general, Obama included, but he's not going to get any traction in the primary. He's too moderate, and he doesn't make enough waves to stand out for people who don't follow politics all that closely.


I agree. I think Romney is going to continue targeting Gingrich in NH Santorum is a nonstarter in the state and Newt at least has some local endorsements.

It almost looks like Huntsman is just preparing to run in 2016. Get his name out there and establish some contacts for a real run in 4 years after Obama beats Romney.
 
2012-01-06 12:08:02 PM  
Huntsman says New Hampshire residents "don't like to be told for whom to vote." He's going to alienate a lot of people by not dangling his participles.
 
2012-01-06 12:36:30 PM  

Knight of the Woeful Countenance: I dislike longshots, but I really believe Huntsman has a great chance for a second place finish in New Hampshire.


I think he's waiting for Romney to trip on his dick again, and Gingbiatch to implode, so he can step up and introduce some sound ideas and actually have people pay attention for a little while.
He's never received the proper time.
I thought from the beginning that he'd make a good run. He can beat up on Santorum in a one on one if the frothboy gets some attention from the true conservative base.
 
2012-01-06 12:50:43 PM  

Pinner: Gingbiatch


Not sure if that was intentional but it made me giggle.
 
2012-01-06 12:53:17 PM  
Here's my prediction for tuesday:
Romney-40% (I'll be disappointed because the only reason NH Republicans will be voting for him is geography, "They liked him in mASS, he must be good")
Paul-30% (His "supporters" (read nutters) are actually doing a toned down job of representing him as opposed to 4 yrs ago when it was all "BUILDING 7, WTC" "CONTRAILS CONTRAILS" people talking about him)
Gingrich-10% (He can't make a good president because his wife QQ)
Santorum-10%(Eww)
CAIN-10%

ALL ABOARD THE CAIN TRAIN!
HE'S PICKING UP A HEAD OF STEAM!
 
2012-01-06 01:35:47 PM  

Carth: It almost looks like Huntsman is just preparing to run in 2016. Get his name out there and establish some contacts for a real run in 4 years after Obama beats Romney.


That's my theory. His line of thought is: "You guys nominated Captain Dumbass (could be Romney, could be Gingrich, could be Santorum, could be Perry-in the end it doesn't matter, they are all morons) last time, and Obama won 43 states. How about nominating somebody who lives on planet Earth for a change, namely me?" He's putting his name out there as the sane alternative that can actually win in the general.
 
2012-01-06 01:46:51 PM  
I will be interested to see how well Obama sells his achievements in the face of FOX and all the wailing butthurt about jobs, which really is still not all Obama's fault, but we aren't really going to be seeing "Morning in America II" so I will be interested in seeing how they come up with selling it out in red-state land. A lot of those 43 states weren't by gigantic margins.
 
2012-01-06 02:54:36 PM  

imontheinternet: On Huntsman, he's probably the most electable guy in the field for the general, Obama included, but he's not going to get any traction in the primary. He's too moderate, and he doesn't make enough waves to stand out for people who don't follow politics all that closely.


Agree. I have a (vain?) hope that Huntsman can slog through the primaries under the radar and emerge by convention time as the only viable and qualified candidate. Even middle left voters should like his centrist approach, pragmatism, and sanity. Not to mention he believes in science, thinks that not all government agencies are bad, says it's 'stupid' to say corporations are persons, he knows how to balance a budget without killing business or the middle class, he has a multi-ethnic and multi-religous family, he is a polyglot, and he's not a bible-thumper.

Plus he has actually turned around a bad economy (on a smaller scale), he already has experience with international diplomacy and direct knowledge of our most significant global rival.

Which should make him not only fully capable of beating Obama in a general election, but might make him a better all around American President ....

One would hope. We will see how he holds up to intensive scrutiny and negative atack ads. But 'ataglance' he looks like the best of this cycles crop.
 
2012-01-06 04:24:28 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: imontheinternet: On Huntsman, he's probably the most electable guy in the field for the general, Obama included, but he's not going to get any traction in the primary. He's too moderate, and he doesn't make enough waves to stand out for people who don't follow politics all that closely.

Agree. I have a (vain?) hope that Huntsman can slog through the primaries under the radar and emerge by convention time as the only viable and qualified candidate. Even middle left voters should like his centrist approach, pragmatism, and sanity. Not to mention he believes in science, thinks that not all government agencies are bad, says it's 'stupid' to say corporations are persons, he knows how to balance a budget without killing business or the middle class, he has a multi-ethnic and multi-religous family, he is a polyglot, and he's not a bible-thumper.

Plus he has actually turned around a bad economy (on a smaller scale), he already has experience with international diplomacy and direct knowledge of our most significant global rival.

Which should make him not only fully capable of beating Obama in a general election, but might make him a better all around American President ....

One would hope. We will see how he holds up to intensive scrutiny and negative atack ads. But 'ataglance' he looks like the best of this cycles crop.


Well, the scary thing is, on issues like the budget, Huntsman is not a moderate-he is in Ron Paul "cut everything"-land.

But he doesn't live on Planet Derp, believes in science, and worked for Fartbango, so he's basically the most liberalist lib that ever libbed according to the Republican primary electorate.
 
2012-01-06 04:56:18 PM  

Geotpf: Well, the scary thing is, on issues like the budget, Huntsman is not a moderate-he is in Ron Paul "cut everything"-land.


Not really. He clearly favors cuts over increased revenue, but he is not a cut for the sake of cutting Republican. And his track record in Utah shows that he is pragmatic in cuts. He may be more than you or I would prefer, but he's not calling for entirte divisions of the Federal Government to be summarily eliminated.
 
2012-01-06 05:46:10 PM  

theorellior: New Hampshire is like the Texas of New England.



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