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2012-01-06 03:00:29 PM  

ubersexy: Instead of lifting, I wish they had all climbed on the car and jumped up and down.

I live near a very busy 4 lane RD. It is more of an east / west thoroughfare that is a HWY on each side of town. No room for more than one car in each lane. Barely that, and the avg. speed is about 45 mph.

Some spandex wearing douche will get on there and ride for 10-15 blocks backing everyone up, and endangering 100s of people before it is over.

What irks me is one block either direction are perfectly good alternative, quiet neighborhood streets that you could take, which I often do. There are also sidewalks that are almost always empty. No reason to endanger yourself and 100s of others unless you are a complete jackwad.

It is a combo death wish / attention whore complex I have decided.


How are hundreds of people in danger?
 
2012-01-06 03:00:38 PM  

theMagni: I bike every day (even today) and there's one rule I follow:

1. Bikes never have the right of way. Ever.


this this and more this.
Didnt matter that I KNEW that they were supposed to yield the right of way.
I just assume that I am INVISIBLE and that I do not want to become a bug-smear.

/on the other hand, the bike path at the lakefront in chicago typically doesnt have cars driving on it. Just farktards with small children. but they bounce off the wheels.
 
2012-01-06 03:02:09 PM  
 
2012-01-06 03:02:34 PM  
The ticket is necessary. It documents the illegal action that you took that contributed to the accident. This then serves as a defense for the occupants in the car when your insurance sues them for your injuries, as they can now argue that your own dumb actions were what got yourself injured.
 
2012-01-06 03:02:40 PM  

namatad: PullItOut: namatad: They should also bill him for the emergency service and his insurance shouldnt cover any of his medical bills.

Should that happen to drivers guilty of an improper lane change as well?

fark YES

dont get me started about motorcyclists who choose to not wear helmets and get into and accident or drivers who wont wear a seat belt and get ejected through the windscreen

/and yes, I know that there is no practical way to enforce this. sigh


It pretty much does. They either wont cover anything, or they'll cover it, and then jack your premium for 4 or so years, until you pay them back everything with interest.
 
2012-01-06 03:04:16 PM  
Looks to me like he got what he deserved. The cops need to start cracking down on these fixie riding, red light running, stop sign ignoring hipster douche bags.
 
2012-01-06 03:06:34 PM  
99% of the cyclists make the rest of us look bad. I don't know why some many of them think the rules don't apply to them, esp given how squishy you are compared to a car.

Stolen and paraphrased from the attorney at my old company.
 
2012-01-06 03:08:59 PM  

Ben Enya: Most Bicyclists are douches anyway, so I see no issue here.


True, I never see car drivers being douches or breaking laws.
 
2012-01-06 03:09:53 PM  

moops: detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: have no sympathy for Portland cyclists. Especially the idiots on doubledecker bikes - how the hell do they stop at at red light? I've only ever seen them in motion.

What about unicyclists? You love us, don't you?

[jrydevisuals.com image 500x333]


That I can handle - these idiots are actually on the city streets:



www.jiffyfeet.com



I'm sure that's the most maneuverable thing out there to navigate around obstacles and the like.

/hot
 
2012-01-06 03:10:13 PM  

squegeebooo: ubersexy: Instead of lifting, I wish they had all climbed on the car and jumped up and down.

I live near a very busy 4 lane RD. It is more of an east / west thoroughfare that is a HWY on each side of town. No room for more than one car in each lane. Barely that, and the avg. speed is about 45 mph.

Some spandex wearing douche will get on there and ride for 10-15 blocks backing everyone up, and endangering 100s of people before it is over.

What irks me is one block either direction are perfectly good alternative, quiet neighborhood streets that you could take, which I often do. There are also sidewalks that are almost always empty. No reason to endanger yourself and 100s of others unless you are a complete jackwad.

It is a combo death wish / attention whore complex I have decided.

How are hundreds of people in danger?


Because of the monster traffic jam they create with frustrated motorists trying to pass to get around the jerk. It forces people backed up 40 cars long sometimes going 15 mph, who are hacked off, trying to merge into the left lane with cars going 20 mph or more faster.

I've seen 2 wrecks personally on that street in less than 2 years caused by it.

I bike all over this town and manage somehow not to put myself and others in danger.

Rescue team: "He's still alive! On the count of 3 we start jumping up and down again. 1. 2..."
 
2012-01-06 03:11:23 PM  

namatad: They should also bill him for the emergency service and his insurance shouldnt cover any of his medical bills.


That's farking stupid. Most injuries happen because of someone behaving unsafely. Seriously, this is why we have insurance. What if your kid climbs a tree (like kids are or at least were wont to do when they play outside) and falls off and breaks his leg. Should insurance not cover this since he was "doing something unsafe and stupid?"

Seriously, I hate douchebag bicyclists (and bikers, and drivers, and truckers, etc) as much as the next Farker, and I totally agree with him getting cited, but if he's insured, his insurance should still cover his medical.
 
2012-01-06 03:11:41 PM  

Fairlane500: Looks to me like he got what he deserved. The cops need to start cracking down on these fixie riding, red light running, stop sign ignoring hipster douche bags.


As a cyclist commuter, please allow me to buy you a coffee sometime.

//a few people are ruining it for all of us
 
2012-01-06 03:12:10 PM  

cretinbob: Don't change lanes illegally and you won't get run over by a car.
Around here we have a problem with pedestrians who step off the sidewalk in front of cars, "because the law says cars have to stop".
Of course the laws of physics overrule the laws of man more often than not.


People do that here in Chicagoland. I've lived in many places all over the country. Rural, urban, both coasts, midwest, etc. and this is the first time I've seen it as commonplace. People will just step out into the street and expect cars to stop. It's amazing.

At the same time, it's also the place with drivers who seem to care the least about pedestrians. I've been honked at while in the crosswalk with a walk signal. I've had to literally jump out of the way of cars sailing into a crosswalk at a stop sign/red light as if that's where their car belonged. I've seen people wait for 2-3 minutes before a car will finally yield to them at a crosswalk with a multiple clearly marked ped xing signs. There's no social contract between pedestrians and drivers and I'm surprised that I have yet to see anyone get hit.
 
2012-01-06 03:16:33 PM  

detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: I'm sure that's the most maneuverable thing out there to navigate around obstacles and the like.


can someone explain those things to me? I don't even
 
2012-01-06 03:20:22 PM  

ubersexy: squegeebooo: ubersexy: Instead of lifting, I wish they had all climbed on the car and jumped up and down.

I live near a very busy 4 lane RD. It is more of an east / west thoroughfare that is a HWY on each side of town. No room for more than one car in each lane. Barely that, and the avg. speed is about 45 mph.

Some spandex wearing douche will get on there and ride for 10-15 blocks backing everyone up, and endangering 100s of people before it is over.

What irks me is one block either direction are perfectly good alternative, quiet neighborhood streets that you could take, which I often do. There are also sidewalks that are almost always empty. No reason to endanger yourself and 100s of others unless you are a complete jackwad.

It is a combo death wish / attention whore complex I have decided.

How are hundreds of people in danger?

Because of the monster traffic jam they create with frustrated motorists trying to pass to get around the jerk. It forces people backed up 40 cars long sometimes going 15 mph, who are hacked off, trying to merge into the left lane with cars going 20 mph or more faster.

I've seen 2 wrecks personally on that street in less than 2 years caused by it.

I bike all over this town and manage somehow not to put myself and others in danger.

Rescue team: "He's still alive! On the count of 3 we start jumping up and down again. 1. 2..."


Sounds like the wrecks were caused by peoples inability to merge, not the cyclist. And if the other lanes are really moving that much faster then there are holes to merge into easily. If traffic was really as busy a you claim it would slow down to near 20 mph naturally which has the cyclist going at or near traffic speed and no longer a nuisance. At least in my city.
 
2012-01-06 03:25:20 PM  

ubersexy: squegeebooo: ubersexy: Instead of lifting, I wish they had all climbed on the car and jumped up and down.

I live near a very busy 4 lane RD. It is more of an east / west thoroughfare that is a HWY on each side of town. No room for more than one car in each lane. Barely that, and the avg. speed is about 45 mph.

Some spandex wearing douche will get on there and ride for 10-15 blocks backing everyone up, and endangering 100s of people before it is over.

What irks me is one block either direction are perfectly good alternative, quiet neighborhood streets that you could take, which I often do. There are also sidewalks that are almost always empty. No reason to endanger yourself and 100s of others unless you are a complete jackwad.

It is a combo death wish / attention whore complex I have decided.

How are hundreds of people in danger?

Because of the monster traffic jam they create with frustrated motorists trying to pass to get around the jerk. It forces people backed up 40 cars long sometimes going 15 mph, who are hacked off, trying to merge into the left lane with cars going 20 mph or more faster.

I've seen 2 wrecks personally on that street in less than 2 years caused by it.

I bike all over this town and manage somehow not to put myself and others in danger.

Rescue team: "He's still alive! On the count of 3 we start jumping up and down again. 1. 2..."


Then basically its the fault of the motorists who caused the accident - not a slowdown in traffic. Now I will acknowledge many cyclists are douchebag extraordinaires for holding up that much traffic, but from a legal standpoint they are okay as long as there are no state laws stating a slow-moving vehicle/bike must pull over if a certain number of vehicles is behind them. But as far as cause, it is not the responsibility of a cyclist to make sure other driver's follow the rules of the road.

/ Ride all manner of roads/highways/streets in just about every weather condition except snow
// Have a huge-ass helmet mirror
/// Have had to offroad it more then a few times due to shiatty/drunk drivers and fat douchenozzles in their penis-extension jacked up trucks
 
2012-01-06 03:25:42 PM  
Most bicyclists have the same concept of the word share that my three year old does.
 
2012-01-06 03:27:00 PM  

fireclown: detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: I'm sure that's the most maneuverable thing out there to navigate around obstacles and the like.

can someone explain those things to me? I don't even


EVERYBODY is riding normal bikes now... They need something to set them apart from the normal rabble now I guess.
 
2012-01-06 03:27:32 PM  
A Chevy HHR and a Portland cyclist? I can't decide who I want to lose more...
 
2012-01-06 03:28:16 PM  

theMagni: I bike every day (even today) and there's one rule I follow:

1. Bikes never have the right of way. Ever.


I've learned to follow the same rule.
 
2012-01-06 03:29:49 PM  

detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: I had a cyclist almost run me over yesterday on the Burnside bridge. There are bike lanes on both sides moran! Not only was he on the sidewalk but he was going against traffic. Hipster on a fixie - tremendous douchcanoe. But his ironic mustache was gloriously flapping in the breeze as he passed. I have no sympathy for Portland cyclists. Especially the idiots on doubledecker bikes - how the hell do they stop at at red light? I've only ever seen them in motion


I have had that happen a couple off times, for some strange reason it startles me and I jerk my arms out knocking Capt. Hipster off the bike. This will result in 10 seconds of tough guy as he comprehends that I am very large and not too happy looking, followed by a call to the cops screaming Assault and battery. This is followed by the Cops showing up taking their statement, then asking me what happened where I tell them that Capt Hipster on his "fixie" startled me and I reacted to getting almost ran over by flailing my arms. This results in the Cops then issuing a citation for riding on the Sidewalk and operating an unsafe vehicle -yes you are supposed to have breaks Douche bag!

Its amazing I just started riding gain after medical issues and I seem to be able to do my 10 mile rides with out breaking any laws, I guess I must be unhip or something.
 
2012-01-06 03:33:53 PM  
In Phoenix, the DPS will pull in behind you, help you change the flat tire, then promptly ticket you for parking in the gore zone.
 
2012-01-06 03:33:57 PM  
squegeeboo wrote "Sounds like the wrecks were caused by peoples inability to merge, not the cyclist. And if the other lanes are really moving that much faster then there are holes to merge into easily. If traffic was really as busy a you claim it would slow down to near 20 mph naturally which has the cyclist going at or near traffic speed and no longer a nuisance. At least in my city."

I agree with your theory that people suck as drivers. Hell most people can't negotiate a shopping cart through a grocery store aisle without being obnoxious jerks.

I still don't want to push the theory on a bicycle next to hundreds of irate drivers when you can go one block over. I can get anywhere, pretty much, and only use quiet streets, streets with dedicated bike lanes, and bike paths etc. in this town.

Heck I even drive my truck avoiding most thoroughfares during rush hour. It amazes me to see a sea of cars backed up and I can move over a block and just cruise happily along. People are lemmings.
 
2012-01-06 03:35:22 PM  

Latinwolf: And if this was a car driver instead of it being a bike rider, the Farkers in this thread would be complaining about the cops giving this guy a ticket.


Hunh?

Are you imbibing early on the east coast, or for brunch on the west?

Someone (in car or on bike) changed lanes illegally. Was involved in an accident. Got an at fault ticket.

Why your confusion?
 
2012-01-06 03:39:06 PM  

DVDave: In Phoenix, the DPS will pull in behind you, help you change the flat tire, then promptly ticket you for parking in the gore zone.


Gore Zone? Is Phoenix a giant Gwar concert?
 
2012-01-06 03:44:28 PM  

theMagni:

1. Bikes never have the right of way. Ever.


1a. Pedestrians never have the right of way. Ever.


/ I walk as much as I can, but never, ever trust drivers to stop for me
 
2012-01-06 03:44:34 PM  

ubersexy: squegeeboo wrote "Sounds like the wrecks were caused by peoples inability to merge, not the cyclist. And if the other lanes are really moving that much faster then there are holes to merge into easily. If traffic was really as busy a you claim it would slow down to near 20 mph naturally which has the cyclist going at or near traffic speed and no longer a nuisance. At least in my city."

I agree with your theory that people suck as drivers. Hell most people can't negotiate a shopping cart through a grocery store aisle without being obnoxious jerks.

I still don't want to push the theory on a bicycle next to hundreds of irate drivers when you can go one block over. I can get anywhere, pretty much, and only use quiet streets, streets with dedicated bike lanes, and bike paths etc. in this town.

Heck I even drive my truck avoiding most thoroughfares during rush hour. It amazes me to see a sea of cars backed up and I can move over a block and just cruise happily along. People are lemmings.


My guess would be the side street has a bunch of stop signs/lights. Cyclists hate losing momentum. Also thanks for abridging the chain, no idea how to on my phone.
 
2012-01-06 03:47:24 PM  

Elzar: ubersexy: squegeebooo: ubersexy: Instead of lifting, I wish they had all climbed on the car and jumped up and down.

I live near a very busy 4 lane RD. It is more of an east / west thoroughfare that is a HWY on each side of town. No room for more than one car in each lane. Barely that, and the avg. speed is about 45 mph.

Some spandex wearing douche will get on there and ride for 10-15 blocks backing everyone up, and endangering 100s of people before it is over.

What irks me is one block either direction are perfectly good alternative, quiet neighborhood streets that you could take, which I often do. There are also sidewalks that are almost always empty. No reason to endanger yourself and 100s of others unless you are a complete jackwad.

It is a combo death wish / attention whore complex I have decided.

How are hundreds of people in danger?

Because of the monster traffic jam they create with frustrated motorists trying to pass to get around the jerk. It forces people backed up 40 cars long sometimes going 15 mph, who are hacked off, trying to merge into the left lane with cars going 20 mph or more faster.

I've seen 2 wrecks personally on that street in less than 2 years caused by it.

I bike all over this town and manage somehow not to put myself and others in danger.

Rescue team: "He's still alive! On the count of 3 we start jumping up and down again. 1. 2..."

Then basically its the fault of the motorists who caused the accident - not a slowdown in traffic. Now I will acknowledge many cyclists are douchebag extraordinaires for holding up that much traffic, but from a legal standpoint they are okay as long as there are no state laws stating a slow-moving vehicle/bike must pull over if a certain number of vehicles is behind them. But as far as cause, it is not the responsibility of a cyclist to make sure other driver's follow the rules of the road.

/ Ride all manner of roads/highways/streets in just about every weather condition except snow
// Have a huge-ass ...


California has that law, but I have never seen a cyclist stop in a turn out to allow cars to pass.
 
2012-01-06 03:50:25 PM  

Elzar: Then basically its the fault of the motorists who caused the accident - not a slowdown in traffic. Now I will acknowledge many cyclists are douchebag extraordinaires for holding up that much traffic, but from a legal standpoint they are okay as long as there are no state laws stating a slow-moving vehicle/bike must pull over if a certain number of vehicles is behind them. But as far as cause, it is not the responsibility of a cyclist to make sure other driver's follow the rules of the road.


You admit it is wrong to do it, then defend it.

Do you know you just outted yourself as a full blown douchebag?

Elzar: /// Have had to offroad it more then a few times due to shiatty/drunk drivers and fat douchenozzles in their penis-extension jacked up trucks


Oh. Nevermind.
 
2012-01-06 03:53:04 PM  
I love riding my bike. My commute is five miles on a coastal rec trail. I do not understand hipsters on fixies. If someone could explain why its better to have no brakes or gears I would buy that person a keg.
 
2012-01-06 03:55:37 PM  

crotchgrabber: I love riding my bike. My commute is five miles on a coastal rec trail. I do not understand hipsters on fixies. If someone could explain why its better to have no brakes or gears I would buy that person a keg.


Maintenance.

Keg please?
 
2012-01-06 04:02:29 PM  

ubersexy: What irks me is one block either direction are perfectly good alternative, quiet neighborhood streets that you could take, which I often do. There are also sidewalks that are almost always empty. No reason to endanger yourself and 100s of others unless you are a complete jackwad.



First, how about not having clairvoyant encyclopedic knowledge of side streets? Cyclists also want to get from point A to point B. They have the same information somebody passing through in a car does. The don't know that there's some better street a couple of blocks away.

Second, secondary streets are just that- secondary. They often don't really go from point A to point B. They have frequent stop signs or stop lights. They are probably back for cycling for the same reasons they'd be bad for driving.

If I'm in a part of town I don't know terribly well, I'll probably be riding on same streets i would drive on- the main ones.

If you want bikes to have the same responsibilities as cars, then they get the same rights, right? Personally I think treating bikes like cars is dumb, but if that's what we're going to do, then take the bad with the good.
 
2012-01-06 04:04:52 PM  

crotchgrabber: I love riding my bike. My commute is five miles on a coastal rec trail. I do not understand hipsters on fixies. If someone could explain why its better to have no brakes or gears I would buy that person a keg.


I don't do it myself, as I like gears, but:

-Lighter
-Fewer parts to maintain
-Good for all-season riding in snow/salt/rain with fewer parts to clog.
-No bits to steal off.
-Fixed gears provide good fitness benefits.
-relatively cheap.

/I am looking for a single-speed for winter commuting.
 
2012-01-06 04:05:24 PM  

GaryPDX: This is Portlandia where cyclists are road warrior jack wads. I've had some of these clowns bolt right in front my 9000lb truck, slap my hood and flip me off at 30 mph. This clown should have gotten a bigger ticket.

/no sympathy here


but ... but .... bike rights!!!!

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i just love how these fools love to quote statutes about bikes having legal right to ride in the road, but always miss the part about "shall not impede traffic".

therefore, i've devised my own means of keeping everyone safe; if you ride your bike on the street (with no bike lane designated) i honk at you when i'm about to pass. it's for safety.

/also for giggles
//raging hipster on fixie is funny to me
///commuted by bike for 5 years here in Ptown & did so without breaking every traffic law known to man
 
2012-01-06 04:10:49 PM  

moops: GaryPDX: This is Portlandia where cyclists are road warrior jack wads. I've had some of these clowns bolt right in front my 9000lb truck, slap my hood and flip me off at 30 mph. This clown should have gotten a bigger ticket.

/no sympathy here

Your overweight car-addicted ass isn't needed here. Stay in Washington County, Gary_Beaverton.

That being said, it's not a great idea to bike on MLK or Grand - they are busy streets without bike lanes. There's a bike boulevard just a block or two over.


o lookie here !! a true biker douche!! does your sanctimony weigh you down?? or do you cover yourself in it to cut down on wind resistance?

that being said: i stand truly amazed that a biker douche in this town could fathom the idea to stay the hell off busy streets with no bike lane. next will be you actually taking responsibility for your actions.

wonders.... do they every cease??
 
2012-01-06 04:11:56 PM  

inner ted: ///commuted by bike for 5 years here in Ptown & did so without breaking every traffic law known to man



Sorry, the facts of whether or not you complied with laws doesn't matter. All bikers are bad, and possibly hipsters.
 
2012-01-06 04:15:13 PM  

inner ted: moops: GaryPDX: This is Portlandia where cyclists are road warrior jack wads. I've had some of these clowns bolt right in front my 9000lb truck, slap my hood and flip me off at 30 mph. This clown should have gotten a bigger ticket.

/no sympathy here

Your overweight car-addicted ass isn't needed here. Stay in Washington County, Gary_Beaverton.

That being said, it's not a great idea to bike on MLK or Grand - they are busy streets without bike lanes. There's a bike boulevard just a block or two over.

o lookie here !! a true biker douche!! does your sanctimony weigh you down?? or do you cover yourself in it to cut down on wind resistance?

that being said: i stand truly amazed that a biker douche in this town could fathom the idea to stay the hell off busy streets with no bike lane. next will be you actually taking responsibility for your actions.

wonders.... do they every cease??


It's very clear that you're a suburbanite with a big chip on your shoulder. You are Gary should be great together. Clackamas or Washington County?
 
2012-01-06 04:17:42 PM  
Whatever the vehicle may be, don't drive/ride/skate/pogo in a dangerous manner.
 
2012-01-06 04:18:56 PM  

inner ted: moops: GaryPDX: This is Portlandia where cyclists are road warrior jack wads. I've had some of these clowns bolt right in front my 9000lb truck, slap my hood and flip me off at 30 mph. This clown should have gotten a bigger ticket.

/no sympathy here

Your overweight car-addicted ass isn't needed here. Stay in Washington County, Gary_Beaverton.

That being said, it's not a great idea to bike on MLK or Grand - they are busy streets without bike lanes. There's a bike boulevard just a block or two over.

o lookie here !! a true biker douche!! does your sanctimony weigh you down?? or do you cover yourself in it to cut down on wind resistance?

that being said: i stand truly amazed that a biker douche in this town could fathom the idea to stay the hell off busy streets with no bike lane. next will be you actually taking responsibility for your actions.

wonders.... do they every cease??


Bike lanes are dangerous, better off picking routes with out. Cars forget all about them when making right hand turns, or use them for easy parking forcing the cyclist to merge into traffic. At least in Rochester, I'm sure bike friendly towns have more aware drivers.
 
2012-01-06 04:19:37 PM  

moops: GaryPDX: This is Portlandia where cyclists are road warrior jack wads. I've had some of these clowns bolt right in front my 9000lb truck, slap my hood and flip me off at 30 mph. This clown should have gotten a bigger ticket.

/no sympathy here

Your overweight car-addicted ass isn't needed here. Stay in Washington County, Gary_Beaverton.

That being said, it's not a great idea to bike on MLK or Grand - they are busy streets without bike lanes. There's a bike boulevard just a block or two over.


Sounds like someone is a little butt-hurt about being called out for being the sort of selfish jackass who thinks that bikers don't have to follow traffic laws.
 
2012-01-06 04:31:09 PM  

moops: inner ted: moops: GaryPDX: This is Portlandia where cyclists are road warrior jack wads. I've had some of these clowns bolt right in front my 9000lb truck, slap my hood and flip me off at 30 mph. This clown should have gotten a bigger ticket.

/no sympathy here

Your overweight car-addicted ass isn't needed here. Stay in Washington County, Gary_Beaverton.

That being said, it's not a great idea to bike on MLK or Grand - they are busy streets without bike lanes. There's a bike boulevard just a block or two over.

o lookie here !! a true biker douche!! does your sanctimony weigh you down?? or do you cover yourself in it to cut down on wind resistance?

that being said: i stand truly amazed that a biker douche in this town could fathom the idea to stay the hell off busy streets with no bike lane. next will be you actually taking responsibility for your actions.

wonders.... do they every cease??

It's very clear that you're a suburbanite with a big chip on your shoulder. You are Gary should be great together. Clackamas or Washington County?


wow
the only thing 'very clear' here is that you are a biker with a huge sense of superiority & entitlement & a real knack for making a lot of assumptions.

& a bit of a prick to boot.

something tells me that you recently moved here, probably from back east.

i've probably ridden more miles commuting in this town than you, i'm just not an overblown a hole about it. i don't look at people in cars as "cagers" or that they are all fat. i also mind the laws of the road and have the brains to realize that this entire town can be navigated via bike lane with hardly ever a need to ride on 'non bike lane' streets.

but keep on assuming that portland ends at 39th & that everything after is just WalMarts & trailer parks. and that we all care about your singlespeed & nosering.

it doesn't & we don't
 
2012-01-06 04:33:04 PM  
I live out in the country. Nothing bugs me more than some cyclist thinking my road (yes it's a private, paved road) is a nice scenic detour. So I invite them for coffee and explain that this is a private drive and please call before using it.

What? Did you think I'd shoot at them or something?

PS. I do the same thing to Jehovah's Witnesses. They know I'm always good for a lemonade and cookies.
 
2012-01-06 04:34:03 PM  
I hit a guy in a very similar situation. It knocked him forward, bent his tire, and made his day all sorts of bad. I could have stopped. I slowed down. Hopefully they learned their lesson. I haven't seen 'em since. He didn't get a ticket, nor did I (I was in the right). He did try to sue my insurance company for quite a bit of money (How is a rear tire, an ER visit, and his pride worth like 12k anyhow?) but they never paid him anything nor have my rates gone up.
 
2012-01-06 04:34:39 PM  

Ben Enya: [I troll bike threads.jpg]


Funny thing is, there are little to no bicyclists in my town. These threads are the only reason I know they're class A asshats.

/that and my hipster douche cousin that got a 'fixie' last xmas
//who's only a hipster douchebag when his friends are around
 
2012-01-06 04:35:59 PM  

bikerific: crotchgrabber: I love riding my bike. My commute is five miles on a coastal rec trail. I do not understand hipsters on fixies. If someone could explain why its better to have no brakes or gears I would buy that person a keg.

I don't do it myself, as I like gears, but:

-Lighter
-Fewer parts to maintain
-Good for all-season riding in snow/salt/rain with fewer parts to clog.
-No bits to steal off.
-Fixed gears provide good fitness benefits.
-relatively cheap.

/I am looking for a single-speed for winter commuting.


Most fixies I see around here are ancient steel frames, not light.
Maintenance on any bike is easy enough that a retarded monkey could do it.
Nothing to steal I'll give ya, I certainly wouldn't want any of that junk.
Weather isn't much of a factor around here.
Any bike has health benefits.
Cheap ... ok.

The hills in Monterey must suck on those things.

You should have caught me two weeks ago. Just sold my single speed Sakai.
 
2012-01-06 04:38:35 PM  
I should have said - I could have stopped BEFORE hitting him. I didn't. I slowed down though. (I didn't want to run him over. I'm an ass - not THAT much of an ass.)

I was in a Honda at the time. He probably would have lived. We were going MAYBE 10mph. Maybe... Maybe 15 but I doubt it.
 
2012-01-06 04:39:17 PM  

UnspokenVoice: I hit a guy in a very similar situation. It knocked him forward, bent his tire, and made his day all sorts of bad. I could have stopped. I slowed down. Hopefully they learned their lesson. I haven't seen 'em since. He didn't get a ticket, nor did I (I was in the right). He did try to sue my insurance company for quite a bit of money (How is a rear tire, an ER visit, and his pride worth like 12k anyhow?) but they never paid him anything nor have my rates gone up.


In a no fault accident state such as NY being able to stop and not stopping would put you at least partially to blame, allowing the cyclist to recover a percentage of his damages equal to your assigned blame. Also hitting someone with a car just because you can makes you a terrible person.
 
2012-01-06 04:41:44 PM  

bikerific: ubersexy: What irks me is one block either direction are perfectly good alternative, quiet neighborhood streets that you could take, which I often do. There are also sidewalks that are almost always empty. No reason to endanger yourself and 100s of others unless you are a complete jackwad.


First, how about not having clairvoyant encyclopedic knowledge of side streets? Cyclists also want to get from point A to point B. They have the same information somebody passing through in a car does. The don't know that there's some better street a couple of blocks away.

Second, secondary streets are just that- secondary. They often don't really go from point A to point B. They have frequent stop signs or stop lights. They are probably back for cycling for the same reasons they'd be bad for driving.

If I'm in a part of town I don't know terribly well, I'll probably be riding on same streets i would drive on- the main ones.

If you want bikes to have the same responsibilities as cars, then they get the same rights, right? Personally I think treating bikes like cars is dumb, but if that's what we're going to do, then take the bad with the good.


yes, please take the good with the bad: you are treated like a vehicle, so act like one. signal your turns, stop at lights & signs, yield to peds, wear lights in the dark etc.

& the real winner: don't impede traffic. this means that if you CHOOSE to ride on a road with no bike lane,(cause you aren't smart enough to find the side street 1 block over) you don't get to hold up traffic as you plod along. even the most fit riders don't hold 25mph for very long (& those are even few and far between). taking your sweet ass time meandering down a major street is not being a part of traffic. it's blocking it.
 
2012-01-06 04:42:02 PM  

inner ted: wow
the only thing 'very clear' here is that you are a biker with a huge sense of superiority & entitlement & a real knack for making a lot of assumptions.

& a bit of a prick to boot.

something tells me that you recently moved here, probably from back east.

i've probably ridden more miles commuting in this town than you, i'm just not an overblown a hole about it. i don't look at people in cars as "cagers" or that they are all fat. i also mind the laws of the road and have the brains to realize that this entire town can be navigated via bike lane with hardly ever a need to ride on 'non bike lane' streets.

but keep on assuming that portland ends at 39th & that everything after is just WalMarts & trailer parks. and that we all care about your singlespeed & nosering.

it doesn't & we don't


you sound butthurt.

/lives on mt. tabor
 
2012-01-06 04:42:56 PM  

UnspokenVoice: I should have said - I could have stopped BEFORE hitting him. I didn't. I slowed down though. (I didn't want to run him over. I'm an ass - not THAT much of an ass.)


Not trying to say the bike guy wasn't an ass, but admitting you hit a guy on purpose on a public forum probably isn't the best of ideas. Hitting a guy on purpose also makes you just as much of an ass as him, but you already admitted that.
 
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