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(Yahoo) Ironic MA Senator Scott Brown comes out in support of Obama's appointment of Cordray to run the CFPB. If he'd done that with Obama's first choice, he might not be about to get his ass kicked in the next election   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 46
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2012-01-06 10:20:40 AM
The violin she's buying:

www.theblaze.com
 
2012-01-06 10:28:47 AM
I have to tell you, this whole thing fills me with nothing but glee. Here's what happened:

Consumer Protection Agency is founded- over GOP obstruction- to protect the middle class.
Consumer Protection Agency's founder is not allowed to be the head, because the GOP is terrified of her.
Consumer Protection Agency's founder runs for Senate, and by all accounts, will crush her GOP opponent.
Consumer Protection Agency gets a leader who was handpicked by the founder, who is now a senator.


So now...the GOP needs to explain why it was OPPOSED to an agency designed to protect the middle class, and they need to do it with Elizabeth Warren sitting next to them.
 
2012-01-06 10:32:20 AM
She's a shoe-in- just like Martha Coakley.

/ I think Brown is independent enough to get reelected here.
 
2012-01-06 10:43:12 AM
notmtwain: She's a shoe-in- just like Martha Coakley.

And the MA Democratic party learned their lesson from that debacle. It's unlikely that Warren will go on vacation with a month left to campaign, spell Massachusetts wrong in an ad, or insult Fenway Park.

Also, Brown just BARELY beat her fail boat campaign, and that was a special election.

This election will have Obama as top billing, running against Mitt Romney. Most people in this state hate Mitt Romney.
 
2012-01-06 10:46:01 AM
Don't care...

This is the one issue that settles it for me:

Nov. 10, 2011 S Amdt 928 American Jobs and Economic Growth Amendment Rejected - Senate
(40 - 56) Nay
 
2012-01-06 11:30:50 AM
I think the Republicans were originally counting on the CFPB to turn out much like the TSA: bloated, stupid, ineffective and the prefect poster for why "big government" can't work. Imagine their horror when it turned out after the legislation was passed that it could actually be built up as an effective agency that just might do what it was created to do.

I might point out that if Obama had forced the appointment of Warren that also would have protected Brown's seat. Coincidence? I DON'T THINK SO.
 
2012-01-06 11:31:33 AM
Because People in power are Stupid: Don't care...

This is the one issue that settles it for me:

Nov. 10, 2011 S Amdt 928 American Jobs and Economic Growth Amendment Rejected - Senate
(40 - 56) Nay


So you're going to support Warren? Because she's more likely going to help you overturn Obamacare?
 
2012-01-06 11:34:52 AM
notmtwain: / I think Brown is independent enough to get reelected here.

Wrong.
 
2012-01-06 11:37:45 AM
notmtwain: She's a shoe-in- just like Martha Coakley.

/ I think Brown is independent enough to get reelected here.


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2012-01-06 11:39:14 AM
I'm from MA, and I simply can't emphasize how hard Warren is going to wipe the floor with Brown.

Aso, by Tea Party standards in other states, Brown has earned himself a primary challenger from the right, but I don't think that will happen in MA.
 
2012-01-06 11:40:58 AM
notmtwain: So you're going to support Warren? Because she's more likely going to help you overturn Obamacare?

.....what?

I mean, I would love her to overturn the Affordable Care Act, and institute single payer in this country, but she's not god.
 
2012-01-06 11:43:26 AM
Warren is going to give Brown a run for his money.
 
2012-01-06 11:44:13 AM
notmtwain: She's a shoe-in- just like Martha Coakley.

/ I think Brown is independent enough to get reelected here.


Thing is: She's NOT Martha Coakley. Warren's going to run a campaign and not sit on her hands confident that she'll win.
 
2012-01-06 11:45:10 AM
what_now: notmtwain: So you're going to support Warren? Because she's more likely going to help you overturn Obamacare?

.....what?

I mean, I would love her to overturn the Affordable Care Act, and institute single payer in this country, but she's not god.


We need more Elizabeth Warrens to do that.
 
2012-01-06 11:46:51 AM
Scott Brown is a smart GOP candidate. I know farkers love Warren, but it will better a much harder fight than you think. He has cross party appeal, and has shown willingness to work bipartisanly.

Warren will just be another corrupt politician who votes the party line. People want their elected to work with the other side, see the plummeting congressional approval as an example of their disdain for divisiveness. She has no proven record of reaching out to the GOP.
 
2012-01-06 11:58:52 AM
notmtwain: She's a shoe-in- just like Martha Coakley.

/ I think Brown is independent enough to get reelected here.


Want to put a wager on that one?
 
2012-01-06 11:58:55 AM
Le Grand Inquisitor: Warren will just be another corrupt politician who votes the party line. People want their elected to work with the other side, see the plummeting congressional approval as an example of their disdain for divisiveness. She has no proven record of reaching out to the GOP.

Of course! Brown can run on the sterling record of the GOP in working with Obama and the Democrats to get things done.
 
2012-01-06 11:59:46 AM
Le Grand Inquisitor: Scott Brown is a smart GOP candidate. I know farkers love Warren, but it will better a much harder fight than you think. He has cross party appeal, and has shown willingness to work bipartisanly.

Warren will just be another corrupt politician who votes the party line. People want their elected to work with the other side, see the plummeting congressional approval as an example of their disdain for divisiveness. She has no proven record of reaching out to the GOP.


how has Scott Brown reached across the isle?
 
2012-01-06 12:00:58 PM
what_now: I have to tell you, this whole thing fills me with nothing but glee. Here's what happened:

Consumer Protection Agency is founded- over GOP obstruction- to protect the middle class.
Consumer Protection Agency's founder is not allowed to be the head, because the GOP is terrified of her.
Consumer Protection Agency's founder runs for Senate, and by all accounts, will crush her GOP opponent.
Consumer Protection Agency gets a leader who was handpicked by the founder, who is now a senator.


So now...the GOP needs to explain why it was OPPOSED to an agency designed to protect the middle class, and they need to do it with Elizabeth Warren sitting next to them.


To call this situation lulzy places unrealistically high expectations on future lulziness.
 
2012-01-06 12:02:07 PM
Le Grand Inquisitor: She has no proven record of reaching out to the GOP.

She has no proven record because she's never been a politician. That's kind of the point. She was a state champion debater at age 16. She's going to wipe the floor with Brown.
 
2012-01-06 12:03:34 PM
Le Grand Inquisitor: He has cross party appeal

When Brown is the other choice? Unlikely.
 
2012-01-06 12:05:50 PM
Le Grand Inquisitor: She has no proven record of reaching out to the GOP.

Why pray tell should anybody expend an ounce of effort reaching out to the GOP at this point? We tried that, and they prove time and time again they are no better than a 2 year old throwing a feet kicking tantrum in a department store toy section.
 
2012-01-06 12:06:42 PM
Le Grand Inquisitor: Scott Brown is a smart GOP candidate. I know farkers love Warren, but it will better a much harder fight than you think. He has cross party appeal, and has shown willingness to work bipartisanly.

Warren will just be another corrupt politician who votes the party line. People want their elected to work with the other side, see the plummeting congressional approval as an example of their disdain for divisiveness. She has no proven record of reaching out to the GOP.


You say that like it's a bad thing.

How, exactly, has reaching out to the GOP produced anything worthwhile in the last 3 years? They are admitted hyper-partisan obstructionists. It's not hyperbole or hearsay to claim this when direct quotes from the leader of the Senate confirm this.

You don't seek to work with someone who has told you up front his only goal is to sabotage everything you do to make you look bad. The rational response to people like that is to marginalize them as much as possible and seek to supplant, overturn and circumvent their every effort.
 
2012-01-06 12:09:40 PM
Le Grand Inquisitor: Scott Brown is a smart GOP candidate. I know farkers love Warren, but it will better a much harder fight than you think. He has cross party appeal, and has shown willingness to work bipartisanly.

Warren will just be another corrupt politician who votes the party line. People want their elected to work with the other side, see the plummeting congressional approval as an example of their disdain for divisiveness. She has no proven record of reaching out to the GOP.


and your evidence for this is...?

I seem to recall that Warren was the unanimous consensus choice to head the BIPARTISAN Congressional Oversight Panel that was the watchdog for how TARP funds were spent and even the GOP panel memebers who fundamentally disagreed with her nonetheless were effusive in thier praise for her (new window)::

The two Republican appointees to the Congressional Oversight Panel, the group chaired by Warren that oversees the government's $700 billion bank bailout program, issued a statement saying that while they disagreed with many of Warren's views and opposed the creation of the consumer watchdog, they had found their dealings with her "to be collegial and professional."

The pair praised Warren for conducting exhaustive investigations into the federal government's rescue of firms such as American International Group and GMAC, even when those reviews produced results that didn't always shine a glowing light on the Treasury Department.

"It is important to note that the panel has been critical of policies and decisions implemented by Democrats and Republicans alike," wrote University of Kentucky economics Professor Kenneth Troske and J. Mark McWatters, a Dallas lawyer and certified public accountant, who serve on the five-member panel. "There is great virtue in that because, while it is easy to question the decisions made by members of the other political party, it takes courage to publicly question the decisions made by members of your own party."

They added, "We often debate a wide variety of issues with Professor Warren and have found her quite willing to modify her views if presented with well-reasoned, cogent arguments."



so clearly a partisan hack through and through eh?
 
2012-01-06 12:17:18 PM
Dusk-You-n-Me: Le Grand Inquisitor: She has no proven record of reaching out to the GOP.

She has no proven record because she's never been a politician. That's kind of the point. She was a state champion debater at age 16. She's going to wipe the floor with Brown.


Scott's only asset is his frat-boy humor. Which really isn't much of an asset.
 
2012-01-06 12:19:14 PM
Rwa2play: what_now: notmtwain: So you're going to support Warren? Because she's more likely going to help you overturn Obamacare?

.....what?

I mean, I would love her to overturn the Affordable Care Act, and institute single payer in this country, but she's not god.

We need more Elizabeth Warrens to do that.


We're doing our part. How about you (assuming you're not in MA)?
 
2012-01-06 12:21:28 PM
Scott Brown has time and time again voted with the conservatives on filibustering ever issue they have wanted blocked. Often he votes with conservatives with the filibuster votes but then when that is defeated he then votes for the bill he helped filibuster. He only vote on the "left" side when he knows his vote doesn't matter. When it's 1 vote needed he always has sided with the conservatives. I am amazed that people in Mass. still are fooled into thinking this guy is a moderate. He is not. He just pretends to be when it doesn't make a difference.
 
2012-01-06 12:24:24 PM
Corvus: I am amazed that people in Mass. still are fooled into thinking this guy is a moderate.

We aren't.
 
2012-01-06 12:25:57 PM
Le Grand Inquisitor: Scott Brown is a smart GOP candidate. I know farkers love Warren, but it will better a much harder fight than you think. He has cross party appeal, and has shown willingness to work bipartisanly.

No he hasn't he has given lip service to that everytime his one vote counted he sided with the Republicans. Not once has he stood against them when he was the deciding vote.

Brown even voted against DADT repeal when his vote counted. He has ALWAYS voted on the conservative side and block bills enforcing the GOP filibuster when his vote counted. He has only switched when some other Republicans have also.
 
2012-01-06 12:26:45 PM
DeltaPunch
lso, by Tea Party standards in other states, Brown has earned himself a primary challenger from the right, but I don't think that will happen in MA.

I was about to say that. And, if Brown gets teabagged, it will be epic win for Warren, instead of say 54-46 (which is what I suspect will happen, as Brown does appeal to some of the remaining old skewl Republicans.

Oh, and did we just notice the unemployment rate go down again?

Thank You Black Jesus!
To call this situation lulzy places unrealistically high expectations on future lulziness.

Past lulz are no indication of future lulz.
 
2012-01-06 12:27:34 PM
what_now: Corvus: I am amazed that people in Mass. still are fooled into thinking this guy is a moderate.

We aren't.


Good because look at his actual record like with DADT repeal. When his vote counted he sided with the conservatives when it didn't he went "OMG I LOVE DADT REPEAL (even though I did everything in my power to block it)".
 
2012-01-06 12:28:43 PM
what_now: Corvus: I am amazed that people in Mass. still are fooled into thinking this guy is a moderate.

We aren't.


I don't think a majority ever were. As much as the national media tried to play that special election like some triumph for Scotty2Hotty or Teabaggers or as a failure by Obama it was all Coakley. She was a terrible candidate and she lost the election, Scott Brown just happened to be the one to cash in on her failures.
 
2012-01-06 12:29:36 PM
I love how the guy that rode Tea Party support into the Senate is now viewed as "the most liberal Republican".

It brings me joy.
 
2012-01-06 12:49:25 PM
stpickrell: Oh, and did we just notice the unemployment rate go down again?

The goddamn audacity of our President, trying to improve our economy, employment, and standard of living JUST so he'll get reelected. Thank god Republicans are around to stop all that nonsense!
 
2012-01-06 12:55:28 PM
Mighty Taternuts: Le Grand Inquisitor: Scott Brown is a smart GOP candidate. I know farkers love Warren, but it will better a much harder fight than you think. He has cross party appeal, and has shown willingness to work bipartisanly.

Warren will just be another corrupt politician who votes the party line. People want their elected to work with the other side, see the plummeting congressional approval as an example of their disdain for divisiveness. She has no proven record of reaching out to the GOP.

how has Scott Brown reached across the isle?


Well, he has a truck.
 
2012-01-06 01:12:26 PM
notmtwain: Because People in power are Stupid: Don't care...

This is the one issue that settles it for me:

Nov. 10, 2011 S Amdt 928 American Jobs and Economic Growth Amendment Rejected - Senate
(40 - 56) Nay

So you're going to support Warren? Because she's more likely going to help you overturn Obamacare?


Sorry my Derp.

Those names -they are all so similar.

Oct. 11, 2011 S 1660 American Jobs Act of 2011 Cloture Not Invoked - Senate
(50 - 49) Nay
 
2012-01-06 01:44:26 PM
Joe Kennedy III is going to run for congress. That means no Kennedy money will go to Coakley 2.0. They're hoping Brown wins so that Joe III can run against him later.
 
2012-01-06 01:53:16 PM
Le Grand Inquisitor: Scott Brown is a smart GOP candidate. I know farkers love Warren, but it will better a much harder fight than you think. He has cross party appeal, and has shown willingness to work bipartisanly.

Warren will just be another corrupt politician who votes the party line. People want their elected to work with the other side, see the plummeting congressional approval as an example of their disdain for divisiveness. She has no proven record of reaching out to the GOP.


I'll admit to voting for Brown because Coakley acted like it was going to be handed to her and totally flubbed it, Brown wanted it. And though I don't agree with much of Brown's views, he's pretty much kept to his word that he won't be a "rubber stamp".

But anyone who suggests "reaching out to the GOP" must have been asleep these past 3 years. Or at the very least not heard a thing Mitch McConnell has said.
 
2012-01-06 01:57:38 PM
First Kal Penn, now this?

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taking bets on how long until John Cho gets called up by Obama.
 
2012-01-06 02:35:51 PM
what_now: the GOP needs to explain why it was OPPOSED to an agency designed to protect the middle class

The funding for the CFPB is derived from the federal reserve and not the congress. It is illegal and unconstitutional at best.

You as a citizen have absolutely no voice as to how it is run and can hold nobody accountable for its actions. It is even debatable as to whether or not the congress will have subpoena power over its decisions.
 
2012-01-06 02:46:27 PM
Go Liz. Give em hell!
 
2012-01-06 03:05:01 PM
AntiNerd: Imagine their horror when it turned out after the legislation was passed that it could actually be built up as an effective agency that just might do what it was created to do.

Its amazing how effective an agency can be when you remove it from congressional authority!
 
2012-01-06 03:25:48 PM
Hows this sound?
Warren wins the seat in a landslide. Then in 2016, runs for and wins the presidency?

I kinda like the sound of that.
 
2012-01-06 03:40:42 PM
o5iiawah: what_now: the GOP needs to explain why it was OPPOSED to an agency designed to protect the middle class

The funding for the CFPB is derived from the federal reserve and not the congress. It is illegal and unconstitutional at best.

You as a citizen have absolutely no voice as to how it is run and can hold nobody accountable for its actions. It is even debatable as to whether or not the congress will have subpoena power over its decisions.


1) How can something that was written into law be illegal ? Unconstitutional perhaps (this isn't BTW its a funding mechanism that's been used before) But per se it cannot be "illegal"

2) If you READ the CFPB enabling legislation they have strict reporting requirements where they, unlike any other agency have to regularly report to Congress

3) unlike any other federal agency, several financial regulatory agencies such as the FDIC, and the SEC can veto new CFPB regulations if they make a finding that the proposed action would be to burdensome to banks or somehow destabilize the finacial system

4) and as a citizen your representatives in Congress have plenty of say over this agency A) because when they play nice they get imput on who runs it and B) if they feel it has gone too far off the reservation they can simply pass a law aolishing the agency

/Red herrings are Red
 
2012-01-06 04:08:03 PM
Elizabeth Warren is going to wipe the floor with Brown. I sure hope he gassed up his pickup because his ass is gone.

/Born and raised Bostonian
 
2012-01-06 04:10:03 PM
Iceberg659: Elizabeth Warren is going to wipe the floor with Brown. I sure hope he gassed up his pickup because his ass is gone.

/Born and raised Bostonian



Its so funny how the GOP shot themselves in the foot here. They probably would have been better off just confirming her to Obama's cabinet position. Instead, she (hopefully) will be in the Senate doing way more good (and making the GOP way more mad) than she ever could have in the cabinet.
 
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