This is why wedge issues are so critical to the GOP. They may be racist, sexist, douchebags waging war on the poor and middle class but who cares about that, abortion is still legal!

i am surprised that "americans against hate" actually agreed to be interviewed!

SilentStrider: Huh?

Based on the interview, I believe the group in question uses "hate" as a synonym for "Muslim".

Can't watch video at work can someone throw out a better summary than the headline?

Not racist, but #1 with racists.

lennavan: This is why wedge issues are so critical to the GOP. They may be racist, sexist, douchebags waging war on the poor and middle class but who cares about that, this abortion of a headline is still legal!

monoski: Can't watch video at work can someone throw out a better summary than the headline?

That's actually pretty accurate. Muslim wants to join the Florida republican party, and this Americans Against hate group campaigns against his joining on the grounds that, as a Muslim, he's a terrorist. The evidence presented for this assertion is his association with a group founded by a man who has been associated with the 2nd Bush administration.

For some reason, this idiot still wants to join the Republican Party, I assume to hate on the gays.

Jason always nails it. I didn't realize the Modern Whig party even existed till I saw that episode... what do they even stand for? I'm not going to google it, and I don't expect an answer.

monoski: Can't watch video at work can someone throw out a better summary than the headline?

here is the problem, that headline was actually a fairly concise and accurate summary of what occurred.

Metraxis: monoski: Can't watch video at work can someone throw out a better summary than the headline?

That's actually pretty accurate. Muslim wants to join the Florida republican party, and this Americans Against hate group campaigns against his joining on the grounds that, as a Muslim, he's a terrorist. The evidence presented for this assertion is his association with a group founded by a man who has been associated with the 2nd Bush administration.

For some reason, this idiot still wants to join the Republican Party, I assume to hate on the gays.

Thanks!

//I often suspect it could be a setup when I see things like this that just don't fit so well

monoski: Can't watch video at work can someone throw out a better summary than the headline?

1> White American Muslim applies to Republican party executive committee
2> Sees there is a campaign, complete with flyers, warning about allowing "terrorists" into party governance.
3> Daily Show runs with it, interviews the founder of the group Americans Against Hate, who's also a member of that executive committee.
4> And, as it turns out, the actual guy who printed up those racist "Muslim = terrorist" flyers.

And Bonus 5> guy says, in complete honesty, that he "does not discriminate based on personal characteristics", but absolutely doubles down that he "judges him based on assumed associations".

AmorousRedDragon: Jason always nails it. I didn't realize the Modern Whig party even existed till I saw that episode... what do they even stand for? I'm not going to google it, and I don't expect an answer.

Link (new window)

1.Fiscal Responsibility -Any action of the government must respect principles of fiscal responsibility and public accountability.

2.Energy Independence- Develop practical domestic energy sources and economically viable alternative energy to reduce dependence on foreign energy sources and strive towards energy independence. This is also a component of our inward looking economic focus.

3.Inward looking economic focus - It's about time we refocus on ourselves and discover and implement policies to grow domestic demand and our manufacturing base to provide an environment that can create the kinds of jobs that will support American families within the context of a globally interdependent world.

4.State's Responsibility- Each state can generally determine its course of action based on local values and unique needs. Whigs believe in a strong government at every level and separation of powers. Yet, strong and competent local and state governments are important, as they are the level of government where the people can get most involved. All citizens need to ensure the Federal government doesnt usurp its Constitutional authority.

5.Social Acceptance -When the government is compelled to legislate morality (laws), every citizen should be considered as equal.

6.Education and Scientific Advancement- Increase public and private emphasis on math and science to promote American innovation to compete in the global economy.

7.Veterans Affairs -Vigilant advocacy relating to the medical, financial, and overall well-being of our military families and veterans.

8.Electoral & Government Reform- Support efforts and work for governmental reform that makes the American government efficient, fair, and responsive at all levels. Support efforts and work for electoral reform to allow all Americans to have their voices heard and make it rational for citizens to participate in the government and electoral processes.

That's just from their suites catalog.

"Big business, small minded...you guys are a lot alike".

Like a Jewish Nazi or something.

SilentStrider: Huh?

Seconded. Had to read the headline three times before the idea took shape.

/Coffee time. Yes.

Crunch61: Like a Jewish Nazi or something.

or Gay Catholic

Crunch61: Like a Jewish Nazi or something.

I believe that existed.

Very, very few, but existent nevertheless.

Maurooned: That's just from their suites catalog.

My lord, it's like some god-awful chimaera.. half elephant, half donkey, masquerading as an owl! Based on their platform, I could see them as being a strong party given the right introduction and widespread exposure, but I'll also say with a straight face that they have a snowball's chance in this kind of political landscape.

AmorousRedDragon: Jason always nails it. I didn't realize the Modern Whig party even existed till I saw that episode... what do they even stand for? I'm not going to google it, and I don't expect an answer.



Against affirmative action in every case but income disparity, for the separation of church and state (with allowances for generic displays to be used for any religion), for charter schools/merit based teacher pay/focus on science and math/a disconnect between property taxes and school funding (since the poorest areas get the worst schools this way), instant runoff voting, forced and exclusive public financing for political campaigns, stricter lobbyist controls, forcing the electoral college to be proportional to the popular vote, eliminate gerrymandering, term limits (2 terms for senate, 5 for house), hold elections either on the weekend or all week, energy independence via alternative sources of energy, no deficit spending outside of war or economic emergency, recognizing the role of both improper regulation and improper deregulation for the recession, the breakup of 'too big to fail' institutions, de-linking health insurance from employment and providing a method for all citizens to easily obtain it, disagree with PPACA on the basis that it doesn't do enough to address health care costs but agree that expanding coverage to all citizens is a worthy goal, offer fast tracked citizenship to immigrants who join the military (that's really all I can find on their immigration ideas), significant reinvestment in infrastructure, job creation (via infrastructure reinvestment, renegotiating free trade agreements that result in a net export of jobs, closing tax loopholes that allow offshoring while lowering taxes on corporations, and alternative energy investment), reject isolationism while favoring diplomacy over violence, punt the abortion question back to the states while emphasizing that rejecting abortion should be paired with increased adoption and safe-haven laws, punt the gay marriage question back to the states while wanting to include it as a federally protected class for hate crimes/discrimination, relatively loose gun laws, maintaining our current code while drastically revising and simplifying it such that effective tax rates are closer to theoretical tax rates (compared to huge changes like the fair tax or a flat tax), and elimination of earmarks on the national level by providing funding to states in a lump sum and having determination of spending done at the state level.

/not responsible for headaches caused by wall of text or random tense changes.

It's funny liberals are always out to defend Muslims, even though Muslims are against everything they're for. But if it pisses off logical people it must be okay.

Oakenhelm: It's funny liberals are always out to defend Muslims, even though Muslims are against everything they're for. But if it pisses off logical people it must be okay.

Are we talking about the Jihadist, cave-dwelling Muslims or normal, American Muslims? Did you know that there is a distinction?

You may be Conservative, but unless you're White, Straight, Old and Rich, you have no purpose being in the GOP and the GOP does not want you (but they want your vote/money).

White, Old Rich men are the wife the GOP loves. Minority conservatives are the gay hooker that they screw in a back alley and then slap around when it's time to pay the whore.

Hell, even traditional conservatives have no place in the GOP.

So, the libertarian party actually wants all the states to use their own currency? Does RON PAUL believe in this as well, or is this just a FL libertarian party thing? RON PAUL

MadMonk: So, the libertarian party actually wants all the states to use their own currency? Does RON PAUL believe in this as well, or is this just a FL libertarian party thing? RON PAUL

RON PAUL wants competeing private currencies.

He may not be in a hate group now, but he's trying to join one.

Trying to translate the headline, I came up with "Republican Party denies membership to man because an anti-hate group told them the man thinks all Muslims are terrorists". That can't be right,

dumbobruni: i am surprised that "americans against hate" actually agreed to be interviewed!

He's pretty clearly a moron.

Metraxis: Based on the interview, I believe the group in question uses "hate" as a synonym for "Muslim".

I'm thinking more that "Americans Against Hate" is more a euphemism for "Americans for Israel at all costs" but I may be reading the situation wrong.

oryx: Trying to translate the headline, I came up with "Republican Party denies membership to man because an anti-hate group told them the man thinks all Muslims are terrorists". That can't be right,

Accurately reflects the story now.

Rincewind53: Unlike you conservatives

Read his profile. He's apparently trolling while bored.

We did this already: Link (new window)

Mooooooooooooooslims: Because the "coming sharia law smackdown" is so much worse than throwing people in jail for using birth control or aborting unborn children to save a woman's life (a judeo-christian sharia smackdown also coming soon).

Can't say I blame them. I wouldn't want some inconsiderate religious freak leaving his explosives everywhere either.

sprawl15: Wall of text

Wow...that's actually a fairly good platform. I'm intrigued.

Also, the owl is awesome.

If all Muslims hate America, the Republican party is actually quite perfect for them.

Maurooned: That's just from their suites catalog.

Oh no, it looks like I may be a Whigger!!!

I agree with all of that... where is the catch?

AmorousRedDragon: Jason always nails it. I didn't realize the Modern Whig party even existed till I saw that episode... what do they even stand for? I'm not going to google it, and I don't expect an answer.

A couple of people have already responded, so I won't bother to go into details. If you're a displaced Republican, however, it's a pretty good alternative. They certainly aren't anywhere near large enough yet to compete with the big boys on any meaningful level, but they have gained traction over the last few years. Definitely a group to keep an eye on. If the GOP ever does truly fracture, I can see them picking up a lot of the moderates.

If they were truly an anti-hate group they would be opposing every theist.

/my sky wizard is better than your sky wizard
//grow the fark up

Emposter: sprawl15: Wall of text

Wow...that's actually a fairly good platform. I'm intrigued.

Also, the owl is awesome.

'I am the Owl' (new window)

AmorousRedDragon: Jason always nails it. I didn't realize the Modern Whig party even existed till I saw that episode... what do they even stand for? I'm not going to google it, and I don't expect an answer.

Women in the kitchen. Blacks doing the bidding of whites in exhange for room and board only. Government payment for scalps of Mexicans and or Native Americans.

Emposter: sprawl15: Wall of text

Wow...that's actually a fairly good platform. I'm intrigued.

Also, the owl is awesome.

My impression has been that they're basically a centrist/center-right kind of organization, people who wouldn't have been ashamed to call themselves Republicans 10-15 years ago, generally fiscally conservative but pragmatic about it in cases of market failure. There's much to like, but unfortunately they lose me completely with the bit about no deficit spending except in war or other emergency. That's just dumb and unnecessarily inflexible, and it's a an absolute deal-breaker to me.

Oakenhelm: It's funny liberals are always out to defend Muslims, even though Muslims are against everything they're for. But if it pisses off logical people it must be okay.

Not sure if trolling but:

"Liberals are always out to defend Muslims" -- no, we're defending their right to have a different religion and not to be discriminated against. Also pointing out the irony that this particular gentleman is socially and fiscally conservative, and yet a slander campaign by an "Against Hate" guy gets him denied membership to the GOP.

Muslims are not 100% the same. Have you ever been to a big American city? Many of the taxi cab drivers are Middle Eastern and/or Muslim. And yet they dutifully pick up infidels and take their money without proselytizing or blowing up their passengers. You can go to a gay neighborhood on a Friday or Saturday night and see the cabs lined up, ready to drive gay drunk people around. Wow real Sharia theocracy proponents there.

Super Chronic: There's much to like, but unfortunately they lose me completely with the bit about no deficit spending except in war or other emergency. That's just dumb and unnecessarily inflexible, and it's a an absolute deal-breaker to me.

It sounded more like they're idealistically opposed to it (it shouldn't happen because we should spend responsibly) rather than seeking a law against it.

Then again, all I did was browse their website for like 10 minutes, so what the fark do I know.