vpb: Ted tried to work off his guilt for decades after Chappaquiddick. I wonder what the world would be like if every politician could feel guilt?

He should have tried to "work off" his fat ass while he was at it

Vote Quimby.

20 years? Would have hanging around somehow have saved their lives? The guy is a douche but I don't see why he should get 20 years for leaving the scene of an accident.

vpb: Ted tried to work off his guilt for decades after Chappaquiddick. I wonder what the world would be like if every politician could feel guilt?

You know how I wash away the guilt? By never holding a real job and spending other people's money for 50 years...


/that's true compassion....

vpb: Ted tried to work off his guilt for decades after Chappaquiddick. I wonder what the world would be like if every politician could feel guilt?

If the Kopechne family had put half as much time into working off their sorrow we would have moved on from this a long time ago.

BiffDangler: 20 years? Would have hanging around somehow have saved their lives? The guy is a douche but I don't see why he should get 20 years for leaving the scene of an accident.

He was a teen driving friends under the influence. After crashing, he then walked home and told nobody about the crash.
How would you like to die? Being abandoned by a friend to bleed out?

vpb: Ted tried to work off his guilt for decades after Chappaquiddick. I wonder what the world would be like if every politician could feel guilt?

He could have, you know, served jail time like anyone else would've had to do? Oh right, he got a "suspended sentence".

BiffDangler: 20 years? Would have hanging around somehow have saved their lives? The guy is a douche but I don't see why he should get 20 years for leaving the scene of an accident.

I agree. I think a two month suspended sentence would have been more than enough.

Coffay, speaking in a packed Montgomery County courtroom, said that he did not know there were people in the car when he ran off. If he had, he said, he would have stayed.

"I never intended to leave my friends," Coffay said. He said on the night of the crash he felt "overwhelming fear and terror."

Wait what? He forgot that he had 3 passengers? In his mind, he was abandoning an empty car?

Maybe he could have called 911? Certainly between the 4 of them, one of them had a cell phone.

Errrraaaah, Errrraaaaah.........

machoprogrammer: vpb: Ted tried to work off his guilt for decades after Chappaquiddick. I wonder what the world would be like if every politician could feel guilt?

He could have, you know, served jail time like anyone else would've had to do? Oh right, he got a "suspended sentence".

Because he's one of the quality people, DUH! They are better than us, and you should be ashamed to question them.


I nearly vomited typing that. Drowning terrifies me. Not to mention what her family went through. Losing her and then not seeing any justice.

\Where's Anders when you need him?

spentmiles: BiffDangler: 20 years? Would have hanging around somehow have saved their lives? The guy is a douche but I don't see why he should get 20 years for leaving the scene of an accident.

I agree. I think a two month suspended sentence would have been more than enough.

FTFA: When police found Coffay at about 6 a.m.and took him to a hospital - three hours after the crash - his blood -alcohol level was 0.16, twice the legal limit in Maryland, according to court records


Also FTFA: Coffay, speaking in a packed Montgomery County courtroom, said that he did not know there were people in the car when he ran off. If he had, he said, he would have stayed.
Followed by this: Told that his friends had died, according to court files, Coffay said, "What? They were fine when I left."
Idiot.

It's not a case of leaving the scene, it's three counts of manslaughter.
Coffay, a James Madison University student, has been out on bond since pleading guilty in November to three counts of vehicular manslaughter and one count of failing to remain at the scene of the crash on Olney-Laytonsville Road.

BiffDangler: 20 years? Would have hanging around somehow have saved their lives? The guy is a douche but I don't see why he should get 20 years for leaving the scene of an accident.

I agree. However I am OK with getting 20 years for driving drunk and killing three people.

Methinks subby has a bad case of Kennedy Derangement Syndrome - but has no problem with Laura Bush running down her first boyfriend with her car, or Rick Santorum bringing his wife's aborted fetus home for his kids to play with.

vpb: Ted tried to work off his guilt for decades after Chappaquiddick. I wonder what the world would be like if every politician could feel guilt?

Ted worked his guilt off about as hard as OJ looked for the real killer.

festoon: Methinks subby has a bad case of Kennedy Derangement Syndrome - but has no problem with Laura Bush running down her first boyfriend with her car, or Rick Santorum bringing his wife's aborted fetus home for his kids to play with.

Because in your world everyone is a partisan hack?

jst3p: festoon: Methinks subby has a bad case of Kennedy Derangement Syndrome - but has no problem with Laura Bush running down her first boyfriend with her car, or Rick Santorum bringing his wife's aborted fetus home for his kids to play with.

Because in your world everyone is a partisan hack?

festoon: Methinks subby has a bad case of Kennedy Derangement Syndrome - but has no problem with Laura Bush running down her first boyfriend with her car, or Rick Santorum bringing his wife's aborted fetus home for his kids to play with.

You know, as creepy as bringing a fetus home is... who cares? It's not alive. It hurts no one. It's no more weird than an in-home wake.

\spent 3 years in grad school with 6 cadavers in the freezers 10ft from my desk, so I might be jaded.

Oak tree you're in my waaaay

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\spent 3 years in grad school with 6 cadavers in the freezers 10ft from my desk, so I might be jaded.

That was your desk at home, right?

Adolf Oliver Nipples: vpb: Ted tried to work off his guilt for decades after Chappaquiddick. I wonder what the world would be like if every politician could feel guilt?

He never owned it, he never suffered any notable consequences for it, and he kept riding the gravy train for the rest of his life. That's not "working off his guilt".

This headline is dead on.

Except for the two situations being not remotely the same, and the guy getting 20 years is getting it for three counts of manslaughter, not just leaving the scene of an accident.

Keep up the Chappaquiddick jokes subby, they're really timely.

/wonder if Teapot Dome references are still relevant
//2000-2008 was the same thing
///not really funny though

MoronLessOff: jst3p: Because in your world everyone is a partisan hack?

When they go out of their way to present themselves as one? Yes. What does the link in the OP have to do with the Kennedys? Nothing. So why include the reference to an accident that happened more than half a century ago?

If you're worried about partisan hacks, talk to the subby.

rmoody: Except for the two situations being not remotely the same, and the guy getting 20 years is getting it for three counts of manslaughter, not just leaving the scene of an accident.

Cognitive dissonance, it's not just for breakfast anymore.

Tough case for me to decide.

Article mentions that he'll likely get paroled in 5 years, as it was a nonviolent crime. I guess that sounds about right. 5 years is pretty serious, but still gives him a chance to turn his life around. 20 years would pretty much erase any chance at a future he might've had (but some of you are ok with that, too).

Or a Bush

festoon: Methinks subby has a bad case of Kennedy Derangement Syndrome - but has no problem with Laura Bush running down her first boyfriend with her car, or Rick Santorum bringing his wife's aborted fetus home for his kids to play with.

The sick part is, he married it.

festoon: Methinks subby has a bad case of Kennedy Derangement Syndrome - but has no problem with Laura Bush running down her first boyfriend with her car

Really? She ran a stop sign (sober, by the way) got into an accident and killed her boyfriend. He was hammered, swam away from the car (which was filling with water and a still alive girl who was not his wife) and left the scene of the accident and went home. Those are equivalent how? Did her last name prevent her from seeing consequences? Any other person does what Teddy did and they are in jail, period.

You get all the justice you can afford.

That guy must have had a terrible lawyer. He was still drunk when the police found him. All he had to say was, "I didn't remember anything. There was a car crash?"

If he wasn't the one behind the wheel, this defense should have sufficed.

mjbok: festoon: Methinks subby has a bad case of Kennedy Derangement Syndrome - but has no problem with Laura Bush running down her first boyfriend with her car

Really? She ran a stop sign (sober, by the way) got into an accident and killed her boyfriend. He was hammered, swam away from the car (which was filling with water and a still alive girl who was not his wife) and left the scene of the accident and went home. Those are equivalent how? Did her last name prevent her from seeing consequences? Any other person does what Teddy did and they are in jail, period.

Exactly, it's just like comparing Kennedy's leaving the scene of an accident to someone getting tried for three counts of manslaughter.

That was the point you making, right?

stewbert: some of you are ok with that, too

Well, you know if a criminal hasn't been beaten down to the point where he can no longer function in society, it wasn't really a punishment.

This happened in the town where I grew up. People were enraged that he left his friends to die and I don't blame them one bit.

mjbok: festoon: Methinks subby has a bad case of Kennedy Derangement Syndrome - but has no problem with Laura Bush running down her first boyfriend with her car

Really? She ran a stop sign (sober, by the way) got into an accident and killed her boyfriend. He was hammered, swam away from the car (which was filling with water and a still alive girl who was not his wife) and left the scene of the accident and went home. Those are equivalent how? Did her last name prevent her from seeing consequences? Any other person does what Teddy did and they are in jail, period.

Considering it happened about 15 years before she even met Dubya, I think not.

I think the sentence is too light and he should serve it in full.

However, at .16 I think you know your friend is too drunk to drive unless he has been hitting the sauce since he was four and knows how to handle his bug juice.

I say his friends also abandoned him on that particular day.

Dr J Zoidberg: Yeah, I mean all they have in common is that they both left people dying in a car to save their own ass. How is that similar?

Thank-you. Leaving the scene of an accident where people were dying. Common thread.

SonOfSpam: This text is now purple: festoon:
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\spent 3 years in grad school with 6 cadavers in the freezers 10ft from my desk, so I might be jaded.

That was your desk at home, right?

I had squatters' rights.

mjbok: Dr J Zoidberg: Yeah, I mean all they have in common is that they both left people dying in a car to save their own ass. How is that similar?

Thank-you. Leaving the scene of an accident where people were dying. Common thread.

You're forgetting one thing....

Bush.

Ah Fark, where everything comes down to who's republican or Democrat.