Do we *really* need to see a remastered version of that POS episode "Code of Honor"?

Really?

+1 Subby.

All new hi def camel-toes during the space workout!

Can they remaster the scripts for the first two seasons?

Minus 1 Charisma: [t1.gstatic.com image 267x189]

All new hi def camel-toes during the space workout!

Anything with Troi in HD is a good thing.

/second only to Dax
//mmmm...Jadzia

Wellon Dowd: Can they remaster the scripts for the first two seasons?

I think we just found Lucas' Fark handle...

Will they edit out the phasers and CGI in walkie talkies?

GAT_00: DamnYankees: FirstNationalBastard: So, did the remastering job clean up effects like the Farpoint alien that much, or is that new CGI?

From what I understand, new CGI.

I figured they'd do the same thing to TNG that they did for the TOS upgrade, and redo a lot of the CGI.

Except it's not correct.

They saved pretty much all the FX elements from the show, which was shot on film using models. In Encounter At Farpoint's case, the elements were shot at Industrial Light & Magic in VistaVision. All they are doing is scanning those elements in HD and recompositing them digitally. Certain elements, like phasers & photon torpedoes and other animation was done on the primitive computers of the time. That CG will be redone at HD resolution.

For TOS, the FX had to be redone in CG because the original elements weren't kept. Plus due to the primitive compositing at the time, huge amounts of grain and dirt had built up on the FX shots, making them look fairly noisy. You can see them with the "angle" feature on the Blu-ray.

The Farpoint alien was a puppet, which now in HD you can see was translucent.

GAT_00: DamnYankees: FirstNationalBastard: So, did the remastering job clean up effects like the Farpoint alien that much, or is that new CGI?

From what I understand, new CGI.

I figured they'd do the same thing to TNG that they did for the TOS upgrade, and redo a lot of the CGI.

that would be nice, I love watching the upgraded TOS every week, TNG would be that much better but they probably wouldn't show it on broadcast tv like TOS so I'd be out of luck cuz I ain't paying for it.

The HD treatment must still be light years better than the Lucas treatment. Hopefully just cleanups and a slight enhancement here or there.

No stupid additional unnecessary scenes and changing plot lines (Han shot first).

No Jar Jar.

Probably a win just for that already!

Bye.

That's going to look great streaming on Netflix.

I hated the TOS CGI, and hope they don't do the same with TNG.

And it's still in 4:3. What the crap?

Babylon 5 needs this much, much, much, much more.

Wellon Dowd: Can they remaster the scripts for the first two seasons?

No, but they are going to CGI a beard onto Riker for the first season so that people will think the writing's better. Link (new window)

Fix old, no new?

That said, I'd sacrifice my left nut to see a remastered HD version of Bablyon 5 with updated CGI.

Wellon Dowd: Can they remaster the scripts for the first two seasons?

We'd be better off just dropping those seasons entirely and starting at 3.

I can't wait for them to finally remaster some of the other classics:

A Fistful of Explosions (new window)

and

The NaQed Now (new window)

peterthx: GAT_00: DamnYankees: FirstNationalBastard: So, did the remastering job clean up effects like the Farpoint alien that much, or is that new CGI?

From what I understand, new CGI.

I figured they'd do the same thing to TNG that they did for the TOS upgrade, and redo a lot of the CGI.

Except it's not correct.

They saved pretty much all the FX elements from the show, which was shot on film using models. In Encounter At Farpoint's case, the elements were shot at Industrial Light & Magic in VistaVision. All they are doing is scanning those elements in HD and recompositing them digitally. Certain elements, like phasers & photon torpedoes and other animation was done on the primitive computers of the time. That CG will be redone at HD resolution.

For TOS, the FX had to be redone in CG because the original elements weren't kept. Plus due to the primitive compositing at the time, huge amounts of grain and dirt had built up on the FX shots, making them look fairly noisy. You can see them with the "angle" feature on the Blu-ray.

The Farpoint alien was a puppet, which now in HD you can see was translucent.

And also, the main reason for the re-compositing is that the original filmed elements were composited on video, not film.

GAT_00: DamnYankees: FirstNationalBastard: So, did the remastering job clean up effects like the Farpoint alien that much, or is that new CGI?

From what I understand, new CGI.

I figured they'd do the same thing to TNG that they did for the TOS upgrade, and redo a lot of the CGI.

As I understand it, they have no choice but to remaster the effects, but they don't plan on replacing the effects - just making them look better. The show was shot on film stock, but all of the original effects were done after the footage was transferred to standard def video tape for editing, so in order to make the show high-def they have to go back to the original film stock, re-edit the footage to recreate the original episode and put the new remastered effects back in.

This article from September already discussed it. According to that article they plan on simply remastering the previous effects, and only replacing a few pieces of effects footage that have apparently gone missing.

I'm most curious to see how they handle things like the neural parasites from the season 1 episode Conspiracy, which were originally choppy animation

Mad_Radhu: That said, I'd sacrifice my left nut to see a remastered HD version of Bablyon 5 with updated CGI.

oooo that would be nice ...I love that show

but the acting is so soooooooo bad. Even a hardcore fan like me has to cringe sometimes.

Did they remove the suck from the first two seasons?

I Like Bread: And it's still in 4:3. What the crap?

The original series was obviously edited to 4:3 for TV, since almost no one was doing 16:9 for TV at the time.

The series was, however, shot on film stock (though, strangely, edited on video for the first season or so), so it should end up looking pretty keen.

Mode101: The HD treatment must still be light years better than the Lucas treatment. Hopefully just cleanups and a slight enhancement here or there.

No stupid additional unnecessary scenes and changing plot lines (Han shot first).

No Jar Jar.

Probably a win just for that already!

Bye.

tdpatriots12: Babylon 5 needs this much, much, much, much more.

Gah. I hate being a nerd sometimes. One of us always has to pollute a thread with Lucas-bashing and Babylon 5 gushing.

Minus 1 Charisma: All new hi def camel-toes during the space workout!

Im-Ok-With-This.JPG

//loved me some Gates and Marina

Perlin Noise: Mad_Radhu: That said, I'd sacrifice my left nut to see a remastered HD version of Bablyon 5 with updated CGI.

oooo that would be nice ...I love that show

but the acting is so soooooooo bad. Even a hardcore fan like me has to cringe sometimes.

Nah, the acting isn't bad, it's just overly dramatic at times. It's part of the charm of Babble-On 5.

Sadly, it will probably be 12 days after never for that show to get remastered. While that show was also done on film stock, the digital effect master files are totally missing (the ones from Foundation moved to Netter Digital which apparently promptly lost them), so it'd be a significant investment (the digital effects were also rendered in 4:3 so they'd need to be completely redone).

Some new CGI models and sequences have already been done that reconstruct shots from the original series, however. The credit sequence for the "Lost Tales" DVD (new window) is *not* the same model and scripting as was used in "Sleeping in Light". The station model is *much* more detailed, as are the explosion renderings and the Non-Aligned World ships. So it's *possible*, but since Babylon 5 was very influential for sci-fi writers, but not very influential amongst sci-fi *fans* (outside of Britain, where it was very popular), my hope for a remastering is very small indeed.

/plus, principle actors keep dying from that damn show, what the hell, man

Rising_Zan_Samurai_Gunman: I'm most curious to see how they handle things like the neural parasites from the season 1 episode Conspiracy, which were originally choppy animation

I wonder if they'll redo the Crystaline Entity, because it looks really, really bad.

Ennuipoet: [freeversephotography.com image 636x480]

Is JJ Abrahms overseeing the remastering?

So TNG was shot on film? Because I thought that was the case, but the last time I brought it up I had a few zillion people jump on my back and say "Nuh uh, it was shot on video!".

mjbok: Rising_Zan_Samurai_Gunman: I'm most curious to see how they handle things like the neural parasites from the season 1 episode Conspiracy, which were originally choppy animation

I wonder if they'll redo the Crystaline Entity, because it looks really, really bad.

They'll have to. It was completely CG.

The Conspiracy parasites were stop-motion animated. They could conceivably use the same animation and add blur to them.

So it really was lavender-hued. It's good to know that it wasn't just a problem with my television.

T. Dawg: She likes Worf because "he's cute!"

Uh oh, sounds like she got the bumpy headed jungle fever....


/I'm sorry, that's terrible.
//but srsly, no black guys, okay sweetheart?

Locutus shot first

Shazam999: So TNG was shot on film? Because I thought that was the case, but the last time I brought it up I had a few zillion people jump on my back and say "Nuh uh, it was shot on video!".

Shot on film, edited on video for season 1 and *I think* part of season 2.