no no no no nonononononononononononononono! NO!
Just got in from chorus reh, to this worse than bad news ....
If there's been poison coming thru the pipes, that means Alien's getting it too!
We all knew poor wee Benners' days were numbered, but not Gremlin too!
I need to stay up past threadclose to read. Saw 200 more than when we left for rehearsals, but didn't think this could've been then reason. Thought several somebodies
were just posting a bunch.

RIP you sweet little guy.

domari: I didn't check on FB for a while tonight, just saw Alien's post, feel l terrible, so sad for her. This just tore my heart out. :(
Oh I hope Gremlin will be ok. I know Ben has been sick for a while from other things, but Gremlin was doing just fine.
This just sucks so much.

She loved him so much; he brought so much joy. Please, please let Gremlin pull through.

mousiebelle: Our Alien needs us more than ever now. Not sure how to go about helping, though... Thoughts??

She needs a better apartment...she's mentioned mold and other things which did not contribute to good health for her or the kitties.

I can kick in a few US bucks towards a deposit...is someone close enough to help her go hunting?

syzygy whizz: mousiebelle: Our Alien needs us more than ever now. Not sure how to go about helping, though... Thoughts??

She needs a better apartment...she's mentioned mold and other things which did not contribute to good health for her or the kitties.

I can kick in a few US bucks towards a deposit...is someone close enough to help her go hunting?

Me too. Or perhaps towards a car - unless someone has one just sitting around gathering dust.

syzygy whizz: mousiebelle: Our Alien needs us more than ever now. Not sure how to go about helping, though... Thoughts??

She needs a better apartment...she's mentioned mold and other things which did not contribute to good health for her or the kitties.

I can kick in a few US bucks towards a deposit...is someone close enough to help her go hunting?

I'll pass the info to one girl in her area I'm friends with on FB.
it is agreed she needs a better place to live.

DingleberryMoose: quantum_jellyroll: Twiddled...

That's funnier than you know, because I just shaved off that beard and look a bit like Elmer in real life.

Check your email in a few minutes...

///no words can convey how I feel...

Agent Paper: mousiebelle: Our Alien needs us more than ever now. Not sure how to go about helping, though... Thoughts??

I was wondering the same thing. I know that there are Farkers that have contact info but I don't want to smother her. We just need to find a way to let her know that we're all here for her and that, figments or not, we all care very much.

It sounds like we need to find her a better place to live. Bloody Hell.

Wishing we could sue the crap out of the apartment owner, or something. Sounds like a shiathole, with all the things going on. All she wanted was a peaceful place to live with her kitties, she was so excited moving there, the place looked nice, she showed everyone photos of her new place and furniture, and I thought she'd have the chance to relax and be happy.
Then the fire alarms, the leak, the mold, raccoons, one damn thing after another.

Years ago I sued a ghetto apartment complex I lived in and was injured. When the lawyer asked what I expected to get out of it, I said I wanted enough money to never have to live like that again.

Nobody should have to live in hell because of slumlords who don't care care of buildings or care about those who live there.

Mods
please don't close us down for a while
please?

DingleberryMoose: Leepj: syzygy whizz: mousiebelle: Our Alien needs us more than ever now. Not sure how to go about helping, though... Thoughts??

She needs a better apartment...she's mentioned mold and other things which did not contribute to good health for her or the kitties.

I can kick in a few US bucks towards a deposit...is someone close enough to help her go hunting?

Me too. Or perhaps towards a car - unless someone has one just sitting around gathering dust.

Think on it until the next green. $20 per caturdayer would pay a deposit and first month's rent on something, especially if the lurkers kicked in. I don't know the public transportation situation where she lives, so I don't know about the car.

Count me in...who's holding the pot?

I'd chip in a 20. Let me know when/how and it's there!

for Alien

DingleberryMoose: Leepj: syzygy whizz: mousiebelle: Our Alien needs us more than ever now. Not sure how to go about helping, though... Thoughts??

She needs a better apartment...she's mentioned mold and other things which did not contribute to good health for her or the kitties.

I can kick in a few US bucks towards a deposit...is someone close enough to help her go hunting?

Me too. Or perhaps towards a car - unless someone has one just sitting around gathering dust.

Think on it until the next green. $20 per caturdayer would pay a deposit and first month's rent on something, especially if the lurkers kicked in. I don't know the public transportation situation where she lives, so I don't know about the car.

She has had difficulties with the public transportation available. She hates it and hates having to use it. She does have friends who can, and do, help her out with rides.

Ah hell Kim, I'm so sorry to hear that!
It's so farkin dusty in here I can't see to type. ;(
Praying for you and Gremlin.

Another hour please Mods?

It's probably a dumb question, but how does our Alien feel about moving?
Her health is kinda iffy right now from what I understand...
We love her and want to help but what does SHE want (that we can do)?

This in no way means I'm pulling out, BTW...just want a direction in which to go.

valnt9: Mods
please don't close us down for a while
please?

I was just thinking the same thing.

syzygy whizz: It's probably a dumb question, but how does our Alien feel about moving?
Her health is kinda iffy right now from what I understand...
We love her and want to help but what does SHE want (that we can do)?

This in no way means I'm pulling out, BTW...just want a direction in which to go.

Not a dumb question at all! And I agree. If there is a way we can help, we will.

Dayum...and some people think we're not real.

syzygy whizz: It's probably a dumb question, but how does our Alien feel about moving?
Her health is kinda iffy right now from what I understand...
We love her and want to help but what does SHE want (that we can do)?

This in no way means I'm pulling out, BTW...just want a direction in which to go.

She mentioned last week that her building was condemned or going to be condemned. There was a sign in the lobby or hallway.
So I don't think she's going to have many options other than to move.

Agent Paper: Ok I work for the Department of Justice in Alberta and while it's not in anyway related to the DoJ in BC, I'll make some calls and inquiries and see about getting some retribution for Benners and Alien. I'll also see if there is some sort of BC agency that can help maybe the Department of Health will look into this sort of thing I know they do here.

I'm happy to throw in money to help with a move. I also have family that lives out in the Vancouver area I'll get in touch with them and pump them for information.

That would be awesome!
Thank you for this.

DingleberryMoose: syzygy whizz: who's holding the pot?

I get in trouble for holding that kind of thing. Prolly because I smoke everybody else's.

Leepj: She has had difficulties with the public transportation available. She hates it and hates having to use it. She does have friends who can, and do, help her out with rides.

OK, not great but doable. That means housing is far more imperative. Anything that'll sicken a cat will sicken a Kim and she has problems enough with her health. The problem will be helping her find a place (assuming she wants to) that she can afford if we pitch in for the deposit/first month.

/damn practical engineering degree rears its ugly head

OK, so let's be practical. How much money are we looking at (not that I have any doubts about the Caturday Crew)...and the big question is who can help with looking?
I'm guessing that Kim's energy level is about sub-basement about now...she's gonna need a leg-person on the ground here.

DingleberryMoose: syzygy whizz: who's holding the pot?

I get in trouble for holding that kind of thing. Prolly because I smoke everybody else's.

Leepj: She has had difficulties with the public transportation available. She hates it and hates having to use it. She does have friends who can, and do, help her out with rides.

OK, not great but doable. That means housing is far more imperative. Anything that'll sicken a cat will sicken a Kim and she has problems enough with her health. The problem will be helping her find a place (assuming she wants to) that she can afford if we pitch in for the deposit/first month.

/damn practical engineering degree rears its ugly head

Ugly head? No - practical is good. Thank you.

Just a guess, but I'm betting on some kind of drain cleaner due to the backed up plumbing.
If funds are needed for whatever, count me in.
/not a fig newton of your imagination.
//thanks mods!

syzygy whizz: Dayum...and some people think we're not real.

Oh we're all real, as it's been said before.... never underestimate the power of Caturday!!!!!

Can we do something like the thread for the Alien Tour?
A lot of the gang have signed off and won't be back until Thursday night...

Izzit just me who wants to do something RIGHT NOW?

/ dusty in here, dammit...

Spinach Gunk is the closest. I also have a cat rescue contact who lives near Vancouver, close to where Alien is. Maybe I can get her involved somehow too.

Agent Paper: syzygy whizz: It's probably a dumb question, but how does our Alien feel about moving?
Her health is kinda iffy right now from what I understand...
We love her and want to help but what does SHE want (that we can do)?

This in no way means I'm pulling out, BTW...just want a direction in which to go.

That's a very good point I guess we all just assumed based on what's just happened. Ok how about this we find a way to start a fund for whatever Alien wants.

I have an e-mail in my profile so if someone knows how to get this done or this goes back to Tfer land please let me know who I can get in touch with or what Alien needs.

I'll be in touch in the morning.

Came back in on a hunch. I speak for Plumbicon too when I say we'll make a contrib. Didn't see that the query of who'll hold the pot was answered yet --
Way off topic to a better time this eve, before the news -- I'll bring a pic of me next time. Actually, there's one that's not super current that's of both of us that turned up yesterday.

valnt9: Agent Paper: syzygy whizz: It's probably a dumb question, but how does our Alien feel about moving?
Her health is kinda iffy right now from what I understand...
We love her and want to help but what does SHE want (that we can do)?

This in no way means I'm pulling out, BTW...just want a direction in which to go.

That's a very good point I guess we all just assumed based on what's just happened. Ok how about this we find a way to start a fund for whatever Alien wants.

I have an e-mail in my profile so if someone knows how to get this done or this goes back to Tfer land please let me know who I can get in touch with or what Alien needs.

I'll be in touch in the morning.

Email me, too, please. EIP.
Thanks.

valnt9: Agent Paper: syzygy whizz: It's probably a dumb question, but how does our Alien feel about moving?
Her health is kinda iffy right now from what I understand...
We love her and want to help but what does SHE want (that we can do)?

This in no way means I'm pulling out, BTW...just want a direction in which to go.

That's a very good point I guess we all just assumed based on what's just happened. Ok how about this we find a way to start a fund for whatever Alien wants.

I have an e-mail in my profile so if someone knows how to get this done or this goes back to Tfer land please let me know who I can get in touch with or what Alien needs.

I'll be in touch in the morning.

Add me as well, please.

/would like to see a slum lord living in a sewer pipe under a freeway!

syzygy whizz: ThePuceGuardian: syzygy whizz:

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Thanks Puce Guardian!
From both Wimsicle and his hoomun

Query: Why 'puce'? From what I understand that's an insipid sort of pink...
Why not something like 'argent' (silver)?

I am not nearly cool enough to be 'argent'.

DingleberryMoose: When you graduate from your basic skills class and go into the world as a social worker, you are given a (nicer) copy of this:

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Take it to heart, folks.

I had a video of that on my cat rescue website. I think of it often when I get frustrated that I can't save them all. I need to remember I make a difference for those I do save.

We can all do whatever it takes to make a difference.

DingleberryMoose: syzygy whizz: Can we do something like the thread for the Alien Tour?
A lot of the gang have signed off and won't be back until Thursday night...

Izzit just me who wants to do something RIGHT NOW?

/ dusty in here, dammit...

Everybody wants to do something RIGHT NOW. In this particular case, RIGHT NOW is a very bad time. We have a situation here where we have a lovely young lady who's been battling health problems for some time, is feeling alone and lonely, and just lost someone she cares deeply about. What she doesn't need is a bunch of pushy assholes from some damn website telling her what she has to do. What she needs is to know we'll help out however we can whenever she's ready to do something. That means we have to be patient and let her grieve and not push her into a decision she'll regret later.

/damn practical social work training

Yeah, you're right. I'll step back.
Good point. :)
/emotions get the best of me

DingleberryMoose: syzygy whizz: Can we do something like the thread for the Alien Tour?
A lot of the gang have signed off and won't be back until Thursday night...

Izzit just me who wants to do something RIGHT NOW?

/ dusty in here, dammit...

Everybody wants to do something RIGHT NOW. In this particular case, RIGHT NOW is a very bad time. We have a situation here where we have a lovely young lady who's been battling health problems for some time, is feeling alone and lonely, and just lost someone she cares deeply about. What she doesn't need is a bunch of pushy assholes from some damn website telling her what she has to do. What she needs is to know we'll help out however we can whenever she's ready to do something. That means we have to be patient and let her grieve and not push her into a decision she'll regret later.

/damn practical social work training

no, you're right.
but we can get the wheels greased so when she's
able to look up again she'll see us standing with open arms
ready to help any way we can.
any of you with Face Book check the Caturday page.
that will do as a posting board for the time being.
all you "real" people, get ready!
Caturday is going into action, again!!

DingleberryMoose is right, actually. Righteous Wrath hath a place, & while here & now may be that place, it mustn't slop over onto Alien. All we can truly do is decide we're gonna help, & offer. Not insist.
There was a Wheels project that started but didn't appear to get terribly far. ASAP whenever that can be, a Move is more important. But there we go, trying to decide for her yet again.

DingleberryMoose: syzygy whizz: Can we do something like the thread for the Alien Tour?
A lot of the gang have signed off and won't be back until Thursday night...

Izzit just me who wants to do something RIGHT NOW?

/ dusty in here, dammit...

Everybody wants to do something RIGHT NOW. In this particular case, RIGHT NOW is a very bad time. We have a situation here where we have a lovely young lady who's been battling health problems for some time, is feeling alone and lonely, and just lost someone she cares deeply about. What she doesn't need is a bunch of pushy assholes from some damn website telling her what she has to do. What she needs is to know we'll help out however we can whenever she's ready to do something. That means we have to be patient and let her grieve and not push her into a decision she'll regret later.

/damn practical social work training

Thanks...needed that.
So...we let her know what we've come up with and she let us know what wants to do with it, right?

Sorry...my reaction to stuff like this is "do something practical right this instant" while I process shiat...
my first question to my dad when he told me he was having surgery for glioblastoma was to ask what his blood type was (in case he needed blood and I could maybe donate).
I cried later...

I'm a Caturday lurker, and I'll donate to make her life a little better. Count me in.

Rest in peace, little Ben Hurrr. Hang in there, Gremlin. Keep fighting, Alien. You're not alone. People care.

DingleberryMoose:
FYI, I check Facebook a hell of a lot more frequently than my email.

You may want to temporarily change that strategy.
There's a hellacious Caturday backchannel via email and telephone.
Amazing things happen that way.