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ManateeGag
2012-01-05 02:12:27 PM
I thought it was something Metlife stadium decided to so, didn't pay attention to how loud it was. Stadiums play special music for touchdown all over the league, so why not?
legendary
2012-01-05 02:14:47 PM
Was at the game, it wasn't the stadium, although they do play salsa for Cruz sometimes.
FreakinB
2012-01-05 02:59:52 PM
I never understood the celebration rules in the NFL. It's entertainment. So long as it's not mean-spirited (looking at you, Stevie Johnson) and it's not a full-team song-and-dance number like in Baseketball or that Family Guy episode, let it go.
Anyway, the Cruz dance is fantastic. And not just because he's on the Giants.
/Cruuuuuuuuuuuz
DjangoStonereaver
2012-01-05 03:09:33 PM
Though I understand why the NFL created the Gastineau rule (only a self important
prick would celebrate ever little tackle, which is what Mark Gastineau was and is),
they have certainly taken it waaaaaay beyond any semblence of sanity to try and
predict the illusionary seriousness of the game.
Rapmaster2000
2012-01-05 04:30:53 PM
Well, let's see. The networks have their faces out there (yeah, you Costas) yammering about "integrity" and yet they not only show the dances they show it again in the replays.
The league wants to pretend it's protecting some golden past of sportsmanship - a past which included clotheslines, Dick Butkus, and the entire Giant's defense trying to tear off Emmitt Smith's arm.
The fans are just schizophrenic. One day it's "how dare Suh do Aaron Rodgers move! How dare he do Tim Tebow's move!" And yet the fans cheer when those guys do their moves. I'm old enough to remember the screaming and whining about Deion's moves and yet the love for the Icky Shuffle. It's as if the fans' attitude regarding endzone dances is entirely dependent on the media personality of the person currently doing the dance right in front of them.
bdub77
2012-01-05 05:14:41 PM
FreakinB
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I never understood the celebration rules in the NFL
Black people tax.
Barry McCackiner
2012-01-05 05:15:41 PM
I thought it was hilarious. Who cares about Bob Costas. Bob Costas is not the network. They don't tell him what to say. They may have final approval, but they aren't telling him to rail against celebrations.
While I haven't seen them do such a blatant celebration enhancement before, I have heard plenty of times where they play outro music that riffs on what just happened in the game. If you understand the connection it is often quite funny.
Gunny Highway
2012-01-05 05:17:44 PM
fark you Bob Costas. Little prick.
laststarfighter
2012-01-05 05:18:40 PM
NBC had ran a short interview with him before the game where he talked about the dance being a tribute to his mom or grandma (didn't pay that close attention). So I wasn't shocked when they played the music. At least he said he doesn't do the dance if they are losing bad.
Weigard
2012-01-05 05:20:20 PM
FreakinB
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So long as it's not mean-spirited (looking at you, Stevie Johnson) and it's not a full-team song-and-dance number like in Baseketball or that Family Guy episode, let it go.
Why not? I demand entertainment.
I Have The Touch of a Shocked Monkey
2012-01-05 05:25:25 PM
The one time I don't watch my football game in Spanish, I miss THIS. I would've loved to see what the Mexican ESPN guys would've said about NBC playing salsa over Cruz's TD dance.
merkey88
2012-01-05 05:27:43 PM
Did they not play the salsa music when Laurent Robinson was doing the same dance?
/isn't any different than hitters getting their own song played before they come up to bat
//just as stupid
jayhawk88
2012-01-05 05:30:35 PM
This is all Ickey Woods' fault.
TonnageVT
2012-01-05 05:32:10 PM
Sorry, I just kept watching that TD over and over again. That and the 99 yarder against the Jets...
/crrruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuzzz
HaywoodJablonski
2012-01-05 05:33:28 PM
I Have The Touch of a Shocked Monkey
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The one time I don't watch my football game in Spanish, I miss THIS. I would've loved to see what the Mexican ESPN guys would've said about NBC playing salsa over Cruz's TD dance.
They wouldn't care since Mexicans don't salsa. They merengue.
emocomputerjock
2012-01-05 05:37:41 PM
Rapmaster2000
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Well, let's see. The networks have their faces out there (yeah, you Costas) yammering about "integrity" and yet they not only show the dances they show it again in the replays.
The league wants to pretend it's protecting some golden past of sportsmanship - a past which included clotheslines, Dick Butkus, and the entire Giant's defense trying to tear off Emmitt Smith's arm.
The fans are just schizophrenic. One day it's "how dare Suh do Aaron Rodgers move! How dare he do Tim Tebow's move!" And yet the fans cheer when those guys do their moves. I'm old enough to remember the screaming and whining about Deion's moves and yet the love for the Icky Shuffle. It's as if the fans' attitude regarding endzone dances is entirely dependent on the media personality of the person currently doing the dance right in front of them.
Ladanian Tomlinson being epically butthurt about another man's dance being stolen is one of the funniest things I've ever read in my life.
Representative of the unwashed masses
2012-01-05 05:39:41 PM
Make it simple. Give a player 3 seconds after scoring a TD, causing a turnover etc to do whatever he wants. After that? 15 yard flag.
m1ke
2012-01-05 05:41:14 PM
Bob Costas, ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?
Lt. Cheese Weasel
2012-01-05 05:47:45 PM
jayhawk88
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This is all Ickey Woods' fault.
Um, no. It isn't.
Goes back a mite further than that....
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ZMugg
2012-01-05 05:51:32 PM
HaywoodJablonski
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I Have The Touch of a Shocked Monkey: The one time I don't watch my football game in Spanish, I miss THIS. I would've loved to see what the Mexican ESPN guys would've said about NBC playing salsa over Cruz's TD dance.
They wouldn't care since Mexicans don't salsa. They
merengue
.
Treygreen13
2012-01-05 05:54:26 PM
More likely the production crew had watched Cruz all year and saw how abysmal the Cowboys big play D was. I'm a huge Cowboys fan and I started him on my fantasy roster and picked the Cows to lose. If I were in that booth I would have had 4 kinds of salsa music lined up and have a "number of tackles in which Terrence Newman made Deion Sanders look like Chuck Bednarik" graphic ready to put up.
rudemix
2012-01-05 05:55:20 PM
This only comes up because he's tagged up there. Collinsworth is the voice I hate most of all of anyone, anywhere calling sports in some manner. To me he's worse than Kornheiser, Gruden, Dennis Miller, the guy calling Mexican wrestling in Spanish, the guy calling long distance running in Africa who speaks a language of clicks and grunts. In fact, I would rather listen to all the above speaking at once, than Collinsworth speaking by himself.
Pratty
2012-01-05 06:02:32 PM
Lt. Cheese Weasel
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jayhawk88: This is all Ickey Woods' fault.
Um, no. It isn't. Goes back a mite further than that.... (new window)
Everyone loves the Funky Chicken.
AppleOptionEsc
2012-01-05 06:07:20 PM
Rapmaster2000
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Well, let's see. The networks have their faces out there (yeah, you Costas) yammering about "integrity" and yet they not only show the dances they show it again in the replays.
The league wants to pretend it's protecting some golden past of sportsmanship - a past which included clotheslines, Dick Butkus, and the entire Giant's defense trying to tear off Emmitt Smith's arm.
The fans are just schizophrenic. One day it's "how dare Suh do Aaron Rodgers move! How dare he do Tim Tebow's move!" And yet the fans cheer when those guys do their moves. I'm old enough to remember the screaming and whining about Deion's moves and yet the love for the Icky Shuffle. It's as if the fans' attitude regarding endzone dances is entirely dependent on the media personality of the person currently doing the dance right in front of them.
In a perfect world, players would not act like 12 year old ADD riddled boys, but players are human, and as such, subject to being idiots and/or arseholes.
Personally, I think it's fine to celebrate sacking the QB with a fist pump or arm raised warhowl. Tebowing or acting like you just made your first appearance on WWE RAW, however, is douchebag material.
Taunting or excessive celebration makes the news for maybe 4 games a year, and mostly only because the guy was truly being a Dbag. Statistically, it's not world ending, but I think the NFL should go and use thier noggin. Google the stories from the past 8 years or so on some guy being a douche. compare them, and see what the problem is.
But apparently is easier to pussyfoot around the situation instead of making hard fast rules, for fear of pissing the non-existant fans who would stop watching if the one game a year some guy would act his supposed age.
Gunny Highway
2012-01-05 06:10:05 PM
AppleOptionEsc
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acting like you just made your first appearance on WWE RAW, however, is douchebag material.
COME ON BABY!!!! YEA!!! YEA YEA YEA!!!! COME ONNNNN!!!! WOOOO!!! COME ON BABYYYYY!!!
OtherLittleGuy
2012-01-05 06:17:11 PM
Meanwhile, little Johnny playing Pop Warner, who scored probably the only touchdown in his life, is penalized for "excessive celebration" and "unsportsmanlike conduct" because he waved to his parents after he scored.
Captain Steroid
2012-01-05 06:20:22 PM
If Roethlisberger scores a TD on Sunday, I want someone to play "Rape Me" by Nirvana.
feefifofimmy
2012-01-05 06:23:56 PM
HaywoodJablonski
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I Have The Touch of a Shocked Monkey: The one time I don't watch my football game in Spanish, I miss THIS. I would've loved to see what the Mexican ESPN guys would've said about NBC playing salsa over Cruz's TD dance.
They wouldn't care since Mexicans don't salsa. They merengue.
and do the cha-cha
Whatthefark
2012-01-05 06:24:49 PM
I'd like to see them play "Girls, Girls, Girls" while focusing on the cheerleaders.
TheNyquilKid
2012-01-05 06:30:15 PM
Last year NBC SNF played Linkin Park on their way to break with a close up of emo face Cutler.
/I wish someone would have put that on Youtube. It was pure unadulterated win
coolio mack
2012-01-05 06:33:20 PM
Guys have to do these sorts of things to make endorsement money. Look at Chad Johnson for example. He was a really good player for a period of time, but probably not a guy you'd consider to be a top three receiver during his prime. He banked tons of endorsement money because he became a household name and face with the celebrations and twittering. Zero playoff wins.
Most of this stuff is about getting talked about on Sportscenter type shows and getting free publicity.
Gunny Highway
2012-01-05 06:37:10 PM
coolio mack
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Guys have to do these sorts of things to make endorsement money. Look at Chad Johnson for example. He was a really good player for a period of time, but probably not a guy you'd consider to be a top three receiver during his prime. He banked tons of endorsement money because he became a household name and face with the celebrations and twittering. Zero playoff wins.
Most of this stuff is about getting talked about on Sportscenter type shows and getting free publicity.
I think people understand why the players do it.
My issue is that Bob Costas blast the players for excessive celebrations earlier this year and we find out that NBC is playing music so a player can do an endzone dance. Mostly I just hate Bob Costas.
Sabyen91
2012-01-05 06:41:38 PM
It is so inconsistent. Ryan Grant got a flag for doing snow angels (well, there was no snow). He was already on his back and he made the snow angel motion. In the same game some guy on the Lions did a fruity white boy dance for a full ten seconds and no flag. I didn't get that.
Krieghund
2012-01-05 06:42:50 PM
bdub77
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FreakinB: I never understood the celebration rules in the NFL
Black people tax.
This.
Although, we're talking about some of the top 1% of black people, financially, so I dont know how I'm supposed to feel.
Mikey1969
2012-01-05 06:56:55 PM
I think these stupid celebrations are getting stupid and ridiculous. Same thing happened in the 80's, when everybody and their brother choreographed their own little version of the Icky Shuffle, but alot of sports play music at certain times, touchdown music, first down music, etc.... MLB has specific songs that play when each batter steps up to the plate, so Who Farking Cares? This is NOT the same as a contrived endzone dance that lasts 20 seconds. Jumping up, cheering, high fives, those are all ok, but when I have to watch some dude get down on the grass and do the Caterpillar while I'm paying for the privilege to watch the game on TV, I want to see FOOTBALL.
Mike_LowELL
2012-01-05 07:04:44 PM
Mikey1969
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when I have to watch some dude get down on the grass and do the Caterpillar
while I'm paying for the privilege to watch the game on TV, I want to see FOOTBALL.
Then you should have complained when commercials started interrupting every possession, and when that wasn't enough commercials, implemented instant replay in order to create even more breaks in the action. Little bit late to blame players for stalling the game with performance art dedicated to their accolades.
Gunny Highway
2012-01-05 07:08:37 PM
Mike_LowELL
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Mikey1969: when I have to watch some dude get down on the grass and do the Caterpillar while I'm paying for the privilege to watch the game on TV, I want to see FOOTBALL.
Then you should have complained when commercials started interrupting every possession,
*THIS COMMENT IS BROUGHT TO YOU BY CHEVY: DRIVE BIG!*
and when that wasn't enough commercials, implemented instant replay in order to create even more breaks in the action.
*DRINK BEER AND DRIVE SAFE FOOTBALL FANS! COORS ORIGINAL*
Little bit late to blame players for stalling the game with performance art dedicated
*B-O-D FOR ME. I WANT YOUR BOD!*
to their accolades.
robsul82
2012-01-05 07:08:39 PM
As long as they don't throw the flag on Jimmy Graham's dunks, I don't care.
wandererobtm101
2012-01-05 07:13:47 PM
robsul82
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As long as they don't throw the flag on Jimmy Graham's dunks, I don't care.
The goalpost dunk and and Lambeau leap are grandfathered into the rule. No flags for Jimmy.
Mike_LowELL
2012-01-05 07:13:53 PM
Gunny Highway
:
Then you should have complained when commercials started interrupting every possession, *THIS COMMENT IS BROUGHT TO YOU BY CHEVY: DRIVE BIG!*and when that wasn't enough commercials, implemented instant replay in order to create even more breaks in the action. *DRINK BEER AND DRIVE SAFE FOOTBALL FANS! COORS ORIGINAL* Little bit late to blame players for stalling the game with performance art dedicated *B-O-D FOR ME. I WANT YOUR BOD!* to their accolades.
Quality post.
The $25000 Dodecahedron
2012-01-05 07:15:44 PM
FreakinB
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I never understood the celebration rules in the NFL. It's entertainment. So long as it's not mean-spirited (looking at you, Stevie Johnson) and it's not a full-team song-and-dance number like in Baseketball or that Family Guy episode, let it go.
Now a woman who'll kiss on a very first date
Is usually a hussy
And a woman who'll kiss on the second time out
Is anything but fussy
But a woman who'll wait 'till the third time around
Head in the clouds, feet on the ground
She's the girl he's glad he's found
She's his Shipoopi
Shipoopi, Shipoopi, Shipoopi
The girl who's hard to get
Shipoopi, Shipoopi, Shipoopi
But you can win her yet
Walk her once just to raise the curtain
Walk around twice and you make for certain
Once more in the flower garden
She will never get sore if you beg her pardon
Do, re, mi, fa, so, la, si, do
Si, la, so, fa, mi, re, do
Squeeze her once when she isn't lookin'
Get a squeeze back that's fancy cookin'
Once more for a pepper-upper
She will never get sore on her way to supper
Do, re, mi, fa, so, la, si, do, si, do
Now little ol' sal was a No-gal
As anyone could see
Look at her now, She's a Go-Gal
Who only goes for me
Squeeze her once when she isn't lookin'
Get a squeeze back that's fancy cookin'
Once more for a pepper-upper
She will never get sore on her way to supper
Do, re, mi, fa, so, la, si, do, si, do
Shipoopi, shipoopi, shipoopi
The girl who's hard to get
Shipoopi, shipoopi, shipoopi
But you can win her yet
OregonVet
2012-01-05 07:28:36 PM
FreakinB
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I never understood the celebration rules in the NFL. It's entertainment. So long as it's not mean-spirited (looking at you, Stevie Johnson) and it's not a full-team song-and-dance number like in Baseketball or that Family Guy episode, let it go.
Agreed. It really separates the sofakingwetadeds from the rest of the group. Example (not a RR):
Link
(new window).
hbk72777
2012-01-05 07:31:53 PM
I'm a Giants fan, I have no problem with Cruz doing it, because when he scores, it's usually in grand fashion. I can't stand when washed up Jacobs makes a 1 yd td run and acts like a moron, or Bradshaw holding the ball out before he gets into the end zone (ask Leon Lett how that can go wrong). The worst was Shockey acting like an ass in the '02 playoffs, in which the 9ers came back from the dead.
robsul82
2012-01-05 07:38:29 PM
hbk72777
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or Bradshaw holding the ball out before he gets into the end zone
Holding the ball out is perfectly acceptable under certain circumstances.
Barry McCackiner
2012-01-05 07:44:38 PM
Mike_LowELL
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Mikey1969: when I have to watch some dude get down on the grass and do the Caterpillar while I'm paying for the privilege to watch the game on TV, I want to see FOOTBALL.
Then you should have complained when commercials started interrupting every possession, and when that wasn't enough commercials, implemented instant replay in order to create even more breaks in the action. Little bit late to blame players for stalling the game with performance art dedicated to their accolades.
Are you implying that instant replays are a tactic to make the game last longer and get in more advertisements?
jaylectricity
2012-01-05 08:03:39 PM
Anybody who thinks that NBC playing a little salsa music for the entertainment of their viewers equates to a player premeditating his celebration is an idiot. If Cruz busted out a boombox, or if he asked the stadium staff to play the song for him, that might be cause for concern.
Barry McCackiner
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Are you implying that instant replays are a tactic to make the game last longer and get in more advertisements?
No, they don't want longer games. They've got this timing thing down to a science.
IAmRight
2012-01-05 08:07:04 PM
jaylectricity
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No, they don't want longer games. They've got this timing thing down to a science.
They just want to eliminate as much actual on-field viewing as possible.
jaylectricity
2012-01-05 08:23:45 PM
IAmRight
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jaylectricity: No, they don't want longer games. They've got this timing thing down to a science.
They just want to eliminate as much actual on-field viewing as possible.
And from what I understand, when a team calls a timeout and the ref says, "This will be a 30 second timeout," he's basically saying that they finally played all the commercials and they won't be needing to go to break.
RminusQ
2012-01-05 09:06:40 PM
robsul82
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hbk72777: or Bradshaw holding the ball out before he gets into the end zone
Holding the ball out is perfectly acceptable under certain circumstances.
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I swear if Ahmad Bradshaw pulls that shiat on Sunday, I will lose it.
John Buck 41
2012-01-05 09:33:23 PM
Gunny Highway
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fark you Bob Costas. Little prick.
Agreed. I don't get the the mass adoration for the smarmy little weasel.
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