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Methadone Girls
2012-01-05 09:59:14 AM
That poor mom. It sounds like she doesn't have a lot of support as it is. Now they're going to toss her in jail because her son is severely autistic and has trouble with morning routines. *shakes head*
Just wait till they change his environment and he doesn't sleep through the night and starts having temper tantrums.
I_Am_Weasel
2012-01-05 10:29:46 AM
Who'd have thought truancy would be a problem at a MISD school.
/it's right there! In the name!
skammie
2012-01-05 10:54:38 AM
Hey, I don't feel tardy!
ytterbium
2012-01-05 10:56:15 AM
*looks over shoulder for the po-po
/wtf, jail? Really?
jaylectricity
2012-01-05 10:58:20 AM
"Some days he will just shut down on me and not want to go," Andria says.
I don't think she should go to jail for her kid missing school. She could go to jail for being a bad mother.
/not really
Sybarite
2012-01-05 11:21:31 AM
gopher321
2012-01-05 11:31:23 AM
'Tard thread!
brigid_fitch
2012-01-05 11:33:27 AM
FTFA:
"Sixteen days off so far this school year - made up of some 10 minute tardy's, and sick days have added up to possible jail time for the mother of an autistic 9-year-old boy."
Who the hell wrote that sentence, the autistic kid who won't go to school? Why is that dash there? Why the comma after tardy's? And does the author not know how to pluralize tardy??
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"Some days he will just shut down on me and not want to go," Andria says.
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He's 9. Either drag him bodily or figure out how to homeschool.
AcneVulgaris
2012-01-05 11:40:37 AM
People at the school are probably relieves when he doesn't show up.
namegoeshere
2012-01-05 11:41:29 AM
Lol, Subby.
Plus one, with new liter uselessness.
SweetSaws
2012-01-05 11:41:59 AM
Awesomely funny headline, woooooot!!!
rjakobi
2012-01-05 11:45:05 AM
Methadone Girls
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That poor mom. It sounds like she doesn't have a lot of support as it is. Now they're going to toss her in jail because her son is severely autistic and has trouble with morning routines. *shakes head*
Just wait till they change his environment and he doesn't sleep through the night and starts having temper tantrums.
Then they'll just have to euthanize him.
namegoeshere
2012-01-05 11:45:07 AM
Yes, removing this child from the environment with which he is familiar and placing him in foster care among strangers will do wonders for his ability to function appropriately and follow routines.
A whole bunch o' folks involved with this case are not familiar with the needs of autistic children.
utsagrad123
2012-01-05 11:46:49 AM
I think this should be HOTY just so subby will get outed at the end of the year.
tuxq
2012-01-05 11:51:17 AM
That's retarded.
/in an out
trappedspirit
2012-01-05 11:52:05 AM
I was joking around with my niece (15) about the behavior of my mom (her grandmother). I said she was retired and that after a while retired people start acting retireded, which is best said out loud. We found several more ways to work that word into some sentences. It was good for at least 10 minutes of fun.
orclover
2012-01-05 11:52:44 AM
Honestly we should just shoot the parents of Autistic kids when they refuse to go to school, myself included. Mind you its not all the catch all "autism", my boys real diagnosis he wont receive until he's 16, state law or some other bullshiat. Thats when they bump him from "autistic" to "Schizophrenic". So yea most days he'll go to school, other days you cant even get him to put clothes on, or he'll shiat his pants in the car so he can go home, or he'll just collapse on a puddle on the floor and scream and kick if you go near him. But yea, jail time, not really a fix for the problem. But a shot to the back of the head, or gut if it makes you feel better yea, that would probably be for the best. You can borrow one of my guns, just get a court to sign off on it and make it all nice and legal.
farking do it you farking pussy ass pieces of shiat.
/not bitter.
Hack Patooey
2012-01-05 11:52:59 AM
Wow, I get to use this here!
NallTWD
2012-01-05 11:55:07 AM
Starting the '12 HOTY contest entries early.
RedVentrue
2012-01-05 11:55:46 AM
brigid_fitch
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FTFA: "Sixteen days off so far this school year - made up of some 10 minute tardy's, and sick days have added up to possible jail time for the mother of an autistic 9-year-old boy."
Who the hell wrote that sentence, the autistic kid who won't go to school? Why is that dash there? Why the comma after tardy's? And does the author not know how to pluralize tardy??
Anyway: "Some days he will just shut down on me and not want to go," Andria says..
He's 9. Either drag him bodily or figure out how to homeschool.
You don't seem to understand that when a 9 year old autistic kid has decided to kick your butt at 6:30 A.M., then that is how it's gonna happen.
highbrow45
2012-01-05 11:56:23 AM
It says multiple tardies... so she's dealing with more than one.
h3cubus
2012-01-05 11:56:50 AM
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My ex-wife was tardy. She's a pilot now.
Karvey
2012-01-05 11:57:17 AM
Headline of the year
Prevailing Wind
2012-01-05 11:57:49 AM
+1 Internets to you Mr. Subby.
Mayor Bee
2012-01-05 11:58:00 AM
Shouldn't have got him vaccinated then.
namegoeshere
2012-01-05 11:58:06 AM
brigid_fitch
:
FTFA: "Sixteen days off so far this school year - made up of some 10 minute tardy's, and sick days have added up to possible jail time for the mother of an autistic 9-year-old boy."
Who the hell wrote that sentence, the autistic kid who won't go to school? Why is that dash there? Why the comma after tardy's? And does the author not know how to pluralize tardy??
Anyway: "Some days he will just shut down on me and not want to go," Andria says..
He's 9. Either drag him bodily or figure out how to homeschool.
Someone here doesn't understand Tard Strength.
Evil Cat
2012-01-05 11:58:29 AM
Wow.
My poor mom would have gotten a life sentence during my high school years. My punishment for skipping school so damn much was an extra year and a half.
My inability to socialize resulted in severe social anxiety, dislike of others, and feelings of worthlessness. Ten years later I still have the same damn problems despite trying to integrate with society. I do manage to work a really shiatty retail job. I am amazed I can even do that. I am not good at it and have been downgraded to menial labor aka pushing in carts.
Hopefully, the kid is on the lower end of the spectrum. That way he will be so far off in his own world that he won't notice that no one likes him. Funny how that would be a blessing.
I just come here for the hell of it now. Why I do is beyond me. I learned long ago the internet is a terrible place to make friends.
Yeah I know, I am not boot-strapy enough, foreveralone.jpg, autism is bullshiat, go kill yourself and all that
farm machine
2012-01-05 11:59:20 AM
So if he's late again will that make him re-tardy?
THX 1138
2012-01-05 12:02:27 PM
atheneschild
2012-01-05 12:02:27 PM
Evil Cat
:
I just come here for the hell of it now. Why I do is beyond me. I learned long ago the internet is a terrible place to make friends.
Yeah I know, I am not boot-strapy enough, foreveralone.jpg, autism is bullshiat, go kill yourself and all that
Ever listen to Mental Illness Happy Hour podcast? It's awesome. Less alone is good. Peace be with you.
namegoeshere
2012-01-05 12:02:40 PM
Evil Cat
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Wow.
My poor mom would have gotten a life sentence during my high school years. My punishment for skipping school so damn much was an extra year and a half.
My inability to socialize resulted in severe social anxiety, dislike of others, and feelings of worthlessness. Ten years later I still have the same damn problems despite trying to integrate with society. I do manage to work a really shiatty retail job. I am amazed I can even do that. I am not good at it and have been downgraded to menial labor aka pushing in carts.
Hopefully, the kid is on the lower end of the spectrum. That way he will be so far off in his own world that he won't notice that no one likes him. Funny how that would be a blessing.
I just come here for the hell of it now. Why I do is beyond me. I learned long ago the internet is a terrible place to make friends.
Yeah I know, I am not boot-strapy enough, foreveralone.jpg, autism is bullshiat, go kill yourself and all that
Someone needs a (---------HUG-------)!
NightOwl2255
2012-01-05 12:05:07 PM
Methadone Girls
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Just wait till they change his environment and he doesn't sleep through the night and starts having temper tantrums.
Just wait till the Fark Asperger's find out they are being reclassified as just plain ol' high functioning autistic.
Surly U. Jest
2012-01-05 12:06:25 PM
I have a 9 year old son in the spectrum. We have been through this too. It is not easy by any stretch of the imagination. Fighting the school system to get the appropriate services is exhausting. They didn't want to test to see what his problem is. We did that out of pocket, and then they wanted to dispute the diagnosis we got from the experts (Kennedy Krieger Institute CARD) because the school psychologist thought we were stupid and were just bad parents. Knowing our rights and what the law says helped us a lot. Eventually we were able to get a valid 504 plan together and get everyone on board with my son's needs.
I pity this mom. Doing this on her own is practically impossible.
And to those who say just drag him to school or homeschool, that doesn't work. Trust me, I know. It is much harder that you could ever imagine.
Fusorfodder
2012-01-05 12:07:04 PM
I wonder if this is only such a big deal because she's Black.
chappy62
2012-01-05 12:13:49 PM
jumac
2012-01-05 12:14:48 PM
as a father of an 11 year old speical needs child and a step-father of a 7 year old one ya. Even if you drag the kid kicking and screaming to school 9 out of 10 times with in 10 mins of you getting home you got a call form the school telling you to come pick the kid up.
orclover
2012-01-05 12:20:31 PM
jumac
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as a father of an 11 year old speical needs child and a step-father of a 7 year old one ya. Even if you drag the kid kicking and screaming to school 9 out of 10 times with in 10 mins of you getting home you got a call form the school telling you to come pick the kid up.
Oh so much of farking this than you can possibly imagine.
start of the year:
Oh we can handle anything, we have seen it all!
Three weeks later:
OMFG pick him up he's bleeding/stabbing and running off campus while laughing omgomg the cops are freaking out!!!11one!
Had to have a private off the record sit down with the new teacher a couple months ago, let him know he was about to get farking hurt. Was a wake up call for him, not nearly as much so as when he got assaulted a few days later.
Nope cant fix it, bad parent, go ahead and shoot when ready. I'm sure you can do better.
NightOwl2255
2012-01-05 12:25:35 PM
orclover
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Had to have a private off the record sit down with the new teacher a couple months ago, let him know he was about to get farking hurt. Was a wake up call for him, not nearly as much so as when he got assaulted a few days later.
Are you saying your child actually presents a danger to teachers?
ytterbium
2012-01-05 12:25:56 PM
Surly U. Jest
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I have a 9 year old son in the spectrum. We have been through this too. It is not easy by any stretch of the imagination. Fighting the school system to get the appropriate services is exhausting. They didn't want to test to see what his problem is. We did that out of pocket, and then they wanted to dispute the diagnosis we got from the experts (Kennedy Krieger Institute CARD) because the school psychologist thought we were stupid and were just bad parents. Knowing our rights and what the law says helped us a lot. Eventually we were able to get a valid 504 plan together and get everyone on board with my son's needs.
I pity this mom. Doing this on her own is practically impossible.
And to those who say just drag him to school or homeschool, that doesn't work. Trust me, I know. It is much harder that you could ever imagine.
Hmmm, now I'm nervous about my son's upcoming, $600 evaluation. Even with two previous diagnoses and a 504 from his previous school, my kid's school refuses to provide services until I get the new evaluation.
He's almost 9, 4'9" and 97 lbs., not to mention an athlete. There is no physically forcing him to do anything, so I totally relate.
Just remembered that in my state's special needs policy, tardiness can be excused if a child has time/behavioral issues. I wonder if that's true for the mom from TFA.
foo monkey
2012-01-05 12:27:41 PM
utsagrad123
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I think this should be HOTY just so subby will get outed at the end of the year.
Subby should have left off the second sentence.
stovepipe
2012-01-05 12:28:02 PM
My two and a half year old was just diagnosed as being on the spectrum two weeks ago so I'm not getting a kick out of these replies.
trappedspirit
2012-01-05 12:33:51 PM
jumac
:
as a father of an 11 year old speical needs child and a step-father of a 7 year old one ya. Even if you drag the kid kicking and screaming to school 9 out of 10 times with in 10 mins of you getting home you got a call form the school telling you to come pick the kid up.
Well, once the "special needs" become a need for a team of handlers, you can't blame them.
wambu
2012-01-05 12:40:33 PM
orclover
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But yea, jail time, not really a fix for the problem.
But that gets you some 'alone time' if your beat on a guard, so not all bad.
/gotta think positive
Firethorn
2012-01-05 12:42:06 PM
ytterbium
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Just remembered that in my state's special needs policy, tardiness can be excused if a child has time/behavioral issues. I wonder if that's true for the mom from TFA.
I wonder if the mother hasn't worked this out with the school yet. Going by other comments, it can very much be a 'help those who help themselve's kind of thing, where the parents have to push for the treatment their kid needs to have.
brigid_fitch
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He's 9. Either drag him bodily or figure out how to homeschool.
He's
autistic
. They don't necessarily shut down/become a unmoving object. They throw tantrums - tard tantrums that disregard the safety limits of their own bodies.
Basically, if you just try to drag him you're not only going to make the episode worse, you're going to risk breaking bones and such as the kid flails around.
NightOwl2255
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Are you saying your child actually presents a danger to teachers?
It's certainly possible. If a kid's disabilities include violent tendencies, what are you supposed to do?
Surly U. Jest
2012-01-05 12:49:47 PM
ytterbium
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Surly U. Jest: I have a 9 year old son in the spectrum. We have been through this too. It is not easy by any stretch of the imagination. Fighting the school system to get the appropriate services is exhausting. They didn't want to test to see what his problem is. We did that out of pocket, and then they wanted to dispute the diagnosis we got from the experts (Kennedy Krieger Institute CARD) because the school psychologist thought we were stupid and were just bad parents. Knowing our rights and what the law says helped us a lot. Eventually we were able to get a valid 504 plan together and get everyone on board with my son's needs.
I pity this mom. Doing this on her own is practically impossible.
And to those who say just drag him to school or homeschool, that doesn't work. Trust me, I know. It is much harder that you could ever imagine.
Hmmm, now I'm nervous about my son's upcoming, $600 evaluation. Even with two previous diagnoses and a 504 from his previous school, my kid's school refuses to provide services until I get the new evaluation.
He's almost 9, 4'9" and 97 lbs., not to mention an athlete. There is no physically forcing him to do anything, so I totally relate.
Just remembered that in my state's special needs policy, tardiness can be excused if a child has time/behavioral issues. I wonder if that's true for the mom from TFA.
I hear ya. Son is 4'10" 119 lbs. Our 504 carries over to his next school, so we don't have that worry. We do have to deal with the truancy people when he misses a lot of time, but he is a good student, so his grades don't reflect his missed time.
We've come along way since he was diagnosed in the second grade. Back before we knew what was going on he would crawl under his desk at school and scream. Therapy has helped tremendously. These days if something upsets him he tells the teacher he needs a break and goes to the school counselor. Our biggest issue for him now is socialization. He doesn't filter what he says, so he tends to be brutally honest to people.
orclover
2012-01-05 12:58:43 PM
Firethorn
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It's certainly possible. If a kid's disabilities include violent tendencies, what are you supposed to do?
We got the private "your so farking farked" speech from the mental health deputies more than once. At this point is more about damage control. Whats worse is our 8 year old is showing signs of PTSD from all of this. Our oldest is on the list for group homes, had a call from another one a couple weeks ago that got my hopes up but they had 1 opening and 32 applicants. We have been interviewed by dozens of placement facilities and we always get the same story, he's too dangerous for them, they are afraid he might hurt their gang bangers and drug addicts.
NightOwl2255
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orclover: Had to have a private off the record sit down with the new teacher a couple months ago, let him know he was about to get farking hurt. Was a wake up call for him, not nearly as much so as when he got assaulted a few days later.
Are you saying your child actually presents a danger to teachers?
We have said it, the teachers have said it (then retire), his psychiatrist has said it his psychologist has said it. It doesnt matter, Texas does not have a support system for this issue. Well I guess they do, its called the Texas Criminal Justice system. Eventually he will be in prison or a group home if he's lucky.
wambu
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orclover: But yea, jail time, not really a fix for the problem.
But that gets you some 'alone time' if your beat on a guard, so not all bad.
/gotta think positive
Oh we dream of that believe me, but we got the 8 year old to think of. We've come close to divorce a few times just to get the kids separated for his safety. If not for the meds keeping him somewhat manageable we would/will have to take that option to keep him safe.
/would happily take a bullet to the head to fix all this.
RenownedCurator
2012-01-05 12:59:37 PM
This is like trying to cure the flu by shooting the patient in the head, it's that stupid. If they want the situation to get exponentially worse, sure, take away the kid's mom and throw her in jail for a month. Couldn't they, I don't know, modify his IEP or something to make allowances for more frequent late arrivals or something like that? Sixteen tardies/absences combined isn't an insane amount considering what the woman is dealing with -- it's not like he missed school for two straight months because she couldn't be bothered to get him up in the morning.
And yeah, "drag him to school" doesn't work when you have a nine year old kid who tantrums like a two-year-old. Try it some time! My son never threw tantrums, fortunately, but in his old special ed kindergarten he had classmates who did, and believe me, subduing an inhibition-free five-year-old was hard enough for the teachers. I can't even imagine what it will take to deal with those kids when they're older.
trappedspirit
2012-01-05 01:01:05 PM
Firethorn
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It's certainly possible. If a kid's disabilities include violent tendencies, what are you supposed to do?
The first rule of autistic fight club is...
brigid_fitch
2012-01-05 01:20:19 PM
RedVentrue
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brigid_fitch: FTFA: "Sixteen days off so far this school year - made up of some 10 minute tardy's, and sick days have added up to possible jail time for the mother of an autistic 9-year-old boy."
Who the hell wrote that sentence, the autistic kid who won't go to school? Why is that dash there? Why the comma after tardy's? And does the author not know how to pluralize tardy??
Anyway: "Some days he will just shut down on me and not want to go," Andria says..
He's 9. Either drag him bodily or figure out how to homeschool.
You don't seem to understand that when a 9 year old autistic kid has decided to kick your butt at 6:30 A.M., then that is how it's gonna happen.
namegoeshere
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Someone here doesn't understand Tard Strength.
Yeah, but "deciding to shut down" isn't flailing & kicking your butt. I have a severely autistic 9-yo nephew who can barely communicate, so I've witnessed Tard Strength first-hand. His grandmother, a retired social worker, homeschools him as best she can. I figure the kid in TFA is just sitting like a puddle in the middle of the floor, not taking a fit & beating the shiat out of the mother, otherwise the mother would have said as much. In that case, yes, pick him up & get him the hell to school.
And I know I'm going to incur a LOT of wrath here, but I have an extremely skeptical view of autism diagnoses. Yes, there are absolutely cases and it's a shame there isn't a better support system to help those children and their parents. But for every one of those truly afflicted kids, there are 3 or 4 who are diagnosed within the ever-broadening spectrum that are just complete brats or whose parents have no parenting skills. Autism has become this decade's ADHD--a "catch-all" diagnosis to explain why a bratty, uncontrollable kid won't do what he's told or isn't performing to his parents' expectations. Not saying that's the case in TFA--just saying that the term is tossed around a lot and even very few of the
actual
cases are of the screaming, flailing, pant-shiatting kind.
/Former teacher
Raptop
2012-01-05 01:22:42 PM
I hope that jail time thing is just an empty threat, maybe since she has a lawyer now, she can force an IEP meeting and get better services.
Our current problem is getting our school to honor our IEP.... there is one thing on it, which is to make sure he writes his homework in his planner. Takes all of 3 minutes at the end of the day and they don't do it, ever.
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