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xenophon10k
2012-01-05 08:08:37 AM
It only takes $34,000 a year,
after taxes
, to be among the richest 1% in the world. That's for
each person living under the same roof, including children
. (So a family of four, for example, needs to make $136,000.)
So, nope.
BillCo
2012-01-05 08:28:35 AM
Thanks goodness we have Obama doing his best to put us all in the 99%.
GAT_00
2012-01-05 08:39:32 AM
Thus excusing the fact that this county has the
5th highest Gini coefficient
in the world, following a country known for being the world's bank, a defunct economy, and a country that has a significant portion of their people who don't use money. We're officially worse than 3rd world dictatorships at equal wealth distribution, something that a few decades ago wouldn't have been thought possible.
Bonkthat_Again
2012-01-05 08:40:24 AM
How about net worth there subby? That puts most Americans on the tail end. We're all indentured servants.
Aarontology
2012-01-05 08:45:54 AM
That's nice.
But I live in the United States, not some shiathole on the other side of the planet so that metric is meaningless.
sno man
2012-01-05 08:48:15 AM
Aarontology
:
That's nice.
But I live in the United States, not some shiathole on the other side of the planet so that metric is meaningless.
You don't get down town much do you?
kingoomieiii
2012-01-05 08:49:54 AM
Aarontology
:
That's nice.
But I live in the United States, not some shiathole on the other side of the planet so that metric is meaningless.
"Why are Americans marching for AIDS awareness? They have a minority of the worldwide cases!"
"Why are Americans protesting police brutality? Most of the world has police that are MUCH more corrupt!"
"Why are Americans so vehemently opposed to corporate exploitation? They have it so nice compared to somewhere like Nigeria!"
GAT_00
2012-01-05 08:54:17 AM
sno man
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Aarontology: That's nice.
But I live in the United States, not some shiathole on the other side of the planet so that metric is meaningless.
You don't get down town much do you?
I'm sorry you live in a shiathole that doesn't know how to rebuild their downtown.
sno man
2012-01-05 09:08:12 AM
GAT_00
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sno man: Aarontology: That's nice.
But I live in the United States, not some shiathole on the other side of the planet so that metric is meaningless.
You don't get down town much do you?
I'm sorry you live in a shiathole that doesn't know how to rebuild their downtown.
Nah, I'm good. I'm on the shiny side of the great lakes.. But we have a pretty good view of Detroit just a couple of hours from here. or Flint. or Buffalo for that sort of thing. I was thinking something more like Camden or Baltimore...
kingoomieiii
2012-01-05 09:13:08 AM
sno man
:
Nah, I'm good. I'm on the shiny side of the great lakes.. But we have a pretty good view of Detroit just a couple of hours from here. or Flint. or Buffalo for that sort of thing. I was thinking something more like Camden or Baltimore...
You think ANY of those are bad? Take a vacation down to Cape Town.
South Africa- not rapists*, but #1 with rapists
*Actually,
rapists
trappedspirit
2012-01-05 10:07:10 AM
Damn it, I'm gonna Occupy My House!
Headso
2012-01-05 10:07:33 AM
if you want to feel better about what you earn go here, you put in your salary and it compares you to the rest of the world:
Link
(new window)
HotWingConspiracy
2012-01-05 10:08:57 AM
I'm going to let every poor kid I see today know that he's actually fabulously wealthy.
Arkanaut
2012-01-05 10:09:24 AM
Considering the US has a population of 310 million people, or about 4.5% of the world's population, it's impossible for us all to be in the 1%.
JackieRabbit
2012-01-05 10:09:53 AM
I'm starting an Occupy America Movement.
gadian
2012-01-05 10:10:56 AM
Oh right, just because things are pretty good considering, we can't try and make them even better?
tenpoundsofcheese
2012-01-05 10:10:56 AM
GAT_00
:
Thus excusing the fact that this county has the 5th highest Gini coefficient in the world,.
and you can thank Clinton for giving us that wealth disparity
Glass-Steagall, Fannie and Freddie certainly made it worse.
Debeo Summa Credo
2012-01-05 10:11:24 AM
Aarontology
:
That's nice.
But I live in the United States, not some shiathole on the other side of the planet so that metric is meaningless.
I'm sure residents of Greenwich, CT or Park Avenue in New York City will find your rationale useful in dismissing the need to pay to help residents of such shiatholes as Harlem or Bridgeport.
tenpoundsofcheese
2012-01-05 10:13:21 AM
Debeo Summa Credo
:
Aarontology: That's nice.
But I live in the United States, not some shiathole on the other side of the planet so that metric is meaningless.
I'm sure residents of Greenwich, CT or Park Avenue in New York City will find your rationale useful in dismissing the need to pay to help residents of such shiatholes as Harlem or Bridgeport.
bravo!
mynameisdouglas
2012-01-05 10:14:05 AM
kingoomieiii
:
Aarontology: That's nice.
But I live in the United States, not some shiathole on the other side of the planet so that metric is meaningless.
"Why are Americans marching for AIDS awareness? They have a minority of the worldwide cases!"
"Why are Americans protesting police brutality? Most of the world has police that are MUCH more corrupt!"
"Why are Americans so vehemently opposed to corporate exploitation? They have it so nice compared to somewhere like Nigeria!"
Exactly, we can focus on what is wrong with our situation in our own context.
I wouldn't be there yet in a household of two.
kpaxoid
2012-01-05 10:14:28 AM
In the link,
Headso
:
if you want to feel better about what you earn go here, you put in your salary and it compares you to the rest of the world:
Link (new window)
In the link, I put what was leftover from what I earned, not what I earned. About $100.
The website pronounced me the richest person in the world.
Super Chronic
2012-01-05 10:16:03 AM
kingoomieiii
:
sno man: Nah, I'm good. I'm on the shiny side of the great lakes.. But we have a pretty good view of Detroit just a couple of hours from here. or Flint. or Buffalo for that sort of thing. I was thinking something more like Camden or Baltimore...
You think ANY of those are bad? Take a vacation down to Cape Town.
South Africa- not rapists*, but #1 with rapists
*Actually, rapists
Just went there last month, and man. I was struck by the slum by the highway on the way from Stellenbosch into the city. Not that it existed, which I knew, but just the sheer size of it. Keep driving for 5-10 minutes and you're still going past it, one little tin hut after another.
But they did have electricity, presumably thanks to some NGO or another.
Debeo Summa Credo
2012-01-05 10:16:04 AM
GAT_00
:
Thus excusing the fact that this county has the 5th highest Gini coefficient in the world, following a country known for being the world's bank, a defunct economy, and a country that has a significant portion of their people who don't use money. We're officially worse than 3rd world dictatorships at equal wealth distribution, something that a few decades ago wouldn't have been thought possible.
Why does Gini coefficient make a difference in countries vs. globally? If you really want equal wealth distribution, you should be writing personal checks to folks in central america, haiti, sub-saharan africa, and much of Asia, etc.
CygnusDarius
2012-01-05 10:17:30 AM
gadian
:
Oh right, just because things are pretty good considering, we can't try and make them even better?
I think that's the just of it. "Shut up, conform, and don't you ever complain! You could've had it worse. You could be one of those dirty messicans... Oooga booga booga, messicans!... They are taking your jobs, you know..."
kingoomieiii
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sno man: Nah, I'm good. I'm on the shiny side of the great lakes.. But we have a pretty good view of Detroit just a couple of hours from here. or Flint. or Buffalo for that sort of thing. I was thinking something more like Camden or Baltimore...
You think ANY of those are bad? Take a vacation down to Cape Town.
South Africa- not rapists*, but #1 with rapists
*Actually, rapists
You said 'rapists' thrice.
zepher
2012-01-05 10:17:51 AM
Globally, just about everyone in the US is the 1%.
So when the global revolution that the Left is pushing finally comes to the US just about everyone here will have to die.
born_yesterday
2012-01-05 10:18:42 AM
That's right you libtards, so the next time you hate freedom and America and bootstrappiness, you'd better think twice 'cause we gonna take your fridge and your evolutions.
/Would figuring in "cost-of-living" be too much to ask?
//Ah, trolltastic headlines. When your website has run out of actual humor.
Headso
2012-01-05 10:18:47 AM
tenpoundsofcheese
:
GAT_00: Thus excusing the fact that this county has the 5th highest Gini coefficient in the world,.
and you can thank Clinton for giving us that wealth disparity
I need a counter point from Weekly World News before deciding if that is true.
HotWingConspiracy
2012-01-05 10:19:06 AM
Debeo Summa Credo
:
Aarontology: That's nice.
But I live in the United States, not some shiathole on the other side of the planet so that metric is meaningless.
I'm sure residents of Greenwich, CT or Park Avenue in New York City will find your rationale useful in dismissing the need to pay to help residents of such shiatholes as Harlem or Bridgeport.
I'm sure they won't give an airborne shiat about any poor people, regardless of what anyone says. But at least helping out the locals would make some measure of sense.
tenpoundsofcheese
2012-01-05 10:20:22 AM
GAT_00
:
Thus excusing the fact that this county has the 5th highest Gini coefficient in the world, following a country known for being the world's bank, a defunct economy, and a country that has a significant portion of their people who don't use money. We're officially worse than 3rd world dictatorships at equal wealth distribution, something that a few decades ago wouldn't have been thought possible.
Clinton gave us that Gini coefficient, but you also have to ask, why does it matter if wealth is not as uniformly distributed as in other nations? Are you saying it is better to be living in a 3rd world dictatorship in which everyone is poor because that is more fair or something?
ftfa
"In the grand scheme of things, even the poorest 5% of Americans are better off financially than two thirds of the entire world"
yeah, that is horrible, huh?
CygnusDarius
2012-01-05 10:20:24 AM
zepher
:
Globally, just about everyone in the US is the 1%.
So when the global revolution that the Left is pushing finally comes to the US just about everyone here will have to die.
The left isn't really pushing it, the right is forcing it. Globally.
Hobodeluxe
2012-01-05 10:20:43 AM
tenpoundsofcheese
:
GAT_00: Thus excusing the fact that this county has the 5th highest Gini coefficient in the world,.
and you can thank Clinton for giving us that wealth disparity
Glass-Steagall, Fannie and Freddie certainly made it worse.
everyone since Nixon set foot in China has farked over the American worker.
The people of this country have allowed it's govt to send it's jobs overseas while the politicians took money from these multinationals.
they've allowed them to bankrupt us with their wars of choice and their tax cuts for the rich.
and both sides are complicit. they may give lip service to two different ideological groups of people but make no mistake. they're both the same.
and they're not working for me and you.
DamnYankees
2012-01-05 10:20:48 AM
Aarontology
:
That's nice.
But I live in the United States, not some shiathole on the other side of the planet so that metric is meaningless.
I don't even know what this means.
Abe Vigoda's Ghost
2012-01-05 10:21:36 AM
Jack Black 62
:
In other words, you OWS types need to occupy some bath houses for a while and then get a damn job and stop crying.
Why do you hate Communism?
LikeTheSearchEngine
2012-01-05 10:21:58 AM
Because context is always irrelevant, right?
GAT_00
2012-01-05 10:23:35 AM
Debeo Summa Credo
:
GAT_00: Thus excusing the fact that this county has the 5th highest Gini coefficient in the world, following a country known for being the world's bank, a defunct economy, and a country that has a significant portion of their people who don't use money. We're officially worse than 3rd world dictatorships at equal wealth distribution, something that a few decades ago wouldn't have been thought possible.
Why does Gini coefficient make a difference in countries vs. globally? If you really want equal wealth distribution, you should be writing personal checks to folks in central america, haiti, sub-saharan africa, and much of Asia, etc.
Ah yes, the 'it's all YOUR fault' Republican counterpoint to decades of their economic policies.
JackieRabbit
2012-01-05 10:23:40 AM
zepher
:
Globally, just about everyone in the US is the 1%.
So when the global revolution that the Left is pushing finally comes to the US just about everyone here will have to die.
No, no, no. You have it all wrong. We embraced supply-side and global economic theories, which made everyone in the world rich and happy. Didn't you get the talking points memo on this?
satanorsanta
2012-01-05 10:24:02 AM
Headso
:
if you want to feel better about what you earn go here, you put in your salary and it compares you to the rest of the world:
Link (new window)
It doesn't matter what your salary is it matters what your cost of living is. I put in my salary, 20k which is in the top 11% then 2k which is the top 17%. There is nowhere in the US you could pay rent without assistance for $166/mo let alone have any money for food. Even with a roommate there aren't many places for rent less than $333/mo. I've seen the site before and it is dumber every time
mitEj
2012-01-05 10:24:26 AM
Headso
:
if you want to feel better about what you earn go here, you put in your salary and it compares you to the rest of the world:
Link (new window)
Without figuring in the cost of living that is f'ng useless.
30k In rural back water gets a lot more than 30 in a major city.
Also that fun toy doesn't work after a point. Anything after a certain amount shows the same # of people richer than you. So I am going to have to call BS.
misanthropologist
2012-01-05 10:24:47 AM
The moral of the story... nothing is farked here, dude. Nothing is farked here. So shut the fark up and go back to enjoying your prosperity and freedom.
On the other hand, this points to a few things. Inequality is a problem at both local and global scales (and you can take local to mean city, state, nation, whatever...), and that problem isn't getting better, despite years of "development." One of the fascinating, if perverse, effects of "globalization" has been to bring poverty home to "developed" countries while allowing for extreme accumulation by the elite of the elite along with some moderate gains for a relatively new "global" middle class. This is how the "competitive" "free market" works... those with the resources to exploit the rest of us are more free than ever to do so, and when people lose their livelihoods through outsourcing and relocating all manner of industries, it's our own fault for not being able to "compete" with the cheaper, less empowered, less regulated labor pools elsewhere in the world. It's funny how the very values and benefits that globalization was supposed to bring to the whole world - freedom and the capacity to consume product - are being undermined in the "developed" countries, where workers are spoiled, lazy, and coddled by unions and where government regulation prevents business from maximizing gains. Do business leaders and the corporate elite expect that the folks who are "outcompeting" us for jobs are going to be able to afford to purchase their products and services? Will a small, global middle class of consumers be enough to support elite accumulation and perpetuate the exploitation of a large and growing lower class of workers?
/fark, I sound like a farking commie...
Headso
2012-01-05 10:25:06 AM
tenpoundsofcheese
:
"In the grand scheme of things, even the poorest 5% of Americans are better off financially than two thirds of the entire world"
yeah, that is horrible, huh?
if the bar is that low... yeah it kinda is pretty crappy...
SpectroBoy
2012-01-05 10:25:07 AM
BillCo
:
Thanks goodness we have Obama doing his best to put us all in the 99%.
Herpa Derp?
CygnusDarius
2012-01-05 10:25:23 AM
Jack Black 62
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He likes rapists.
Oh.
By the way, here's your badges.
LikeTheSearchEngine
2012-01-05 10:26:08 AM
DamnYankees
:
Aarontology: That's nice.
But I live in the United States, not some shiathole on the other side of the planet so that metric is meaningless.
I don't even know what this means.
It clearly means that saying, "These people make much less than you do, therefore you are rich!" is retarded, This guy in Bosnia lives comfortably on US$1000/yr. What are you complaining about? You make 20x that much!
Its almost like $1 in the US has much less
purchasing power
than in the third world.
truthseeker2083
2012-01-05 10:27:18 AM
Jack Black 62
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Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Jack Black 62: In other words, you OWS types need to occupy some bath houses for a while and then get a damn job and stop crying.
Why do you hate Communism?
Because it is a system that steals wealth.
Yup, none of that in capitalism... no sir! The rich definitely haven't gamed the system to steal from the middle and lower classes...
born_yesterday
2012-01-05 10:27:53 AM
LikeTheSearchEngine
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Because context is always irrelevant, right?
That's right, college boy. You keep using big ol' words and ideas like "context" and "cost o livin'" and "trolling for page clicks". What you don't understand is that you should be grateful for government corruption, inefficient procurement processes, wasteful spending, etc., because freedom.
/Don't touch my medicare
GoodyearPimp
2012-01-05 10:28:03 AM
"This rabble is starting to get bothersome. How do we get them to shut up without actually raising wages?"
"Well, we could use the tried and true method of convincing them to fight amongst themselves."
"Excellent. The ones who stupidly believe they'll be one of us someday can tell the rest that they should be happy to have it so well."
Headso
2012-01-05 10:28:05 AM
satanorsanta
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It doesn't matter what your salary is it matters what your cost of living is.
this is such a lame copout, commodities cost what they cost, yeah your rent might be higher here or there but if you think some guy earning 500 bucks a year is living it up just because he lives in a part of the world with a lower cost of living you're high on crack.
DamnYankees
2012-01-05 10:28:33 AM
satanorsanta
:
It doesn't matter what your salary is it matters what your cost of living is. I put in my salary, 20k which is in the top 11% then 2k which is the top 17%. There is nowhere in the US you could pay rent without assistance for $166/mo let alone have any money for food.
If you are making 20K, why would you only be spending $166/month on rent? Rent is only supposed to be 10% of your salary? I've never heard of this before.
misanthropologist
2012-01-05 10:30:09 AM
Super Chronic
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kingoomieiii: sno man: Nah, I'm good. I'm on the shiny side of the great lakes.. But we have a pretty good view of Detroit just a couple of hours from here. or Flint. or Buffalo for that sort of thing. I was thinking something more like Camden or Baltimore...
You think ANY of those are bad? Take a vacation down to Cape Town.
South Africa- not rapists*, but #1 with rapists
*Actually, rapists
Just went there last month, and man. I was struck by the slum by the highway on the way from Stellenbosch into the city. Not that it existed, which I knew, but just the sheer size of it. Keep driving for 5-10 minutes and you're still going past it, one little tin hut after another.
But they did have electricity, presumably thanks to some NGO or another.
Can't speak to the situation in SA, having never been there (except for a 6 hour layover in Joburg a few years ago), but it's quite possible that the electricity in the "slum" you saw has nothing to do with an NGO or international aid. More likely it's a product of South African being one of the wealthiest (and yet still extremely unequal) countries in Africa, and the fact that these 'slum dwellers' are paying customers for the power company. They may even have secure rights to the land where they've built their houses... if there are NGOs working in those places, they're more likely doing social outreach programs (although some of the NGOs in Nairobi slums are doing infrastructure work, focusing on access to water and sewage/waste disposal).
LikeTheSearchEngine
2012-01-05 10:30:44 AM
Headso
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tenpoundsofcheese: "In the grand scheme of things, even the poorest 5% of Americans are better off financially than two thirds of the entire world"
yeah, that is horrible, huh?
if the bar is that low... yeah it kinda is pretty crappy...
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