Humean_Nature: The GOP electorate is far too retarded to vote for such a reasonable, thinking adult.

Pretty much this. Toss in the fact that he's Mormon and you have a total no-go.

It's sad, too. Huntsman is about the only Republican I could see myself even consider voting for... but even he's spouted a couple of the nonsensical talking points over the last few weeks, presumably in an attempt to appear to have sufficient levels of crazy,

Huntsman can make some of his crazy ideas sound rational it is a skill other GOP hopefuls haven't learned and apparently voters don't appreciate.

Diogenes: Sure, last place. But he didn't participate in the caucuses.

The only way to win is to not play.

Buddy Roemer came in last place. Huntsman also got more votes than Herman Cain!

He will make a campaign stop in Portsmouth this morning.
that's the gist of tfa.

how did this.... ?
what the...?

well, i guess we can use this opportunity to do some bashing and smearing.

have at it tards.

Humean_Nature: The GOP electorate is far too retarded to vote for such a reasonable, thinking adult.

No, the reason we don't support him is because he doesn't sufficiently piss off libs. It isn't so much finding someone we can support as someone we can rub in lib faces once he wins. Why else do you think we loved Bush so much?

Poor bastard's not even getting a chance to be Not Mitt Romney for a week.

I can't understand his mentality. Clearly, he's saner than any of the other candidates, and is the most electable, and yet, he's been clumping along with a lead foot the whole time.

Seriously WTF? Why even run for President if you can't even reach out to your electorate?

Skail: It's sad, too. Huntsman is about the only Republican I could see myself even consider voting for... but even he's spouted a couple of the nonsensical talking points over the last few weeks, presumably in an attempt to appear to have sufficient levels of crazy,

He lives the same "Daddy handed me everything on a silver platter" as G.W. Bush. Bachmann, Santorum, and Cain have warped the baseline for normal in this election.

Philip J. Fry: Skail: It's sad, too. Huntsman is about the only Republican I could see myself even consider voting for... but even he's spouted a couple of the nonsensical talking points over the last few weeks, presumably in an attempt to appear to have sufficient levels of crazy,

He lives the same "Daddy handed me everything on a silver platter" as G.W. Bush. Bachmann, Santorum, and Cain have warped the baseline for normal in this election.

Maybe he doesn't take orders as well as Dubby, and that's why the neocon star chamber isn't pushing for him...

DeltaPunch: Like I do with all the GOP candidates, I disagree with Huntsman on more than one issue. But I'm not scared to death of him becoming President as much as those other whackjobs.

THIS

/ Yes I did mean to shout.

DeltaPunch: Like I do with all the GOP candidates, I disagree with Huntsman on more than one issue. But I'm not scared to death of him becoming President as much as those other whackjobs.

I sure as hell wouldn't vote for him, but it would be a good thing to have someone as actual opposition against Obama to criticize his civil liberties stances.

But then again, my guess is Huntsman would have supported NDAA and possibly SOPA...

Skail: Humean_Nature: The GOP electorate is far too retarded to vote for such a reasonable, thinking adult.

Pretty much this. Toss in the fact that he's Mormon and you have a total no-go.

It's sad, too. Huntsman is about the only Republican I could see myself even consider voting for... but even he's spouted a couple of the nonsensical talking points over the last few weeks, presumably in an attempt to appear to have sufficient levels of crazy,

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When are we going to stop pretending someone has a chance of beating Romney?

Obama included, if the economy continues to suck sack.

Cletus C.: When are we going to stop pretending someone has a chance of beating Romney?

Obama included, if the economy continues to suck sack.

You mean the economy the Republicans utterly allowed to go to sh*t during Bush's second term? THAT economy?

whidbey: Cletus C.: When are we going to stop pretending someone has a chance of beating Romney?

Obama included, if the economy continues to suck sack.

You mean the economy the Republicans utterly allowed to go to sh*t during Bush's second term? THAT economy?

You betcha! Nobody ever holds the sitting president responsible for the economy.

Shaggy_C: Humean_Nature: The GOP electorate is far too retarded to vote for such a reasonable, thinking adult.

No, the reason we don't support him is because he doesn't sufficiently piss off libs. It isn't so much finding someone we can support as someone we can rub in lib faces once he wins. Why else do you think we loved Bush so much?

Finally, some HONESTY.

whidbey: Cletus C.: When are we going to stop pretending someone has a chance of beating Romney?

Obama included, if the economy continues to suck sack.

You mean the economy the Republicans utterly allowed to go to sh*t during Bush's second term? THAT economy?

Obama on fixing the economy: " If I don't have this done in three years, then there's gonna be a one term proposition." Feb 2, 2009

Which, given past history, means he'll be the new GOP frontrunner by Sunday

given what I've seen in the last DAY from Rick "no-sex ever" Santorum and RON "hookers & blow" PAUL, it could happen.

/it's a mascot race. Stay in the back of the pack, wait for the front runners to trip over themselves.

Cletus C.: if the economy continues to suck sack.

You mean the economy that is recovering and has been for a while?

The most recent recession began in December of 2007, 13 months before Obama took office. That's according to the National Bureau of Economic Research, the nonprofit agency that tracks business cycles.

By the fourth quarter of 2008, when Bush was still in office (Obama wasn't sworn in until January of 2009), shortly after the banking crisis that resulted in the widely unpopular Bush-led federal bailouts, the economy contracted by 8.9%, according to the Commerce Department's Bureau of Economic Analysis.

The bureau found the recession officially ended in June of 2009, five months after Obama took office. The economy has grown in every quarter since then, according to the Commerce Department.

Having him as the GOP front-runner would be a vast improvement and give hope to liberals that half the country isn't batshiat insane.

SuperSeriousMan: The bureau found the recession officially ended in June of 2009, five months after Obama took office. The economy has grown in every quarter since then, according to the Commerce Department.

Yeah, but the problem is that a large percent of people feel like they haven't shared in the growth, and I don't think they're wrong to feel that way. And the reasons for that feeling go WAY deeper than one presidency. I think those reasons are due to systematic problems with our economy where a small number of people get a disproportionate share of the wealth. The system as a whole is doing better, but only a few people benefit. So, right or wrong, a lot of people feel the economy is not improving.

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: a large percent of people feel like they haven't shared in the growth

Because FOX News, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, et al keep talking about the "horrible economy" and act as though we are still in a recession. It's almost as if they had a vested interest in making Obama look bad.

SuperSeriousMan: Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: a large percent of people feel like they haven't shared in the growth

Because FOX News, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, et al keep talking about the "horrible economy" and act as though we are still in a recession. It's almost as if they had a vested interest in making Obama look bad.

or because economic growth didn't exceed inflation in 2011?

SuperSeriousMan: Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: a large percent of people feel like they haven't shared in the growth

Because FOX News, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, et al keep talking about the "horrible economy" and act as though we are still in a recession. It's almost as if they had a vested interest in making Obama look bad.

That may be a part of it. But I still feel like the bigger problem is shrinking middle class incomes and rapidly rising college, healthcare, food and fuel costs, coupled with disproportionate distribution of wealth to the already wealthy.

I saw as many Huntsman ads on TV last night as I saw Romney ads.

/NH TV must suck so badly they're buying ad time on Boston stations.

Carth: economic growth didn't exceed inflation in 2011?

If you're going to use economic numbers to support your point, try a) providing actual numbers (4Q GDP numbers haven't been released yet) and b) use numbers that actually relate to each other.

Oh, and while you're at it, look at how lowering taxes while starting two wars is what got us into this entire mess. Seems like not a single, solitary Republican wants to admit fault for royally farking up the economy and then expecting Obama to wave a magic wand and make everything all better (while at the same time working as hard as they can to prevent him from doing anything at all).

SuperSeriousMan: Cletus C.: if the economy continues to suck sack.

You mean the economy that is recovering and has been for a while?

The most recent recession began in December of 2007, 13 months before Obama took office. That's according to the National Bureau of Economic Research, the nonprofit agency that tracks business cycles.

By the fourth quarter of 2008, when Bush was still in office (Obama wasn't sworn in until January of 2009), shortly after the banking crisis that resulted in the widely unpopular Bush-led federal bailouts, the economy contracted by 8.9%, according to the Commerce Department's Bureau of Economic Analysis.

The bureau found the recession officially ended in June of 2009, five months after Obama took office. The economy has grown in every quarter since then, according to the Commerce Department.


The recession began a while before that, but the Administration refused to admit it until December of '08.

SuperSeriousMan: Cletus C.: if the economy continues to suck sack.

You mean the economy that is recovering and has been for a while?

The most recent recession began in December of 2007, 13 months before Obama took office. That's according to the National Bureau of Economic Research, the nonprofit agency that tracks business cycles.

By the fourth quarter of 2008, when Bush was still in office (Obama wasn't sworn in until January of 2009), shortly after the banking crisis that resulted in the widely unpopular Bush-led federal bailouts, the economy contracted by 8.9%, according to the Commerce Department's Bureau of Economic Analysis.

The bureau found the recession officially ended in June of 2009, five months after Obama took office. The economy has grown in every quarter since then, according to the Commerce Department.

Then tell those millions of chronically unemployed Americans to shut their Haagen-Dazs holes and enjoy the good times.

DeltaPunch: Like I do with all the GOP candidates, I disagree with Huntsman on more than one issue. But I'm not scared to death of him becoming President as much as those other whackjobs.

This. He's not going to randomly bomb Iran for no real reason, like most of the other Republican candidates (save Ron Paul) might.

Shaggy_C: Humean_Nature: The GOP electorate is far too retarded to vote for such a reasonable, thinking adult.

No, the reason we don't support him is because he doesn't sufficiently piss off libs. It isn't so much finding someone we can support as someone we can rub in lib faces once he wins. Why else do you think we loved Bush so much?

I really, really want to believe you're trolling here.

SuperSeriousMan: Carth: economic growth didn't exceed inflation in 2011?

If you're going to use economic numbers to support your point, try a) providing actual numbers (4Q GDP numbers haven't been released yet) and b) use numbers that actually relate to each other.

Oh, and while you're at it, look at how lowering taxes while starting two wars is what got us into this entire mess. Seems like not a single, solitary Republican wants to admit fault for royally farking up the economy and then expecting Obama to wave a magic wand and make everything all better (while at the same time working as hard as they can to prevent him from doing anything at all).

You don't understand how inflation and growth of GDP relate or are you just trolling? Inflation for 2011 will likely come in right around 3% (new window) while growth in GDP will end up around 1.5% (new window). Unless we see 8% growth in 4Q inflation will exceed growth again.

You don't have to agree with republicans do think Obama isn't doing a great job. He could try standing up for what he wants instead of being so damn conciliatory all the time.

cousin-merle: Buddy Roemer came in last place.

Came here to say this. Last four places:

No Preference: 135
Other: 117
Herman Cain: 58
Buddy Roemer: 31

/would like to subscribe to this "No Preference"'s newsletter.

SupplySideJesus: Shaggy_C: Humean_Nature: The GOP electorate is far too retarded to vote for such a reasonable, thinking adult.

No, the reason we don't support him is because he doesn't sufficiently piss off libs. It isn't so much finding someone we can support as someone we can rub in lib faces once he wins. Why else do you think we loved Bush so much?

I really, really want to believe you're trolling here.

It's Shaggy. He's never not trolling and he plays all possible positions, sometimes all in the same thread. I have him favorited as "Garak".

Diogenes: Sure, last place. But he didn't participate in the caucuses.

Plus Ron Paul's official Twitter account was actually mocking Huntsman's results until people started retweeting it and then the tweets magically disappeared.

Subby's not joking. Huntsman will get the next media bump and show well in New Hampshire as a result. Not that it matters. This flavor-of-the-week stuff is all just bored alternatives to the inevitable.

we should be so lucky, subby.

//right now, doesn't see what's so bad about voting restrictions. graduate educated military veterans would make one hell of an effective electorate.

//mostly a joke.