mooseyfate: Nothing more fake than seeing someone beaten into a coma.

While I understand the specific context of "someone beaten into a coma", shoot-style professional wrestling matches (which often ended in legitimate submissions, can't speak for worked or legitimate knockouts) and fixed mixed martial arts matches are as old as the modern version of the sport. Assuming the two contestants are willing to take some bruises, "real fights" can be staged very, very easily. MMA could just as easily fall back into the same cycle as professional wrestling, where matches are worked, building a group of fans who doubt as to the legitimacy of the sport, and their detractors respond with "WHY DNOT U SAY TOO HIS FACE THAT IT'S FAKE??/?" Lest we forget that pro wrestling was an offshoot of the legitimate grappling contests of the early 20th century.

One Bad Apple: Lesnar had his shot and just the act of trying to cut weight to get UNDER 265 lbs almost killed him twice.

The dude won the UFC World Heavyweight Championship. If he was a disappointment, then you might as well say the last two-and-a-half years of the UFC Heavyweight Division™ was a gigantic fraud, and that all of us were stupid for paying attention to it, because he participated in the three biggest heavyweight fights in that two-and-a-half-year stretch and the dude who took Lesnar down got dooked on in his title defense. "Lesnar was a disappointment" is apparently the cool and edgy version of "Anderson Silva, the guy who hasn't lost in nearly six years while facing the best competition in his weight class, is overrated."

Orgasmatron138: I love MMA but I hate it when guys like Sonnen treat it like pro wrestling. It's insulting to me that he thinks so little of the average fan that he believes all he has to do is troll to sell tickets.

Sonnen graduated from the WCW Power Plant and was going to be on the WCW roster, only to have that fall through when the promotion folded. I don't know why you guys are surprised. It's an even more effective means of selling tickets in mixed martial arts because most pro wrestling fans know it's a hype machine. They know they're being worked. That's why I laughed my ass off at all the Lesnar haters getting pissed off at his UFC 100 post-fight promo. I.e. "pro wrestler hated by MMA fans for being a pro wrestler get worked by pro wrestling promo after MMA match". Sonnen is in the same boat and he keeps getting people to buy the pay-per-views. If he wasn't cutting ridiculous promos, he'd just be another white dude in MMA with really good wrestling skills, and there's about a billion of those in the American world of MMA right now. Sonnen's wrestling skills may be better than that group, but they aren't good enough to sell as many pay-per-views as "Lance Armstrong did steroids, dumb MMA noobs, lol."

mooseyfate: You read about 1,000 layers too deep into my post.

Fixed a typo.

Mike_LowELL: mooseyfate: You read about 1,000 layers too deep into my post.

Fixed a typo.

I read 1,0004 layers too deep into his post!

/ARMBAR!

Gunny Highway: Jim from Saint Paul: Gunny Highway: lordharliquin: ItsMyNameYouCantHaveIt: Gunny Highway: mooseyfate: rocky_howard: mooseyfate: Nothing more fake than seeing someone beaten into a coma.

Nothing more fake than someone dying in the ring.

Beat THAT, UFC!!

It takes Hart to die in the ring.

Ouch. That was one of the saddest of my childhood. RIP Blazer.

Don't be Blue

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Drink your milk!!

Enough is enough and it is time for a change

Screw you for ignoring MY continuation of the bit.

If you guys don't start showing some respect for Owen I will kick your leg out of your leg.

/so SELFISH