Aww, Scientology is more like a regular church every day.

I missed the part in tfa where she did Dallas

GOP convention?

Let me guess: Catholic high school?

Hint to Scientology: In the 1970s the Mormons realized it wasn't such a great idea to call black people inferior in official scriptures. I would suggest you find a way to erase L Ron's musings on homosexuality as well.

She tried to join the Alpha Betas?

Confabulat: Hint to Scientology: In the 1970s the Mormons realized it wasn't such a great idea to call black people inferior in official scriptures. I would suggest you find a way to erase L Ron's musings on homosexuality as well.

Hint to everyone else: Buy your copies now, package them up and mail them to yourself. Store the box away to be pulled out later when it's useful.

/haha now you buyed the book

Scientology really is a lot like 4chan.

They're both just full of nothing but trolls trolling trolls.

This is why we can't have nice things lesbians...

I can't believe that apparently intelligent people allow this form of abuse to themselves.

I'm Christian, but if a minister, pastor, priest or even the Pope himself demanded that I do the things this David Miscavige demands of his followers, they'd get a resounding 'F**K NO!'

I may Believe but I'm not stupid and I'm well aware how easily religion can be corrupted for the desires of the leader and I will leave a church if I don't agree.

(Which is probably why I no loner go to any set church. I got tired of the BS.)

Threats? Physical abuse? Assault? Discrimination? Violation of Civil Rights? Old style torture (cultists used to use a restricted, low protein diet on their followers to break down their resistance. Lack of adequate protein affects the brain, making them more susceptible to suggestions. Rice was usually commonly used because of it's low nutrients and basically 0 protein.)

With all of the easily carried and hidden spy technology out there today, if anyone of those folks managed to get a recording of the abuse, they could wreck the psychotic leader in court.

Rik01: I'm Christian, but if a minister, pastor, priest or even the Pope himself demanded that I do the things this David Miscavige demands of his followers, they'd get a resounding 'F**K NO!'

This just in, different religions are different.

In Buddhism, you can't eat meat or drink booze. In Catholicism you MUST at least have a tipple every week. In Wicca, you get loaded pretty much after each ceremony.

Scientology is crazy, but it's LESS crazy than Alister Crowley's stuff, which was actually completely open to homosexuality. He had his people ritually CUT themselves when they made mistakes in will building exercises.

"Debbie [Cook] was there when DM [Miscavige] announced that Tom Cruise would come the next day to 'punch you guys out' if the one hundred [prisoners in The Hole] failed to get a confession" from the two male executives that they were having a relationship.

Wouldn't that cause a lot more giggling? Really? Tom Cruise?

JackalRabbit: like Tom Cruise could actually punch anyone out in real life. what a comedian this guy is

He'll just get a key grip to do it.

ladyfortuna: Now, I'm not really familiar with Hubbard's writings (as they were not included in my dad's basement treasure trove of Sci-Fi) but I have to wonder if he made the whole Scientology thing up as a massive Troll attempt on future generations...

He made it up as part of a bet, from what I understand.

But, the troll argument is equally valid. Like I said earlier, them and 4chan are just trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls.

0Icky0: doglover: In Buddhism, you can't eat meat or drink booze.

Say wut?

If you are a monk, you need to focus. Alcohol can ruin that focus for DAYS.

Meat also disturbs your internal chemistry, but mostly it's because chickens, cows, etc are also living creatures.They're lower in process of enlightenment, but they are still living creatures and a Bodhisattva would never harm one. Since Buddhism is the quest to become a Bodhisattva and ultimately a Buddha yourself, you can't eat meat and be a monk. It just doesn't work.


JackalRabbit: doglover: Scientology is crazy, but it's LESS crazy than Alister Crowley's stuff, which was actually completely open to homosexuality. He had his people ritually CUT themselves when they made mistakes in will building exercises immersed in his uniform of imagery.

No, it was will building. Kind of like people who take a vow of silence. They would be encouraged to not use a common word, like "I" or "an" for a week. Every slip of the tongue meant snip snip. So yeah, that builds will and an awareness of your actions. I bet the army uses similar initially useless seeming exercises with strict punishments to get their recruits in shape to be trusted with lethal weapons without killing one another by accident.

ladyfortuna: Now, I'm not really familiar with Hubbard's writings (as they were not included in my dad's basement treasure trove of Sci-Fi) but I have to wonder if he made the whole Scientology thing up as a massive Troll attempt on future generations...

Hubbard was a troll who believed his own trolling while knowing he was a troll anyway.

ladyfortuna: Now, I'm not really familiar with Hubbard's writings (as they were not included in my dad's basement treasure trove of Sci-Fi) but I have to wonder if he made the whole Scientology thing up as a massive Troll attempt on future generations...

You start a cult and suddenly you're rolling in wet pussy and big money. I don't care WHAT that cult is. You could start the Drunken Brotherhood of the 101st Street Irish Pub and your stated goal could be to "Worship the great god Guinness and his his friend the chicken wing cook." and as long as you fill a void in people's lives, they'll stay with you. Just because it's ridiculous or known to be invented doesn't mean you still can't attract and keep followers. You fill a hole in their lives and they'll let you fill other holes, if you catch my drift.

Ron may well have started it on a dare, but it's good to be king, so of COURSE he kept expanding. You would too if suddenly everything you ever wanted was being brought to your fingertips and all you had to do to keep the party going was expand your organization.

JackalRabbit: doglover: I bet the army uses similar initially useless seeming exercises with strict punishments to get their recruits in shape to be trusted with lethal weapons without killing one another by accident.

nope. just push ups, sit ups, and pull ups. Can tell you aren't ex-military. Pretty much 50% of the people that make it through basic could still easily kill one another with their deadly weapons.

/there are all types of deadly weapons

I hear the military punishes recruits by feeding them the omelet MREs that cause deadly gas attacks.

JackalRabbit: Pretty much 50% of the people that make it through basic could still easily kill one another with their deadly weapons.

Well thanks for that vote of confidence in our armed forces. I guess it's a good thing there's a few mountains between me and Yokosuka base. At least 50% are safe, too. That's kinda nice.

0Icky0: Well Monks, yeah.
But that's not all Buddhists.

Kinda. It's more like all the Buddhists that matter. (and yes they ARE not all perfect. Empress Wu springs to mind.)

Religion is lot like sports. You can follow the team, wear the colors, and go to all the games. But at the end of the day, you're either on the team or you're not. Sitting in stands watching the game doesn't make you player. Going to the temple and hitting the bell doesn't make you a Buddhist. Kneeling on a mat doesn't put you in Muhamed's good graces.

You gotta work at it.