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2012-01-04 04:45:56 PM  
Some favorites of mine.

dtdstudios.com

dtdstudios.com

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dtdstudios.com
 
2012-01-04 04:48:24 PM  
Also, Roku rocks. Had their players for years now.

They even replaced the first one (over a year after I bought it) because the wireless card had died. No questions, no hassles. They sent me a new one, I sent the old one back.
 
2012-01-04 04:56:08 PM  
"A stick is a better deal for consumers than a box"

comicadze.com
 
2012-01-04 05:07:08 PM  
I find it amusing that they had to put in penis detection software. Screw them, anyway. Go Omegle!

Ed Finnerty: Some favorites of mine.

[dtdstudios.com image 640x649]

[dtdstudios.com image 640x576]

[dtdstudios.com image 640x418]

[dtdstudios.com image 640x480]


My favorite:

s-ec-sm.buzzfeed.com
 
2012-01-04 05:19:52 PM  

ArkAngel: My favorite:

[s-ec-sm.buzzfeed.com image 500x386]


Right-click > Save As
 
2012-01-04 05:34:58 PM  
Anyone else read that as "Steaming Stick"?
 
2012-01-04 05:38:05 PM  
I wonder what would happen if you plugged the stick into the USB port on a Roku box.

Probably nothing since it sounds like it needs to be plugged into HDMI too.
 
2012-01-04 05:38:06 PM  
Haha, suck it cable providers.
 
2012-01-04 05:43:54 PM  

Chevello: I wonder what would happen if you plugged the stick into the USB port on a Roku box.

Probably nothing since it sounds like it needs to be plugged into HDMI too.


it looks like an HDMI plug, but the TV needs to support MHL protocol.
 
2012-01-04 05:45:54 PM  
I'll keep my box thank you.
It would be great for mom and dad.
If they were alive.
 
2012-01-04 05:49:43 PM  
FTA

Best Buy has signed on to sell the device exclusively with its home brand of Insignia TVs.

Well, it sounded pretty cool until I read that part.
 
2012-01-04 05:56:40 PM  
I'm with Keyser_Soze: now for the bad news:

Best Buy has signed on to sell the device exclusively with its home brand of Insignia TVs.

Look for a black market on Roku sticks on eBay. Or maybe Woot will save us with some refurbs.
 
2012-01-04 05:58:06 PM  

Chevello: I wonder what would happen if you plugged the stick into the USB port on a Roku box.

Probably nothing since it sounds like it needs to be plugged into HDMI too.


Only one (probably HDMI). I got confused for a bit too when they said USB-like. They just meant it was a stick with a plug; MHL ports have power to run peripherals.

That's the thing that sort of weird about MHL:

Other than the connectors being used, no USB nor HDMI technology is being used. It is exclusively MHL signalling through the connectors and over the cable. Other proprietary and custom connections are also allowed. (wiki)

Honestly, it sounds like a standardization nightmare waiting to happen.
 
2012-01-04 06:31:26 PM  
Standardization, yet another new TV, only available at BB, I'll keep my Roku 1 and my XD thanks.
 
2012-01-04 06:32:33 PM  
I can nderstand the benefits of allowing the micro-USB ports that already exist on small mobile devices like smartphones to be used for MHL communications.

I don't see how inventing Yet Another Special Port That Looks Like HDMI But Won't Work With Everything That Has An HDMI Plug on large, immobile devices like HDTVs is any better than having a proprietary "MHL port", or a USB Type A port or whatever. And I see a lot of ways that it's worse.
 
2012-01-04 06:33:18 PM  

Keyser_Soze_Death: FTA

Best Buy has signed on to sell the device exclusively with its home brand of Insignia TVs.

Well, it sounded pretty cool until I read that part.


Exactly what I was thinking.
 
2012-01-04 06:54:45 PM  

eaglepuss: Keyser_Soze_Death: FTA

Best Buy has signed on to sell the device exclusively with its home brand of Insignia TVs.

Well, it sounded pretty cool until I read that part.

Exactly what I was thinking.


So you're not interested in the Monster Ethernet Cable plated with real unicorn skin?
 
2012-01-04 07:18:32 PM  

Chevello: Standardization, yet another new TV, only available at BB, I'll keep my Roku 1 and my XD thanks.


Yeah, this sounded awesome until the connector. fark your shiat, good sirs. fark you and I hope you fail.
 
2012-01-04 08:14:18 PM  

Chevello: I wonder what would happen if you plugged the stick into the USB port on a Roku box.


img268.imageshack.us
 
2012-01-04 09:00:47 PM  
Roku! Stop farking with the Amazon Instant Video menus every few months!

Some shows can't be found now, and movies show up several times in the same lists. Farking ignorant.
 
2012-01-04 09:07:44 PM  

eaglepuss: Keyser_Soze_Death: FTA

Best Buy has signed on to sell the device exclusively with its home brand of Insignia TVs.

Well, it sounded pretty cool until I read that part.

Exactly what I was thinking.


Ditto.

I just bought a Roku box (literally 2 days ago) and I like it so far. I wonder how long until Amazon buys it.
 
2012-01-04 09:26:44 PM  

poot_rootbeer: I can nderstand the benefits of allowing the micro-USB ports that already exist on small mobile devices like smartphones to be used for MHL communications.

I don't see how inventing Yet Another Special Port That Looks Like HDMI But Won't Work With Everything That Has An HDMI Plug on large, immobile devices like HDTVs is any better than having a proprietary "MHL port", or a USB Type A port or whatever. And I see a lot of ways that it's worse.


I think the key is in "Other proprietary and custom connections are also allowed." My guess is they'll do auto-negotiation of some sort and HDMI will work with all HDMI connectors, regardless of MHL, but MHL devices will only work with MHL/HDMI ports.

Or you might start seeing a class of products that are MHL or HDMI + a power brick, but I'd rather they just used their own port. Or better yet, just used farking USB.

Oh, looks like I'm right, there's already some chips out there:
The SiI1292 enables an existing HDMI input to upgrade to a low-power, auto-sensing MHL/HDMI input solution, which facilitates HD audio and video connectivity between MHL-enabled mobile devices and HDTVs, PC monitors, projectors and MFMs.
 
2012-01-04 09:42:40 PM  
Chevello,Standardization, yet another new TV, only available at BB, I'll keep my Roku 1 and my XD thanks.

Was your roku XD a bit wonky about what wifi channels it will and won't receive, key length?
 
2012-01-04 09:49:37 PM  

solokumba: I'll keep my box thank you.
It would be great for mom and dad.
If they were alive.


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-01-04 09:49:50 PM  
Can anybody tell me what the point of ROKU is when 99% of the stuff you can do with any old DVD player with streaming? I mean guess you can save like 20 bucks or something and just get roku if all you really need is netflix.

I recently got my mom a Roku because she has netflix but doesn't use the streaming feature at all. I played around with a little bit to set up before i gave it to her and I was shocked out how little there was! I thought it was something with a multitude of channels and you could hook it up to your computer and stuff, but other than the standard netflix/hulu/amazon most of what is on there is total garbage and would probably keep you entertained for no more than one sittting.

They don't even have youtube! wtf? I had that on my dvd player i got like 2 years ago. I think there are few more on my dvd player that aren't on roku.
 
2012-01-04 10:10:48 PM  

Jamdug!: eaglepuss: Keyser_Soze_Death: FTA

Best Buy has signed on to sell the device exclusively with its home brand of Insignia TVs.

Well, it sounded pretty cool until I read that part.

Exactly what I was thinking.

Ditto.

I just bought a Roku box (literally 2 days ago) and I like it so far. I wonder how long until Amazon buys it.


I bought a Roku XDS about a year ago, and it's been great. I just upgraded to a Roku 2 XD when I found it on sale for $59.99, and that has also been very good. The form factor is smaller, and the buffering is faster. It doesn't have dual-band wireless like the XDS did; it's 2.4 GHz only.
 
2012-01-04 10:13:16 PM  

solokumba: I'll keep my box thank you.
It would be great for mom and dad.
If they were alive.


Oh Haiku.
I hate you.
You are too hard.
To do.
Splat.
 
2012-01-04 10:21:34 PM  
ChuDoggCan anybody tell me what the point of ROKU is when 99% of the stuff you can do with any old DVD player with streaming? I mean guess you can save like 20 bucks or something and just get roku if all you really need is netflix.
I recently got my mom a Roku because she has netflix but doesn't use the streaming feature at all. I played around with a little bit to set up before i gave it to her and I was shocked out how little there was! I thought it was something with a multitude of channels and you could hook it up to your computer and stuff, but other than the standard netflix/hulu/amazon most of what is on there is total garbage and would probably keep you entertained for no more than one sittting.
They don't even have youtube! wtf? I had that on my dvd player i got like 2 years ago. I think there are few more on my dvd player that aren't on roku.


Hell of a question there.

Before I watched netflix on a Wii, with all of it's low pixels, and it worked.

I heard also about Roku, and after getting one, I would buy one again. Although the Roku2's may have perfected a few bugs in the first series of them.

They have streaming news including hard to find stuff like Al Jazeera, music can be streamed, some NPR at the tip of my fingers on my TV, and other little extras that make it worth while vs just streaming through a game console or a computer.

Why is it any better than any other streaming video console. You got me?
 
2012-01-04 10:23:16 PM  
I'm sure this will eventually make sense, but I actually own a MHL enabled Samsung UN55D8000, and it already has Netflix and the rest of those streaming features built in, so I think they'll be off to a slow start unless a bunch of MHL enabled TVs get released post-CES.
 
2012-01-04 10:23:26 PM  

ChuDogg: Can anybody tell me what the point of ROKU is when 99% of the stuff you can do with any old DVD player with streaming? I mean guess you can save like 20 bucks or something and just get roku if all you really need is netflix.

I recently got my mom a Roku because she has netflix but doesn't use the streaming feature at all. I played around with a little bit to set up before i gave it to her and I was shocked out how little there was! I thought it was something with a multitude of channels and you could hook it up to your computer and stuff, but other than the standard netflix/hulu/amazon most of what is on there is total garbage and would probably keep you entertained for no more than one sittting.

They don't even have youtube! wtf? I had that on my dvd player i got like 2 years ago. I think there are few more on my dvd player that aren't on roku.


I use mine for Netflix, Hulu Plus, and Amazon VoD.

Netflix and Hulu Plus cost me less than $20/month, total. All of the TV shows that I care about are on Hulu, Netflix has a decent movie selection and a lot of older seasons of TV shows, and Amazon VoD gets new releases pretty much as soon as they hit the stores.

I used to get less than that from my cable company for $150/month. And since I have no interest in watching cat videos on my big screen, the lack of YouTube doesn't bother me.

Yes, a lot of the things available on Roku are also available in Internet-enabled TVs and DVD/Blu-Ray players, and that will eventually cut into Roku's market. One advantage that Roku has over those is its portability; I could see bringing the Roku on vacation with me, but my TV would probably stay home.
 
2012-01-04 10:30:19 PM  
"A stick is a better deal for consumers than a box," says James McQuivey, an analyst at Forrester Research. "It's less intimidating, and it's portable. You can take it with you on vacation, plug it into a hotel TV. People will like the portability."

It's pretty pathetic if you're on vacation and spend so much time in front of the TV that you need to bring your Roku with you.
 
2012-01-04 10:48:28 PM  
My Roku is currently in mid-shipment to me from Amazon, so I'm glad to read that it seems to be liked by Farkers.
 
2012-01-04 10:51:07 PM  

ChuDogg: Can anybody tell me what the point of ROKU is when 99% of the stuff you can do with any old DVD player with streaming? I mean guess you can save like 20 bucks or something and just get roku if all you really need is netflix.

I recently got my mom a Roku because she has netflix but doesn't use the streaming feature at all. I played around with a little bit to set up before i gave it to her and I was shocked out how little there was! I thought it was something with a multitude of channels and you could hook it up to your computer and stuff, but other than the standard netflix/hulu/amazon most of what is on there is total garbage and would probably keep you entertained for no more than one sittting.

They don't even have youtube! wtf? I had that on my dvd player i got like 2 years ago. I think there are few more on my dvd player that aren't on roku.


There are two different issues here:

1) Streaming devices. You're right, an increasing number of Blu-ray players and gaming consoles offer access to streaming content. Why get Roku? Not all channels are available on non-Roku devices and/or it takes longer for channels to be made available. Also, the interface with some of the devices is not as good as Roku's.

2) Content. It's limited, you're right. But if you've dumped cable TV like me, a lot of shows can be purchased the day after they air -- and once you've bought them, you have them in your cloud library forever. I also predict that it's only a matter of time until HBO makes HBO GO available for purchase to non-HBO subscribers (I mean, why else spend so much effort to develop a kick ass Roku channel that you then only give away to subscribers for free).
 
2012-01-04 10:58:11 PM  

thornhill: "A stick is a better deal for consumers than a box," says James McQuivey, an analyst at Forrester Research. "It's less intimidating, and it's portable. You can take it with you on vacation, plug it into a hotel TV. People will like the portability."

It's pretty pathetic if you're on vacation and spend so much time in front of the TV that you need to bring your Roku with you.


It's not really about how much time you spend in front of the TV, its about having more control over what you watch for the time that you do spend. Most hotels offer basic cable, HBO, and some PPV movies. I wouldn't have any problem bringing a portable device that gives me more choices, and I wouldn't feel an overwhelming urge to stay glued to the TV just because I have the device.
 
2012-01-04 11:02:15 PM  

WorldCitizen: My Roku is currently in mid-shipment to me from Amazon, so I'm glad to read that it seems to be liked by Farkers.


I think you'll enjoy it.

I bought mine back in the spring after dumping cable. Was able to keep up with a number of shows that were available the next day at the Amazon video store. The 720p was about the same quality as cable (not quite as sharp as HD on cable, but less artifacting with fast panning shots). Surround sound is good.
 
2012-01-04 11:20:40 PM  

Cybernetic: thornhill: "A stick is a better deal for consumers than a box," says James McQuivey, an analyst at Forrester Research. "It's less intimidating, and it's portable. You can take it with you on vacation, plug it into a hotel TV. People will like the portability."

It's pretty pathetic if you're on vacation and spend so much time in front of the TV that you need to bring your Roku with you.

It's not really about how much time you spend in front of the TV, its about having more control over what you watch for the time that you do spend. Most hotels offer basic cable, HBO, and some PPV movies. I wouldn't have any problem bringing a portable device that gives me more choices, and I wouldn't feel an overwhelming urge to stay glued to the TV just because I have the device.


Alternatively business trips that last a few days/weeks would be more bearable with something worth watching while in your hotel room.
 
2012-01-04 11:27:52 PM  
Cybernetic,It's not really about how much time you spend in front of the TV, its about having more control over what you watch for the time that you do spend. Most hotels offer basic cable, HBO, and some PPV movies. I wouldn't have any problem bringing a portable device that gives me more choices, and I wouldn't feel an overwhelming urge to stay glued to the TV just because I have the device.

That is part of the reason why I dumped cable and went with netflix streaming.
The limited time used to watch TV is spent watching stuff I want to watch, not whatever happens to be on, with nearly 1/3 of the time spent on commercials.

/Ever notice when watching cable, you just sat there watching show after show and didn't get anything out of it?
 
2012-01-04 11:34:31 PM  
I don't understand this Roku stick. It plugs into your teevee, but you need a teevee that supports some newish protocol for it to work. But wouldn't a new teevee already come with the usual assortment of Internet apps (Netflix, Youtube, etc) that the stick would provide? Why would I buy this stick?
 
2012-01-05 01:01:39 AM  

Quantumbunny: Cybernetic: thornhill: "A stick is a better deal for consumers than a box," says James McQuivey, an analyst at Forrester Research. "It's less intimidating, and it's portable. You can take it with you on vacation, plug it into a hotel TV. People will like the portability."

It's pretty pathetic if you're on vacation and spend so much time in front of the TV that you need to bring your Roku with you.

It's not really about how much time you spend in front of the TV, its about having more control over what you watch for the time that you do spend. Most hotels offer basic cable, HBO, and some PPV movies. I wouldn't have any problem bringing a portable device that gives me more choices, and I wouldn't feel an overwhelming urge to stay glued to the TV just because I have the device.

Alternatively business trips that last a few days/weeks would be more bearable with something worth watching while in your hotel room.


I travel once a month for work. Never turn on the TV. I guess different strokes for different folks, but I try to avoid as much time in the hotel room as possible.
 
2012-01-05 04:22:22 AM  
Sounds cool, except for cheap-ass-TVs-at-BestBuy part.

Got a Roku for Xmas. It's completely fan-farking-tastic.
 
2012-01-05 07:15:50 AM  

WorldCitizen: My Roku is currently in mid-shipment to me from Amazon, so I'm glad to read that it seems to be liked by Farkers.


Which one did you get? I'd be interested to know what you think of it.
 
2012-01-05 07:22:35 AM  

ProfessorOhki: Chevello: I wonder what would happen if you plugged the stick into the USB port on a Roku box.

Probably nothing since it sounds like it needs to be plugged into HDMI too.

Only one (probably HDMI). I got confused for a bit too when they said USB-like. They just meant it was a stick with a plug; MHL ports have power to run peripherals.

That's the thing that sort of weird about MHL:

Other than the connectors being used, no USB nor HDMI technology is being used. It is exclusively MHL signalling through the connectors and over the cable. Other proprietary and custom connections are also allowed. (wiki)

Honestly, it sounds like a standardization nightmare waiting to happen.


Yeah these guys think they can muscle their way around with their own standardization, but they have no leverage at all. So the consumer is left with 14 goddamn devices that don't connect to one another unless you buy some POS connector sold at Best Buy. And that, my friends, is how Best Buy continues to exist.
 
2012-01-05 07:44:10 AM  
Oh real quick - I don't know if it's been mentioned but you get free Amazon Streaming with Amazon Prime (which is about $70/year). I got Prime for the free ground shipping and found out after the fact that I get free streaming, which is why I bought the Roku box.

/Not a paid endorsement...
 
2012-01-05 09:21:10 AM  

Jamdug!: Oh real quick - I don't know if it's been mentioned but you get free Amazon Streaming with Amazon Prime (which is about $70/year). I got Prime for the free ground shipping and found out after the fact that I get free streaming, which is why I bought the Roku box.

/Not a paid endorsement...


Technically something that costs $70 isn't free, but Prime did start out as a way to pre-pay all of your shipping for a year ahead of time for a single, flat fee. The streaming video service and now the Kindle lending library are stretching those $70 even further than before.
 
2012-01-05 09:22:54 AM  
I love my Roku. I'm on my second one, the first was retired to the bedroom TV.

The only complaint I have is that the second generation model removed the digital audio output. Now everything has to go through HDMI, and I'm out of ports.

You can get YouTube and other internet streaming channels, beyond the ones available on the Roku site. Just google Roku private channels and you'll find a bunch of them.

I am ready to ditch cable TV altogether, except my SO is so addicted to the most garbagy of garbage TV that it's not even available on Roku. Seriously.
 
2012-01-05 10:20:32 AM  
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2012-01-05 02:17:18 PM  
Love my Roku. Just got one for my non-tech savvy parents. Even they have no problem using it.


/Got rid of satellite a while ago
 
2012-01-05 02:58:03 PM  

Chevello: I wonder what would happen if you plugged the stick into the USB port on a Roku box.

would be the Roku equivalent of dividing by zero.
 
2012-01-05 03:18:50 PM  
I would kill for youtube to be on my roku.
 
2012-01-05 05:59:47 PM  

PirateKing: I love my Roku. I'm on my second one, the first was retired to the bedroom TV.

The only complaint I have is that the second generation model removed the digital audio output. Now everything has to go through HDMI, and I'm out of ports.

You can get YouTube and other internet streaming channels, beyond the ones available on the Roku site. Just google Roku private channels and you'll find a bunch of them.

I am ready to ditch cable TV altogether, except my SO is so addicted to the most garbagy of garbage TV that it's not even available on Roku. Seriously.


Could you get an HDMI splitter or is that not possible?
 
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