Eventually we'll have to show ID to breathe in this country.

serpent_sky: Eventually we'll have to show ID to breathe in this country.

Your papers, please

Citrus fruits contain acids. Why is ID not required to by oranges?

Note: there is no acid in drain cleaner.

Marcus Aurelius: Note: there is no acid in drain cleaner.

Yeah, I came in for this.

/F*CK SCIENCE!

cgraves67: Nooooo. Now what am I going to splash on the faces of my sinful female relatives?

Axe body spray.

First they came for the ephedrine, and I said nothing because I eat my boogers...

jaylectricity: First they came for the ephedrine, and I said nothing because I eat my boogers...

I'd like to see some numbers on whether making us sign in blood for cold medicine has had any effect on meth production/usage.

MaudlinMutantMollusk: serpent_sky: Eventually we'll have to show ID to breathe in this country.

Your papers, please

No ticket

Uchiha_Cycliste: Diogenes: jaylectricity: First they came for the ephedrine, and I said nothing because I eat my boogers...

I'd like to see some numbers on whether making us sign in blood for cold medicine has had any effect on meth production/usage.

And if I told you it's gone up?

Wouldn't surprise me. I can't imagine meth cookers getting their supply by the box off the shelf.

A Fark Handle: Diogenes: jaylectricity: First they came for the ephedrine, and I said nothing because I eat my boogers...

I'd like to see some numbers on whether making us sign in blood for cold medicine has had any effect on meth production/usage.

well going to prescription only has helped. though in 2010, there was a slight bump in meth-deaths in oregon. property crime is also down.

Oregon had 467 meth-lab incidents in 2004, the year before it instituted a prescription-only law for pseudoephedrine. In 2009, the state recorded 12 meth-lab incidents, according to U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration records. Mississippi adopted similar restrictions last July. Since then, there has been a nearly 70 percent reduction in meth-related cases, said Marshall Fisher, head of the Mississippi Bureau of Narcotics. (new window)

Maybe these states are simply importing more meth from Mexico.

give me doughnuts: Citrus fruits contain acids. Why is ID not required to by oranges?

We used to take the orange peels and pinch them to squirt the acid in each others' faces when we were kids. I don't recall being arrested or ID'd when we'd pick them from the tree.

I am tired of these stupid ass laws. Quit assuming (government) we are afraid of every damn thing out there.

A Fark Handle: Diogenes: jaylectricity: First they came for the ephedrine, and I said nothing because I eat my boogers...

I'd like to see some numbers on whether making us sign in blood for cold medicine has had any effect on meth production/usage.

well going to prescription only has helped. though in 2010, there was a slight bump in meth-deaths in oregon. property crime is also down.

Oregon had 467 meth-lab incidents in 2004, the year before it instituted a prescription-only law for pseudoephedrine. In 2009, the state recorded 12 meth-lab incidents, according to U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration records. Mississippi adopted similar restrictions last July. Since then, there has been a nearly 70 percent reduction in meth-related cases, said Marshall Fisher, head of the Mississippi Bureau of Narcotics. (new window)

Gotta say I'm surprised it was that dramatic. Buying it over the counter/shoplifting seems like an inefficient way to get your supply. I would expect breakins, setting up fronts to buy in bulk, etc. would be more effective. And while I'm glad it seems to be working, I still have a problem with punishing the innocent for the deeds of the guilty.

To add to my last comment- 112 years ago, the country was going apeshiat over some actress in a play who was carried up stairs by a male actor- suggesting they were going to go to his bedroom, his bed and have sex. Apeshiat over the idea of what would happen at the end of the play when the curtain went down. Apeshiat over the IDEA.

So ... we've not progressed much, have we?

Diogenes: Uchiha_Cycliste: Diogenes: jaylectricity: First they came for the ephedrine, and I said nothing because I eat my boogers...

I'd like to see some numbers on whether making us sign in blood for cold medicine has had any effect on meth production/usage.

And if I told you it's gone up?

Wouldn't surprise me. I can't imagine meth cookers getting their supply by the box off the shelf.

My thought, exactly. It would be cost prohibitive on any sort of scale, seeing how Ny-Quil is $5.99 or so a bottle.

And yet Dihydrogen Monoxide is still available over the counter of every grocery and convenience store.

TEH CHILDREN CAN GET ACCESS TO IT! TEH CHIIIILLLLDDDDRRRREEEENNNN!!!!!

You can buy drain cleaner over the internet. There's a record if they know where to look.

Diogenes

I've seen stats like A Fark Handle posted. The article I read said standard issue meth labs, which accounted for one third of U.S. meth, were down two thirds as a result of the pseudoephedrine rules. I'm inclined to dismiss that as insignificant overall because other sources can make up the difference, or a 20% cut isn't that big a deal anyway.

So, at some point, it'll be easier to get a gun than it will be to get Draino.

This one is even better:

Asda clamps down on killer teaspoons
ID requirement causes a bit of a stir



"because someone had murdered someone with a teaspoon, and therefore ID was now required".

Diogenes: Uchiha_Cycliste: Diogenes: jaylectricity: First they came for the ephedrine, and I said nothing because I eat my boogers...

I'd like to see some numbers on whether making us sign in blood for cold medicine has had any effect on meth production/usage.

And if I told you it's gone up?

Wouldn't surprise me. I can't imagine meth cookers getting their supply by the box off the shelf.

The bans on decongestants actually led to increased violence and lower prices. Before the bans, meth was largely cooked up by your small time neighborhood meth producer, usually in the home they lived in or an outbuilding. By banning/restricting the sale of the only effective OTC decongestant, they put those producers out of business.

In stepped the Mexican Mafia, who produces it in bulk in Mexico and then distributes it across America via organized crime. Now its cheaper due to the bulk production, and you've got more crime as the funds now go to the violent mafia, instead of your local white trash.

The good side, is there's a lot less meth lab fires for firefighters to deal with.

A Fark Handle: what about the ones that contain lye?

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are those still cool? they're totally not an acid.

/of course probably still good for honor attacks.

I came here to comment on the fact that drain cleaners are ANTI-ACID.
they are so far from being acid, that they explode when you mix them with acid.

try this at home
mix drano and vinegar in a small bowel in your sink. hold your face over it.

/FFS - really? do I need a DONT DO THIS AT HOME WARNING? sarcasm isnt good enough??? sigh

ShawnDoc: The bans on decongestants actually led to increased violence and lower prices. Before the bans, meth was largely cooked up by your small time neighborhood meth producer, usually in the home they lived in or an outbuilding. By banning/restricting the sale of the only effective OTC decongestant, they put those producers out of business.

In stepped the Mexican Mafia, who produces it in bulk in Mexico and then distributes it across America via organized crime. Now its cheaper due to the bulk production, and you've got more crime as the funds now go to the violent mafia, instead of your local white trash.

The good side, is there's a lot less meth lab fires for firefighters to deal with.

meh
doesnt more meth fires = less retarded meth heads?
why do people want to stop darwin ??

/sigh

The stupid, it hurts.

As someone in the comments section said:
Hatchet, axe, ice pick, hammer, knife, machete, gasoline and bic lighter, screwdriver, bleach & ammonia, bow/crossbow, sword. Don't have to sign for any of those or show ID if you have cash.

penthesilea: "because someone had murdered someone with a teaspoon, and therefore ID was now required".

I honestly would like to know how someone murdered someone with a teaspoon. I don't condone murder, but I'm almost impressed that someone pulled that off.

namatad: ry this at home
mix drano and vinegar in a small bowel in your sink. hold your face over it.

I'm not sure that's physically possible.