For all of you war-profiteers who think a little war might make you a lot of money and jump start our economy...

Iran is 4 times the size of Iraq. We sent 1.5 million US military personnel into Iraq over 9 years. On multiple 15 month combat tours with little time off between.

Don't listen to the idiots who claim war with Iran is our duty or a way to make a quick buck. We will end up breaking our military, probably in part by re-instituting the draft.

It is not the duty of the US military to fight war after war in the Middle East and its surroundings.

thomps: TheShavingofOccam123: For all of you war-profiteers who think a little war might make you a lot of money and jump start our economy...

Iran is 4 times the size of Iraq. We sent 1.5 million US military personnel into Iraq over 9 years. On multiple 15 month combat tours with little time off between.

Don't listen to the idiots who claim war with Iran is our duty or a way to make a quick buck. We will end up breaking our military, probably in part by re-instituting the draft.

It is not the duty of the US military to fight war after war in the Middle East and its surroundings.

iraq was different though - a collection of tribal groups who have hated eachother for millenia stitched together by the british and forced to live together as a country. of course invading them and upsetting the balance was going to cause chaos. iran though, those guys are clearly craving freedom from their despotic and tyrannical leadership and will surely greet us as liberators with flowers and oil and sweet persian poon.

Yes, greet us as liberators...that was the equation...

thomps: TheShavingofOccam123: Yes, greet us as liberators...that was the equation...

are you saying they won't? are you saying that it's worth just sitting on our hands while iran seeks weapons of mass destruction and actively develops nuclear capabilities? i'm sorry but i can't sit idly by and wait for a smoking gun that may very well come in the form of a mushroom cloud.

I'm not sending my neighbor's kids over there unless the war pays for itself...including a nice chunk of contractor quarterly dividends for my trust fund. No sir. To do otherwise would be un-American.

It would be the dumbest economic decision ever made at a time like this.

This situation can be easily solved if we just hand Dick Cheney over to the Iranians.

If Iran attacks our ships in the Gulf or Strait of Hormuz, we're going to war with Iran. Otherwise, no.

If Iran gets too close to getting the bomb, Israel will attack them way before we would be ballsy/crazy enough to do so.

And in no scenario will we be committing land troops unless it is to secure coastal oil supplies.

Although these predictions are just my opinion, you can take them all to the bank as irrefutably true.

No more war.

You'll break our military, and cause riots at home that'd make Vietnam look like a day in the park.

Iran would have to nuke Jerusalem to get the American people behind that war, and you'd have the world against them in that case.

There is a massive push to get the US involved in a war with Iran.

No western country will go in with the US this time. This will be a US only show, and it will be a mess. Russia will be pissed, China will be pissed, the US will have lost the last of its good will built up during WWII. You'll see a massive shift towards China as the world's good guy (which is stupid, I know), and you'll see Europe move towards bringing Russia into the fold (stupid, I know).

About the only western country who won't completely abandon you will be Canada, and that is because they want you to guy their tar oil, and help build a big pipeline to bring in more cash.

The prediction that China will eclipse the US in 2025 will be changed to 2017.

Debeo Summa Credo: If Iran attacks our ships in the Gulf or Strait of Hormuz, we're going to war with Iran. Otherwise, no.

considering almost 80% of people polled in 2003 thought the Iraq war was justified you have more faith than I do.

Felgraf: TheShavingofOccam123: I'm not sending my neighbor's kids over there unless the war pays for itself...including a nice chunk of contractor quarterly dividends for my trust fund. No sir. To do otherwise would be un-American.

I think you are missing the joke of thomp's posts.

That being they are, almost *verbatim*, using the phrases and words that were used to make the case for the war in Iraq.

"smoking gun that may very well come in the form of a mushroom cloud." was the one that clinched it for me. I distinctly remember that phrase in the leadup to the Iraq war.

But my posts were jokes too....to me, they were jokes, too...to me...jokes...

What is with Republicans wanting to spend money on other countries but not America?

What a terrifying article.

#8 makes my brain boil. My children are fascinated with science (as am I) and guess what? I'm still married and my family values seem to be pretty solid. Fanaticism = low IQ.

Headso: Debeo Summa Credo: If Iran attacks our ships in the Gulf or Strait of Hormuz, we're going to war with Iran. Otherwise, no.

considering almost 80% of people polled in 2003 thought the Iraq war was justified you have more faith than I do.

Hopefully a good portion of those 80% are smarter now, having seen what went on in Iraq. Also, Obama/Biden is not Bush/Cheney, no matter what the far left would have you believe.

thomps: TheShavingofOccam123: Yes, greet us as liberators...that was the equation...

are you saying they won't? are you saying that it's worth just sitting on our hands while iran seeks weapons of mass destruction and actively develops nuclear capabilities? i'm sorry but i can't sit idly by and wait for a smoking gun that may very well come in the form of a mushroom cloud.

I have no idea if you're trolling or not, but I was in college in 02-04. We met a guy from Iraq, who was ecstatic about the US invasion. He had personally had family members be captured and tortured by Saddam and his retards. He was an intelligent, reasonable guy, and he was just over the moon about the whole thing. Couldn't be happier.

It's funny this comes up, my wife and I were just discussing it the other day. I really think Iran will be a big problem. Maybe not in 2012, but in the next while, things will be tense, and there will most likely be a conflict.

Aside from that, strange that North Korea's not mentioned anywhere. I think ol' Un'ny is even loonier than his dad, and things are about to get a whole lot crazier.
I think some things are needed. and I think that North Korea needs to be marched on to shut down their concentration camps. Yes it could/would start a war, but I don't think anyone hesitated to march on Hitler because it was just escalate things. There are horrific atrocities being committed in that screwy country every second of the day. It really needs to be stopped.

#13 and 14 are the only two predictions I am willing to bet will happen. Cause that's well... Been happening pretty much every time (year) that there's been a prediction of such.

Cheating always happens at the Olympics. That's nothing new.

The end of the world was suppose to happen how many times last year. There was a doomsday in every month. So the same goes for this year too.

And the whole Science Vs Religion has been going on for centuries. Nothing new there either.

No 14 won't happen at least not on a large scale, no one makes any money.
No 9 see the movie "black sheep"

sure haven't: thomps: TheShavingofOccam123: Yes, greet us as liberators...that was the equation...

are you saying they won't? are you saying that it's worth just sitting on our hands while iran seeks weapons of mass destruction and actively develops nuclear capabilities? i'm sorry but i can't sit idly by and wait for a smoking gun that may very well come in the form of a mushroom cloud.

I have no idea if you're trolling or not, but I was in college in 02-04. We met a guy from Iraq, who was ecstatic about the US invasion. He had personally had family members be captured and tortured by Saddam and his retards. He was an intelligent, reasonable guy, and he was just over the moon about the whole thing. Couldn't be happier.

It's funny this comes up, my wife and I were just discussing it the other day. I really think Iran will be a big problem. Maybe not in 2012, but in the next while, things will be tense, and there will most likely be a conflict.

Aside from that, strange that North Korea's not mentioned anywhere. I think ol' Un'ny is even loonier than his dad, and things are about to get a whole lot crazier.
I think some things are needed. and I think that North Korea needs to be marched on to shut down their concentration camps. Yes it could/would start a war, but I don't think anyone hesitated to march on Hitler because it was just escalate things. There are horrific atrocities being committed in that screwy country every second of the day. It really needs to be stopped.

But there is no incentive to help them. They have no oil or natural resources to speak of.
That said, I agree that if any country is hankerin' for an invasion, it is North Korea.

Debeo Summa Credo: If Iran attacks our ships in the Gulf or Strait of Hormuz, we're going to war with Iran. Otherwise, no.

If Iran gets too close to getting the bomb, Israel will attack them way before we would be ballsy/crazy enough to do so.

And in no scenario will we be committing land troops unless it is to secure coastal oil supplies.

Although these predictions are just my opinion, you can take them all to the bank as irrefutably true.

meat0918: No more war.

You'll break our military, and cause riots at home that'd make Vietnam look like a day in the park.

Iran would have to nuke Jerusalem to get the American people behind that war, and you'd have the world against them in that case.

I hope you're both right. Please, please PLEASE, no war with Iran. Seriously, just NO. We're already nearly bankrupt.

Israel, back the hell off.

Hey, submitter!

Do you work for TruTV or how did you find out that inserting a ".all" into the URL turns their slideshows into a single page?
Because I can't find any link like "view all" or "print" (to name some of the usual suspects) for that.

TruTV has some pretty loose definitions of "conspiracy."

-War with Iran? That would be awful, but military intervention has been widely discussed.
-Olympic cheating? While that may fit the legal definition of conspiracy, it's hardly something worth getting worked up over. It happens every time.
-The internet getting censored? Again, something awful, but widely and publicly discussed. Was it a CONSPIRACY when they added speed limits?
-I might buy the human cloning thing. That's going to happen eventually. But fearless super soldiers? in -2012? They made a sheep 15 years ago that died prematurely, weak and sickly. If they made some sort of fearless goat next year, I'll start panicking.
-Discovering the Higgs Boson would hardly disprove religion. Those who are going to take issue with it are the same people who tried to sue CERN out of existence because it might create a black hole that would eat us.
-Finally, the world NOT coming to an end is a "conspiracy?" Just how easy is it to froth conspiracy-theorists into a rage? Are they disappointed at this? Surprised, even?

Next up on TruTV! I failed to take a clean dump this morning, ran out of toilet paper, so I took a shameful shower. Conspiracy?!

FlashHarry: iran: massive, modern, and disciplined military, including naval and air forces.

Oh please. The Iranian military is just a big ol' speed bump. A war would be a bad idea for all kinds of reasons, but the toughness of the Iranian Photoshop Brigade ain't one of them.

/ain't saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed, but...

So, Vote Ron Paul?

thomps: TheShavingofOccam123: Yes, greet us as liberators...that was the equation...

are you saying they won't? are you saying that it's worth just sitting on our hands while iran seeks weapons of mass destruction and actively develops nuclear capabilities? i'm sorry but i can't sit idly by and wait for a smoking gun that may very well come in the form of a mushroom cloud.

Yes, yes. Lead the way.....You first.

It's all a psy-op, man.

Debeo Summa Credo: If Iran attacks our ships in the Gulf or Strait of Hormuz, we're going to war with Iran. Otherwise, no.

If Iran gets too close to getting the bomb, Israel will attack them way before we would be ballsy/crazy enough to do so.

Why would Israel incur any risk when it can just get the US to do it for them? If Israel did anything to Iran it could cause a regional conflict which would be very risky for Israel. They certainly don't want that. If the US did it for them, though, the worst that would happen is that thousands upon thousands of Iranians would die.

And no one in Jerusalem, the State Department, or the Pentagon gives a shiat about that.

And in no scenario will we be committing land troops unless it is to secure coastal oil supplies.

Probably not, but that doesn't mean we won't inevitably be dropping fiery death upon Iranians from the skies.

Probably not, but that doesn't mean we won't inevitably be dropping fiery death upon Iranians from the skies.

Boeing has recently been asked to speed up production of the new bunker busters. I'm sure the timing is just coincidental.

thomps: iraq was different though - a collection of tribal groups who have hated eachother for millenia stitched together by the british and forced to live together as a country. of course invading them and upsetting the balance was going to cause chaos. iran though, those guys are clearly craving freedom from their despotic and tyrannical leadership and will surely greet us as liberators with flowers and oil and sweet persian poon.

You didn't have me convinced until the end. Mmmmm....sweet Persian poon....

/Fire up the cannons, boys! We gots wimmins to liberate!

If Obama is reelected, I blame to GOP for not coming up with an opponent that wasn't a whack-a-doodle.

war with iran is a bad bad bad idea.

that said, if i can get a 25-year-old persian woman out of the whole deal and some poor kids can do the fighting while i pretend to support them from the safety of my sofa, then i'm a maybe.

/iran could have been an oil rich, moderate, democratic ally, too bad we farked that up 60 years ago
//let's triple down on stupidity!!

- Jesus is revealed to have been a man born in the middle east and most likely looked like a terrorist of today

Okay, while we're kidding about the above possibilities,

Wait, he was born in the middle east, and since everyone in the middle east is a terrorist he must look like one.

Oh wait I get it, since Jesus didn't exist the significant thing there is the proof of his existence, not his appearance, ah, very good.

Rev. Skarekroe: If Obama starts a war with Iran I'll almost certainly start voting third party again.

Sorry, but Iran would be starting a war with Iran.

sweet persian poon.

mmmmm. yum. persian women are deliscously hot.

pics please.....someone?

With that entire sh*tstorm of of hellish evil and crazy on that list, #14 is just cruel. But I guess that was the point.



I'm gonna go cry in the corner now

If the U.S. goes to war with Iran the U.S. officially becomes nothing but a bad joke. We're almost there, but a war with Iran will make it official, undeniable.

JammerJim: FlashHarry: iran: massive, modern, and disciplined military, including naval and air forces.

Oh please. The Iranian military is just a big ol' speed bump. A war would be a bad idea for all kinds of reasons, but the toughness of the Iranian Photoshop Brigade ain't one of them.

/ain't saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed, but...

It depends on whether or not the Iranians would fight 'fairly' pitting their weaknesses against the US military's strength or if they might decide go all asymmetrical and unfairly attack the US at its weak points. It would be really embarrassing to learn that a defence budget to the combined budgets of the entire rest of the planet does not cut it when it comes to fighting anything but small impoverished nations without smart military leaders.