FTFA "The Archdiocese has reached out to the mother and children to provide spiritual care as well as funding to assist the children with college costs," said Gomez, adding that the family's identity was being withheld.

Soooo, all you have to do to get your kid's college paid for is fark a priest and have a kid?

brb

//jk

The Bishop!

Did they get the verb right? Did he father two children or just fondle them? Both maybe?

Catholic clergy having kids instead of raping them? I'm confused. I'm appalled. I'm outraged.

If only the "no kids for priests" policy applied to their sexual lives instead of their home lives.

It used to be a fairly common thing for Bishops, Cardinals, and even Popes to have children. The Princes of the Church were often selected from the lay Nobility, not for their religious fever, but rather by kings to get rid of a rival, or recieve a bribe. Alexander VI had a legitimate son who was a Cardinal. His daughter worked as his secretary.

up until at least the 17th C. and possibly into the 19th C. in many countries Catholic did not get married, but they usually had a house keeper, and the house keeper usually had kids who looked like the Priest. It is documentable into the 17th C of circuit priests (serving a number of churches in a rural area) of priests who have one of their sons follow them, sort of inheriting the flock.

of course now days with scandles blasting across the world in a matter of seconds, perhaps it is time for the old guard who run the Catholic church to retire in favor of people less than half their age who can bring the church out of the 11th C. (Pope Innocent forbids Catholic's to have sex) and into the 18th or 19th C.

Okay, so let's get this straight:

- If you molest little boys, the Vatican will just reassign you someplace else and work to cover up the misdeeds, at least until a scandal blows up and they are forced to take action.

- If you have sex with an adult woman (or adult man) the Pope wants you out immediately

Makes perfect sense.

Sadly I read this and thought "he didn't diddle little boys? terrific!"

/realize the two are not mutually exclusive

Sooo... Its ok to diddle kids, but not ok to be married or be gay? Weird priorities there, magic hat man.

I meant to mention that the Pope should have spanked the bishop.

Time for another Reformation

How could such a good cop turn into such a bad priest?

Child molesters and hypocrites.
Keep puttin money in their coffers, you papist bastiges.

JackieRabbit: Did they get the verb right? Did he father two children or just fondle them? Both maybe?

I think the pope needs to publish an encyclical on this subject. Within the church, to say that a member of the clergy "fathered a child," well that's just the polite euphemism.

See. That's how Episcopal Bishops are made. A quick course in English church history after Henry the 8th and, Bob's your uncle, you're a retread. Why throw out all that experience and learning, and he's got a family to feed now.

It wasn't uncommon in my dad and grandad's time for the rector or monsignor of a parish to have a 'housekeeper' or 'cleaning lady' who - ahem - did for him, for lack of a better term. It was an open secret, but in a way, they claimed it made him closer to his parishioners - he could understand a guy problem with a little more familiarity - he knew what problems at home could often mean. They didn't begrudge him the little peccadillo that his office gave him - so long as he kept the parish accounts straight. Touch the money, then the torches and pitchforks would come out - but a little something something after vespers... it just wasn't such a big deal to their generation.

BitwiseShift: See. That's how Episcopal Bishops are made. A quick course in English church history after Henry the 8th and, Bob's your uncle, you're a retread. Why throw out all that experience and learning, and he's got a family to feed now.

Oddly enough, RC is also poaching from CoE these days...

toraque: At least he's not spending his time with anyone else s children.

THIS

Le Geno Vert: It wasn't uncommon in my dad and grandad's time for the rector or monsignor of a parish to have a 'housekeeper' or 'cleaning lady' who - ahem - did for him, for lack of a better term. It was an open secret, but in a way, they claimed it made him closer to his parishioners - he could understand a guy problem with a little more familiarity - he knew what problems at home could often mean. They didn't begrudge him the little peccadillo that his office gave him - so long as he kept the parish accounts straight. Touch the money, then the torches and pitchforks would come out - but a little something something after vespers... it just wasn't such a big deal to their generation.

And its a shame that such priests are forced to stay in the closet less they face excuminication.

Le Geno Vert: BitwiseShift: See. That's how Episcopal Bishops are made. A quick course in English church history after Henry the 8th and, Bob's your uncle, you're a retread. Why throw out all that experience and learning, and he's got a family to feed now.

Oddly enough, RC is also poaching from CoE these days...

This has been happening with increasing frequency, so maybe the two churches should just do a formal exchange already-- Rome gets the über-traditionalist Anglo-Catholics and the CofE/ECUSA takes the progressive Catholics, etc.

I'm confused. He had two kids almost two decades ago, presumably from a long relationship if they're with the same woman, and today he decides to resign because he feels guilty about it? Weird.

Shenanigans called.

Lets go for the Cathlolic trifecta, Alex.

at least it was a heterosexual as opposed to boys

/keep in mind the priests that do diddle little boys are a small minority

boatbetty: FTFA "The Archdiocese has reached out to the mother and children to provide spiritual care as well as funding to assist the children with college costs," said Gomez, adding that the family's identity was being withheld.

Soooo, all you have to do to get your kid's college paid for is fark a priest and have a kid?

brb

//jk

Are you blind-a, so you cannot-a see?

/boomba boom boom

Priest at a local Catholic Church had kids and grand kids, everyone knew about it, and everyone was cool with it.

He worked for the government for over 20 years, was married and had kids. After his wife died, he retire from his gov job, entered the seminary and became a priest. Contrary to popular belief, you don't need to be a virgin to become a nun or priest. All you have to do is show that you are not married or divorced and take a vow of celibacy.

Meh. The priest who married my wife and I 28 years ago had children and grandchildren.

Turns out widowers with children can be ordained by the Catholic Church.

Fissile:
Yeah for similar anecdotes.

Pauline Christianity is fundamentally flawed in several ways. The "no kid and no wife, Father" bit is one of those ways.

Cerebral Knievel: Le Geno Vert: It wasn't uncommon in my dad and grandad's time for the rector or monsignor of a parish to have a 'housekeeper' or 'cleaning lady' who - ahem - did for him, for lack of a better term. It was an open secret, but in a way, they claimed it made him closer to his parishioners - he could understand a guy problem with a little more familiarity - he knew what problems at home could often mean. They didn't begrudge him the little peccadillo that his office gave him - so long as he kept the parish accounts straight. Touch the money, then the torches and pitchforks would come out - but a little something something after vespers... it just wasn't such a big deal to their generation.

And its a shame that such priests are forced to stay in the closet less they face excuminication.

?????
Made me laugh, at least. Hoping it was a purposefully funny butchering.

roman catholic church. Father 2 children? Bad. Molest 2 children? Moved and promoted.

xen0blue: /keep in mind the priests that do diddle little boys are a small minority

That's true, but the church has systematically protected all the ones that it's been able to by moving them to other areas to do it again.

It's not the pedo-priests that are the biggest issue there. It's the organized cover up by the church.

Le Geno Vert: It wasn't uncommon in my dad and grandad's time for the rector or monsignor of a parish to have a 'housekeeper' or 'cleaning lady' who - ahem - did for him, for lack of a better term. It was an open secret, but in a way, they claimed it made him closer to his parishioners - he could understand a guy problem with a little more familiarity - he knew what problems at home could often mean. They didn't begrudge him the little peccadillo that his office gave him - so long as he kept the parish accounts straight. Touch the money, then the torches and pitchforks would come out - but a little something something after vespers... it just wasn't such a big deal to their generation.

Also what a lot people don't know is that a married man can take Holy Orders in the RCC. But a single man cannot become a priest and then marry. Now a married priest is supposed to honor his vow of chastity, which puts him at odds with the vow he swore to God when he married. Yeah it's farked up. but the RCC has been farked up for centuries.

I visited a Trappist monastery years ago to listen to a lecture by one of the monks there, who was an historian for his order. He told of an incident back in the 16th century, when some tattle-tale sent a letter to Rome about the goings on at a monastery in France. It seems that there was a nunnery about two miles away and the nuns and the monks would get together for orgies on a regular basis. When the allegation was investigated, they found that dozens of aborted babies had been buried in the wood between the two facilities.

Old-sour-pickle-chips: Cerebral Knievel: Le Geno Vert: It wasn't uncommon in my dad and grandad's time for the rector or monsignor of a parish to have a 'housekeeper' or 'cleaning lady' who - ahem - did for him, for lack of a better term. It was an open secret, but in a way, they claimed it made him closer to his parishioners - he could understand a guy problem with a little more familiarity - he knew what problems at home could often mean. They didn't begrudge him the little peccadillo that his office gave him - so long as he kept the parish accounts straight. Touch the money, then the torches and pitchforks would come out - but a little something something after vespers... it just wasn't such a big deal to their generation.

And its a shame that such priests are forced to stay in the closet less they face excuminication.

?????
Made me laugh, at least. Hoping it was a purposefully funny butchering.

Well, it was meant to be topical to the nature of priests who have families need to remain on the down low, as the kids call it, in order to keep their jobs. And funny using the term "in the closet" as an ironic juxtaposition of the homosexual term for a gay person hiding their sexuality from the outside world. My mispelling of "excommunication" however was unintentional. And I chop that up to mobile farking. But, as long as it got a laugh, I'm happy with the unintended humor

theoneontheleft: I'm confused. He had two kids almost two decades ago, presumably from a long relationship if they're with the same woman, and today he decides to resign because he feels guilty about it? Weird.

Shenanigans called.

FTA:

The Mexican-born Zavala, ordained in 1977, is an influential figure within the Church renowned for his fight to abolish the death penalty in the United States, as well as improve rights for homosexuals and Mexican immigrants.


I think his politics might have become problematic somehow. After all, by church doctrine he should've been able to repent and confess any time in the last 10+ years and be a-ok again.

Le Geno Vert: It wasn't uncommon in my dad and grandad's time for the rector or monsignor of a parish to have a 'housekeeper' or 'cleaning lady' who - ahem - did for him, for lack of a better term. It was an open secret, but in a way, they claimed it made him closer to his parishioners - he could understand a guy problem with a little more familiarity - he knew what problems at home could often mean. They didn't begrudge him the little peccadillo that his office gave him - so long as he kept the parish accounts straight. Touch the money, then the torches and pitchforks would come out - but a little something something after vespers... it just wasn't such a big deal to their generation.

Breaker Moran: JackieRabbit: I meant to mention that the Pope should have spanked the bishop.

LOL -- that comment made my day!

Then take it further and consider how this makes the practice of Papal Indulgences much more interesting. Why there would be a gay porn site: www.papal-indulgences.com. Internet Rule number 43 in 5... 4... 3...

Cerebral Knievel: Old-sour-pickle-chips: Cerebral Knievel: Le Geno Vert: It wasn't uncommon in my dad and grandad's time for the rector or monsignor of a parish to have a 'housekeeper' or 'cleaning lady' who - ahem - did for him, for lack of a better term. It was an open secret, but in a way, they claimed it made him closer to his parishioners - he could understand a guy problem with a little more familiarity - he knew what problems at home could often mean. They didn't begrudge him the little peccadillo that his office gave him - so long as he kept the parish accounts straight. Touch the money, then the torches and pitchforks would come out - but a little something something after vespers... it just wasn't such a big deal to their generation.

And its a shame that such priests are forced to stay in the closet less they face excuminication.

?????
Made me laugh, at least. Hoping it was a purposefully funny butchering.

Well, it was meant to be topical to the nature of priests who have families need to remain on the down low, as the kids call it, in order to keep their jobs. And funny using the term "in the closet" as an ironic juxtaposition of the homosexual term for a gay person hiding their sexuality from the outside world. My mispelling of "excommunication" however was unintentional. And I chop that up to mobile farking. But, as long as it got a laugh, I'm happy with the unintended humor

Yeah, I turned it into ex-cum-in-him-cation.

Great headline subby.

True story, went to Catholic HS in SoCal. Not Catholic. And yes, several gay pedo priests there, none that I am aware of actually diddling HS kids, most of whom could kick their asses. But our principal was a priest, a holy, venerated man everyone referred to reverently as "Father" when he wasn't around without even adding his last name to the end. Just "Father," like he was the Pope of SoCal or something. All the students hated him, because he was a prick. Punched a kid in the face once. Really gutsy, since if the kid hit him back, he'd be excommunicated. Anyway, Mr. Venerated ended up dropping out of the priesthood to shack up with some chick. Last we heard, he was teaching at public school, and I doubt he is very highly venerated there.

Our rival catholic HS thought that was funny, until years later, their beloved principal was dragged away in handcuffs for diddling.

The moral of the story is, pedos have to be nice and friendly to get kids to like them so they can diddle. So, if your priest is a mean SOB, that's probably a good sign. OTOH, if everyone says how nice and charming your priest is, he is likely a diddler.

capt.hollister: Meh. The priest who married my wife and I 28 years ago had children and grandchildren.

I don't understand how the three of you could get married. Not even Vermont allows that. And how the fark did he have children, instead of your wife? Was he a pre-op tranny?

My goodness, he really *is* a Father.

StanTheMan: capt.hollister: Meh. The priest who married my wife and I 28 years ago had children and grandchildren.

I don't understand how the three of you could get married. Not even Vermont allows that. And how the fark did he have children, instead of your wife? Was he a pre-op tranny?

It helps that the three of us live in very liberal-minded Quebec.

StanTheMan: Great headline subby.

True story, went to Catholic HS in SoCal. Not Catholic. And yes, several gay pedo priests there, none that I am aware of actually diddling HS kids, most of whom could kick their asses. But our principal was a priest, a holy, venerated man everyone referred to reverently as "Father" when he wasn't around without even adding his last name to the end. Just "Father," like he was the Pope of SoCal or something. All the students hated him, because he was a prick. Punched a kid in the face once. Really gutsy, since if the kid hit him back, he'd be excommunicated. Anyway, Mr. Venerated ended up dropping out of the priesthood to shack up with some chick. Last we heard, he was teaching at public school, and I doubt he is very highly venerated there.

Our rival catholic HS thought that was funny, until years later, their beloved principal was dragged away in handcuffs for diddling.

The moral of the story is, pedos have to be nice and friendly to get kids to like them so they can diddle. So, if your priest is a mean SOB, that's probably a good sign. OTOH, if everyone says how nice and charming your priest is, he is likely a diddler.

Not necessarily, dude could just be the hardcore powertipping rapest, where the act of rape itself is an act of alpha dominence and age and gender doesn't really matter to their deranged psychosis.

+1 for Subby, + 1/2 for former Aux. Bishop of LA for presumably not molesting little boys while knocking up his lady friend (making a few assumptions here)

Yeah, things are bad enough I'm giving props to anyone who has worked within the RC Church hierarchy who isn't a pedophile or at least not acting on those impulses.