Also, the rammed individual is a Jew.

soon.....

Um, no. The court said that the plaintiff failed to show that the University bore culpability for the alleged battery. It should also be noted that the DA had previously declined to file charges against the alleged assailant because there was insufficient evidence to show that the contact was intentional. But please, don't let that get in the way of working up a good froth.

The judge says she sued the wrong entity, but that's not going to stop FOX News from running with it.

Theaetetus: So, no, Subs, ramming someone with a shopping cart is not protected political speech, it's assault, but the university you attend is not responsible for fights that break out during public protests in a public forum.

Well, then who is? We have a right to expect someone will take (fiduciary) responsibility for actions we find offensive. Right?

Is Drew sponsoring a "Most Inaccurate Headline" contest and I didn't get a memo?

I think confused-subby should ought themselves to get their award.

Lucky LaRue: Theaetetus: So, no, Subs, ramming someone with a shopping cart is not protected political speech, it's assault, but the university you attend is not responsible for fights that break out during public protests in a public forum.

Well, then who is? We have a right to expect someone will take (fiduciary) responsibility for actions we find offensive. Right?

No but First Amendment caselaw is very clear that the right to free speech includes a right to expect state actors to physically protect you while speaking. Otherwise the right to free speech would only clude speech popular to the listeners.

Lucky LaRue: Theaetetus: So, no, Subs, ramming someone with a shopping cart is not protected political speech, it's assault, but the university you attend is not responsible for fights that break out during public protests in a public forum.

Well, then who is? We have a right to expect someone will take (fiduciary) responsibility for actions we find offensive. Right?

The attacker is responsible. Wow, that was easy.

Isn't The Blaze a Glenn Beck outlet?

Magorn: Lucky LaRue: Theaetetus: So, no, Subs, ramming someone with a shopping cart is not protected political speech, it's assault, but the university you attend is not responsible for fights that break out during public protests in a public forum.

Well, then who is? We have a right to expect someone will take (fiduciary) responsibility for actions we find offensive. Right?

No but First Amendment caselaw is very clear that the right to free speech includes a right to expect state actors to physically protect you while speaking. Otherwise the right to free speech would only clude speech popular to the listeners.

HAHAHAHHA NO! Please point out where it says the state must protect you in any speaking circumstance? In fact, the case is is clear the state is under no obligation to protect you which you learn in Con law 101. You do not have any right to state protection when you are practicing your political speech. Police are empowered to protect the general welfare and that doesn't include the individual.

However, when the state setups a venue for you to practice speech then they could be liable if the venue wasn't properly setup to anticipate certain foreseeable acts. Example: the police will barricade hate groups off from other groups because there is a high probability of physical violence. The police do this to protect the general public, not ensure the group speaking is allowed to speak. Similarly, anti-hate protest groups can easily drown out the hate group speech with blow horns, loud mics, etc and the police will not step in to quiet them so the hate group can get their message across. Speech of one kind drowning out speech of another kind is perfectly acceptable but under your theory would be some sort of criminal act since the unpopular speech is drown out.

When you setup your own venue for speaking you are responsible for the security at that venue. You have to pay for that security out of your own pocket, even if the security is the local cops you have to pay the going rate to the police department to staff the venue. Failure to properly secure the venue can make you liable if anything occurs. Example: any type of speaking event at the national mall must have a permit and must submit a detailed security plan to ensure the general welfare will be kept. Guess who pays for the security plan? (hint: it isn't the tax payers)