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2012-01-04 08:11:49 AM
1 reason he shouldn't: Pay Day.

DNRTA.
 
2012-01-04 08:39:37 AM
2: If he gets injured, his stock falls from "Peyton Manning" down to "Julian Edelman"
 
2012-01-04 08:57:50 AM
3. I'm paid to write sports journalism but I can't think of anything or I'm just not good at my job. Here's an "X Reasons You Should Y" article!
 
2012-01-04 09:08:08 AM
I don't care how hot the Stanford chicks are, they can't overcome the lure of a $100M contract to play in the NFL.
 
2012-01-04 09:23:01 AM
The bowl game pretty much illustrated it... your coach decided to go with the freaking kicker when you were tearing their defense to shreds, particularly on that final drive. Then, in OT, he goes conservative once more.

Time to leave. Harbaugh would've won that game, because he'd have trusted Luck to actually "win" the game.
 
2012-01-04 09:51:50 AM
Has Manning actually said he doesn't want Luck?
 
2012-01-04 10:56:08 AM
so his advice for not entering the nfl draft as a presumptive #1 pick is that "the teams with the top ten draft picks aren't very good." stellar analysis, DJ.
 
2012-01-04 11:23:39 AM
There are millions of reasons finishing school would be stupid.
 
2012-01-04 11:27:36 AM
GAT_00: Has Manning actually said he doesn't want Luck?

How much would Peyton have to cut his salary to make room for Luck? Or an offensive line?
 
2012-01-04 11:29:21 AM
10 reasons he won't? The number of figures in his impending contract.
 
2012-01-04 11:30:30 AM
A lot of those are "this team sucks ass you don't want to be on that suck-ass team." But that's what I was thinking about the Panthers. Maybe all it takes is a talented young QB with potential to help turn a team around.
 
2012-01-04 11:30:36 AM
I_C_Weener: GAT_00: Has Manning actually said he doesn't want Luck?

How much would Peyton have to cut his salary to make room for Luck? Or an offensive line?


With the new rookie salary caps? Not much.
 
2012-01-04 11:32:58 AM
And that's one MORE reason why DJ Gallo is a hack sportswriter.
 
2012-01-04 11:33:56 AM
Please Colts, pass on Luck and stick with Manning. The meltdown over the next three years will be so very fun to watch.
 
2012-01-04 11:36:11 AM
And Cam Newton walked into a fantastic situation? Great players make the team better - end of story. The team with the #1 pick is always gonna suck so let's get the party started already Mr. Luck.
 
2012-01-04 11:38:03 AM
rjakobi: And that's one MORE reason why DJ Gallo is a hack sportswriter.

I would just kindly like to point out that we're talking about the founder of SportPickle here, and that this is a Page 2 article.

/Not in defense of ESPN, mind you
 
2012-01-04 11:39:30 AM
JohnBigBootay: And Cam Newton walked into a fantastic situation? Great players make the team better - end of story. The team with the #1 pick is always gonna suck so let's get the party started already Mr. Luck.

I wish someone had told Eli and his father that.
 
2012-01-04 11:39:36 AM
thomps: so his advice for not entering the nfl draft as a presumptive #1 pick is that "the teams with the top ten draft picks aren't very good." stellar analysis, DJ.

That was my though as well. What says the situation within the crappy NFL teams that have the top pick will be any better next year?
 
2012-01-04 11:42:02 AM
I_C_Weener: GAT_00: Has Manning actually said he doesn't want Luck?

How much would Peyton have to cut his salary to make room for Luck? Or an offensive line?


my assumption was that if they took luck, peyton's salary with the colts would be cut to zero.
 
2012-01-04 11:42:50 AM
Methinks DJ got into Ernest and Julio's secret stash.
 
2012-01-04 11:43:29 AM
"Would the situation be better for you in 2013 draft? It couldn't be worse."

Matt Leinart would like a word with you.
 
2012-01-04 11:43:33 AM
R.A.Danny: There are millions of reasons finishing school would be stupid.

He will already have graduated by the time he reports for training camp. He'd have to go back as a graduate student in the architecture program, and that program takes a hell of a lot of man hours at a state school, so I can only imagine what it must be like at Stanford.
 
2012-01-04 11:44:03 AM
Article's shiat, but it had one good lol.

6. Washington Redskins: I won't insult your intelligence by even taking the time to explain this one.
 
2012-01-04 11:44:57 AM
Cheesus: JohnBigBootay: And Cam Newton walked into a fantastic situation? Great players make the team better - end of story. The team with the #1 pick is always gonna suck so let's get the party started already Mr. Luck.

I wish someone had told Eli and his father that.


I don't, but I'm biased.
 
2012-01-04 11:46:12 AM
He could increase his stock and go super duper number 1?
 
2012-01-04 11:49:41 AM
Are the Broncos in his future?
John Elway, being a Stanford Alumni and wanting a QB who can throw the ball more than 7 yards accurately,
should take some interest in this kid.
heck, the Angels got Pujols, so anything can happen.
 
2012-01-04 11:50:41 AM
Mr. Coffee Nerves: I don't care how hot the Stanford chicks are, they can't overcome the lure of a $100M contract to play in the NFL.

with the new CBA and rookie scale, the huge guaranteed rookie contracts are out the window. Sam Bradford's deal was roughly 50 mill guaranteed. Cam's was just over $20 mill. That's why you can expect teams to make a run at that #1 pick this year, the impact on the team's cap isn't as great.

That's why Luck situation is obviously not about just the money. He should have entered the draft last year if that was the case. His family does well financially, as his dead was president of the local MLS team, now AD at West Virginia.

I'd like the Colts to do the dumb thing, and that's to trade the pick for more picks, and keep Peyton, b/c I think a 36 year old Peyton coming off neck fusion has very little ball left in him.
 
2012-01-04 11:54:23 AM
FreakinB: I don't, but I'm biased.

I enjoy seeing the Chargers prove Archie Manning right year after year.
 
2012-01-04 11:57:06 AM
I got a mild chuckle out of that

/this is not intended to be serious analysis
 
2012-01-04 11:58:08 AM
JohnBigBootay: And Cam Newton walked into a fantastic situation? Great players make the team better - end of story. The team with the #1 pick is always gonna suck so let's get the party started already Mr. Luck.

Carolina looks to be in great position. They have a super talented QB and finished bad enough to have a decent draft pick. Trade it away for 2 second rounders and begin building a team around Cam.

As for Luck, there is no reason not to come out of the draft now. Even if he does end up in a bad situation in Indy, it doesn't get better year after year. You either make your mark as a player or you don't.
 
2012-01-04 11:58:08 AM
Has anyone in here ever heard of DJ Gallo? He's a satirist, folks. Not serious. Sometimes he's hilarious, but no, this was not one of his better pieces. He used to write for The Onion. Calm down everyone, it's not supposed to be a serious article.
 
2012-01-04 11:59:08 AM
Cheesus: JohnBigBootay: And Cam Newton walked into a fantastic situation? Great players make the team better - end of story. The team with the #1 pick is always gonna suck so let's get the party started already Mr. Luck.

I wish someone had told Eli and his father that.


Eli joined a Giants team that was 4-12, just like the Chargers, who owned the #1 pick due to tiebreakers with the Giants and two other teams. Given how poorly-run that SD franchise is, seems like he made the right call on that one.
 
2012-01-04 11:59:38 AM
expobill: Are the Broncos in his future?
John Elway, being a Stanford Alumni and wanting a QB who can throw the ball more than 7 yards accurately,
should take some interest in this kid.
heck, the Angels got Pujols, so anything can happen.


Elway was out scouting him earlier in the year. I think he'd love to get Luck but I don't see how that happens. It'd be hilarious given what happened with Elway and the Colts.
 
2012-01-04 12:00:37 PM
FinFangFark: I'd like the Colts to do the dumb thing, and that's to trade the pick for more picks, and keep Peyton, b/c I think a 36 year old Peyton coming off neck fusion has very little ball left in him.

I'd like to see the Colts have both players on the roster - if Manning is playing at his 2009 levels and looks to do so long term, then you can look at trading Luck in 2013 after he has had a year of tutelage under one of the greats in the game. If Manning struggles and the team is really going into rebuilding mode, you put Luck in as the QB of the future in 2013 and let Manning walk. The bigger question is whether you can bring back a lot of the expensive veterans or not - if not, they might as well let Manning go too, as they aren't going to be making any playoff runs in the near future.
 
2012-01-04 12:01:09 PM
rag819: Has anyone in here ever heard of DJ Gallo? He's a satirist, folks. Not serious. Sometimes he's hilarious, but no, this was not one of his better pieces. He used to write for The Onion. Calm down everyone, it's not supposed to be a serious article.

right but it's a stupid premise used as a tired vehicle to use the same jokes that have been made about the nfl's basement dwellers one last time. boring.
 
2012-01-04 12:01:50 PM
And what, some pretty good team that's just lacking a QB will get the #1 pick next year? Good luck with that.

There aren't many of those, anyway. Arizona, Seattle, Cleveland maybe?
 
2012-01-04 12:04:28 PM
rjakobi: And that's one MORE reason why DJ Gallo is a hack sportswriter.

Page 2 - serious business.
 
2012-01-04 12:05:38 PM
Dafatone: And what, some pretty good team that's just lacking a QB will get the #1 pick next year? Good luck with that.

There aren't many of those, anyway. Arizona, Seattle, Cleveland maybe?


Seattle is the first team that comes to mind when I think "man, if they only had a QB"
 
2012-01-04 12:07:30 PM
rag819: Has anyone in here ever heard of DJ Gallo? He's a satirist, folks. Not serious. Sometimes he's hilarious, but no, this was not one of his better pieces. He used to write for The Onion. Calm down everyone, it's not supposed to be a serious article.

Ah.
 
2012-01-04 12:09:27 PM
Quasar: rag819: Has anyone in here ever heard of DJ Gallo? He's a satirist, folks. Not serious. Sometimes he's hilarious, but no, this was not one of his better pieces. He used to write for The Onion. Calm down everyone, it's not supposed to be a serious article.

Ah.


I'm not a big frequenter of the site, but the SportsPickle tweets are pretty damn funny.
 
2012-01-04 12:11:02 PM
I_C_Weener: GAT_00: Has Manning actually said he doesn't want Luck?

How much would Peyton have to cut his salary to make room for Luck? Or an offensive line?


I doubt he would have to cut his actual salary...but the Colts will owe him a lump sum payment of 28 million just for making the roster next year. I think that's why a lot of questions are coming up as to what to do with him. Take a chance and lose that money if he can't perform or try and trade him and see what they could get...if anything. Should be interesting to see what they will do.
 
2012-01-04 12:16:37 PM
He should have gone pro last year. Get that money while you can. Go back for the degree later. It's not like you're going to use it in the next 15 years.
 
2012-01-04 12:17:37 PM
Cookie-cutter space filler article on a satire portion of the website. Nothing more.

What's amusing is that on the flip side ESPN keeps writing things about Luck as if returning to school last season was a horrendous farking decision in the first place. FAILED TO WIN ANY HEISMANS. LOST BOWL GAMES. NO CHAMPIONSHIP. CHOSE NOT TO GO PRO AND PLAY ANOTHER YEAR. Then they interview him about it and he claims he has no regrets about returning last season. Humble pie.
 
2012-01-04 12:18:06 PM
INeedAName: As for Luck, there is no reason not to come out of the draft now. Even if he does end up in a bad situation in Indy, it doesn't get better year after year.

Pretty much. If Luck is the #1 draft pick any year, then, by definition, he'll be going to the absolute worst team in the league. The only way he could "improve" is to fall in the draft or have a bunch of other QBs come up better so that he gets picked by a team with a winning record.
 
2012-01-04 12:18:29 PM
What if San Fran offered their first pick, Smith and a couple other quality players for Luck? Indy showed how thin they are this year, they need more than one stud QB to rebuild.
 
2012-01-04 12:21:05 PM
rag819: Has anyone in here ever heard of DJ Gallo?

I honestly read that as Vincent Gallo, and was wondering why the f*ck some overrated indie film director would be writing for ESPN.
 
2012-01-04 12:21:24 PM
Rapmaster2000: He should have gone pro last year. Get that money while you can. Go back for the degree later. It's not like you're going to use it in the next 15 years.

Last year I could understand it. His family does well and wasn't hurting for money. He'd be able to finish the Stanford (repeat, *Stanford*) degree and be the BMOC for a year. He probably had an insurance policy on his future career. And he was so highly praised that barring injury he was almost certain to still be the #1 this year.

But this year, he'd be an idiot not to go.
 
2012-01-04 12:21:51 PM
Mr. Coffee Nerves: I don't care how hot the Stanford chicks are, they can't overcome the lure of a $100M contract to play in the NFL.

With $100 million, he can do two chicks at the same time -- 100 times!
 
2012-01-04 12:23:38 PM
IamKaiserSoze!!!: What if San Fran offered their first pick, Smith and a couple other quality players for Luck? Indy showed how thin they are this year, they need more than one stud QB to rebuild.

That would be pretty nice to reunite Luck with Harbaugh. But I think it takes 2 picks (1st and 2nd rounders) plus Smith and a few backup Olinemen.
 
2012-01-04 12:28:03 PM
FreakinB: But this year, he'd be an idiot not to go.

Indeed...I know it depends on who you ask, but it sounded like Barkley was the somewhat-consensus "#2" in this draft, and with him backing out, you'd think the offers Indianapolis would receive for the first pick will only increase. Because of the Elway and Eli Manning trade debacles, teams are going to ask the guy "hey, would you even want to play for us?" before even trying to make a trade, so Luck probably has the choice of half of the league right now.
 
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