WRONG!

INCORRECT!

Stupid teens/kids making stupid posts in chat does not equal "game play"

Foul, flag on the play.

FTA: "I also know that games tend to portray women as scantily clad and unrealistically proportioned....blah blah blah"

Sure, the dudes are always full cover and realistically proportioned.

This sounds like the kind of thing that is optional and only done at the players choice...

Oh for hell's sake, not this shiat again....

Mentalpatient87: This sounds like the kind of thing that is optional and only done at the players choice...

It is. When I played the same character in the beta, I didn't shock her, eventually I let her go and she ended up my most loyal friend. Unfortunately in the beta you were a bit hamstrung as far a gear went if you were playing a "Neutral Side" Sith.I don't know if that was changed in the release version of the game.

FTA: "For that matter, the treatment of slaves in SWTOR is pretty abysmal. "

It's the farking Sith, you expected anything less?

My kids really want to play this game. Based on this, I don't think I'll let them.

/I, on the other hand, would torture that chick 'til she farted blood.

I find SWTOR to be horribly sexist... but mostly just because the guys get all the good flirt options.

I have nothing of value to add to the dicussion.

But I will say that slaves are awesome.

jaylectricity: I find it tough to beat most games because I refuse to take the evil path.

Some games make it easier to play good. I would use SW: Jedi Academy 2 as an appropriate example, dark side powers on that game kind of sucked.

AmorousRedDragon: SW: Jedi Academy 2

Er, Jedi Knight 2: Jedi Academy. Jedi.

AmorousRedDragon: jaylectricity: I find it tough to beat most games because I refuse to take the evil path.

Some games make it easier to play good. I would use SW: Jedi Academy 2 as an appropriate example, dark side powers on that game kind of sucked.

A lot of people said that playing the evil side on Planescape: Torment actually felt legitimately unpleasant.

So... this will get blown out of proportion. *sigh*

optional: A lot of people said that playing the evil side on Planescape: Torment actually felt legitimately unpleasant

Ha funny you should say that, I just started playing that like a month ago (love BG/ID), I ran around with Mort looking for the corpse-collector guy, kept getting easily killed and sort of lost interest. I like the fact that you are on Sigil but damn that game seems unwieldy.

Ok, then simply change it so that you can choose which gender slave you get.

/with reporting these days, it probably already is that way

MessyDwarf: My kids really want to play this game. Based on this, I don't think I'll let them.

/I, on the other hand, would torture that chick 'til she farted blood.

Based on this? At least check ESRB's website. They rate all games, their ratings are on the game packaging, and they tell you why they rate them as such.

And if all else fails, play it yourself first. When we were kids my parents would check movies themselves before taking us. Don't just rely on articles written by people trying to gain hits.

The Old Republic's ESRB page. (new window)

Oh snap. Next they'll be telling us that there's misogyny in movies and books.

I only play games where slaves are pampered.

I only play games where there are no bad guys.

/They're SITH you IDIOT. The definition of EVIL.

Hmm. I guess I could try this, IF I DIDN'T GET A 48-HOUR BAN FOR "MISUSING THE AUCTION HOUSE" (read: buying out all of the 340 missions with my pre-nerf slicing cash, and relisting them to make a profit). One of my guildies got banned for mailing a shiatload of cash to a new character, and multiple people have been banned for going to higher-level planets to loot unattended chests.

I have to give Bioware props for actually making a game where "evil" is a legitimate choice that doesn't just consist of being a dick. The Sith in the game are fairly fleshed out and good v. evil is framed for them as weakness v. power. As others have said, no one is forcing the player to do terrible things and it is totally viable to play on the "bad guy's team" as a "good guy."

Misogyny ; What women call it when people call them on their shiat.

Misandry: What's that ? Everyone knows that Men are dicks.

Bonanza Jellybean: Hmm. I guess I could try this, IF I DIDN'T GET A 48-HOUR BAN FOR "MISUSING THE AUCTION HOUSE" (read: buying out all of the 340 missions with my pre-nerf slicing cash, and relisting them to make a profit). One of my guildies got banned for mailing a shiatload of cash to a new character, and multiple people have been banned for going to higher-level planets to loot unattended chests.

Wow, that's ridiculous, there goes my main reason to ever play an MMO.
Making loads of fake money from people making bad financial decisions with their own fake money was why I played wow for a couple years.

Alas.

I misread this and thought it was about mahogany.
Time to go back to bed.

Bonanza Jellybean: Hmm. I guess I could try this, IF I DIDN'T GET A 48-HOUR BAN FOR "MISUSING THE AUCTION HOUSE" (read: buying out all of the 340 missions with my pre-nerf slicing cash, and relisting them to make a profit). One of my guildies got banned for mailing a shiatload of cash to a new character, and multiple people have been banned for going to higher-level planets to loot unattended chests.

Hrmph, that really sucks. In EVE Online, if you DON'T do those things, you're playing wrong.

FTA: It's the objectification of those women that becomes really problematic, and games do it all the time (look at the evolution of Lara Croft or do a Google image search for Kusami from Dead or Alive and you'll see what I mean) ....
I think there's room for games to treat their female audiences with respect and still be sexy - at least as far as games can be sexy. If the industry really want to be taken seriously, and capture the growing female market, they're going to have to try a lot harder.

What female gamer would be put off by playing as a gorgeous woman within a video game? I don't see how a female would be put off with that, or how it has anything to do with warding off a female market--never once have I thought, "fark this, this game is sexist and contributes to my negative self-image" while I played as Laura Croft, shootin' dinos in the face. I would probably like the game less if I got to walk around, solving puzzles, as a 5'2 150lb character with body type of an average american woman.

usernameguy: I used to be a misogynist in video games, but then I took an arrow to the knee.

and the thread is done

God-is-a-Taco: Physical rape, mental rape, genocide, child trafficking, killing children, killing your allies, and some other stuff that is terrible

Well, it is Japan. I can only imagine the "evil" path they created for this game.

dollbreaks:
What female gamer would be put off by playing as a gorgeous woman within a video game? I don't see how a female would be put off with that, or how it has anything to do with warding off a female market--never once have I thought, "fark this, this game is sexist and contributes to my negative self-image" while I played as Laura Croft, shootin' dinos in the face. I would probably like the game less if I got to walk around, solving puzzles, as a 5'2 150lb character with body type of an average american woman.

Before I quit WoW, one of my three main toons was ... a female dwarf Death Knight (I picked it because it had an unusual glitch at the time -- no glowing blue eyes). Undead, short, fat and ugly. But sassy. I think I was the only one on the server. At the DK starter zone there were four gnomes, all of which were bummed because I came up with something original. And I only saw three other fem dwarf DKs in the dungeon finder before I quit. And I roleplayed her constantly drunk, which made tanking/attacking interesting in Wrath, stumbling towards the next group of baddies.

And for the fishing contests, I'd roll out in the straw hat and a revealing chainmail outfit I discovered while mining. Or a tux and eyepiece. Got plenty of macros from Horde players, most of them nauseous. Like female orcs, cows or trolls are anything to look at. And I was sure popular whenever some holiday event required players to do something with a female dwarf.

Btw, recently played APB Reloaded and thought about something similar to this article. My female criminal, a Satanic, freckled ginger clad in either a leather jacket, snakeskin pants and flats or a hoodie, sunglasses, sweats and tatooed bare feet (modern cultist look, since there's no robes or sandals) is a freaking Puritan compared to the legions of players running female enforcer or criminal characters around with just pasties, panties and stockings.

Also, APB Reloaded is a mediocre shooter/GTA III wannabe, frustrating at times and for some goddamn reason, I keep playing it just to kill time and be creative with the car, tatoo and clothing decals.

The gaming industry still has it in their collective heads that targeting teenage boys is the only way to sell games despite the growing number of girl gamers (and non-teenagers, for that matter.)

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Other games, like Half-Life 2 and the Uncharted franchise do a much better job.)

Apparently the industry does not have collective heads.