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xl5150
2012-01-03 11:44:40 PM
Unless he's developmentally disabled, it's not really accurate to keep referring to a 15-year-old as a "kid" in this sense. Sure, he's a juvenile, but they're making it out to be like some 6-year-old was flying on his own and they took him to the wrong city. That's a far cry from a 15-year-old falling asleep and sleeping through his stop and then not knowing how to deal with it. Then again, I guess I shouldn't be surprised, because that's the type of clientele who flies on Southwest, the Greyhound bus of the sky.
NuttierThanEver
2012-01-03 11:56:18 PM
usernameguy
2012-01-04 03:26:29 AM
She said Southwest should have taken a head count
Having just flown on Southwest, I can tell you they do a head count. Well, they claim to do one, anyway.
/And what 15-year-old doesn't have a cell phone?
AverageAmericanGuy
2012-01-04 03:45:54 AM
Why didn't the stewardess wake him and ask him to take off his headphones upon landing?
It's against regulations to be operating electronic equipment during takeoff and landing.
usernameguy
2012-01-04 03:50:06 AM
AverageAmericanGuy
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Why didn't the stewardess wake him and ask him to take off his headphones upon landing?
It's against regulations to be operating electronic equipment during takeoff and landing.
There's a lot of fishiatude about this story.
Memoryalpha
2012-01-04 03:50:58 AM
For a moment I thought this was going to be a reference to a Russian new years movie.
/Enjoy your bath...
Hagbardr
2012-01-04 03:51:32 AM
I once fell asleep and missed my bus stop. I had to walk an extra two blocks home. Truly a traumatic experience.
logieal
2012-01-04 03:51:49 AM
Even with no cell phone and no money, there are still things called pay phones. Airports still have them. They even let you do things like call collect.
But I bet things like calling someone and having them pay for the call is something foreign to a 15 year old now days.
Hell, I'm sure if he had been really nice to someone, they would have let him use a cell phone. But lemme guess, he doesn't even have his home phone number memorized because it's in his phone.
/get off my lawn.
//I'm not that old, but knew how to call collect at 15.
Jisaw
2012-01-04 03:53:02 AM
He was probably stoned/drunk, didn't want to get in trouble and wasn't thinking clearly when he landed.
Couldn't call home for 24 hours, and only did so once a good samaritan helped you? Bullshiat.
cmunic8r99
2012-01-04 03:57:43 AM
How do you walk aimlessly around the "St. Louis area"?
FTFA:
Erik McBee said he called 911.
"They said that they're not a taxi service and hung up," he said.
A FOIA request would tell whether or not this is true.
WhyteRaven74
2012-01-04 03:58:36 AM
Airports have travel assistance offices, where among other things you can call family if you're stranded or some such.
Clint_Torres
2012-01-04 04:18:43 AM
His fault. End of story.
So because of this person, we could be subjected to babysitting and hand holding whenever we travel from now on, regardless of age?
UseTheForksLuke
2012-01-04 04:26:16 AM
When I was 15 I got on a train in Germany to go to the next station about 40km away. The conductor made me sit on the pull-out jump seat at the end of the car so I would not miss my stop and he mentioned the train only stopped for twenty seconds to pick up the mail. He reassured me that in case I did not get off of the train in time that I could get off at the next stop: Istanbul Turkey! The train stopped at the station and I literally jumped off the train. There was no farking way I was going to call my mom and tell her I was in Istanbul.
Never missed a flight or slept through an entire airport when I was a kid.
BRAT traveled lots by self, nine years old around the world no assistance.
What is wrong with kids these days? This is worse than stoned/drunk.
Either the kid is really stupid, or a genius for excaping to St. Louis for a day.
Munqaxus
2012-01-04 04:29:36 AM
Wow people, have a little compassion. He's 15, one year away from being in middle school. I can see a teenager sleeping through a landing and take off and I can definitely see a teenager not having his home phone memorized since they're all kept in your cellphones now days. Plus, who would expect to be taken to the wrong city, so no need for cash, he probably was flying from his grandparents to his parents. Not having a cellphone is weird but then again, he might have not wanted to take it with him or he broke it.
Bhruic
2012-01-04 04:36:33 AM
Munqaxus
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Wow people, have a little compassion. He's 15, one year away from being in middle school. I can see a teenager sleeping through a landing and take off and I can definitely see a teenager not having his home phone memorized since they're all kept in your cellphones now days. Plus, who would expect to be taken to the wrong city, so no need for cash, he probably was flying from his grandparents to his parents. Not having a cellphone is weird but then again, he might have not wanted to take it with him or he broke it.
Oh, I can totally see the story happening. The dumb part is the mother's attempt to blame the airline. This story should have been written as "Teen exercises typcial teen stupidity and sleeps through airplane landing/takeoff. Ends up in St. Louis. Freaks out."
Bigjohn3592
2012-01-04 04:39:09 AM
WhyteRaven74
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Airports have travel assistance offices, where among other things you can call family if you're stranded or some such.
Nevermind the travel office, any gate agent would have helped, if the kid could communicate his problem clearly, which I doubt
Munqaxus
2012-01-04 04:47:30 AM
Bhruic
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Munqaxus: Wow people, have a little compassion. He's 15, one year away from being in middle school. I can see a teenager sleeping through a landing and take off and I can definitely see a teenager not having his home phone memorized since they're all kept in your cellphones now days. Plus, who would expect to be taken to the wrong city, so no need for cash, he probably was flying from his grandparents to his parents. Not having a cellphone is weird but then again, he might have not wanted to take it with him or he broke it.
Oh, I can totally see the story happening. The dumb part is the mother's attempt to blame the airline. This story should have been written as "Teen exercises typcial teen stupidity and sleeps through airplane landing/takeoff. Ends up in St. Louis. Freaks out."
Typical Helicopter-Mom.
crab66
2012-01-04 04:58:23 AM
Munqaxus
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Wow people, have a little compassion. He's 15, one year away from being in middle school. I can see a teenager sleeping through a landing and take off and I can definitely see a teenager not having his home phone memorized since they're all kept in your cellphones now days. Plus, who would expect to be taken to the wrong city, so no need for cash, he probably was flying from his grandparents to his parents. Not having a cellphone is weird but then again, he might have not wanted to take it with him or he broke it.
Pretty sure I was in High School by 15.
Marcintosh
2012-01-04 05:28:18 AM
Southwest promised to check their policies and procedures
Right after they find that new lode of 98% pure "Give A Shiat"
Unobtanium
2012-01-04 05:41:40 AM
When I was 15, I planned and made an entire week-long trip away from home by myself, with my parent's knowledge and support. I made the transportation reservations, the hotel reservations, paid in advance (cash, because I didn't have a credit card) and had a budget for food.
Back then banks sold these things called "travelers checks" and they were all the rage among paranoid folks, well marketed by American Express. My "savings and loan" had free travelers checks for people with accounts (and a free toaster for a $250 deposit).
The only help I wound up needing from Mom and Dad was changing the return trip to an earlier date for something they had forgotten about, so they had to pony up a credit card for an airline ticket.
None of the transportation people insisted I have a baby sitter, and I made it without losing major body components, catching a communicable disease, or falling prey to any of the bogeymen of the time. Mobile phones? Yeah, I had a friend whose father had one, essentially a VHF radio set up to use as a car-mounted phone.
This story reminds me we've got some work to do with our progeny. Only difference is these days, I don't think I'd send a kid off on a trip unescorted without a pre-paid cell phone.
/Excuse me while I chase these kids off my lawn and shout at some clouds.
Pastor Veal
2012-01-04 05:46:00 AM
Stranding the kid in St. Louis was natures attempt to prevent the spread of dumbass genes. I think Southwest should consider offering this as a service -- a modern-day equivalent of setting someone useless on an ice floe.
indeebud
2012-01-04 05:51:29 AM
I'd have called the police right there in the presence of the Southwest representative that told me there was nothing I could do as a mother. I'd file a missing persons report and point fingers directly at Southwest. As for the kid? Well, lol, had he been my kid he'd not have wandered around for 24 hours on his own. He'd know to stay put and look for a police officer. Surely a TSA agent would happily jump in to act as Johnny Bravo. lol
indeebud
2012-01-04 05:56:26 AM
Oh and also, aren't minors under 18 required by the FAA to wear the badge if flying alone? Surely there's a manifest kept by the flight attendants as to whom is on which flight and if the plane is making further connections to another city, which of those originating passengers will be going onward. Methinks some Southwest heads are gonna roll. lol
Walker
2012-01-04 06:20:25 AM
This guy sounds like a major dumbass.
mrmaster
2012-01-04 06:32:08 AM
I may not be 15 anymore but why in the world would you leave the airport if you are in the wrong town. I would absolutely refuse to leave the gate area until I found someone to help me.
So the kid was so stoned that he slept through a takeoff and landing. Was so stupid or still stoned that he couldn't ask for help the right way??
There is no other valid explanation to this fiasco. Wonder if he thought he could score some more drugs and that is why he decided to walk around st. louis.
Gaylord Farker
2012-01-04 06:33:45 AM
My CSB: At 15 I flew with by best friend from boston to LA, spent a day at Disney, then travelled to Jakarta to spend the night before we meet an (all adult) volunteer group where we did animal research (across the sea in borneo actually) for most of the summer. On way home we flew via singapre to Perth, then to ayers rock and Sydney. All without plans. We simply figured out busses taxis and tourist information offices. We had plane tickets (the carbon paper kind you could NOT lose) travelers checks, a cc for emergencies only, and common sense. We avoided trouble the whole way, never had a moment of weirdness. Thankfully we were good, dorky kids with no desire to drink... Just wanted to see the world. My point? I thank our parents for raising us as responsible adults with the ability not to crap ourselves when faced with challenges. Sadly I think I became too stupid to handle the same things from age 17 to 21 when I became a teenage shiathead, blindly chasing tail and beer.
Gaumond
2012-01-04 06:39:52 AM
This kids going to be driving soon...
Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf
2012-01-04 06:51:23 AM
If you think the family of the child destined for Tulsa who ended up in St. Louis is pissed, you should see the family of the child destined for St. Louis that they put off the pane in Tulsa!
gadian
2012-01-04 06:52:05 AM
Note to self: Make sure your 15 year old can actually recite his home phone number. I know you covered this in preschool, but have a go at it again.
Addendum: refresher course on what to do if he is lost, like look for a safe adult that can help.
Also: Check his wallet to see if he actually has cash for cabs and coins for pay phone use.
Mister Peejay
2012-01-04 06:53:11 AM
He woke up in a different city? At least he didn't wake up as a different person.
Animatronik
2012-01-04 07:03:37 AM
indeebud
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I'd have called the police right there in the presence of the Southwest representative that told me there was nothing I could do as a mother. I'd file a missing persons report and point fingers directly at Southwest. As for the kid? Well, lol, had he been my kid he'd not have wandered around for 24 hours on his own. He'd know to stay put and look for a police officer. Surely a TSA agent would happily jump in to act as Johnny Bravo. lol
Yes, but how would you cure the stupid?
EasilyDistracted
2012-01-04 07:14:56 AM
So...who was supposed to meet the kid in Tulsa and why didn't that person notify anyone when the kid didn't show up outside of security?
Something doesn't sound quite right with this story.
Lonewolf45100
2012-01-04 07:36:43 AM
Dumbass tag would be more appropriate.
If you are 15 and can't figure out how to get on or off an airplane, you should not be traveling alone.
enderthexenocide
2012-01-04 07:38:41 AM
i don't know why he's complaining. he got a free trip to st. louis.
I_ROUTE
2012-01-04 07:40:28 AM
crab66
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Munqaxus: Wow people, have a little compassion. He's 15, one year away from being in middle school. I can see a teenager sleeping through a landing and take off and I can definitely see a teenager not having his home phone memorized since they're all kept in your cellphones now days. Plus, who would expect to be taken to the wrong city, so no need for cash, he probably was flying from his grandparents to his parents. Not having a cellphone is weird but then again, he might have not wanted to take it with him or he broke it.
Pretty sure I was in High School by 15.
Easy now. He is from North Carolina...
MVEAlpha
2012-01-04 07:41:09 AM
Sounds like Southwest saved this kid from having to go to Tulsa. Someone needs to give Southwest a freakin' medal.
/fixing to take a good snooze on a Frontier flight to Denver
I_ROUTE
2012-01-04 07:46:07 AM
indeebud
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Oh and also, aren't minors under 18 required by the FAA to wear the badge if flying alone?
/Not up to the FAA
//It is up to the airlines.
///Google is your friend, try it some time
Link
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Children ages five through 11 traveling without an accompanying Passenger age 12 or older must travel as an Unaccompanied Minor (UM) on Southwest Airlines
For UAL
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The service is mandatory for unaccompanied children 5 to 11 years old and optional for those 12 to 17 years old.
Gruetzi
2012-01-04 07:52:24 AM
There was nobody in the police station?
Southwest wouldn't help him after he took a flight without a ticket?
I call BS on both accounts.
ChrisDe
2012-01-04 07:55:25 AM
In almost every instance of a consumer issue with Southwest Airlines, I side with Southwest. No exception here.
Candygram for Mongo
2012-01-04 07:56:37 AM
Gaumond
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This kids going to be driving soon...
I can't wait for the
about how he missed his exit because he was changing the radio station, getting stranded in St. Peters.
BalugaJoe
2012-01-04 08:02:56 AM
Probably high on weed man.
Where's Dave?
indeebud
2012-01-04 08:24:40 AM
I_ROUTE
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indeebud: Oh and also, aren't minors under 18 required by the FAA to wear the badge if flying alone?
/Not up to the FAA
//It is up to the airlines.
///Google is your friend, try it some time
Link (new window)
Children ages five through 11 traveling without an accompanying Passenger age 12 or older must travel as an Unaccompanied Minor (UM) on Southwest Airlines
For UAL: The service is mandatory for unaccompanied children 5 to 11 years old and optional for those 12 to 17 years old.
Manners are our friend too, try them some time. ;)
indeebud
2012-01-04 08:28:09 AM
Animatronik
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indeebud: I'd have called the police right there in the presence of the Southwest representative that told me there was nothing I could do as a mother. I'd file a missing persons report and point fingers directly at Southwest. As for the kid? Well, lol, had he been my kid he'd not have wandered around for 24 hours on his own. He'd know to stay put and look for a police officer. Surely a TSA agent would happily jump in to act as Johnny Bravo. lol
Yes, but how would you cure the stupid?
That requires a special "Pew Pew Pew" gun or my particular preference: The Sledgehammer. Unfortunately, both would render my existence in prison so I'm hoping disease helps filter out the weaker gene pools. lol
zez
2012-01-04 08:43:39 AM
"The child wakes up in St. Louis with no family, no money, no cell phone and no help,"
Sounds like the lamest Burn Notice episode ever
dj_spanmaster
2012-01-04 08:43:54 AM
You wake up at Seatac, SFO, LAX. You wake up at O'Hare, Dallas-Fort Worth, BWI. Pacific, mountain, central. Lose an hour, gain an hour. This is your life, and it's ending one minute at a time. You wake up at Air Harbor International. If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person?
zez
2012-01-04 08:53:58 AM
cmunic8r99
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How do you walk aimlessly around the "St. Louis area"?
Exactly! There isn't much around the airport that would be tempting for a 15 year old. Unless he hopped on the MetroLink for a ride.
Tom_Slick
2012-01-04 09:09:45 AM
Yes the kid is a dumbass, and was either drunk or stoned, but Southwest is the only airline this could have happened on. Every other airline would have known there shouldn't have been a person in seat 14A.
Shafty
2012-01-04 09:15:46 AM
EasilyDistracted
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Something doesn't sound quite right with this story.
I agree.
Where was he aimlessly walking around? When you arrive in St. Louis via Southwest, you depart in the east terminal (separate building) which is exclusive to Southwest. In order to walk anywhere you pretty much need to take a cab, shuttle bus, tram or have someone pick you up from there. Im sure you can walk, but its not wise to do so as its a busy 2 lane divided road to the terminal.
My guess is he either purposely didnt depart in Tulsa to see if he could get away with it, or just a complete dumbass. Either one is plausible here. Why didnt he contact one of the many Southwest agents there in the terminal or at least talk to a TSA agent? You cant leave the airport without passing security anyway. Kid has some explaining to do and none of this is Southwests issue.
Gimli_Gloin
2012-01-04 09:18:49 AM
I am calling shenanigans.
Let me guess, he didn't want to be checked in and handled by the airline like a "child".
Of course when things go Charlie Foxtrot, mom goes crazy.
Being an adult means responsibilities. That means being aware and getting off the airplane.
J.Garcia'sRightMiddleFinger
2012-01-04 09:38:02 AM
This kid, and his mother, have to be two of the dumbest people on the planet. Missed stop (how do you not realize the plane you are on plane is landing?), no cell phone when travelling around the country by himself, and genius can't figure out how to call home, and his mom thinks this is all SouthWest's fault, since it is not the responsibility of a 15 year old nor his parents to in any way be properly prepared for a situation.
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