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(Fox News)   What happens when a group of 8-year-olds sing a song about being part of the 99 percent? Oh, you'd better believe there's outrage   (radio.foxnews.com) divider line 386
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2012-01-04 01:50:39 PM  

trappedspirit: You know who drags kids into politics as emotional pawns? I'll give you a hint, it's not the one percenters.


Attempts at restoring mandatory prayer in school, the Pledge of Allegiance being recited, and Kansas deciding that whole evolution thing is an unsupported theory all suggest otherwise.

/Remember, you're easier to control if you stay stupid.
 
2012-01-04 01:51:42 PM  

ReapTheChaos: Way to raise up some little socialists.


Better than another generation of McCarthyists.
 
2012-01-04 02:21:39 PM  
When I was eight, that's all I thought about was faster rides and yachts.....bullshiat
 
2012-01-04 02:24:32 PM  
Well children are pretty poor -Except Richie Rich.

He's not real?
 
2012-01-04 03:01:40 PM  

muck4doo: Weaver95: muck4doo: How would you like it if Jesus Camp was being held at public schools? .

so OWS is now a religious cult?

It's something that doesn't belong in the 3rd grade curriculum, you dumbass.


economics and politics are part of 3rd grade curriculum..
 
2012-01-04 03:11:35 PM  
I read the lyrics to the song and there's no way in hell that 8yr olds wrote it. Most likely it was written by a sexually confused lib arts major.
 
2012-01-04 03:11:42 PM  

halfof33: fark'emfeed'emfish: this isn't about sides, the 99% has been co-opted in your mind alone, divide and conquer

Really? Then why was Occupy Chicago so happy to carry the Chicago Public Teacher's Union's water during the take over of the Board of Education meeting last month?

public employee union activists have been embedded with OWS since very nearly the beginning.


[citations]?
 
2012-01-04 03:25:09 PM  
Children are being indoctrinated from all sides by many sources. What we should do is take them away at birth and keep them in individual rooms until they are 18 years old, with no human interaction and their only source of information being a computer that teaches them the three R's and some randomly-chosen trade skills. When they reach 18 they are allowed to leave the room and enter the world, free from all indoctrinations and ready to make their own choices.
 
2012-01-04 03:29:13 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: muck4doo: 3rd grade is entirely an appropriate time to start indoctrinating kids in your opinion.

My own indoctrination began in first grade, when the teacher led us in a pledge of allegiance to a red, white and blue cloth hanging on the wall.


this
 
2012-01-04 03:31:57 PM  

jso2897: You know, now that they have perfected the "water process" ( a means by which caffeine can be extracted from the coffee bean without spoiling the flavor), it is possible to obtain decaf that is not only drinkable, but outright tasty.
Perhaps you should try some.


There are also a fine selection of drugs to handle that manic thing.
 
2012-01-04 03:49:46 PM  

fark'emfeed'emfish: [citations]?


Link (new window)
 
2012-01-04 04:00:56 PM  
99 percent of y'alls can lick my balls.

There's a rhyme for you.
 
2012-01-04 04:10:02 PM  

halfof33: fark'emfeed'emfish: [citations]?

Link (new window)


I see no direct link to occupy, only allusions and vaguely asserted connections.

"In a chaotic scene that echoed recent Occupy protests in Chicago and elsewhere" and "One by one, the protesters - parents, community activists, current and former CPS teachers and people with ties to Occupy Chicago and the Chicago Teachers Union"- this is manufactured association.
 
2012-01-04 04:15:26 PM  
hey Muck4doo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_HBIZCyBf0
 
2012-01-04 04:17:16 PM  

fark'emfeed'emfish: halfof33: fark'emfeed'emfish: [citations]?

Link (new window)

I see no direct link to occupy, only allusions and vaguely asserted connections.

"In a chaotic scene that echoed recent Occupy protests in Chicago and elsewhere" and "One by one, the protesters - parents, community activists, current and former CPS teachers and people with ties to Occupy Chicago and the Chicago Teachers Union"- this is manufactured association.


"Although union members said the protests were an "organic" showing of public outrage, two members of Occupy Chicago said afterward that they had helped organize the event with the help of the teachers union. Some protesters even wore buttons with the number "1%" over Mayor Rahm Emanuel's face.

"The goal of this action was not to shut down the Board of Education meeting," said James Murphy, who teaches philosophy at DePaul University and is an Occupy member."

Curious that Occupy Chicago also says it right on their front page too:

Occupy Chicago Joins Chicago Teachers Union For Overnight Vigil & CPS Board Meeting to Stop School Closings

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2012-01-04 04:20:03 PM  

Hanna Chan: 99 percent of y'alls can lick my balls.

There's a rhyme for you.


Wow, took "teabagger" literally, did we?
 
2012-01-04 04:51:55 PM  
ok, Occupy Chicago clearly had a hand there as far as that site is concerned, but occupy is a global movement. Even the national movement cannot be judged as an entity based on similar protest goals and cooperation in one city, specifically regarding the closing of schools and the dismal state of education. There is good reason for both parties to have an interest here, and I fail to see how that should polarize occupy as a whole, except to those who have demonized unions and dismiss their activities, and anyone associated with them outright.

in that case, mission accomplished, we are divided. Back to our regularly scheduled programming.
 
2012-01-04 05:05:17 PM  

fark'emfeed'emfish: ok, Occupy Chicago clearly had a hand there as far as that site is concerned, but occupy is a global movement. Even the national movement cannot be judged as an entity based on similar protest goals and cooperation in one city, specifically regarding the closing of schools and the dismal state of education. There is good reason for both parties to have an interest here, and I fail to see how that should polarize occupy as a whole, except to those who have demonized unions and dismiss their activities, and anyone associated with them outright.

in that case, mission accomplished, we are divided. Back to our regularly scheduled programming.


Divided and determined to completely destroy our country come hell or high water, and drag the rest of the world down with us.
 
2012-01-04 05:17:35 PM  

keylock71: Eh... Lyrics definitely read like they were written by kids.

'Course, I can see how the folks at FOX News and their viewers would think they're too advanced.


i luled
 
JVD
2012-01-04 05:18:02 PM  
I remember singing "The Star-Spangled Banner," "My Country, 'Tis of Thee," "You're A Grand Old Flag," and "God Bless America" in elementary school.
I'm in my 20s too, don't call me grandpa :P

What the hell is wrong with out country now.
 
2012-01-04 05:52:54 PM  

This text is now purple: NicoFinn: Then we were instructed to go home and have our parents pin a donkey or an elephant onto our shirts to wear to class the next day.

There was no outrage.

Primarily because elementary-aged kids tend to be either jackasses or fat-asses, and either way, the pins helped tell which your parents thought you were.


still luling
 
2012-01-04 07:00:23 PM  

Ow My Balls: Personally, I'd rather than hour have been set aside for a special science demonstration or something.

/Millersburg, IN
//1979-84



When I was at this school it happened during the 90's in southeast Ky. The next public school I went to did have the bible lesson but it was more once a month rather than once a week. They also didn't make anyone recite the pledge of allegiance until after 9/11 and still you could choose not to do it without getting in trouble,doesn't mean you wouldn't get awful looks.
 
2012-01-04 08:04:05 PM  

muck4doo: My point was none of that should be going on at that age. Whatever happened to teaching the three "R's" in elementary school?


They wrote or, at the very least, read a poem/song containing age appropriate mathematical concepts like percentages and greater than/less than. Seems to me they got at least two of the three "R's" right there even if you're correct in the authorship.

Why is it that people who are so skirt clutching about "indoctrination" and insist on "back to basics" scholarship always seem to forget that people read and write about actual topics and that children are exposed, rightly, to a wide variety of them in the course of their compulsory education?
 
2012-01-04 08:21:24 PM  

weezbo: muck4doo: My point was none of that should be going on at that age. Whatever happened to teaching the three "R's" in elementary school?

They wrote or, at the very least, read a poem/song containing age appropriate mathematical concepts like percentages and greater than/less than. Seems to me they got at least two of the three "R's" right there even if you're correct in the authorship.

Why is it that people who are so skirt clutching about "indoctrination" and insist on "back to basics" scholarship always seem to forget that people read and write about actual topics and that children are exposed, rightly, to a wide variety of them in the course of their compulsory education?


Because if those kids wrote a song about Jesus, you liberals would have their heads on a pike. You agree with the teachers in this case, so you think it is okay. It does not get any more double standardy than that. Those kids did not do that on their own, to pretend is to live a lie.
 
2012-01-04 08:35:40 PM  

Thunderpipes: weezbo: muck4doo: My point was none of that should be going on at that age. Whatever happened to teaching the three "R's" in elementary school?

They wrote or, at the very least, read a poem/song containing age appropriate mathematical concepts like percentages and greater than/less than. Seems to me they got at least two of the three "R's" right there even if you're correct in the authorship.

Why is it that people who are so skirt clutching about "indoctrination" and insist on "back to basics" scholarship always seem to forget that people read and write about actual topics and that children are exposed, rightly, to a wide variety of them in the course of their compulsory education?

Because if those kids wrote a song about Jesus, you liberals would have their heads on a pike. You agree with the teachers in this case, so you think it is okay. It does not get any more double standardy than that. Those kids did not do that on their own, to pretend is to live a lie.


Since anything we teach kids is indoctrination, we should stop teaching them altogether and let them figure out life on their own.
 
2012-01-04 09:00:14 PM  

Thunderpipes: Derp, derp, false equivalency, derp, and some more derp.

 
2012-01-04 09:11:42 PM  

Thunderpipes: Because if those kids wrote a song about Jesus, you liberals would have their heads on a pike. You agree with the teachers in this case, so you think it is okay. It does not get any more double standardy than that. Those kids did not do that on their own, to pretend is to live a lie.


Kids that age sing Christmas carols in school productions, learn about pilgrims and sing songs about them, and decorate for Valentine's Day. That seems to be the Christian equivalent of roughly the level of "OWS indoctrination" we're dealing with here given the lyrics quoted earlier in the thread. Other than the inclusion of "1%" and "99%" the song is a completely generic telling of the radical idea that money doesn't buy happiness with an, if not age-written, then age-appropriate answer to the very current event question of what is meant when people keep spouting off those numbers and saturating the media with them.

No, I wouldn't particularly like the teacher leading a class in prayer to Jesus as religion, specifically, is a special category. I also wouldn't defend a teacher leading a class in bowing to Mecca, performing Shabbas rites, hailing Satan, touching the noodly appendage of the FSM, performing a ghost dance, or any other religous ritual. Nor would I be fond of a teacher going off about all religions being wrong to a third grade class.
 
2012-01-04 09:47:14 PM  

weezbo: I also wouldn't defend a teacher leading a class in bowing to Mecca


I remember my fourth grade teacher let the new girl who was Arabic read the Koran and share hummus with the class. That teacher was very much into having us learn about other cultures though. I thought it was neat,same with doing all the stuff we did about Mexico and hearing her tell us about the time she ate what she thought was a peeled grape but turned out to be a sheep's eye. The forced bible lessons on the other hand did nothing but bore the shiat out of me and makes me wonder how many times can you listen to kids sing How Great Thou Art without wanting to poke yourself in the ear drums with a icepick.
 
2012-01-04 10:04:42 PM  

A Terrible Human: I remember my fourth grade teacher let the new girl who was Arabic read the Koran and share hummus with the class.


Yeah and even that's different. I also wouldn't care about some Christian kid bringing in some hot cross buns and talking about what they did in church after Spring Break.
 
2012-01-04 10:22:36 PM  

weezbo: Yeah and even that's different. I also wouldn't care about some Christian kid bringing in some hot cross buns and talking about what they did in church after Spring Break.


Neither would I or any other kid sharing an interesting bit about their culture/religion. The thing that crosses the line is when the school administration forces one particular religion on students.
 
2012-01-04 11:08:39 PM  
The only reason I believe anyone is making a fuss about this...is because these kids are ahead of the game and likely will file for food stamps upon graduation, if they graduate? Kids aren't stupid. How many times can parents get fired and be unemployed for months before they notice? They are smart enough enough to know that if their parents earned only minimum wage, there is a 99% chance they will be stuck in the land of no opportunity as well. Meh, I would have thrown a hat down for them and added a dollar.
 
2012-01-05 06:26:30 AM  

jso2897: muck4doo: jso2897: thamike: muck4doo: Yeah, I'm convinced an 8 year old came up with that.

I'm just going by what the article said. And yeah, that sh*t looks like a third grader (or group of third graders) wrote it.

/what's the word for a group of third graders? a pod? a murder?

Yeah, I don't but that either. It was 1958 when I turned 8 years old, and the civil rights movement was just beginning. The papers were full of awful pictures and stories about how black folks were getting treated - and it had a powerful effect on me. I became obsessed with the subject, and remained so until my teens, joining SNCC and demonstrating and so on - thought I was going to save the world.
And while my parents passively observed this with some bemusement, they certainly weren't "coaching" me, and neither was anyone else. The concept that a child cannot understand good and evil, and desire to change the world for the better. is profoundly fallacious.

Awesome! You write any songs about it when you were a whee child that you can share with us today?

He. No - but then, I couldn't write a decent song today. And I've tried - the results were execrable. I'm a good singer, and a decent guitar player - but I stick with covers - songwriting is not one of my talents.
To me, the attitude that kids are incapable of thinking and caring about "adult" issues is patronizing and false. You may disagree - but, hey - that's what makes horseracing.


What do you expect from an adult who is incapable of thinking and caring about "adult" issues?
 
2012-01-05 09:07:27 AM  
No reason to work hard when everyone gets a trophy for just showing up
 
2012-01-05 11:55:29 AM  
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farking let kids just enjoy their childhoods. They have the rest of their adult lives to think about the bullshiat that divides people. Seriously, stop it.

Weaver95: seriously. this is about as non-issue as a non-issue can get.

Of course it is to you. You support this kind of stupidity.

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And you're from Austin? Supposedly the last bastion of sanity in this hillbilly state? Man I bet you feel out of place down there. You must be one of these hard core republicans who are always voting against their own best interests.
 
2012-01-05 07:01:57 PM  

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farking let kids just enjoy their childhoods. They have the rest of their adult lives to think about the bullshiat that divides people. Seriously, stop it.

Weaver95: seriously. this is about as non-issue as a non-issue can get.

Of course it is to you. You support this kind of stupidity.

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And you're from Austin? Supposedly the last bastion of sanity in this hillbilly state? Man I bet you feel out of place down there. You must be one of these hard core republicans who are always voting against their own best interests.


I'm a transplant from San Jose and San Francisco too
 
2012-01-06 01:04:46 AM  

Teen Wolf Blitzer: Wow. They certainly are the 99%... they're all public employees. No wonder they hate capitalism.

# Employer # of Employees
1 University of Virginia Health System 1,000+
2 Martha Jefferson Hospital 1,000+
3 City of Charlottesville 1,000+
4 Charlottesville City Public Schools 500-999


Technically, that's for the City. For the county:
1 University of Virginia: 5,000 - 9,999
2 Defense Intelligence Community, Rivanna Station: 2,500 - 4,999
3 University of Virginia Health System: 1,000 - 1,499
4 State Farm Mutual:1,000 - 1,499

Martha J and the City are probably next; there's also GE and Northrop Grumman, which I think are ahead of the area school districts for employment.

That said, despite the tinge from the intelligence community: yes, it's a pretty major blue spot in the surrounding sea of red.

EditorialSpace: The only reason I believe anyone is making a fuss about this...is because these kids are ahead of the game and likely will file for food stamps upon graduation, if they graduate? Kids aren't stupid. How many times can parents get fired and be unemployed for months before they notice?


This is Albemarle County. Unemployment peaked two years back at six percent; it's now back down around four-and-a-half. At the height of the dot-com it got down to 0.8%. You really do not want to think about what kind of people get hired for restaurant work when unemployment rates are that low.

There are a few folks on food stamps, some people looking for work, and a lot looking for more and better work. But most of it is that the population is predominantly highly educated professionals: doctors, lawyers, and professors.
 
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